ronscarpa Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Check this YouTube link: The article & video were Published on Oct 20, 2012 by Şahin Hobiler It mentions HyperInflation .. which is definitely NOT the case in Iraq, but it's worth watching anyway for a perspective. We're at that time when it all NEEDS to be done ASAP...! Enjoy, RON Edited July 9, 2013 by ronscarpa 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunshow2425 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Thanks Ron. You always have a quality post. Isn't the budget coming out in a couple months? Probably hidden in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robboys33 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 please no more budget talks nothing is ever in them worth reading 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQD1217 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Old !! but it's doesn't mean anything till they reduce the money supply and reduce the US dollar in the country !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Thanks Ron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronberta Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 thanks ron for this post, very interesting indeed! only wish it had been said this week still very good and knowing that this process is pushing forward, thanks ron my best ron sorry could not resist how are you my friend!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepguy Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 this really screams l,o,p ing shears and from 2012 to now , I am really hoping that from the release from chapter 7 and the release of the d.f.i. funds back to Iraq , that they have changed their attitude toward the dang bunny hopping crap , with the announcement that the dinar could with stand 2.50 inside and outside Iraq, and the newest article stating they need to call the date to reset the dinar , that in fact they have seen the light and can have the dinar worth exactly 1 to 1 with out the zero`s coming off the bills , { I am going to keep on seeing , what we can`t see , and believe they will do a 1 too 1 ratio of exchange } why would they kick the Iraqi citizen , in the teeth now that they have shown they are very rich in the country and banking , { only thing corruption } ......... worry and waiting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalNewb Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yep... The said RV and RD in this interview. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQD1217 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Iraq Between 1987 and 1995 the Iraqi Dinar went from an official value of 0.306 Dinars/USD (or $3.26 USD per dinar, though the black market rate is thought to have been substantially lower) to 3000 Dinars/USD due to government printing of 10s of trillions of dinars starting with a base of only 10s of billions. That equates to approximately 315% inflation per year averaged over that eight-year period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier1470 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 This theory still doesn't make sense for Iraq! Why throw away a hundred million dollars..or in this case...dinar? Money is still owed...and I can almost guarantee that kumait..and any other country that Iraq owes are not going to lop off 3 zeros from the amount owed them!! So..if the zeros are removed...it will be just as has been stated so many times...the two currencies will remain valid for a period..and both a 25 dinar note..as well as a 25k dinar note will hold the same value in dollars!! This is the only feasible scenario!! So...we don't have anything to be concerned with...either way...we are going to receive an amazing return on our original investment!! Iraq is much different than turkey..or any of the other countries that lopped off zeros. Those countries had to do it because of financial lack due to hyperinflation, etc....Iraq is doing it because they are so wealthy...and their current notes are so large...the citizen on the street can't make change at the current exchange rate...and they definitely wouldn't be able to after the rate is substantially increased!! Just my 2¢!! God Bless..and don't be concerned!! Everything is going to come out BETTER than what most think!!! .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Easy with those headlines, your going to give someone a heart attack!! Lol. Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hame55 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) This is old video. (yes it is dated) I think they did have hyperinflation. They say Saddam overprinted. Whether this was carried over when the Bremmer exchange happened is another story. Of course they don't have hyperinf. now = they are under 10% But the big question is, what exactly is the structure of their money supply now and ii it still affected by past hyperinflation. IraqBetween 1987 and 1995 the Iraqi Dinar went from an official value of 0.306 Dinars/USD (or $3.26 USD per dinar, though the black market rate is thought to have been substantially lower) to 3000 Dinars/USD due to government printing of 10s of trillions of dinars starting with a base of only 10s of billions. That equates to approximately 315% inflation per year averaged over that eight-year period. OK - now the next step. Because you seem to have a grasp of the currency's history, what exactly happened when the old Saddam dinar you are referencing here were EXCHANGED to Bremmer IQD (150 to one?) Are you saying this past hyperinflation was continued by intention by the US government and adopted into the new currency? That doesn't make sense. It would seem the exchange would wipe that out because that past hyperinflation would make the new currency weak. No one has addressed this topic fully, at least to my satisfaction Edited July 10, 2013 by hame55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laid Back Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 1:1.16 Go RV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbster Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 this really screams l,o,p ing shears and from 2012 to now , I am really hoping that from the release from chapter 7 and the release of the d.f.i. funds back to Iraq , that they have changed their attitude toward the dang bunny hopping crap , with the announcement that the dinar could with stand 2.50 inside and outside Iraq, and the newest article stating they need to call the date to reset the dinar , that in fact they have seen the light and can have the dinar worth exactly 1 to 1 with out the zero`s coming off the bills , { I am going to keep on seeing , what we can`t see , and believe they will do a 1 too 1 ratio of exchange } why would they kick the Iraqi citizen , in the teeth now that they have shown they are very rich in the country and banking , { only thing corruption } ......... worry and waiting As has been stated many times about that article referring to the imfamous $2.50 value, they are not saying they could support a rate of two dollars and fifty cents, the article stated they have approximately 2.5 times the value of USD's in reserve (80 billion) as iraqi dinar that equal that value (33 trillian/1166 = roughly 28 billion USD after conversion). With that being said, even a jump to 412.5/1 would be incredible, which is what they claim they cover on USD reserves alone (the math comes down to a roughly 2.826 multiplier coverage. 1166 divided by the 2.826 = 412.5). The fact they can cover this with USD alone is a good sign, but please do not keep getting this confused with an RV value of two dollars and fifty cents, that is not what that article was referencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQD1217 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Iraq from September 2003 to January 2004. The currency exchange program ran from October 15 2003 to January 15 2004. Currency exchange was necessary for five reasons; (1) Two currencies were in circulation, the old Swiss Dinar in the north and the Saddam Dinar in the Rest of the country; (2) Inadequate numbers of denominations existed, the Swiss Dinar came in 3 denominations and the Saddam came in only two denominations; (3) The currency was poorly made and easily counterfeited; (4) The Saddam Dinar had been devalued and the public had little trust in it; (5) The presence of Saddam On the currency was inappropriate. But, in the great majority of the country, they had the Saddam Dinar with Saddam's face on it. There were basically only two denominations of that: there was a 10,000-dinar Note, which was worth about $5, and there was a 250-dinar note, which was worth about 12.5 cents, 12 cents. The reason its value had dropped so low was because of Saddam’s Inflationary monetary policy. In comparison, back in the '80s, before the Saddam Dinar came about, the rate of exchange was about $3 to one Dinar. But because of Saddam There was now a total upside-down situation where one dollar was worth about 2,300 Dinar. ” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMULS31 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 That video is old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfly Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenmillion Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) This theory still doesn't make sense for Iraq! Why throw away a hundred million dollars..or in this case...dinar? Money is still owed...and I can almost guarantee that kumait..and any other country that Iraq owes are not going to lop off 3 zeros from the amount owed them!! So..if the zeros are removed...it will be just as has been stated so many times...the two currencies will remain valid for a period..and both a 25 dinar note..as well as a 25k dinar note will hold the same value in dollars!! This is the only feasible scenario!! So...we don't have anything to be concerned with...either way...we are going to receive an amazing return on our original investment!! Iraq is much different than turkey..or any of the other countries that lopped off zeros. Those countries had to do it because of financial lack due to hyperinflation, etc....Iraq is doing it because they are so wealthy...and their current notes are so large...the citizen on the street can't make change at the current exchange rate...and they definitely wouldn't be able to after the rate is substantially increased!! Just my 2¢!! God Bless..and don't be concerned!! Everything is going to come out BETTER than what most think!!! Kuwait is paid from the DFI account using dollars, not dinars. Many countries wait until inflation is stable before re-denominating...some wait years. "In countries where hyperinflation has occurred, governments face an uphill struggle when it comes to regaining the confidence of international markets and domestic constituents. The most direct means is through a stabilization program, which generally involves using either exchange rate-based or monetary-oriented targeting; increasing the operational independence of the central bank; and removing distortionary economic policies. In many cases, such stabilization occurs the aegis of an IMF standby agreement. Redenomination can play into this process, in two ways: first, it can be used at the end of a stabilization, to signify to citizens and private markets that the days of high inflation are over. Used in this way, redenomination is largely symbolic: inflation has been tamed via other means, and the removal of zeros simply serves to remind citizens and investors of the success in fighting inflation ñ or to remove a very visible reminder of an inflationary past. A new currency is largely the result of, not the cause of, stabilization (Bernholz 1995). When this mechanism holds, we should expect that redenomination will occur after a period of high inflation, but also after that inflation has been removed from the system; a dramatic downward change in inflation should increase the chances for redenomination. Pressures from international capital markets, from the IMF, and from politically independent central banks can help motivate anti-inflationary measures (e.g. Simmons 1994, Stone 2002), as well as subsequent redenomination. " http://www.unc.edu/~lmosley/APSA%202005.pdf (page 6) .. Edited July 10, 2013 by tenmillion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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