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Trump campaign would have to pay nearly $8 million for Wisconsin recount

 
Patrick Marley, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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USA TODAYNovember 17, 2020
 
 
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MADISON, Wis. – President Donald Trump's campaign would have to pay nearly $8 million to start a recount in Wisconsin, a state he narrowly lost two weeks ago.

Trump will have to decide by Wednesday whether to carry through with the recount he has promised to pursue.

If his campaign pays the $7.9 million cost up front, the recount will begin as soon as Thursday and be complete by Dec. 1, according to the state Elections Commission. 

Trump has been furiously fundraising for the Wisconsin recount and legal challenges in other states to try to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's victory. If he doesn't go ahead with the Wisconsin recount, he can use the money he's raised for other purposes, such as retiring his campaign debt.

The price tag for the Wisconsin recount is nearly four times as much as a recount in 2016. That year, the campaign of Green Party candidate Jill Stein had to pay just over $2 million for the recount it had requested.

 

A recount would be so much more costly this year in part because of the coronavirus pandemic, said Meagan Wolfe, the director of the state Elections Commission. Some counties would need to rent large halls to conduct the recount so they could keep workers and observers distanced from one another. 

Also driving up the cost are a short time frame and increased security needs, Wolfe said.

“We still have not received any indication that there will or will not be a recount,” Wolfe said in a statement. “But we want Wisconsin’s voters to know we are ready.”

To save money, Trump could narrow his request and seek a recount in just a handful of counties instead of all 72 of them. Trump campaign spokeswoman Anna Kelly did not immediately react to the state's cost estimates. 

Counties are completing their canvasses of the vote now and the last counties are expected to finish them Tuesday. So far, those canvasses have differed little from the initial, unofficial results that showed Biden winning the state by about 20,000 votes.

If Trump requests the recount, the commission's chairwoman, Ann Jacobs, on Thursday will issue a formal order for counties to start their recounts. They will have to begin by Saturday at the latest.

They will have to complete their work by Dec. 1. That's the same day the commission is required to certify the state's presidential results. 

Stein was able to force a recount in 2016 even though she had claimed just a tiny sliver of the vote that year. The recount resulted in a net change of 131 votes, upholding Trump's win that year over Democrat Hillarious Clinton by a margin of about 22,000 votes. 

In response to the recount, Republican lawmakers overhauled the state's recount law so that only a candidate who narrowly lost could seek a recount. 

Under that revised law, recounts can be held only if the winning margin was 1 percentage point or less. The state covers the cost if the margin is less than 0.25 points. The losing candidate must pay for it if it is more than that. 

Trump lost by about 0.6 percentage points, according to unofficial returns.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-pay-nearly-8-115400994.html

 

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22 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:
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Trump campaign would have to pay nearly $8 million for Wisconsin recount

 
Patrick Marley, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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USA TODAYNovember 17, 2020
 
 
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MADISON, Wis. – President Donald Trump's campaign would have to pay nearly $8 million to start a recount in Wisconsin, a state he narrowly lost two weeks ago.

Trump will have to decide by Wednesday whether to carry through with the recount he has promised to pursue.

If his campaign pays the $7.9 million cost up front, the recount will begin as soon as Thursday and be complete by Dec. 1, according to the state Elections Commission. 

Trump has been furiously fundraising for the Wisconsin recount and legal challenges in other states to try to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's victory. If he doesn't go ahead with the Wisconsin recount, he can use the money he's raised for other purposes, such as retiring his campaign debt.

The price tag for the Wisconsin recount is nearly four times as much as a recount in 2016. That year, the campaign of Green Party candidate Jill Stein had to pay just over $2 million for the recount it had requested.

 

A recount would be so much more costly this year in part because of the coronavirus pandemic, said Meagan Wolfe, the director of the state Elections Commission. Some counties would need to rent large halls to conduct the recount so they could keep workers and observers distanced from one another. 

Also driving up the cost are a short time frame and increased security needs, Wolfe said.

“We still have not received any indication that there will or will not be a recount,” Wolfe said in a statement. “But we want Wisconsin’s voters to know we are ready.”

To save money, Trump could narrow his request and seek a recount in just a handful of counties instead of all 72 of them. Trump campaign spokeswoman Anna Kelly did not immediately react to the state's cost estimates. 

Counties are completing their canvasses of the vote now and the last counties are expected to finish them Tuesday. So far, those canvasses have differed little from the initial, unofficial results that showed Biden winning the state by about 20,000 votes.

If Trump requests the recount, the commission's chairwoman, Ann Jacobs, on Thursday will issue a formal order for counties to start their recounts. They will have to begin by Saturday at the latest.

They will have to complete their work by Dec. 1. That's the same day the commission is required to certify the state's presidential results. 

Stein was able to force a recount in 2016 even though she had claimed just a tiny sliver of the vote that year. The recount resulted in a net change of 131 votes, upholding Trump's win that year over Democrat Hillarious Clinton by a margin of about 22,000 votes. 

In response to the recount, Republican lawmakers overhauled the state's recount law so that only a candidate who narrowly lost could seek a recount. 

Under that revised law, recounts can be held only if the winning margin was 1 percentage point or less. The state covers the cost if the margin is less than 0.25 points. The losing candidate must pay for it if it is more than that. 

Trump lost by about 0.6 percentage points, according to unofficial returns.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-pay-nearly-8-115400994.html

 

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There won't need to be a recount...  CL

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Column: Just when you thought the president could sink no lower....

 
 
Jonah Goldberg
Tue, November 17, 2020, 6:00 AM EST
 
 
U.S. President Donald Trump leaves the stage after addressing a plenary session on the last day of the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum, WEF, in Davos, Switzerland, Friday, Jan. 26, 2018. (Laurent Gillieron/Keystone via AP)
President Trump leaves the stage after speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, in 2018. (Laurent Gillieron / Associated Press)

“Despite the Left’s attempts to undermine this Election, I will NEVER stop fighting for YOU,” President Trump assured me in a fundraising email.

I don’t take campaign fundraising emails seriously (never mind literally). They’re all pretty stupid.

But this one was obviously different, for the simple reason that the election is over. Indeed, this note — one of a great many sent by the Trump campaign recently — was a plea for money to pay for the legal effort to reverse an election Trump lost by the same margin of electoral votes he once claimed amounted to a “massive landslide.” And if you read the letter’s fine print, you’ll discover that “fighting for you” actually means “fighting for me.” Most of the money from small donors will go not to the legal effort, but rather to pay down campaign debt.

In a sense I’m grateful that Trump is doubling down on everything wrong about his presidency in its final chapter. Yes, this is embarrassing for the country. Yes, Trump’s radioactive conspiracy theory of a stolen election will have a long, poisonous half-life. But Trump is removing all doubt that his narcissistic presidency was always entirely about him.

 

The country is in the midst of a health and economic crisis, but Trump’s primary focus is licking his own wounds, not tackling the country’s. He has largely abandoned formal intelligence briefings and hasn’t met with the coronavirus task force in months. Instead, with the exception of a Veterans Day visit to Arlington National Cemetery and a Friday night statement on the pandemic, he’s conducted his post-election presidency doing precisely what he’s always done — subordinating the office to his own wants, desires and petty grievances.

He punctuates his brooding and sulking with pathetic tweets brimming with conspiratorial or otherwise deranged hogwash, including the repeated claim “I won the election.” He continues to insist, as he has throughout his presidency, that proof for his lies is just around the corner. On Sunday, he promised a new lawsuit showing the “unconstitutionality” of the 2020 election.

“Nixon’s real tragedy is that he never had the stature to be a tragic hero,” Gary Wills wrote in "Nixon Agonistes." “He is the stuff of sad (almost heartbreaking) comedy.” I think that’s a little unfair to Nixon, but it’s dead on with Trump.

It would take a heart of stone not to laugh, as he finally turns on the real Judas in his eyes, Fox News (where I am a contributor). The network, he tweets, “forgot what made them successful, what got them there. They forgot the Golden Goose. The biggest difference between the 2016 Election, and 2020, was @FoxNews!”

Never mind that Fox was No. 1 in every time slot more than a decade before Trump descended that escalator in 2015. Never mind, that for four years, he began his day with his Presidential Daily Brief — "Fox and Friends" — and ended it with the primetime gang. And never mind that Trump and the opinion side of the network remain in a deeply codependent relationship.

He still didn’t get the full-throated, unwavering praise he needed, so now he finds joy in thinking about creating a new competing network, one without all the obvious anti-Trump bias!

Most presidents, if they’re remembered at all, get summarized with a single sentence. Whatever Trump’s sentence might have been before the election, he managed to rewrite it after the election: “A one-term president who was the first in American history to refuse to concede or recognize the election results.” Talk about scoring after the buzzer.

George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose a reelection bid, left office (after graciously conceding) in fairly bad odor on the right. After eight years of Bill Clinton, however, nostalgia for Bush was so strong, his son parlayed his patronymic name ID into a winning presidential bid.

If Trump had followed a similar course, he (or perhaps his sybaritic scion) might have cashed in on similar nostalgia after four years of a Biden presidency almost certain to be seen as disastrous by those on the right. Instead, he has chosen to prove that those of us who said “character is destiny” were right all along.

Let Trump continue insisting he didn’t really lose — it’s impossible to stop him after all. Let those who believe him — or pretend to — continue to march and tweet and rant, including the many highly compensated media personalities who’ve gotten rich off the Trump train.

But for the rest of us, the one thing we won’t ever feel about the Trump presidency is nostalgia — not least because he won’t really be gone. Even after he leaves the White House, he’ll be fighting for himself — and making sure we hear him — for the rest of his days.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/applying-to-college-dont-let-scammers-steal-your-money-144626871.html

 

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14 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

Election isn't over. L.A. Times doesn't determine the winner. 

You approve of voter fraud. I get it. As long as it helps Trump lose you are all for it.

 

What fraud is that?....the courts haven't ruled on any fraud related to Trump's impending loss of this election.  The only fraud being talked about is in the far reaches of the internet, over at Newsmax, by conspiracist Alex Jones, at every "birthers" dinner table, at flat earth ice wall jamborees, by the OAN water cooler, on Rush radio, and by that always angry Levin dude....Oh, and by Trump himself, though he can be lumped into the "birther" group.  There's been some minor discrepancies here and there, but not nearly enough to change this presidential election....not even close.  So no, I don't approve of fraud of any sort, never have, never will.  5.5 million more votes, says it all...the majority has spoken, thus the thousands of more votes electorally throughout the battle ground states for presumptive President Elect Joe Biden.

 

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Keep those blinders on and prevent yourself from seeing the facts. 

Throw out proof just because you don't approve or watch someone you don't like. 

Just because a court says it doesn't mean anything. I have seen plenty of politically biased decisions in my time to know what they look like.

 

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Money from his supporters right in Trump's pocket then....just how he planned it in the fine print.

 

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Nope.....more money for the Georgia fiasco.....and hey...they'll use those same Dominion machines......maybe?

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Also, keep in mind....Trump doesn't get to call the election for himself either.  

 

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That's why we're all gonna be patient....I'll be Bush.....you be Gore....we have a couple of weeks yet where we can just get along and sing kumbaya together...   CL

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That's why we're all gonna be patient....I'll be Bush.....you be Gore....we have a couple of weeks yet where we can just get along and sing kumbaya together...   CL

 

....and watch the polar ice caps melt at alarming rates, don't forget.  :o

 

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The example we got with Bush/Gore at least was when they re-counted the votes they had 1 Democrat and 1 Republican sitting next to each other examining the given ballot. With a independent 3rd party there to resolve any dispute . None of this shiznet of Dems examining the ballot while the Republican stands 6-12 feet away, behind a cardboard barrier . No way to substantively examine the ballot that way. Cheaters sure can figure , and come up with unfair rules. I will be donating to the RNC today to fund the Republican WI re-count . And for a petition for Pelosi and all politicians to divest from the Dominion Vote Counting System , as a layer against a programmer rigging that system from leaning more towards 1 party . 

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Trump campaign will pay $3 million for a seemingly hopeless recount in 2 Wisconsin counties

 
 
Kathryn Krawczyk
Wed, November 18, 2020, 12:32 PM EST
 
 
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President Trump's campaign is spending $3 million on a recount that won't change his fate.

Trump's campaign shifted from requesting a full recount in Wisconsin to paying for a recount in just Milwaukee and Dane counties on Wednesday. The Trump campaign said it chose those counties as they were home to the "worst irregularities" in the vote count, though there's no evidence that's true.

Even before President-elect Joe Biden was declared the winner of the 2020 election, Trump and his campaign began launching legal challenges and demanding recounts across states Biden won. That included in Wisconsin, a state Trump won in 2016 but Biden flipped by more than 20,000 votes this time around. A good portion of Biden's majority came from the Democratic strongholds of Milwaukee and Dane counties, home to Milwaukee and Madison, respectively.

 

The Trump campaign claims those counties were home to "illegally altered absentee ballots, illegally issued absentee ballots, and illegal advice given by government officials allowing Wisconsin’s Voter ID laws to be circumvented." State and local elections officials say there's no sign of the widespread fraud Trump's team is alleging.Trump's campaign is more likely zeroing on these counties because they contain a big chunk of the state's votes, went significantly for Biden this year, and are home to most of the state's Black voters.

Trump needs to flip more than 20,000 votes to put Wisconsin in his favor — a number a recount has never seen before. But even without Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes, Biden still has more than the 270 votes he needs to win the election.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-campaign-pay-3-million-173216109.html

 

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