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1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

But what I'm really attempting to do here is to get you to offer something more substantial to the conversation

Than your usual Vernacular Twist and Shout. Maybe you could post some of your own articles that substantiate your position.

I know that you're a better man than this. 

 

You know, LadyGrace'sDaddy, I REALLY appreciate Your down to earth and directly to the ACTUAL points needed to fully address the behavior and opinions expressed by this person. Obviously, we all have, or should have, monikers instead of real names to protect personal privacy while there is a real person behind each moniker.

 

Common Foundation. Common Interests. Common Considerations. Simple as that. Each person has a foundation for their beliefs and behaviors while each person, to varying degrees, occasionally (or should only be occasionally) should evaluate and modify where necessary their interests and considerations to foster interdependence for the Common Good based, again, on the Common Foundation consisting of, among other things, of Personal Acknowledgement, Personal Responsibility, AND Personal Ownership. When the Common Foundation is compromised, then Common Interests AND Common Considerations are at least strained AND can be hotly contested.

 

This is why any "Progressive" considerations are directly opposed to the Common Foundation with the associated Rule Of Law derived from Blackstone English Common Law that much of our The United States Of America Rule Of Law is based. To compromise the Common Foundation with the associated Rule Of Law by "Progressively" shifting off the Common Foundation with the associated Rule Of Law means that the whole nature of The United States Of America structure will shift to a whole another foundation that is entirely unstable AND the WHOLE STRUCTURE will collapse in time.

 

Alexis de Tocqueville > Quotes > Quotable Quote

Alexis de Tocqueville

“I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers – and it was not there . . . in her fertile fields and boundless forests and it was not there . . . in her rich mines and her vast world commerce – and it was not there . . . in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution – and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.”


 Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

 

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1008646-i-sought-for-the-greatness-and-genius-of-america-in

 

This is why "Progressive" philosophies and political initiatives augmenting then compromising the Common Foundation with the associated Rule Of Law MUST BE stopped in it's tracks like nipped in the bud.

 

"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips

 

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." --Thomas Paine

 

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

 

"But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing.  It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government." -- Andrew Jackson

 

"There is no substitute for a militant freedom. The only alternative is submission and slavery." --  Calvin Coolidge

 

“There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men.” -- Edmund Burke

 

"Free government is founded in jealousy, not confidence.  It is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions, to bind those we are obliged to trust with power.... In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in men, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson

 

"The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine

 

"If we become a people who are willing to give up our money and our freedom in exchange for rhetoric and promises, then nothing can save us." -- Thomas Sowell

 

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too." -- Somerset Maugham

 

"The trade-off between freedom and security, so often proposed so seductively, very often leads to the loss of both." -- Christopher Hitchens in the August, 2003 issue of Reason.

 

"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur

 

http://freedomkeys.com/vigil.htm

 

So, exercising being True The United States Of America Patriots is REALLY like playing chess with a Liberal AND/OR "Progressive" for THAT matter!!!

 

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Isn't this meme to the point to show how things REALLY are with Liberals and "Progressives"???!!! Either THEY do not comprehend their own differing values from the Common Foundation and associated Rule Of Law AND/OR THEY DO NOT CARE!!! Hence the "contest" THEY have with True The United States Of America Patriots. THEIR "Liberty" is to pursue THEIR interests wholly at the expense of others or at least at minimal resourcing of finances AND/OR time at THEIR expense. THEY believe THEY can spend others' finances AND time with NO Personal Acknowledgment, Personal Responsibility, AND Personal Ownership. No amount of "Vernacular Twist" OR "Shout" can in any way justify ANY Liberal or "Progressive" base.

 

So, the "contestants", who ever they are, are Patriotically engaged by True Patriots WITHOUT True Patriots giving ANY ground on shifting from the Common Ground with the associated Rule Of Law. NOT out of spite or hate or ill will for ANY individual but just being an ACTUAL True The United States Of America Patriot is imperative for Personal Life, Personal Liberty, AND The Personal Pursuit Of Happiness for the True Patriot AND those to follow. NO personal harm or malady or ill will in any way is desired for any Liberal or "Progressive" while NO Compromise or Quarter is to be given by True The United States Of America Patriots in compromising the Common Foundation with the associated Rule Of Law. The masses of the True The United States Of America" who paid the ultimate sacrifice along all those who were wounded and served stand as a testament to the necessary likewise devotion.

 

Certainly this requires ACTUAL Reason AND Common Sense. In light of this, earnest prayer is in order for the well being of This Great Nation The United States Of America in perpetuity AND especially for those individuals who so frequently "contest" True The United States Of America Patriots. Hey, THEY are REAL People, TOO, who desperately NEED to REEVALUATE AND ADJUST THEIR beliefs and behaviors to adapt the Common Foundation with the associated Rule Of Law to ACTUALLY have Common Interests AND Common Considerations for issues that are truly tractable and necessary for perpetuity of Life, Liberty, AND The Pursuit Of (True) Happiness.

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1 hour ago, Synopsis said:

Alexis de Tocqueville > Quotes > Quotable Quote

Alexis de Tocqueville

“I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers – and it was not there . . . in her fertile fields and boundless forests and it was not there . . . in her rich mines and her vast world commerce – and it was not there . . . in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution – and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.”

A very astute and enlightened post, my friend. But alas I'm sadden by the fact that most people here won't even begin to understand 

the massive ramifications of what you have just conveyed. Thus I re-quote your Alexis de  Tocqeville quote. For in it one can find the 

very simple solution to what is now ailing America. 

Most will only blame the issues ailing America as either Democrat or Republican. Others will lock onto certain political subjects such 

as abortion and immigration. But the real issue with America is Faith in God. And that has itself has become dichotomous in many respects.

For ex. Shabbs say's he's a Christian, and I don't doubt that he is. I claim to be Catholic and others here claim various sects of the 

Protestant faith. But in this we've all lost the real issue at hand and that is something I attempt to bring out in my discussions with Shabbs.  

I have very specific views with faith that few here will understand but one that I hold most dear is the knowledge that God accepts all 

who call upon his name. So how is it that Shabbs along with you and I, all Christians, be on such opposite sides of the political issues?

The answer to that can only be found in the Holy Word of God. For in that we find only through pure trust in Jesus Christ by 

the complete and total abandonment of reliance on self or government are we truly ever Great and Blessed. 

And to be both is not to say that life won't bring you trials, but that nothing the world throws at you will ever stick. 

This is what Alexis was trying to say, and this is something that most Americans have lost. 

Nevertheless, Because of a few that won't stop praying I believe that God is moving and that true faith is returning. If only for a little while.

There has always been evil in this world. Which comes in various shapes and sizes and degrees, and until our Lord returns it will remain so.

All persons of faith must, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven". Failing to do so will leave a void that only government will try to fill.

But in the end that is a tool of Satan. This is why we have liberal churches today. And that too can be found in Gods word.

Matthew 15:8

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Most folks think that this means those who claim to be Christian but only follow with there lips are going to hell. But Jesus never said that. 

In this is a great mystery of Faith. We will all be stunned at who gets into Heaven and that because of the mercy of God.

Again at the time that Alexis wrote that comment most of America trusted in Jesus through faith as described above. It's that kind of faith 

that Alexis was talking about and it's that kind of faith that we've lost. 

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1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Most will only blame the issues ailing America as either Democrat or Republican. Others will lock onto certain political subjects such 

as abortion and immigration. But the real issue with America is Faith in God. And that has itself has become dichotomous in many respects.

 

:twothumbs: LadyGrace'sDaddy!!! :tiphat:

 

I only quoted a section but I really liked the whole post. Very to the point and well articulated!!! :bravo:

 

I try to discern the basic foundational considerations and let the actions and words flow from there. The valued considerations for me are most represented by Republicans with a greater likelihood of staving off government and repealing the unnecessary portions of government so I vote for my own hands vs. government.

 

Absolutely, without Faith in God collectively as a whole as described by many who made up the founding of This Great Nation The United States Of America, there is little hope, if any, of maintaining the hard fought and won Life, Liberty, AND The Pursuit Of Happiness.

 

I am honored here to see the True The United States Of America Patriots stand for what REALLY matters for EVERYONE!!! :salute:

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The Truth Is Out There

 

FACT CHECK: IS ALLEGED BOMBER CESAR SAYOC A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT?

9:20 AM 10/28/2018Emily Larsen | Fact Check Reporter

  
 

Laura Loomer, a conservative activist who has worked for Project Veritas and right-wing media outlet The Rebel, said in a tweet that Cesar Sayoc Jr., who allegedly sent potential pipe bombs to Democratic figures, is a registered Democrat.

 

The media is reporting that #CesarSayoc is a Registered Republican.

Documentation actually shows he is a registered DEMOCRAT!

More lies from the media.

 
 
 

 

“The media is reporting that #CesarSayoc is a Registered Republican. Documentation actually shows he is a registered DEMOCRAT! More lies from the media,” Loomer tweeted Friday.

Many other laypeople on Twitter also claimed that Sayoc is a registered Democrat.

 

Verdict: False

Records show that Sayoc registered as a Republican in March 2016.

Fact Check:

Law enforcement arrested Sayoc in Florida Friday in connection with over a dozen suspicious packages containing what appeared to be pipe bombs sent to CNN headquarters, former Secretary of State Hillarious Clinton, former President Barack Obama and other Democratic figures. He faces five federal charges and up to 48 years in prison if convicted.

 

Some people on social media theorized that the packages were a “false flag” operation – sent by Democrats to other Democrats in order to make Republicans look bad before the midterm elections.

Sayoc’s record on Nexis shows that he registered as a Republican in Florida on March 4, 2016. He frequently posted in support of President Donald Trump and criticized Democrats on social media.

Loomer and others pointed to Sayoc’s profile on MyLife, a website that collectsinformation like addresses, birthdays and other public records on adults in the U.S., to back up the claim that he is a registered Democrat.

MyLife listed Sayoc’s party affiliation as the “Democrat Party” as of 3:59 p.m. GMT on Friday, or 11:59 a.m. EST, an archived version of the web page shows. One minute later, it showed his party affiliation was the Republican Party.

It is not clear whether Sayoc’s “Democrat Party” listing was created by MyLife or another user. The company did not respond to a request for comment.

MyLife allows anyone to change public information for a person’s listed political party, ethnicity, religion, income, work history and more. After Sayoc’s arrest, people also edited his profile to say that he worked for the Democratic National Committee and billionaire George Soros and changed his listed religion to “Scientologist” and “Jewish.”

Sayoc is not the only victim of false information on MyLife. The site said that Obamais a member of the Republican Party as of Oct. 27.

ConsumerAffairs reviews for MyLife allege that the website lists incorrect information and that it displays personal information without consent.

Loomer did not respond to a request for comment, but she replied to a correction of her tweet from Daily Caller News Foundation reporter Joe Simonson with skepticism. “He could like Trump but have been a Democrat is [sic] the past. Lots of Democrats changed party affiliation in 2016,” she said. “He clearly changed his registration.”

Nexis does not list any additional party registrations for Sayoc. The Florida Secretary of State’s office did not respond to an inquiry attempting to confirm his voter registration history.

 

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Per usual. there is much to all of this that just doesn't pass the common sense test......let me add this one.....

 

Broward County Florida........heavy left leaning.........Wasserman Schultz, former DNC Chair represents the area.

 

So you have this Van driving around the area.........with all of those stickers..........HRC in the crosshairs and all the other looney tune stuff....

 

Does anyone think a Cop wouldn't just stop the vehicle, or pay a visit to it in a parking lot just to see what was up?

 

If parked, perhaps run a K-9 Dog around it........if there was Bomb Making material in the Van the dog would have easily identified that....

 

Any Trump supporter with an IQ of more than 20 would have realized this type of activity would have been more hurtful than helpful.

 

Pretty crazy what is happening in America these days.........no honor among thieves.........CL

 

Lot's of interesting facts on this thread..........whether or not common sense in all of this prevails, only time will tell.....I doubt the MSM will do much with it.......they are already on to the next train wreck........

 

Looking forward to seeing what madness can be created in this last week before the election......who knows, perhaps the Markets will decline by 2500 pts.......CL

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6 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

Per usual. there is much to all of this that just doesn't pass the common sense test......let me add this one.....

 

Broward County Florida........heavy left leaning.........Wasserman Schultz, former DNC Chair represents the area.

 

So you have this Van driving around the area.........with all of those stickers..........HRC in the crosshairs and all the other looney tune stuff....

 

Does anyone think a Cop wouldn't just stop the vehicle, or pay a visit to it in a parking lot just to see what was up?

 

If parked, perhaps run a K-9 Dog around it........if there was Bomb Making material in the Van the dog would have easily identified that....

 

Any Trump supporter with an IQ of more than 20 would have realized this type of activity would have been more hurtful than helpful.

 

Pretty crazy what is happening in America these days.........no honor among thieves.........CL

 

Lot's of interesting facts on this thread..........whether or not common sense in all of this prevails, only time will tell.....I doubt the MSM will do much with it.......they are already on to the next train wreck........

 

Looking forward to seeing what madness can be created in this last week before the election......who knows, perhaps the Markets will decline by 2500 pts.......CL

That's the purpose behind this thread and the, "Truth is out there", thread. 

I figure putting all the liberal insanity in one place will shine  a brighter light on it.

Also it's really funny watching out house liberals try and defend this stuff. :lmao:

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4 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

That's the purpose behind this thread and the, "Truth is out there", thread. 

I figure putting all the liberal insanity in one place will shine  a brighter light on it.

Also it's really funny watching out house liberals try and defend this stuff. :lmao:

 

It is amazing, LadyGrace'sDaddy, how the liberal insanity defends all this stuff!!! :facepalm3:   :facepalm3:   :facepalm3:

 

Somehow compromising individuals' and group's well being founded and acting on Reasonable Principle related to Blackstone English Common Law, The Declaration Of Independence, AND The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights is "Progressively" the best thing to do to enact Abject Slavery for EVERYONE with IMPOSED Socialism AND is the ONLY Solution for the TOP Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists.

 

And THEN The Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces find it so APPALLING that True The United States Of America Patriots would hold UNSWERVINGLY to Reasonable Principle related to Blackstone English Common Law, The Declaration Of Independence, AND The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights.

 

So, in a manner of dialogue, the Saul Alinsky "Useful Idiot" types use the same REACTION EVERY TIME to show themselves to be devoid of Decency, Reason, AND ACTUAL Common Sense.

 

These same two memes (one with accompanying video) play out EVERY TIME a Decent, Reasonable, AND ACTUAL Common Sense discussion is attempted with the The Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces Saul Alinsky "Useful Idiot" types:

 

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It is ALWAYS the SAME THING from the Saul Alinsky "Useful Idiots" Every Time!!! Just because THEY state some idiocy ONCE, THEY think EVERYONE must accept what THEY say UNQUESTIONABLY without responding in a CONSISTENT Manner EVERY TIME when THEY repeat THEIR Idiocy!!!

 

The Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists REALLY have NOTHING to offer with their PSBS self serving ways where Decency, Reason, AND ACTUAL Common Sense are compromised AND excluded to advance THEIR destructive and REAL agenda.

 

I think THEY KNOW what THEY are doing AND True The United States Of America Patriots ARE NOT going to just "do nothing" AND "let this happen"!!!

 

Hence, the PSBS responses to EVERYTHING with Decency, Reason, AND ACTUAL Common Sense.

 

Elitist Socialist Liberal Leftists - Too Progressively Gone AND Delusional To Egregiously Purport True The United States Of America Patriots Will Just "Do Nothing" AND "Let This Happen"

 

   :shakehead:               :shakehead:               :shakehead:

 

:facepalm2:       :facepalm2:       :facepalm2:

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On 10/27/2018 at 10:50 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

That is the Demoncraps way:lmao:

 

 

You know full well that I get my FACTS from multiple places as you are very fond of ragging on me for posting from Fox News. Truth is you have a problem with reading the truth and thus you don't like anything that displays truth to you. 

You posted that I haven't yet explained to you why words don't matter and I've scoured three threads looking for what you were referring to, Please provide a link to it.

 

Now I feel the need to try and explain something to you that I doubt you will grasp as you have probably lost interest in this post by now.

And that is your problem with the truth and with your posting. You are more interested in finding something in someones post to play your Vernacular Twist and Shout games with than you are in fully digesting what others may be saying to you. And you think your not only right about that, you think your cute. Not to mention that you also think it makes you superior to the rest of us. But the truth is you're failing to see yourself how others see you. You're pretend superior personality is NOT what others see. They see an obtuse little man that only thinks about how to play Vernacular Twist and Shout in an effort to simply belittle people. Is that really how you want to be seen. 

Now, If you're still with me here, {and I doubt it}, you're thinking that I'm disrespecting you or attempting to get you to stop posting or some other silly little thing like that. You posting is needed for this site as everyone's is. This site doesn't work without conversation, yours included.

But what I'm really attempting to do here is to get you to offer something more substantial to the conversation

Than your usual Vernacular Twist and Shout. Maybe you could post some of your own articles that substantiate your position.

I know that you're a better man than this. 

   

 

Here it is LGD, right where you left it.  

 

GO RV, then BV

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14 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Rinse, Repeat.....how many times have you posted these now?  B)

 

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GO RV, then BV

 

The dream is ending and the few left are trying hard to keep it going... It is sad really.... But I do understand. It is hard to let go of something you believe in, even in the end when you know it's over, you still want it to be true.... We've all been there at one time or another.

 

B/A

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56 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Here it is LGD, right where you left it.  

 

GO RV, then BV

Okay, so now some clarity as to the other poster you're referring to. 

I fail to see what more I could have done. I specifically commented on the Alexis quote, and NOTHING else in his post. My comments about the current situation in America were 100% right on. But because I failed to attack a VIP member here you attack me :wacko:

Furthermore, Synopsis is VIP and I have spoken, "IN PRIVATE ",about his posting. That's the respect accrued in VIP. But you know that. 

 

And B/A keep telling yourself that lie about dreams. 

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