Families of Sandy Hook victims go after 'untouchable' gun manufacturers

[umbertino]

A lawsuit over the ads for the rifle used in the 2012 shooting has a remote chance of success but has pushed the gun control debate to the fore in the 2016 election

Lois Beckett

Wednesday 20 April 2016 18.05 BST

For a seven-year-old, Daniel Barden was unusually compassionate. He worried when he saw anyone isolated. His mother remembers him sitting next to a special needs girl in his class to “make sure she was OK”. She would always lose her glasses, and Daniel would always find them.

“He felt if you were alone, it was a problem,” his mother said.

On a Friday morning not long before Christmas 2012, a disturbed 20-year-old drove up to Daniel’s elementary school. He had been the kind of boy that Daniel might have reached out to, Daniel’s father would think later. For years, Adam Lanza had struggled with severe anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder. He was so gaunt a report would conclude he was anorexic. He had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome and had grown increasingly isolated during middle and high school. By the time he was 20, he had little social contact except with his mother, and no record of continuing mental health treatment.

Just after 9.30am, Lanza shot his way through Sandy Hook elementary school’s locked front door. He was carrying a military-style rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. In roughly five minutes, officials said, he had fired 154 times, killing 20 first-graders and six staff members. Then, as police began arriving at the school, he killed himself.

Daniel was one of the 20 six- and seven-year-olds that Newtown, Connecticut had to bury that month. Several weeks after the memorial service for her youngest son, Jackie Barden went to the family room and sat down at the computer. Her family knew very little about firearms. Her two older children had questions about what had happened to Daniel, and so did she. “How could somebody even know about this weapon? That was my thought,” she said. “How would this young boy learn about this weapon and what it does?”

What Jackie found with a quick Google search were the macho advertising campaigns for Bushmaster, the company that manufactured the rifle that had been used to murder her son. “Consider your man card reissued,” one ad read, with a photo of a black rifle. “Forces of opposition, bow down,” another read.

For a mother whose child had been shot to death by that rifle in his first-grade classroom, the images were shocking.

She remembered thinking: “How can it be, in this day and age, that they’re advertising like this? This is so irresponsible.”

To the Barden family, the ads seemed designed to appeal to exactly the kind of troubled young man who had killed their son. “Here you have this machine that was designed for use by the military being sold to civilians, to untrained civilians, with aggressive military battlefield language,” her husband, Mark, said. “And guess what? History has shown that these people who are suicidal, disturbed individuals who are bent on killing large numbers of people – that’s the weapon they choose.”

“We were told very early on, well, that’s just the way it is and the gun manufacturers are untouchable,” Jackie said.

But they talked with an attorney about their concerns about the advertising, she said, and months later the attorney got back in touch; a lawsuit might actually be possible. In December 2014, working with a prominent Connecticut law firm that specializes in medical malpractice and injury suits, the Bardens, one survivor of the Sandy Hook shooting, and eight other family members of victims filed a lawsuit against the maker, distributor and dealer of the Bushmaster rifle used in the shooting.

Families of six year-olds Dylan Hockley, David Wheeler, Jesse McCord Lewis and Noah Pozner are part of the lawsuit, along with surviving teacher Natalie Hammond, the families of teachers Vicki Soto and Lauren Rousseau, behavioral therapist Rachel Marie D’Avino and school psychologist Mary Sherlach.

The companies’ militaristic marketing of the AR-15 style rifles is at the center of the suit. From a legal perspective, experts say, the lawsuit has a remote chance of success. But it has gained political prominence in the Democratic presidential race, with Hillar-y Clinton using her support for the lawsuit as a rallying point on her way to victory in the New York state primary, and Bernie Sanders facing increasing criticism for his comments against it.

The Vermont senator has repeatedly said that he does not think it is right for a local gun dealer who legally sold a gun to be held responsible if someone later uses that gun to commit a crime. “If it’s getting into the hands of criminals, of course they should be held liable,” Sanders said at a March debate. “But if they are selling a product to a person who buys it legally, what you’re really talking about is ending gun manufacturing in America. I don’t agree with that.”

At the most recent debate, Sanders said he did not think he owed the Sandy Hook families an apology for his remarks, but also shifted in saying: “They have the right to sue, and I support them and anyone else who wants the right to sue.”

The Sanders campaign did not respond to a request for comment last week on whether this represented a change in the senator’s position.

“I think he embarrassed himself,” Mark Barden said of Sanders. He and Jackie wrote a Washington Post op-ed last month arguing that Sanders had misunderstood the point of their lawsuit.

Clinton is continuing to push on the issue of gun violence. Her campaign said she would speak on gun violence in Hartford on Thursday and meet with gun violence victims, including Sandy Hook families.

Jackie said one major goal of the lawsuit is to reveal information about who gun companies target with their marketing, what the industry’s internal strategies are, and how gun companies work with videogame companies to feature their weapons in violent games.

“I think that who they are focusing on in their advertisements are young men that maybe do not feel manly and secure, and who are disenfranchised with their lives and maybe feel powerless,” Jackie said. From what the parents learned about the Sandy Hook shooter, he was a loner, angry, “and didn’t have a lot of power”, she said. “This was his way to show his power.”

Lanza had been able to choose from several different weapons before he drove to her son’s elementary school. Jackie did not think it was an accident that he chose the Bushmaster rifle: “That one was telling him, if you want power, this is for you.”

 

‘The whole thing is a farce’

For gun rights advocates, the lawsuit is yet another attempt by people who know little about guns to demonize a rifle that is functionally no different from many other weapons.

“The whole thing, from our perspective, is a farce,” said Bob Crook, a lobbyist and the executive director of the Coalition of Connecticut Sportsmen, a group that represents roughly 40,000 fishing, hunting, shooting and outdoor enthusiasts. (Crook, he noted, is a “hell of a name for a lobbyist”.)

Actual weapons of war, Crook said, are capable of fully automatic fire, spraying a constant stream of ammunition. Civilian ownership of these kinds of fully automatic weapons has been severely monitored and restricted since 1934.

Semi-automatic rifles, including the AR-15, fire one round with every pull of the trigger – a characteristic of a wide range of modern firearms. The AR-15 “fires no faster than any other semi-automatic”, Crook said. “This stuff about ‘it’s a weapon of war’ – it’s just plain stupid.”

The AR-15 style of rifle that had been used at Sandy Hook is extremely popular with American gun owners, who praise it for being light, adaptable and easy to handle. Compared with handguns, rifles are used rarely in murders.

“They’re made to appeal to the general public, and the general public has bought millions and millions of them,” Crook said.

“If they were marketing to disturbed young men, or disturbed men in general, we’d have millions and millions of disturbed men in the country,” he said. “It isn’t rational.”

In 2005, Congress passed a shield law that blocked certain kinds of liability suits against firearms companies. The defendants in the Sandy Hook lawsuit – including manufacturers Remington and Bushmaster; Camfour, a firearms distributor; and a local Connecticut gun store – say the Sandy Hook lawsuit against them is exactly what the federal shield law was designed to prevent: a tragic misuse of a product being blamed on its legal manufacturers.

Clinton has made repealing the firearms shield law one of the rallying points of her campaign, decrying “the greed and recklessness of gun manufacturers and dealers in America”.

She has also used her fight agains the gun company immunity law to hammer her opponent. Sanders voted in favor of the law.

Lawyers for the Bardens and the other families involved in the lawsuit are hoping to succeed in their suit despite the shield law. The 2005 law does not shield gun companies from liability if they knowingly violate a state or federal law, if their products are defective, or if they negligently entrust their products to someone who clearly should not have them.

The weapons Lanza used were legally purchased by his mother, and they worked exactly as they were designed to do. But Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder, the Connecticut law firm representing the families in the case, is arguing, in a creative legal move, that military-style weapons are unsafe for any untrained civilian to own or use, and that the gun companies they are suing are negligent to have entrusted them to any member of the general public.

The families participating in the lawsuit saw a small victory last week when Judge Barbara Bellis denied the gun companies’ motion to dismiss the lawsuit. The ruling was a narrow and technical one, however, which did not address the central question of the suit: whether it can go forward despite the federal shield law.

On Tuesday, in Bridgeport, Connecticut, the court set a potential trial date of 3 April 2018. To get to trial, the suit has to survive a new motion by the gun companies to strike the case. Adam Winkler, a second amendment expert at the UCLA School of Law, wrote in an email that the gun companies “are likely to win” that motion.

Mark Barden, who was at court on Tuesday, said he was surprised and excited that the lawsuit had even made it this far.

Josh Koskoff, one of the attorneys representing the families, said they are eager to start the discovery process, which would allow the plaintiffs to obtain internal documents and interviews from the gun companies. “We’ve already filed requests for production of documents,” he said.

The gun companies have filed a motion to delay the discovery process until the court rules on their motion to strike the case. Judge Bellis will rule on whether discovery can move forward on 5 May.

For the Sandy Hook families involved in the case, a lawsuit focused on the weapon used in the shooting is only one of the many fronts in their push to prevent other school shootings, including fighting for stricter gun laws and helping to develop and spread intervention and prevention programs at the local level.

Mark Barden says their family, including their 16-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter, tries to live a quiet life outside of their advocacy work. “We spend a lot of time with our kids and each other,” he said. “We pretty much hunker down at home. We’re not very social.”

“Everything that happens magnifies what our loss is,” Jackie said. “I would much prefer having Daniel in his bed.”

As they continue to deal with his loss, the family has tried to do small things to add brightness to their lives, Jackie said. They worry less about money. They go out to dinner more often. “I look at my kitchen and I have flowers on my table. Before this happened, I would never buy flowers,” she said. “We were worrying about every dime.” But even these small efforts are a reminder. “Now I buy flowers,” she said, “and the flowers represent what happened to us.”

To see all the political attention the lawsuit is getting is a “strange feeling”, she said. “It really doesn’t bring that much happiness.”

The parents of Daniel Barden are leading the lawsuit against the maker, distributor and dealer of the Bushmaster rifle used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook shooting.

Photograph: Rex/Shutterstock

 

 

An advertisement for the Bushmaster rifle.

Photograph: PR

 

Victims whose families are filing the lawsuit include (clockwise from top left): Daniel Barden, Victoria Soto, Dylan Hockley, Rachel Marie D’Avino, Benjamin Wheeler, Jesse McCord Lewis, Mary Joy Sherlach, Noah Pozner and Lauren Rousseau.

Composite: AP, Reuters & Rex

 

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/20/newtown-sandy-hook-shooting-lawsuit-gun-control-election

Edited April 20, 2016 by umbertino

[SnowGlobe7]

My friend was killed by a drunk driver...should I sue Chevrolet?

[nstoolman1]

The Bushmaster was found in the trunk. How could it be the murder weapon? 

[gymrat76541]

What's next?

Law suits against car makers for selling a car to a crazy driver who runs over people?

Law suits against beer makers when someone is hit with a bottle in a bar fight?

Law suits against knife makers when someone attacks with a kitchen knife?

Law suits against hammer makers when someone misses the nail and hits their finger?

Law suits against nail makers when you run over a nail in the road?

The list is endless. Bottom line is a gun is a tool. Yes, it can be miss used but liability is on the USER - not on the maker!

Edited April 20, 2016 by gymrat76541

[RV ME]

"A lawsuit over the ads for the rifle used in the 2012 shooting has a remote chance of success."

A perfect example of why we need tort reform, starting with loser pays in civil cases.  That would put an end to most frivolous lawsuits immediately.

[Shabibilicious]

16 hours ago, gymrat76541 said:

What's next?

Law suits against car makers for selling a car to a crazy driver who runs over people?

Law suits against beer makers when someone is hit with a bottle in a bar fight?

Law suits against knife makers when someone attacks with a kitchen knife?

Law suits against hammer makers when someone misses the nail and hits their finger?

Law suits against nail makers when you run over a nail in the road?

The list is endless. Bottom line is a gun is a tool. Yes, it can be miss used but liability is on the USER - not on the maker!

I don't know......maybe Law suits against Saudi Arabia because 15 of their citizens perpetrated 9-11  

GO RV, then BV

[divemaster5734]

17 hours ago, SnowGlobe7 said:

My friend was killed by a drunk driver...should I sue Chevrolet?

Heh, sue obama for helping to build the stinking roads.

If the highways only had just a few more potholes no one could go faster than 20 mph.

then add to paving companys, the unions, and the union memberships for heartlessly contributing to so many deaths in their greedy pursuit of money.

and add the tire makers, gas producers, entire country of china, every civil engineering school, and dont forget the democratic party, because if those ignorant hypocrites weren't filling the roads with those stinking tree huggers that drive 10 miles below the speed limit and making traffic jams in every city the total number of accidents would be cut to a fraction.

17 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

The Bushmaster was found in the trunk. How could it be the murder weapon? 

The unabashed and flagrant hypocrisy is offensive.

How about we start a new holiday, Socialist Smash Sunday.

hahaha.. just think of how many of those two faced bleeding hearts will suddenly "see the light" once they get their lights punched out.

But then, if we forced all those "concerned" activists submit to a background check to be sure they are actually "honorable" there'd be a lot less convicted child molesters trying to be allowed to go into women locker rooms, and  we would have to have an emergency vote to replace the 90% of democrat, and 50% of RINO politicians that are guilty of tax evasion.

16 hours ago, gymrat76541 said:

What's next?

Law suits against car makers for selling a car to a crazy driver who runs over people?

Law suits against beer makers when someone is hit with a bottle in a bar fight?

Law suits against knife makers when someone attacks with a kitchen knife?

Law suits against hammer makers when someone misses the nail and hits their finger?

Law suits against nail makers when you run over a nail in the road?

The list is endless. Bottom line is a gun is a tool. Yes, it can be miss used but liability is on the USER - not on the maker!

Thats their problem, dont cha know?

They CANT go after the ignorant stupid and lazy end user, the democratic party would overnight loose the majority of their supporters to various prison, and how could they do all those aggressive "demonstrations" if all the protesters were where they belonged?

14 hours ago, RV ME said:

"A lawsuit over the ads for the rifle used in the 2012 shooting has a remote chance of success."

 

A perfect example of why we need tort reform, starting with loser pays in civil cases.  That would put an end to most frivolous lawsuits immediately.

 

Plus remove immunity from prosecutors, and no more conviction bonus for judges.

[divemaster5734]

17 hours ago, SnowGlobe7 said:

My friend was killed by a drunk driver...should I sue Chevrolet?

Heh, sue obama for helping to build the stinking roads.

If the highways only had just a few more potholes no one could go faster than 20 mph.

then add to paving companys, the unions, and the union memberships for heartlessly contributing to so many deaths in their greedy pursuit of money.

and add the tire makers, gas producers, entire country of china, every civil engineering school, and dont forget the democratic party, because if those ignorant hypocrites weren't filling the roads with those stinking tree huggers that drive 10 miles below the speed limit and making traffic jams in every city the total number of accidents would be cut to a fraction.

17 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

The Bushmaster was found in the trunk. How could it be the murder weapon? 

The unabashed and flagrant hypocrisy is offensive.

How about we start a new holiday, Socialist Smash Sunday.

hahaha.. just think of how many of those two faced bleeding hearts will suddenly "see the light" once they get their lights punched out.

But then, if we forced all those "concerned" activists submit to a background check to be sure they are actually "honorable" there'd be a lot less convicted child molesters trying to be allowed to go into women locker rooms, and  we would have to have an emergency vote to replace the 90% of democrat, and 50% of RINO politicians that are guilty of tax evasion.

16 hours ago, gymrat76541 said:

What's next?

Law suits against car makers for selling a car to a crazy driver who runs over people?

Law suits against beer makers when someone is hit with a bottle in a bar fight?

Law suits against knife makers when someone attacks with a kitchen knife?

Law suits against hammer makers when someone misses the nail and hits their finger?

Law suits against nail makers when you run over a nail in the road?

The list is endless. Bottom line is a gun is a tool. Yes, it can be miss used but liability is on the USER - not on the maker!

Thats their problem, dont cha know?

They CANT go after the ignorant stupid and lazy end user, the democratic party would overnight loose the majority of their supporters to various prison, and how could they do all those aggressive "demonstrations" if all the protesters were where they belonged?

14 hours ago, RV ME said:

"A lawsuit over the ads for the rifle used in the 2012 shooting has a remote chance of success."

 

A perfect example of why we need tort reform, starting with loser pays in civil cases.  That would put an end to most frivolous lawsuits immediately.

 

Plus remove immunity from prosecutors, and no more conviction bonus for judges.

[divemaster5734]

17 hours ago, SnowGlobe7 said:

My friend was killed by a drunk driver...should I sue Chevrolet?

Heh, sue obama for helping to build the stinking roads.

If the highways only had just a few more potholes no one could go faster than 20 mph.

then add to paving companys, the unions, and the union memberships for heartlessly contributing to so many deaths in their greedy pursuit of money.

and add the tire makers, gas producers, entire country of china, every civil engineering school, and dont forget the democratic party, because if those ignorant hypocrites weren't filling the roads with those stinking tree huggers that drive 10 miles below the speed limit and making traffic jams in every city the total number of accidents would be cut to a fraction.

17 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

The Bushmaster was found in the trunk. How could it be the murder weapon? 

The unabashed and flagrant hypocrisy is offensive.

How about we start a new holiday, Socialist Smash Sunday.

hahaha.. just think of how many of those two faced bleeding hearts will suddenly "see the light" once they get their lights punched out.

But then, if we forced all those "concerned" activists submit to a background check to be sure they are actually "honorable" there'd be a lot less convicted child molesters trying to be allowed to go into women locker rooms, and  we would have to have an emergency vote to replace the 90% of democrat, and 50% of RINO politicians that are guilty of tax evasion.

16 hours ago, gymrat76541 said:

What's next?

Law suits against car makers for selling a car to a crazy driver who runs over people?

Law suits against beer makers when someone is hit with a bottle in a bar fight?

Law suits against knife makers when someone attacks with a kitchen knife?

Law suits against hammer makers when someone misses the nail and hits their finger?

Law suits against nail makers when you run over a nail in the road?

The list is endless. Bottom line is a gun is a tool. Yes, it can be miss used but liability is on the USER - not on the maker!

Thats their problem, dont cha know?

They CANT go after the ignorant stupid and lazy end user, the democratic party would overnight loose the majority of their supporters to various prison, and how could they do all those aggressive "demonstrations" if all the protesters were where they belonged?

14 hours ago, RV ME said:

"A lawsuit over the ads for the rifle used in the 2012 shooting has a remote chance of success."

 

A perfect example of why we need tort reform, starting with loser pays in civil cases.  That would put an end to most frivolous lawsuits immediately.

 

Plus remove immunity from prosecutors, and no more conviction bonus for judges.

[divemaster5734]

oh snap, can any moderator delete the duplicates?

The server didnt respond when I posted, so I clicked submit three times, and finally had to log out.

sorry for burning up your screens.

[Shabibilicious]

38 minutes ago, divemaster5734 said:

How about we start a new holiday, Socialist Smash Sunday.

Stealing Trump's thunder is never a good idea........Nobody appreciates a frivolous lawsuit more than him.    

GO RV, then BV

[bigwave]

I hope they cover the following in the "Trial:"

1. Why was a Facebook webpage for the alleged dead teacher Victoria Soto of Sandy Hook Elementary School posted before the event occurred?

2. Why was the United Way charity webpage for Sandy Hook posted before the event occurred?

Google caught evidence of foreknowledge: this United Way charity website page was launched on Dec. 11th, 2012, a full 3 days before the mass shooting at Sandy Hook actually occurred!

3. How did the Arlington Red Devils website post the book on Talking With Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting on 12/10/2012 (which was contained in the page url), 4 days before the event occurred? If this were some kind of technical glitch, then how did Google’s bots manage to record a cached page for 12/13/2012, still 1 day before the Sandy Hook shooting happened?

4. How did John Trentacosta (whose house was next to the Lanzas with a lot of activity occurring there at the time), who was CEO of the local Newton bank, start a victims’ fund on the same day so quickly after the event, after receiving in his words “countless requests” to do so? Is it just a coincidence that Trentacosta was also a member of a new council of the New York Federal Reserve, the Community Depository Institutions Advisory Council?

5. According to various researchers, why was the Newtown community seeded with new families in the years leading up to the event?

6. According to Wolfgang Halbig, why were 16 state troopers pre-positioned 45-60 minutes before the alleged shooting?

7. Why did the media keep switching its narrative as the story unfolded regarding the actual weapon used? Finally they settled upon a rifle. But how could a rifle kill 26 people in such quick succession?

8. Why did known actor and Sandy Hook witness Gene Rosen keep changing his story about how he encountered the 6 kids who allegedly came to him? In different interviews he variously claims he found the kids just after feeding his cats in the loft, just after going to breakfast and just after coming home from breakfast. His testimony completely conflicts with that of the school bus driver and the official report. There is also video of him near the 

, plus a video of him 

 with the cameraman.

9. How was a skinny 19-year-old boy with no military training capable of killing 26 people clean while injuring none? (Trained military veterans have claimed it was highly unlikely or even impossible for someone with the weight of Adam Lanza to execute that many people in so short a time.)

10. Why was there no evidence of blood? A total of 26 fatalities (children and adult) would produce at least at a conservative estimate 20 gallons (75 liters) of blood. Thus would require a concerted blood cleanup (blood is considered a biohazard in this type of situation), yet when Sofia Smallstorm asked who did the cleanup, all the departments were ignorant of it and even claimed that no one did the cleanup.

11. Where are the alleged 600+ children of Sandy Hook Elementary School? Why is there absolutely no photo or video evidence of any dead bodies? Why did coroner 

?

Uh, we did not bring the bodies and the families into contact. We took pictures of them, uhm, of their facial features. We have, uh, uh—it’s easier on the families when you do that. Un, there is, uh, a time and place for the up close and personal in the grieving process, but to accomplish this we thought it would be best to do it this way and, uh, you can sort of, uh … You can control a situation depending on the photographer, and I have very good photographers. Uh, but uh—

12. According to Wolfgang Halbig, why do the records show no social security numbers for the dead students?

13. According to Wolfgang Halbig, why do the records show no report of actual shots fired?

14. According to Wolfgang Halbig, why does the Sandy Hook shooting crime not exist on the FBI 2012 crime report?

15. According to Wolfgang Halbig, why does the tax accessor’s website shows the victims’ families got free houses on Christmas day when all Government offices are closed?

16. Why were all the ambulances parked at the fire house away from the crime scene (except one on Dickinson Dr. which was also too far removed to be helpful)? Why were so few EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians) allowed in the school?

17. Why does the iconic image of the teacher leading kids out of school contain evidence of Photoshop doctoring and fakery?

The iconic image of Sandy Hook – the evacuation – shows numerous signs of fakery, from Photoshop doctoring to EXIF data.

18. Why does the Sandy Hook Timeline of Evacuation not match the video evidence from the trooper’s car stationed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School car park?

19. Why was there a big electronic sign erected at the entrance to the Sandy Hook Elementary school stating “EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN” if the event were real and not a drill?

20. Why was there an active shooter drill at around the same place and the same time as the Sandy Hook event? Every recent false flag since at least 9/11 has had this element.

21. Why are people 

? Why was there such a lack of urgency in the emergency personnel who were responding for many hours after 10am when people were still unaccounted for (e.g. nurse Sally Cox who claims she hid in a closet for 4 hours until 1:15pm)?

22. If Sandy Hook Elementary School was a legitimate and operational school at the time of the event, why is there evidence that the school shut in 2009 due to asbestos, was reinspected in 2011, and was flooded again with Hurricanes Irene and Sandy? We know FEMA and the US Federal Government supplied money to Newtown to revitalize it. Why does the local business Apex Glass claim they were using the school premises for their glass business.

 

23. Why were the entire school grounds of what we were told was “Sandy Hook Elementary School” demolished and rebuilt? Does this remind you of how the metal scraps from 9/11 were immediately shipped off to China before they could be examined for evidence?

24. Why did Town Clerk Debbie Aurelia and Connecticut State Attorney Kevin Kane refuse to release the death certificates and the names of the “victims”? Why did Connecticut officials conspire to pass an unprecedented bill banning FOIA requests and access to death certificates and other information, normally part of the public record as a matter of course for centuries? Connecticut GovernorDannel Malloy signed the bill on June 5th, 2013.

25. Why were there so many black and silver (Government-type) cars around the school and fire house in place before the event?

26. According to Sofia Smallstorm, why were the exact number (26) of Christmas trees for the memorial already sitting outside the fire house before the event occurred?

27. Why do so many of the victims’ family members appear to be acting, smirking, giggling, snickering and outright laughing after the event, such as 

?

28. How does one explain the highly strange behavior of 

, the chief medical examiner and coroner? Why did Carver say that “You can control a situation depending on your photographer, and I have very good photographers”? Why did Carver say that “I hope the people of Newtown don’t have it crash on their heads later”?

29. Why did Lieutenant Paul Vance 

?

30. Why did the 

 say that “The Lieutenant Governor and I have been spoken to in an attempt that we might be prepared for something like this playing itself out in our state”?

31. Why did no one sue the school or the estate of Nancy Lanza?

32. How is it that no parent wanted to see the dead bodies of their children in the school?

33. Why were all the funerals conducted with closed caskets?

 

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

***///

More manipulation of the masses by the criminal usurper in Our White House and his evil masters.

There's a special place in hell for these monsters and every single one of their tools they use to put

over sick trash like this. 

 

Thanks for a great post, BIGWAVE.... the folks need to wake up and stop the knee-jerk reaction to 

all this b.s. the NWO / OWO globalists are using to get a rise and a reaction out of US in order to

further strip US of our God-given Rights and manipulate US with all these mind-f****ing "events".

 

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[Shabibilicious]

That's a pretty big nugget to have to explain at the Pearly Gates......I think I'll error on the side of slaughtered children.    

GO RV, then BV

[new york kevin]

4 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

I don't know......maybe Law suits against Saudi Arabia because 15 of their citizens perpetrated 9-11  

GO RV, then BV

I knew we would agree on something, eventually. I just didn't think it would take so long.  Kumbyya, or however that word is spelt.   The Saudi's are liable because they provided the money , facilities, and training ; inorder to get the training to fly the planes into the twin towers, Pentagon, and that field in Pennsylvania (I think). That last designed crash was actually intended for the White House many theorize . What would be wrong would be to sue the plane manufacturers for the lives and property that were taken.

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

***///

Saudi's not solely liable...

bush cabal and their hand-selected operatives involved must also answer...

 

.

[Shabibilicious]

Don't forget the box cutter company's culpability.  

GO RV, then BV

[bigwave]

"According to Wolfgang Halbig, why does the tax accessor’s website shows the victims’ families got free houses on Christmas day when all Government offices are closed? "

When my sister got murdered why didn't my Mom get a "free" house on Christmas?