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On 2/4/2020 at 10:06 AM, DinarDavo said:

 

I think Ephesians 6:12 would tend to indicate that there is a certain level of organization to the kingdom of darkness...

 

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places."  

 

 

 

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Politics Lindsey Graham Wants To Call Whistleblower After Trial To Ask 'How All This Crap Started' Mary Papenfuss February 3, 2020, 5:29 AM EST  

Nice misinterpretation ....   Seems the impeachment phone call was July 2018..... I think LG wants to get back to the origins....even pre 2016 election.........and work his way up to, a

Commie buddy?!!.....I'm not a Trump supporter.     GO RV, then BV

20 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

To Shabs, since the quote button is missing from you post:

 

How would a person call for a witness when that persons name can't even be mentioned in a question?

Is LG supposed to say "We now call the whistle blower to the stand"

House manager says "Which one?"

LG says "I can't say his name but you know who he is"

House manager says "I can't remember his name"

Out of the setting of the impeachment he can put the name of the wb on a subpoena and haul him in.

Then he can haul Schiff in for lying to Congress. 

 

I personally have no idea exactly how whistle blower protection laws work....though I suppose they carry forward in perpetuity.  Those who are angry with the whistle blower will remain angry with the whistle blower once the senate impeachment farce is over, so his/her safety will remain an issue.

 

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43 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

It is said "Trump was asked to be President by the NSA". That's the Military's version of the spying apparatus.  Watch the video below and ask yourself one question. 

"If the Military secretly used a President to remove all the corrupt and criminal leaders of the world, how much POWER would that one man have when it was done?" 

Another way to say it, 

"BE CAREFUL OF THE DEVIL YOU CREATE"

 

 

 

 

I refuse to support Q's efforts to enrich him or herself through social media conspiracies.....So I'm gong to pass on this one.  There are people much more mentally suited than me to carry Q's torch.  :peace:

 

GO RV, then BV 

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I refuse to support system" rel="">support Q's efforts to enrich him or herself through social media conspiracies.....So I'm gong to pass on this one.  There are people much more mentally suited than me to carry Q's torch.  :peace:

 

GO RV, then BV 

Yeah I don't follow him myself, far too complicated for my taste,  but sometimes a dear friend of mine sends me a video. I watch them and most of the time they don't make sense, sometimes they do. But the one above does explain allot if true.  As for Q making any money I have never been asked for any and I've never heard of anyone else paying either. 

 

On a side note,  you seem to be very closed minded about anything that doesn't fit into your frame of mind.  I'm not suggesting you accept such things. I'm only suggesting that you cannot make a well rounded opinion without thinking outside of the box a little.  Believe me life isn't as it seems. 

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11 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Believe me life isn't as it seems. 

 

Yet more times than not....life is exactly as it seems.  As an example, when somebody such as Trump shows himself to be exactly who he's always been publicly for the last 40 years, don't question him, as the long list of character witnesses can't all be wrong.  As always, just my opinion.

 

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20 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Yeah I don't follow him myself, far too complicated for my taste,  but sometimes a dear friend of mine sends me a video. I watch them and most of the time they don't make sense, sometimes they do. But the one above does explain allot if true.  As for Q making any money I have never been asked for any and I've never heard of anyone else paying either. 

 

And that video was viewed 1.2 million times....you don't think there's monetary kickbacks from that?  Advertising revenue?  Some people make their living from youtube videos.

 

GO RV, then BV

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1 minute ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Yet more times than not....life is exactly as it seems.  As an example, when somebody such as Trump shows himself to be exactly who he's always been publicly for the last 40 years, don't question him, as the long list of character witnesses can't all be wrong.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

I'm not concerned with "who he's always been". I'm only pointing out that he's done allot of good ESPECIALLY in the economy with respect to unemployment. And the fact that hundreds of millions of people all over the world are falling in love with him. 

And I'm suggesting that something FAR bigger than any of us is happening. 

 

In a nutshell, this isn't about Trump or any other idiot corrupt, criminal Politicians in the world. This is about a Battle of Biblical proportions. Look around you man, do you REALLY believe that life is just going to go on as is? That's insane! In the nuclear world there's only one of two endings here.

The Return of Jesus Christ. 

Or, the nuclear ANNIHILATION of all humanity. And you're freaking worried about Trump's moral compass. 

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9 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

And that video was viewed 1.2 million times....you don't think there's monetary kickbacks from that?  Advertising revenue?  Some people make their living from youtube videos.

 

GO RV, then BV

LOL

I wish I knew how to do that. I'd make millions pi$$ing off people like B/A daily. :lol:

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2 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

And you're freaking worried about Trump's moral compass. 

 

As my representative to the world.....you bet I am.  One day, God willing, I'll have to explain Trump to a grandchild and what it means to love thy neighbor unconditionally. 

 

GO RV, then BV

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7 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

As my representative to the world.....you bet I am.  One day, God willing, I'll have to explain Trump to a grandchild and what it means to love thy neighbor unconditionally. 

 

GO RV, then BV

You're gonna have to figure out how to explain that Trump was "your representative to the world", but NOT your neighbor, first. 

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On 2/3/2020 at 6:17 AM, Shabibilicious said:

Ahh....so after the trial is over, Leningrad Lindsey finally wants to call witnesses.

I would bet that he is all show and no go.

 

He is set to "retire" soon and after all his best friend in the senate was "No Name".....

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13 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

That is the difference.....turning a blind eye just doesn't appeal to me.  

 

GO RV, then BV

No it seems that condemning someone in judgement is. And ya know if ya condemned members of your own party as 

much you probably wouldn't get as much flack around here. But your singularity in condemning Trump shows that 

you don't have nearly as big an issue with his lack of morality as you do with who he may really be. 

There is and always has been only two ways that demons control humans, demonic possession and demonic attachments. 

Both blind the controlled person of their presence. 

All I'm saying Shabbs is your level of distasteful and vitriolic attacks  of Trump (and that would go for anyone else you treat 

like him) is not natural. It is, very telling. 

Lets say I'm correct in thinking that he's the AntiChrist, and I don't know that I am, does that change how I talk about him?

If I knew for a fact that he's the AntiChrist that wouldn't cause me to treat him any different. Why is that you ask? Simple,

I'm not him and I don't have to answer for his sins. I would see my responsibilities to warn my family and friends of the times

and check the condition of their souls. 

Your complaining about Trump the way that you do isn't going to change one thing. It's not going to cause one person to 

vote for anyone else. Yet you're compelled everyday to come here and spew such unimaginable hatred. For what? What 

do you actually think you're going to accomplish? 

This is why Trump actually being the AntiChrist wouldn't change how I talk about him any different. Doing so is simply

a wast of time and energy. I have my feelings and I share them with my Family and few friends, as I have with you. 

But going beyond that doesn't make me a better Christian and it certainly doesn't do Christ any favors in the eyes of the lost. 

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On 2/4/2020 at 2:30 PM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

LOL

I wish I knew how to do that. I'd make millions pi$$ing off people like B/A daily. :lol:

 

The only ones pissed off are Trumpkins... They've been pissed off since 2016. The sorriest winners in history. It is weird that instead of promoting what's good for America, they spew hate and post idiotic tweets... Weird stuff.

 

B/A

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

 

The only ones pissed off are Trumpkins... They've been pissed off since 2016. The sorriest winners in history. It is weird that instead of promoting what's good for America, they spew hate and post idiotic tweets... Weird stuff.

 

B/A

Please seek Psychiatric help, seriously. 

 

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6 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

The only ones pissed off are Trumpkins... They've been pissed off since 2016. The sorriest winners in history. It is weird that instead of promoting what's good for America, they spew hate and post idiotic tweets... Weird stuff.

 

B/A

 

Resemblances with the Italian far right about what's good for Italy...Lots of hate harvested and trying to divide as much as possible....

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Well read this entire post and nothing seems to have changed since I left. Everyone is still doing exactly what this GOVT wants them to do. That is to stay divided and  not come together as a people.  Which if you really think about it it is the only way you can control this many people without it falling apart in to utter chaos. This country is split in half and its really getting hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys. It was a hell of a lot simpler when good guys wore the white hats and the bad guys wore black. but now all I see is a wave of hoodies ,man buns and make america great again heads rushing around like little ants demanding that everyone else see things their way. I finally reached a point in my life a few years back that brought me peace of mind in regards to this red and blue dilemma that  seems to have affected this entire country. It was the realization that no matter which side your on your a loser because the very act of picking a side makes the real enemy stronger. The real enemy is division and you can stand on the mount till doomsday and declare your side right and point the finger and say its your fault but unless we can somehow find away to come together as human beings stranded on a dying planet we shall all go down in the same flames and humanity will finally end in one sad voice. Our legacy will be " We couldn't get our **** together" With GOVTS we will always be divided . Without GOVT we would kill one another. So what are we to do.  I think jesus pretty much nailed it. " Love one another" If that was truly possible you would not need GOVT. You would not need police you would not need money. But that sure as hell dont look like its going to be happening anytime soon.  So hunker down fellas live each day like its the last , love hard  and fight even harder then you love. Keep those you love close and distance yourselves from them you dont.. As far as trump goes he`s no worse then alot I have met in my lifetime He works hard and things has improved. Is he a ******* ? Yep pretty much. But again I have seen worse. I do like the idea that people are starting to use the right bathrooms though. 

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On 2/5/2020 at 5:22 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

No it seems that condemning someone in judgement is. And ya know if ya condemned members of your own party as 

much you probably wouldn't get as much flack around here. But your singularity in condemning Trump shows that 

you don't have nearly as big an issue with his lack of morality as you do with who he may really be. 

There is and always has been only two ways that demons control humans, demonic possession and demonic attachments. 

Both blind the controlled person of their presence. 

All I'm saying Shabbs is your level of distasteful and vitriolic attacks  of Trump (and that would go for anyone else you treat 

like him) is not natural. It is, very telling. 

Lets say I'm correct in thinking that he's the AntiChrist, and I don't know that I am, does that change how I talk about him?

If I knew for a fact that he's the AntiChrist that wouldn't cause me to treat him any different. Why is that you ask? Simple,

I'm not him and I don't have to answer for his sins. I would see my responsibilities to warn my family and friends of the times

and check the condition of their souls. 

Your complaining about Trump the way that you do isn't going to change one thing. It's not going to cause one person to 

vote for anyone else. Yet you're compelled everyday to come here and spew such unimaginable hatred. For what? What 

do you actually think you're going to accomplish? 

This is why Trump actually being the AntiChrist wouldn't change how I talk about him any different. Doing so is simply

a wast of time and energy. I have my feelings and I share them with my Family and few friends, as I have with you. 

But going beyond that doesn't make me a better Christian and it certainly doesn't do Christ any favors in the eyes of the lost. 

 

Associated Press

Trump's prayer breakfast jibes jolt many faith leaders

DAVID CRARY
Associated PressFebruary 6, 2020, 3:48 PM EST
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Faith leaders divided over Trump's prayer breakfast
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NEW YORK (AP) — The National Prayer Breakfast - a Washington tradition since 1953 - is by custom a respite from partisan bickering. President Donald Trump shattered that tradition Thursday with aggressive remarks that buoyed his allies but dismayed a wide spectrum of faith leaders.

“A bipartisan prayer breakfast is the last place one would expect to find political attacks on opponents,” said the Rev. Tom Lambrecht, general manager of the conservative United Methodist magazine Good News. “Our country would benefit from a return to the kind of civility and grace reflected in Jesus’ words.”

Trump set the tone for his remarks even before speaking - holding up two newspapers with the headline “ACQUITTED” to herald the Senate’s vote Wednesday against removing him from office.

In a keynote address before Trump’s speech, Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, had decried a “crisis of contempt and polarization” and urged his listeners to ”love your enemies."

“I don't know if I agree with you,” said Trump. He then took a swipe at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who had cited his faith in becoming the only Republican to vote for Trump's removal.

“I don't like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong," Trump said.

“Nor do I like people who say, 'I pray for you' when you know that is not so,” Trump added, in a reference to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has offered that message even as she led the impeachment effort.

Pelosi, a practicing Catholic, reiterated that she often prays for Trump.

“I pray hard for him because he’s so off the track of our constitution, our values, our country,” she said after the breakfast. “He really needs our prayers.”

One of Trump’s leading allies in the conservative Christian evangelical community, the Rev. Robert Jeffress of the Southern Baptist megachurch First Baptist Dallas, embraced the president’s remarks.

“I think the president was completely right in what he said,” Jeffress said. “It’s not politically correct, but he didn’t get to be president by being politically correct.”

Jeffress, who said he dined with Trump and Prayer Breakfast organizers at the White House on Wednesday, said the criticism of Pelosi was justified.

“When you have been under nonstop attack for the last three years from people who want to destroy you and your family, it’s a little hard to hear them say, ‘I want to pray for you,’ ” he said. “It’s hypocritical.”

As for Romney, Jeffress contended that the senator’s decision to vote for Trump’s removal “seems more based on self-promotion than religious beliefs.”

Among Romney’s fellow Mormons in Utah, views were mixed.

“I don’t like that he’s the only member of the U.S. Senate on the Republican side who says, ‘I’m a man of God’ so he has to vote a certain way,” said former GOP legislator Mike Noel.

However, Emma Petty Addams, executive director of Mormon Women for Ethical Government, said Romney “really exemplifies the way faith can be used in the public sphere in a very positive way.”

The Rev. Jim Wallis, founder of the Christian social justice group Sojourners, took note of Trump’s assertion that faith should not be used as a justification for doing what someone knows is wrong.

"Apply this logic to Trump's white evangelical supporters: they are willing to trade off and even sell out Jesus for the reward of getting judges they like in the Supreme Court,” Wallis said via email. “Jesus taught us to welcome immigrants, to reject the use of racial bigotry, to avoid lying and to respect and love all people as they are made in the image of God.”

Professor Robert Franklin, who teaches moral theology at Emory University’s Candler School of Theology in Atlanta, also evoked Jesus.

“If the president is feeling persecuted, he would be well served to spend quality time with his pastor while studying what Jesus did when he was persecuted,” Franklin suggested. “The religion of Jesus promotes the virtues of humility, self-accountability, forgiveness and reconciliation.”

A Conservative Jewish rabbi in Encino, California, Noah Farkas of the Valley Beth Shalom congregation, asserted that both Romney and Pelosi “are moved by their respective faith traditions.”

“I find it deeply problematic that the president uses the National Prayer Breakfast to lambaste the faith of his opponents,” Farkas said. ”He forgets the history of faith in this country, and disrespects others who speak from their sense of faithful conscience.”

At Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia - where Trump ally Jerry Falwell Jr. is president - English professor Karen Swallow Prior said Trump’s breakfast remarks prompted her to reflect on how religious faith can be politicized.

“The problem with such statements is not Trump himself, but rather they reveal how American Christianity has become a kind of currency whose value depends on whose possession it’s in,” she wrote via email.

Toward the end of his remarks, Trump conceded that these issues of faith are not simple.

“I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm trying to learn. It's not easy,” he said. “When they impeach you for nothing and then you're supposed to like them, it's not easy folks. I do my best."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-prayer-breakfast-jibes-jolt-204832170.html

 

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23 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Associated Press

Trump's prayer breakfast jibes jolt many faith leaders

DAVID CRARY
Associated PressFebruary 6, 2020, 3:48 PM EST
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Faith leaders divided over Trump's prayer breakfast
Yahoo News Video
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NEW YORK (AP) — The National Prayer Breakfast - a Washington tradition since 1953 - is by custom a respite from partisan bickering. President Donald Trump shattered that tradition Thursday with aggressive remarks that buoyed his allies but dismayed a wide spectrum of faith leaders.

“A bipartisan prayer breakfast is the last place one would expect to find political attacks on opponents,” said the Rev. Tom Lambrecht, general manager of the conservative United Methodist magazine Good News. “Our country would benefit from a return to the kind of civility and grace reflected in Jesus’ words.”

Trump set the tone for his remarks even before speaking - holding up two newspapers with the headline “ACQUITTED” to herald the Senate’s vote Wednesday against removing him from office.

In a keynote address before Trump’s speech, Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, had decried a “crisis of contempt and polarization” and urged his listeners to ”love your enemies."

“I don't know if I agree with you,” said Trump. He then took a swipe at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who had cited his faith in becoming the only Republican to vote for Trump's removal.

“I don't like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong," Trump said.

“Nor do I like people who say, 'I pray for you' when you know that is not so,” Trump added, in a reference to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has offered that message even as she led the impeachment effort.

Pelosi, a practicing Catholic, reiterated that she often prays for Trump.

“I pray hard for him because he’s so off the track of our constitution, our values, our country,” she said after the breakfast. “He really needs our prayers.”

One of Trump’s leading allies in the conservative Christian evangelical community, the Rev. Robert Jeffress of the Southern Baptist megachurch First Baptist Dallas, embraced the president’s remarks.

“I think the president was completely right in what he said,” Jeffress said. “It’s not politically correct, but he didn’t get to be president by being politically correct.”

Jeffress, who said he dined with Trump and Prayer Breakfast organizers at the White House on Wednesday, said the criticism of Pelosi was justified.

“When you have been under nonstop attack for the last three years from people who want to destroy you and your family, it’s a little hard to hear them say, ‘I want to pray for you,’ ” he said. “It’s hypocritical.”

As for Romney, Jeffress contended that the senator’s decision to vote for Trump’s removal “seems more based on self-promotion than religious beliefs.”

Among Romney’s fellow Mormons in Utah, views were mixed.

“I don’t like that he’s the only member of the U.S. Senate on the Republican side who says, ‘I’m a man of God’ so he has to vote a certain way,” said former GOP legislator Mike Noel.

However, Emma Petty Addams, executive director of Mormon Women for Ethical Government, said Romney “really exemplifies the way faith can be used in the public sphere in a very positive way.”

The Rev. Jim Wallis, founder of the Christian social justice group Sojourners, took note of Trump’s assertion that faith should not be used as a justification for doing what someone knows is wrong.

"Apply this logic to Trump's white evangelical supporters: they are willing to trade off and even sell out Jesus for the reward of getting judges they like in the Supreme Court,” Wallis said via email. “Jesus taught us to welcome immigrants, to reject the use of racial bigotry, to avoid lying and to respect and love all people as they are made in the image of God.”

Professor Robert Franklin, who teaches moral theology at Emory University’s Candler School of Theology in Atlanta, also evoked Jesus.

“If the president is feeling persecuted, he would be well served to spend quality time with his pastor while studying what Jesus did when he was persecuted,” Franklin suggested. “The religion of Jesus promotes the virtues of humility, self-accountability, forgiveness and reconciliation.”

A Conservative Jewish rabbi in Encino, California, Noah Farkas of the Valley Beth Shalom congregation, asserted that both Romney and Pelosi “are moved by their respective faith traditions.”

“I find it deeply problematic that the president uses the National Prayer Breakfast to lambaste the faith of his opponents,” Farkas said. ”He forgets the history of faith in this country, and disrespects others who speak from their sense of faithful conscience.”

At Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia - where Trump ally Jerry Falwell Jr. is president - English professor Karen Swallow Prior said Trump’s breakfast remarks prompted her to reflect on how religious faith can be politicized.

“The problem with such statements is not Trump himself, but rather they reveal how American Christianity has become a kind of currency whose value depends on whose possession it’s in,” she wrote via email.

Toward the end of his remarks, Trump conceded that these issues of faith are not simple.

“I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm trying to learn. It's not easy,” he said. “When they impeach you for nothing and then you're supposed to like them, it's not easy folks. I do my best."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-prayer-breakfast-jibes-jolt-204832170.html

 

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And your point is?

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