Are Obama supporters unpatriotic?

[DinarMillionaire]

I'm voting for Obama, and my income is in the top 5 percent in the country. Care to come up with a new argument?

Ahhh Simple, you're right. I should have been more careful not to classify all Democrats as the Moocher class. I should have clarified that while not all Democrats are Moochers, the majority of Moochers are Democrats and not all Democrats are Communist/Socialist/Marxist, but pretty much all Communist/Socialist/Marxist are Democrats.

As for the rest of ya, my guess would be, you're un-patriotic and/or you just hate America and the Constitution as much as Obama and his wife do, as do Communist/Marxist/Socialist. Or you're too ignorant to see through Obama's onslaught of bullshet. Cause his record on just about everything is one of the worst in American Presidential history.

Obama's handling of the economy: The U.S. is mired in the midst of the worst recovery since the Great Depression: 43 straight months of unemployment over 8%. The unemployment rate when Barack Obama took office was 7.8% and today it is 8.1%. Worse, the labor force is shrinking to record lows. People are giving up looking for work.

In August the labor force participation rate fell to 63.5%, its lowest level since September 1981. For men, the August participation rate in the labor force was 69.8%. That's the lowest ever on record. Furthermore, half of all recent college graduates are underemployed or unemployed.

Since Obama took office, median household income has declined more than $4,000. More people are on food stamps than ever before -- 46.7 million. The poverty rate is around 15%, the highest since 1993. The average retail price of gasoline has more than doubled under Obama, rising from $1.84 per gallon to more than $3.80 per gallon. In spite of this, he stopped the approval of the Keystone pipeline for further review.

Obama inherited a bad economy, but his policies have made it even worse. The $800 billion stimulus (steal-from-us) package failed, according to the standards promised by an Obama administration economist. With Democrats in control of Congress, Obama then spent the first two years of his political capital on health care reform. Subsequently, the nation, mired in a debt crisis, underwent its first-ever credit downgrade. With our national debt exceeding $16 trillion, he has offered no credible plan for the nation's long term fiscal health. Our country is hurtling toward a fiscal cliff in January 2013.

Obama ascended to the presidency promising a new era of American foreign policy. Apart from the killing of Osama bin Laden, the death of Moammar Gaddafi and and the successful expansion of drone strikes, the foreign policy record of this administration has largely been one of capitulation, indecision and weakness.

In the first true foreign policy test of his presidency, Obama failed to back the pro-democracy Green Revolution in Iran, saying he didn't want to "be seen as meddling." The uprising was crushed.

So why in the hell would anyone back this clown, other than the aforementioned reasons I've stated above.

PowerGeneration,

There is a difference between a Moocher and someone who has rightfully earned their pay. I'm sorry you feel that I classified you a moocher. I should have chosen my words more carefully. My assumption is people who know they have earned what they get, veterans, retirees that paid into the system and people with real disabilities, et al., automatically exclude themselves from the classification. Just like when Liberals make a blanket statement that anyone not voting for Obama is a racist. I know that doesn't describe me, I have more than enough valid reasons not to vote for him. I truly appreciate you and other veterans that sacrificed so much for our country. Veterans deserve the very best of care the country can provide. I just don't understand how, in America, you can support a President who believes in Socialism. It goes against everything Americans such as yourself have fought for in this great country. It is an Un-American value and can only lead to losing more freedoms you and others have fought and died for. Please accept my sincere apology for hurting your feelings and may God bless you.

[DiveDeepSix]

I whole-heartedly agree with you Dive, right down to the MENTAL statement. Guess I am being a bit judgemental but Simple is right, nobody's perfect...

ROFL @ nobody's perfect!! I love your sense of humor my friend!

Ahhh Simple, you're right. I should have been more careful not to classify all Democrats as the Moocher class. I should have clarified that while not all Democrats are Moochers, the majority of Moochers are Democrats and not all Democrats are Communist/Socialist/Marxist, but pretty much all Communist/Socialist/Marxist are Democrats.

As for the rest of ya, my guess would be, you're un-patriotic and/or you just hate America and the Constitution as much as Obama and his wife do, as do Communist/Marxist/Socialist. Or you're too ignorant to see through Obama's onslaught of bullshet. Cause his record on just about everything is one of the worst in American Presidential history.

Obama's handling of the economy: The U.S. is mired in the midst of the worst recovery since the Great Depression: 43 straight months of unemployment over 8%. The unemployment rate when Barack Obama took office was 7.8% and today it is 8.1%. Worse, the labor force is shrinking to record lows. People are giving up looking for work.

In August the labor force participation rate fell to 63.5%, its lowest level since September 1981. For men, the August participation rate in the labor force was 69.8%. That's the lowest ever on record. Furthermore, half of all recent college graduates are underemployed or unemployed.

Since Obama took office, median household income has declined more than $4,000. More people are on food stamps than ever before -- 46.7 million. The poverty rate is around 15%, the highest since 1993. The average retail price of gasoline has more than doubled under Obama, rising from $1.84 per gallon to more than $3.80 per gallon. In spite of this, he stopped the approval of the Keystone pipeline for further review.

Obama inherited a bad economy, but his policies have made it even worse. The $800 billion stimulus (steal-from-us) package failed, according to the standards promised by an Obama administration economist. With Democrats in control of Congress, Obama then spent the first two years of his political capital on health care reform. Subsequently, the nation, mired in a debt crisis, underwent its first-ever credit downgrade. With our national debt exceeding $16 trillion, he has offered no credible plan for the nation's long term fiscal health. Our country is hurtling toward a fiscal cliff in January 2013.

Obama ascended to the presidency promising a new era of American foreign policy. Apart from the killing of Osama bin Laden, the death of Moammar Gaddafi and and the successful expansion of drone strikes, the foreign policy record of this administration has largely been one of capitulation, indecision and weakness.

In the first true foreign policy test of his presidency, Obama failed to back the pro-democracy Green Revolution in Iran, saying he didn't want to "be seen as meddling." The uprising was crushed.

So why in the hell would anyone back this clown, other than the aforementioned reasons I've stated above.

PowerGeneration,

There is a difference between a Moocher and someone who has rightfully earned their pay. I'm sorry you feel that I classified you a moocher. I should have chosen my words more carefully. My assumption is people who know they have earned what they get, veterans, retirees that paid into the system and people with real disabilities, et al., automatically exclude themselves from the classification. Just like when Liberals make a blanket statement that anyone not voting for Obama is a racist. I know that doesn't describe me, I have more than enough valid reasons not to vote for him. I truly appreciate you and other veterans that sacrificed so much for our country. Veterans deserve the very best of care the country can provide. I just don't understand how, in America, you can support a President who believes in Socialism. It goes against everything Americans such as yourself have fought for in this great country. It is an Un-American value and can only lead to losing more freedoms you and others have fought and died for. Please accept my sincere apology for hurting your feelings and may God bless you.

Very well said couldn't agree more, some just refuse to even consider anything that is bad for O!

[jonjon]

I'm voting for Obama, and my income is in the top 5 percent in the country. Care to come up with a new argument?

This makes me realize that if the RV happens before Obama is out of office, we will be able to take advantage of the middle-class due to the economy being so crippled.

The very rich and the poor should be happy with Obama, the middle-class is the loser with his economy

[Snotrocket]

PowerGeneration,

There is a difference between a Moocher and someone who has rightfully earned their pay. I'm sorry you feel that I classified you a moocher. I should have chosen my words more carefully. My assumption is people who know they have earned what they get, veterans, retirees that paid into the system and people with real disabilities, et al., automatically exclude themselves from the classification. Just like when Liberals make a blanket statement that anyone not voting for Obama is a racist. I know that doesn't describe me, I have more than enough valid reasons not to vote for him. I truly appreciate you and other veterans that sacrificed so much for our country. Veterans deserve the very best of care the country can provide. I just don't understand how, in America, you can support a President who believes in Socialism. It goes against everything Americans such as yourself have fought for in this great country. It is an Un-American value and can only lead to losing more freedoms you and others have fought and died for. Please accept my sincere apology for hurting your feelings and may God bless you.

@ PowerGeneration.....

Please accept my sincere appreciation for your service and let me assure you that NO ONE considers you a moocher. As DinarMillionaire said, we have no issue with those that have paid into the system and shame on anyone who has told you or made you feel like you are part of the problem. It is those that would take what they have not earned from those that have earned it that we take issue with. That does not describe you. This describes you....

What Is a Veteran?

A "Veteran" -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America"' for an amount of "up to, and including his life."

You have paid in full....and our gratitude is never-ending. Thank you again.

[stonewall67]

I don't believe they are unpatriotic. I believe that they just have a different idea of how America should be run. I know this will get me dog cursed but I don't think Obama is unpatriotic. I think he just has a different idea of what works. I do believe he is wrong and that his ideas are bad for our country but unpatriotic? Unpatriotic to me is someone who wants their country to fail and I don't believe that is the case with most liberals or even with Obama.

[simple]

I don't believe they are unpatriotic. I believe that they just have a different idea of how America should be run. I know this will get me dog cursed but I don't think Obama is unpatriotic. I think he just has a different idea of what works. I do believe he is wrong and that his ideas are bad for our country but unpatriotic? Unpatriotic to me is someone who wants their country to fail and I don't believe that is the case with most liberals or even with Obama.

Every now and then you shock the blanktyblank out of me!!!

[DinarMillionaire]

I don't believe they are unpatriotic. I believe that they just have a different idea of how America should be run. I know this will get me dog cursed but I don't think Obama is unpatriotic. I think he just has a different idea of what works. I do believe he is wrong and that his ideas are bad for our country but unpatriotic? Unpatriotic to me is someone who wants their country to fail and I don't believe that is the case with most liberals or even with Obama.

To truly know who's un-patriotic, let's look at the definition...

un-patriotic. not proud of your country, or involved in something that harms your country.

The Obama's to me have shown NO pride in America. Remember Michelle's statement... "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country..." She's only proud if her husband can be President.

Barack wouldn't wear an American lapel pin during his first campaign. And he certainly shows how unproud he is when he runs around the world, apologizing for America. I believe that alone, does harm to the country.

I hope stonewall, you can rethink your position.

[simple]

To truly know who's un-patriotic, let's look at the definition...

un-patriotic. not proud of your country, or involved in something that harms your country.

The Obama's to me have shown NO pride in America. Remember Michelle's statement... "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country..." She's only proud if her husband can be President.

Barack wouldn't wear an American lapel pin during his first campaign. And he certainly shows how unproud he is when he runs around the world, apologizing for America. I believe that alone, does harm to the country.

I hope stonewall, you can rethink your position.

Petty as usual, stripping the contexts and forming biased opinions are really weak. Repetitious and weak when there's much more the country should be concerned about. You can't suppose Romney is proud or even have confidence in the U.S., he doesn't keep the bulk of his wealth here. Not a recent practice.

All of your comments pull from the weak side of a situation. I believe in the right side, the opposite of yours.

[yota691]

All of your comments pull from the weak side of a situation. I believe in the right side, the opposite of yours.

Seems with your way of thinking you can slide down to Cuba, I'm sure they will take you with OPEN ARMS!!!

Edited October 22, 2012 by yota691

[moose 57]

This makes me realize that if the RV happens before Obama is out of office, we will be able to take advantage of the middle-class due to the economy being so crippled.

The very rich and the poor should be happy with Obama, the middle-class is the loser with his economy

Sucks to b me? F the rich!!!

[DinarMillionaire]

Petty as usual, stripping the contexts and forming biased opinions are really weak. Repetitious and weak when there's much more the country should be concerned about. You can't suppose Romney is proud or even have confidence in the U.S., he doesn't keep the bulk of his wealth here. Not a recent practice.

All of your comments pull from the weak side of a situation. I believe in the right side, the opposite of yours.

If ignorance paid dividends, you could make a fortune from what you post.

The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: Be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge.

[simple]

If ignorance paid dividends, you could make a fortune from what you post.

The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: Be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge.

Are you resorting to personal attacks? You have a Confederate troglodyte mentality... In my companies (paying 100's of thousands in taxes), my instructions to my management teams - terminate anyone who cannot adapt to change. We would not waste our time with endless complaining without a resolution. The future insists on adaptation, you would not survive in our management system with backwood excuses and endless complaints. Betting on your Dinar maybe your last bet but don't hold your breath.

[stonewall67]

Sucks to b me? F the rich!!!

Jealousy is unbecoming! Bet you hated cheerleaders, football players, honor students etc.. When you was in high school... Success should be celebrated and not demonized!!!

[sportfisher]

I'm voting for Obama, and my income is in the top 5 percent in the country. Care to come up with a new argument?

maybe you got corrupt Obama dispersements for green energy? maybe you are not being truthful?

Really, supporting obama is un-American!

[detroitjazzman]

I agree with you, and I don't have any issues with everyones rights, nor do I have any feelings that someone has more or less rights based on there party affiliation. I have actually had it with the 2 party system, it does not work for the good of the people. I do feel that the democratic party has been hijacked, let's just say that JFK is probably rolling in his grave. The great Democratic party is definately what it once was. I don't recall any "name calling" in my post that you replied to, do you? What is your point? Are you expressing some blind loyalty here defending our illegal President foreign agent of destruction? What is the root of this blind loyalty? Color? Sexual preference? You muslim? If you can share the cause of this loyalty, I can understand your angle better.

simple, you are wasting precious oxygen.

I guess...... based on your assertions......Im wasting my precious oxygen. Never did I believe that I have to explaine why I vote the way I do. Based on the tenants of our constitution "one man .... one vote" no explaination required. and the name calling you reference.... I just indicated that one dosent have to resort to castigation when someone dosent agree with you. The title of your post suggest, those that support obama are unpatriotic.... Right?

[cris]

Are you resorting to personal attacks? You have a Confederate troglodyte mentality... In my companies (paying 100's of thousands in taxes), my instructions to my management teams - terminate anyone who cannot adapt to change. We would not waste our time with endless complaining without a resolution. The future insists on adaptation, you would not survive in our management system with backwood excuses and endless complaints. Betting on your Dinar maybe your last bet but don't hold your breath.

Ooooo, 'terminate anyone'....your a tough boss, sounds like you have the

attitude of which you accuse Romney.

With that kind of language, and the type you've used in the past, it seems highly

unlikely that you're the owner of a company, with or without management teams....

Perhaps you'd like to tell us the names of these supposed businesses and their

function?

[yota691]

Ooooo, 'terminate anyone'....your a tough boss, sounds like you have the

attitude of which you accuse Romney.

With that kind of language, and the type you've used in the past, it seems highly

unlikely that you're the owner of a company, with or without management teams....

Perhaps you'd like to tell us the names of these supposed businesses and their

function?

you won't get answers just as he/she has avoid to answer the question about living in the USA!!! I say it just a feel good Statement!!

[detroitjazzman]

Ooooo, 'terminate anyone'....your a tough boss, sounds like you have the

attitude of which you accuse Romney.

With that kind of language, and the type you've used in the past, it seems highly

unlikely that you're the owner of a company, with or without management teams....

Perhaps you'd like to tell us the names of these supposed businesses and their

function?

bet your unemployement insurance premiums are going up.

[sportfisher]

I guess...... based on your assertions......Im wasting my precious oxygen. Never did I believe that I have to explaine why I vote the way I do. Based on the tenants of our constitution "one man .... one vote" no explaination required. and the name calling you reference.... I just indicated that one dosent have to resort to castigation when someone dosent agree with you. The title of your post suggest, those that support obama are unpatriotic.... Right?

The oxygen is being wasted by"simple", not you, that is a foreigner on here that just stirs crap up.

I did not start this thread, but is my opinion that anyone that continues to support obama, ignores all the he has done, and is unpatriotic, not caring about the damage to this great nation. I will go as far as to consider them un-American.

If you indeed support obama and all that he has done and is doing, then you probably need to really look at what he is doing without any "blind loyalty", if you fought for this Country before, I'm telling you that you need to fight for it now.

We need to preserve the Constitution and this Nation the way it was founded, the folks that think we need all this change should go start another country somewhere else.

also, anyone that has studied the history of the Democratic party knows that the party has been totally hijacked.

[simple]

Ooooo, 'terminate anyone'....your a tough boss, sounds like you have the

attitude of which you accuse Romney.

With that kind of language, and the type you've used in the past, it seems highly

unlikely that you're the owner of a company, with or without management teams....

Perhaps you'd like to tell us the names of these supposed businesses and their

function?

Cris, those answers would expose my identity. I prefer to keep that information private just as 99% of DV. I saw your claim to business owner, but no company name listed. I respected that!

Perhaps funny but I admire Romney as a businessman; I never claimed to dislike him. I admire his accomplishments, his tough nature (to a degree) and I understand his failures. I would not want to work for a man of his type; perhaps because of some similarities and because he appears conniving. I didn't liquidate companies, I built them from the ground up. My businesses were U.S. companies with international sales as well. It required the abilities to adapt using company processes and policies.

Yota, that's a rhetorical question and do not need a reply.

[cris]

Cris, those answers would expose my identity. I prefer to keep that information private just as 99% of DV. I saw your claim to business owner, but no company name listed. I respected that!

Perhaps funny but I admire Romney as a businessman; I never claimed to dislike him. I admire his accomplishments, his tough nature (to a degree) and I understand his failures. I would not want to work for a man of his type; perhaps because of some similarities and because he appears conniving. I didn't liquidate companies, I built them from the ground up. My businesses were U.S. companies with international sales as well. It required the abilities to adapt using company processes and policies.

Yota, that's a rhetorical question and do not need a reply.

Thats actually a respectable answer.....Conniving is a strong word though,

I guess making a profit in business is now considered underhanded, unless

your an inoculated from criticism Lib business.

I've outlined what I do.....So have others....So, it seems you could give us all

a brief summary of your ventures.

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

Mmmm hmmmm, yeah but food stamps don't count! Top 5% is your real name Biden?

No, but Obama does expect the blacks to vote for him just because he is BLACK, well 1/2 anyways, come on help a brother out! He told them to vote for him for that reason not us. Now if Romney would have said all whites should vote for me because I'm white, he would've been crucified as a racist and would've lost my support as well. Funny how you can't be a racist if you are 1/2 black, but anyone who disagrees with you is a racist. Your game Simple not ours!

***///

obummer is NOT black...

He's striped -- YELLOW & RED... Like every COWARD KOMMIE....!

Edited October 23, 2012 by SgtFuryUSCZ

[DinarMillionaire]

Thats actually a respectable answer.....Conniving is a strong word though,

I guess making a profit in business is now considered underhanded, unless

your an inoculated from criticism Lib business.

I've outlined what I do.....So have others....So, it seems you could give us all

a brief summary of your ventures.

Have you ever 'read between the lines’ of what someone said or wrote?

Using a technique known as Thoughtprint Decoding, which is a form of psycholinguistic profiling.

One could surmise that deep down a guilty person cannot stop looking at his misdeed, his lie. Simples unconscious constantly comprehends his guilt and he is incessantly moved to confess, subconsciously. Remember that the deeper mind speaks symbolically in a narrative language using key images. It is much like reading a parable.

Notice in the language he uses...

Perhaps funny but I admire Romney as a businessman; I never claimed to dislike him. I admire his accomplishments, his tough nature (to a degree) and I understand his failures. I would not want to work for a man of his type; perhaps because of some similarities and because he appears conniving . I didn't liquidate companies, I built them from the ground up. My businesses were U.S. companies with international sales as well. It required the abilities to adapt using company processes and policies.

All past tense words. As if no longer in business, as if they ever were. Reading between the lines, he's full of it.

[cris]

Have you ever 'read between the lines’ of what someone said or wrote?

Using a technique known as Thoughtprint Decoding, which is a form of psycholinguistic profiling.

One could surmise that deep down a guilty person cannot stop looking at his misdeed, his lie. Simples unconscious constantly comprehends his guilt and he is incessantly moved to confess, subconsciously. Remember that the deeper mind speaks symbolically in a narrative language using key images. It is much like reading a parable.

Notice in the language he uses...

All past tense words. As if no longer in business, as if they ever were. Reading between the lines, he's full of it.

Good catch...

Im getting that same impression DM

[jonjon]

I would be willing to bet, if Simple were in business for the past four years, he wouldn't be an Obama supporter. I bet he would hate the man for what he has done to our economy.