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On 6/8/2023 at 8:39 AM, bigwave said:

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A distorted translation of the hebrew.

 

Here is the New English Translation:

 

 

Genesis 1:6-8
 
New English Translation
 
 

God said, “Let there be an expanse[a] in the midst of the waters and let it separate water[b] from water.” So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it.[c] It was so.[d] God called the expanse “sky.”[e]There was evening, and there was morning, a second day.

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Footnotes

  1. Genesis 1:6 tn The Hebrew word refers to an expanse of air pressure between the surface of the sea and the clouds, separating water below from water above. In v. 8 it is called “sky.”sn An expanse. In the poetic texts the writers envision, among other things, something rather strong and shiny, no doubt influencing the traditional translation “firmament” (cf. NRSV “dome”). Job 37:18 refers to the skies poured out like a molten mirror. Dan 12:3 and Ezek 1:22 portray it as shiny. The sky or atmosphere may have seemed like a glass dome. For a detailed study of the Hebrew conception of the heavens and sky, see L. I. J. Stadelmann, The Hebrew Conception of the World (AnBib), 37-60.
  2. Genesis 1:6 tn Heb “the waters from the waters.”
  3. Genesis 1:7 tn Heb “the expanse.”
  4. Genesis 1:7 tn This statement indicates that it happened the way God designed it, underscoring the connection between word and event.
  5. Genesis 1:8 tn Though the Hebrew word can mean “heaven,” it refers in this context to “the sky.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A6-8&version=NET

 

Against the background of declining confidence in the elites—be they political, religious or scientific—the flat earth theory has lately been revived and promoted by a wave of fake news and misinformation that circulates on social media. Unfortunately, it has been noted that many Christians have become swept up in this trend, using shaky theology to argue their points. For Christians who claim that the Earth is flat, a single Bible verse is considered superior to any number of scientific arguments.

The firmament

In the cosmology of the flat Earth, the disk-shaped planet is covered by a dome whose edges stop just beyond the 45-meter-high ice wall of Antarctica, which surrounds the Earth. The stars are fixed on this dome, while the sun and moon, which are only about 50 kilometres in diameter, revolve about 5,000 kilometres above the Earth.

The idea of this dome is born at the intersection of three arguments, Professor Younker explains: 1. raqia, the Hebrew word used for “sky” in Genesis 1 would somehow imply the need for a solid, metal-like material; 2. subsequent translations of the biblical term in the Greek (stereoma) and Latin (firmamentum) versions keep the idea of a solid material; 3. ancient Jews would have supported this cosmology like their Mesopotamian neighbours.

Let’s look at the three arguments starting from the second one. Most likely, raqia was translated into Greek and from there into Latin so as to preserve the meaning of a solid object because this meaning suited the cosmology of the Greeks, the scientists of the time. We must not ignore who made these translations. The first versions of the Septuagint (the Old Testament in Greek) were ordered by Ptolemaeus II Philadelphus, the son of the founder of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt, for the famous library in Alexandria.

Starting in the 6th century BC the Greeks based their distances on the models of the disk-shaped planet and were evolving to the sphere model (not half spheres or domes). Therefore, the idea that the Earth was contained in one or more solid spheres was common in the academic environment in Alexandria when the Septuagint was translated “and is undoubtedly the main factor (rather than etymology) in translators choosing the word stereoma to translate raqia,” professor Younker says.

Regarding the first argument, it must be mentioned that in Hebrew, the verb raqa, which is a derivative of the noun raqia, points to the actions of making something thin by stretching it and has no intrinsic meaning which would make someone think about a form or a material (for instance, metal). Raqa is used as a verb for objects like tent cloths and other fabrics for which the idea of stretching actually makes sense. Dr. Faulkner explains that this is why modern theologians have concluded that raqia must be translated “sky”a vast expanse of space that includes not only the Sun and the Moon, but also the Earth’s atmosphere in which birds flysince Genesis 1:14 and 1:20 both use the same word, raqia, to refer to the two different situations.

The third argument, according to which ancient Jews would have had the same cosmology as their Mesopotamian neighbours, namely, that the Earth is flat and covered by a solid dome, is twice wrong. First of all this argument is wrong because Mesopotamians, although they supported the flat Earth theory, never talked about a dome. This incorrect idea was introduced in 1850 by Hormuzd Rasam and used by other historians who, at that time, were trying to sketch the landscape of ancient cosmologies. According to them, during their Babylonian exile Jews would have assimilated these ideas into their cosmology. However, in 1975when specialist in Assyriology, W.G. Lambert tried to establish the origin of the idea that the Babylonians believed that the Earth was covered by a domeLambert did not find any historical proof until the works of Assyriology specialists in the second half of the 19th century, the first ones to translate the Babylonian word for sky as “celestial vault”. On the contrary, the Babylonians saw the cosmos as a series of objects, flat layers piled up one on top of the other and held together by ropes, with no mention of a tri-dimensional dome. “The reality is that there is no term to describe a celestial vault in ancient Mesopotamia,” Younker says.

The second error is to assume, without valid historical arguments, that we know what kind of cosmology ancient Jews used. The oldest Jewish writings on this topic date from the medieval period and reflect the cosmology of that time, namely geocentrism, Faulkner says. Therefore, at the time the Greek translation of the Old Testament (Septuagint) was written we can, at most, only assume what the Hellenized Jews in the diaspora believed. Since many of them lived in Alexandria, Egypt, one of the educational and cultural centres of the Greek world, they most likely assimilated the translation raqia with stereoma—not, however, the meaning only introduced in the 1850s, of stereoma as a dome, but the meaning understood by the Greeks of that time: a spherical Earth contained in solid spheres.

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https://signsofthetimes.org.au/2021/05/flat-earth-theory-and-the-bible/

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EXCLUSIVE: Is THIS the solution to global warming? Scientist claims we should MOVE the Earth away from the sun - here's how his wacky idea could really work

I have to add the following: LOLOLOL

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On 6/12/2023 at 7:26 PM, bigwave said:

EXCLUSIVE: Is THIS the solution to global warming? Scientist claims we should MOVE the Earth away from the sun

I'm ROTFLMAO. This is without a doubt the absolute stupidest thing I ever read. For decades now the "expert scientists" have told us that if the earth was to move just one inch closer or farther away the earth would be uninhabitable. 

 

I don't know what's worse, the demonic morons who are suggesting this or the Sheeple who believe it. 

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On 6/13/2023 at 2:26 AM, bigwave said:

EXCLUSIVE: Is THIS the solution to global warming? Scientist claims we should MOVE the Earth away from the sun - here's how his wacky idea could really work

I have to add the following: LOLOLOL

 

 

 

Wow......That one got me......

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