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Pelosi announces full House vote on impeachment inquiry

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not enough colored pictures & too many multiple syllable big words in transcript for left to comprehend. 

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1 hour ago, caz1104 said:

They have to "dumb" it down for 75% of their (left) voting base & MSM. Got to be able to twist truths without anyone suspecting anything... a tried & true strategy that has served the left well over the years.

 

Dude, it was Trumps people who edited the transcript because they know the full transcript would sink him. Why do you think they didn't release it In full? Now his people are testifying and the republican's  reaction is to bash career veterans… If it wasn't bad they would have released it. The dumbed down version is for his followers because they believe everything he says without proof, facts or evidence. How anyone would not demand the full transcript and thus the truth is beyond reason. He's your guy, don't you want to see the full transcript or are you afraid it might burst your orange bubble?

 

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52 minutes ago, Karsten said:

 

 

Karsten

 

Pizza Gate. Soros. Obama's Birth certificate. Clinton's Emails. The Deep State. Everyone must be lying. The world is wrong. Only believe one person over all others.

 

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1 hour ago, caz1104 said:

not enough colored pictures & too many multiple syllable big words in transcript for left to comprehend. 

 

He's not hiding it from the left he's hiding it from you... LOL

 

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31 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

He's not hiding it from the left he's hiding it from you... LOL

 

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nice middle of the road responses.....lol

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35 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Dude, it was Trumps people who edited the transcript because they know the full transcript would sink him. Why do you think they didn't release it In full? Now his people are testifying and the republican's  reaction is to bash career veterans… If it wasn't bad they would have released it. The dumbed down version is for his followers because they believe everything he says without proof, facts or evidence. How anyone would not demand the full transcript and thus the truth is beyond reason. He's your guy, don't you want to see the full transcript or are you afraid it might burst your orange bubble?

 

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"bash career veterans" that's rich isn't that exactly what the left does, they wrote the book!!......demonize all that disagree.....come on ur better than that

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34 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Pizza Gate. Soros. Obama's Birth certificate. Clinton's Emails. The Deep State. Everyone must be lying. The world is wrong. Only believe one person over all others.

 

B/A

smoke....there just might be fire

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27 minutes ago, caz1104 said:

smoke....there just might be fire

 

Caz, I think that is B/A's way to through it is my face.......he/She/It knows I believe in Pizza Gate/Pedo Files, I followed the Obamq B/C and all the layer, wrong paper, ink, fonts and verbiage used, Pretty sad when the clinton emails are somehow twisted.....If B/A thinks that deleting 30,000 Subpoena and destroying devices is cool ....well, it fits the narrative from Left. The Deep State or the fact they are so deep in the Denial is indeed rather frightening .

 

They gotta make it appear (at least to themselves ) they are winning.....At what I am not sure....I guess they all demand a Trophy just for showing up or something.

 

Sorta like all the Transgenders that are rocking the records in the Female Sports.....Them they seem to take issue with Me having issues that they don't know which Public restroom to use......

 

Pretty Crazy this world we live in today....700 plus various genders and counting.

 

Today I saw where a grown man identifies at a 6 year old and blasted a home Run in T Ball and a motorcycle ride identifies as a Bicyclist and is setting new records....What Next. 

 

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So Pelosi and Company have laid out the rules.... this makes it very transparent....that they don't want to play it straight up....read it yourselves.....the left will have to approve anyone the right wants to call in as a witness......and more...

Do these clowns really believe the citizens won't see through any of this?     CL

 

Impeachment proceedings customarily have run through the House Judiciary Committee. Pelosi aides insist that Schiff’s leadership of the impeachment inquiry stems from the fact that national security — the subject of Trump’s dealings with Ukraine — is squarely within his jurisdiction.

 

Moreover, the resolution does say that House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., will “conduct proceedings to the impeachment inquiry.”

Judiciary will also handle whatever articles of impeachment the House settles on, and will be the venue in which Trump’s lawyers will have the ability to “Present their case and respond to evidence; Submit written requests for additional testimony or other evidence; Attend hearings, including those held in executive session; Raise an objection to testimony given; and Cross-examine witnesses,” according to a fact sheet sent out by Democrats.

 

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff. (Photo: Patrick Semansky/AP)
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff. (Photo: Patrick Semansky/AP)

The resolution mandates that Schiff conduct “an open hearing or hearings,” a key provision that will seemingly address Republican complaints about the closed-door testimony that has marked the impeachment process to this point.

 

Questioning of witnesses, to be led by staff attorneys, will be confined to 45 minutes per side.

 

Republicans will have the opportunity to request witnesses of their own, although they will have to provide “detailed written justification of the relevance of the testimony of each requested witness to the investigation.” Democrats on the committee will have the power to approve or block witnesses requested by Republicans.

 

The president’s attorneys will also have the chance to participate in the impeachment proceedings, though only in the House Judiciary Committee, not in the House Intelligence Committee. As on Intelligence, Democrats on Judiciary will have to approve witnesses requested by Trump’s attorneys.

 

Democrats indicated that their willingness to approve requests by Trump’s attorneys to call witnesses will be dictated in part by whether the White House cooperates more fully than it has to date with the House impeachment inquiry, in the text of a copy of the procedural rules for the Judiciary Committee process obtained exclusively by Yahoo News. The Trump administration has thumbed its nose at Democrats and their investigation, blocking witnesses from testifying, refusing to hand over documents, and sending a letter to Pelosi dismissing the entire process.

“Should the President unlawfully refuse to make witnesses available for testimony to, or to produce documents requested by, the investigative committees ... the chair [of the Judiciary Committee] shall have the discretion to impose appropriate remedies, including by denying specific requests by the President or his counsel under these procedures to call or question witnesses,”

The document also authorizes “a concluding presentation from the President’s counsel and Committee counsel for the majority and minority.”

Subpoena power will also be available to Republicans, if Democrats agree to call their requested witnesses.

 

The resolution mandates that the House Intelligence Committee will release transcripts of witness depositions and, after the inquiry is completed, publish a report on its findings.

The White House lashed out publicly against the latest impeachment developments Tuesday afternoon in a statement from the press secretary, calling the House plans a “scam” that will allow Schiff, a frequent target of Trump’s attacks, to hold hearings without due process.“The White House is barred from participating at all, until after Chairman Schiff conducts two rounds of one-sided hearings to generate a biased report for the Judiciary Committee. Even then, the White House’s rights remain undefined, unclear, and uncertain — because those rules still haven’t been written,” the statement says. “This resolution does nothing to change the fundamental fact that House Democrats refuse to provide basic due process rights to the Administration.”

 
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Two wrongs don't make a right.  Precedence set that is wrong should not be repeated by any party or used as an excuse to continue bad practices.  JMO

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1 hour ago, cranman said:

Two wrongs don't make a right.  Precedence set that is wrong should not be repeated by any party or used as an excuse to continue bad practices.  JMO

 

Agreed.

 

GO RV, then BV

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19 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

My understanding is they released the written version in it's entirety ....are you reading otherwise?     CL

 

Yes they edited it... Even the officer who testified yesterday said it was edited... 

 

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19 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

My understanding is they released the written version in it's entirety ....are you reading otherwise?     CL

Trying to keep up on who is telling the latest lies is hardly worth the effort when the story changes daily.

The White House Official Who Listened To Trump’s Ukraine Call Said The Transcript Was Edited

The top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council told impeachment investigators that the public transcript failed to include key details from Trump's conversation.

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17 hours ago, caz1104 said:

"bash career veterans" that's rich isn't that exactly what the left does, they wrote the book!!......demonize all that disagree.....come on ur better than that

 

Yeah but your guy loves the military. In fact he had more military training than most by going to a military school. He was smart enough to avoid the military he loves so much and now his followers are bashing a decorated military career man... If the left is so bad because they wrote the book, I guess they did a good job because the right is taking pages right out of it... To slam a man who has dedicated his life to serving our nation for a clown who dodged the draft... Makes all these right wing talking heads anything but conservative or patriotic.

 

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12 minutes ago, adhoc10 said:

Trying to keep up on who is telling the latest lies is hardly worth the effort when the story changes daily.

The White House Official Who Listened To Trump’s Ukraine Call Said The Transcript Was Edited

The top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council told impeachment investigators that the public transcript failed to include key details from Trump's conversation.

 

I guess you just have to decide for yourself. Who do you believe a guy who has served his country. Been decorated for his service. Who has nothing to gain. Or the guy who is hiding the unedited transcript. The guy who surrounds himself with people now convicted of crimes. The guy who has everything to lose.... It's one or the other... A man with dignity and respect for the law. Or a man who thinks he is above the law.

 

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I have neighbor who has served in the army for over 20 years. He said, because you wear the uniform does not mean you are a honest or honorable person. Some put it on for selfish reasons, patriotic reasons and for tradition.(Family)

 

To say he has nothing to gain is a bit naive. Who knows if a big bank roll is waiting for him in a bank if he testifies to what he heard and it is a lie. This is why there needs to be complete cross exam of the witness as to their motives. 

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24 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Yeah but your guy loves the military. In fact he had more military training than most by going to a military school. He was smart enough to avoid the military he loves so much and now his followers are bashing a decorated military career man... If the left is so bad because they wrote the book, I guess they did a good job because the right is taking pages right out of it... To slam a man who has dedicated his life to serving our nation for a clown who dodged the draft... Makes all these right wing talking heads anything but conservative or patriotic.

 

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what would that make all the idiots on the left that went after Kavanaugh with ZIP,NADA, ZERO evidence?

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1 minute ago, nstoolman1 said:

I have neighbor who has served in the army for over 20 years. He said, because you wear the uniform does not mean you are a honest or honorable person. Some put it on for selfish reasons, patriotic reasons and for tradition.(Family)

 

To say he has nothing to gain is a bit naive. Who knows if a big bank roll is waiting for him in a bank if he testifies to what he heard and it is a lie. This is why there needs to be complete cross exam of the witness as to their motives. 

just like cops, doctors, lawyers....etc. Just because you are something don't make u a saint. Hell  Kerry went to Viet Nam and then came back and joined the resistance....hellava guy

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2 minutes ago, caz1104 said:

what would that make all the idiots on the left that went after Kavanaugh with ZIP,NADA, ZERO evidence?

 

I don't see the relationship of a president using foreign policy and monies to force a foreign government to effect our political process to confirming a judge. The idea that our president would try to stranglehold another government for his personal benefit seems like a page out of the Twilight Zone, or the doings of a banana republic. It doesn't sound like the actions of a man who is the leader of the free world. JMHO

 

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27 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

I guess you just have to decide for yourself. Who do you believe a guy who has served his country. Been decorated for his service. Who has nothing to gain. Or the guy who is hiding the unedited transcript. The guy who surrounds himself with people now convicted of crimes. The guy who has everything to lose.... It's one or the other... A man with dignity and respect for the law. Or a man who thinks he is above the law.

 

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people have lied...don't matter what clothes they wear or occupation

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Just now, bostonangler said:

 

I don't see the relationship of a president using foreign policy and monies to force a foreign government to effect our political process to confirming a judge. The idea that our president would try to stranglehold another government for his personal benefit seems like a page out of the Twilight Zone, or the doings of a banana republic. It doesn't sound like the actions of a man who is the leader of the free world. JMHO

 

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u brought up trashing a "decorated......

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35 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Yes they edited it... Even the officer who testified yesterday said it was edited... 

 

B/A

 

Edited?......what I know is that 4 staffers.....all CIA related....copy what they hear.....at the end of the call.....they get together....discuss what was heard.....and agree on a final written summary.....that is what we all have seen......the 4+ page summary takes about 10.5 minutes to read as written and the call took longer than that because of the time it took translators to do thier work accurately during the call...

 

A Politico article from January 2017 outlines the whole Ukraine corruption.....I posted that here earlier today......and suggested it would be valuable read.....not too many hits so far....     CL

 

 

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1 minute ago, bostonangler said:

 

I don't see the relationship of a president using foreign policy and monies to force a foreign government to effect our political process to confirming a judge. The idea that our president would try to stranglehold another government for his personal benefit seems like a page out of the Twilight Zone, or the doings of a banana republic. It doesn't sound like the actions of a man who is the leader of the free world. JMHO

 

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seriously....no other president , foreign leader, or elected official has ever leveraged for either personal or political gain? Exactly what rock are u hiding under?

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