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I don't come to the forum often due to a busy life but I want to put my 2 cents in on this as I too always say thanks silently when I see Sandfly's Thank you because I know one of our heros is safe and hopefully will soon be able to return to his family and be able to enjoy a family life. We are all in this waiting game together, we all have lives outside this forum but knowing our little community is safe means a lot, far more than forum etiquette in my mind. So my thanks to all of you

Francis I read your post and I understand your feeling. I bought my dinar at first with disbelief anything could happen but then thought what if it did and I have spent a lot more money than I spent on Dinar over the years on things that didn't have the potential to increase. I know several people that got in about the same time I did have sold out, but I hang on to my small holdings, because I believe at some point it will be worthwhile to have done so, be it that it increases in value or that our dollar so decreases that having dinar is better than having dollars. I dreamed of bigger and better things at first and of it bringing an end to my high mortgage on a home I can not sell, to help get rid of my debt etc. While I have waited however I have slowly worked my way out of debt, still have the house unfortunately but I am also making plans to change that scenario even at a loss as I move to a smaller and much more simple life. Now if the dinar RV's the fact is it won't change my plan, it may just make a few things easier, but I have moved beyond the dream of the dinar to making a new life that has less stuff but much more of what really matters. I sometimes think that having the dinar was the inspiration to think outside the box and stand up when others say things are impossible Hang in there Francis and continue to dream because dreams do come true.

I found that very interesting. There is something to numerology, I have a book sitting on my desk right now I found in some old books I was going thru to donate to charity,I have had for some 20 years called the Life You were Born To Live by Dan Millman and he uses numerology to help you see the strengths and weaknesses of your birth destiny, and it is quite accurate on mine, so it can be another tool for understanding ourselves and our planet. What interests me the most is this is a powerful woman speaking to a group of powerful people, speaking about something that most people ridicule and that in and of itself says to me to pay attention. I guess we shall see how this month goes. But it doesn't necessarily mean she is talking about the IQD RV either...it may be something else altogether that they have planned...definitely worth watching out for.

Thanks for speaking out about what many of us are thinking. I don't keep up with the daily IQD rumor mill anymore as my life is busy enough with living and trying to create a peaceful simple life, but do see the headlines and feel this is a lot of manipulation so will see how it falls into place when the smoke clears. My dinar is not going anywhere as I do believe there will come a time when it will be worth more, either based on its actual rise in value or our dollars loss in value or as the Phoenix post I read before this one says a bit of both. Besides I trust the "dream" I had telling me to get into it and the "inspiration" I had that kept me in when I might have let go, but know that it is real just a matter of time and allowing what is necessary to be made manifest. Today I was just wondering if others were still feeling as strong about this as I and was glad to see it Thanks

I haven't been to the forum in quite awhile as I have been being pulled to downsize and simplify my life and try to really be aware of what life is really about. I too run up and down the highways looking out my semis window, so have much time to contemplate the whispers I receive or the inner stirrings that lead me to where I need to be in my life. I have no doubt there will be a raise in value of the IQD, when I don't know as I know it is nothing I have control of, however at the same time I have been being lead to become a better money manager, more frugal and in need of less stuff in my life, which is the opposite direction one thinks of when you think of having a large sum of money coming. BUT I do think that this money is not about my personal buying sprees at all, it is going to be given as stewardship to do what I will be instructed to do with it when the time comes. Sometimes I find myself quite amazed by this realization as it wasn't even a thought when I first bought my IQD but if we open our hearts and minds so we can hear divine guidance it comes and so does whatever we need, to do the work we are guided to do. I too think this moon eclipse last night as a sign, however I am not a prophetess so can only wait and see what it will lead to and be alert. Thanks everyone for this interesting thread I very much enjoyed reading it while I had the time to sit waiting to be on down the road again.

Thanks for sharing your dreams it always is interesting to me as I believe in the power of certain dreams to give us messages of things we need to know. Of course a lot of dreaming is just silly everyday stuff, but the really important dreams stand out.

I am sorry for your loss Luigi may you and your family find comfort in wonderful memories of her God bless you and help you thru this time

Thanks for sharing Expat. It sounds like the man may have been on target but one never knows. I have had readings over the years and don't buy into a lot of psychics since most are not...however had two experiences where I know that they were very accurate and neither were paid readings...one was in my 20's a girl I worked with from India who did a palm reading and she told me things that did in fact happen and told me in my later years I would be very wealthy...so who knows hope she is right on that...though I hate to wait til you turn 90 LOL as I am older than you are.

I have leaned towards March just from some things I have gathered but this thread is very interesting. Also wasn't Kuwait also revalued in the month of March?

Thanks for updates Betty. I am still going with your crystals original call of March...though I would love to see this done now like everyone else! Take care and thanks again for your fun posts!

Uneek I too want to put my voice in that you continue on, but you may also want to step away a bit. I know myself I try to just live life and visit here on occasion or as of late the news is positive and I am hopeful of a spring surprise for all of us so have been visiting more, but I don't put a lot of faith in supposed gururs and Wife in the Know is in that catagory now being that she is no more correct than others...but this is the rumor section and a good place for her postings to go as some piece of truth may lay in them for all of us to glean. I know I recently read another rumor brought over by someone else that a lot of people negged but there was an important piece that fit something I had been seeing, so it gave me a positive boost. You never know those of us who sit on the sidelines and don't post much are watching and reading and appreciating posters willingness to bring information over. Thanks again Uneek for your positive attitude and willingness to share. Thanks to all the members who share thier thoughts

I drive truck for a living and have over the 15 or so years I have been driving found that when I least expect it but am just cruising down the highway with my mind open and being in the moment I will suddenly get the answer to a question or sitiuation that I have been troubled about. Well for the first time I had that kind of thing happen in regards the dinar. There is nothing to prove it is true or real, but in that moment it made perfect sense to me and will share what I "saw". I am neither a financial wizard or knowledgable in economics, just an ordinary working person who is hoping like the rest to retire and have time to enjoy grandbabies and an easier life The first Tier (I have never ever agreed with Gurus on tiers but then this kind of proved to me that they indeed have some facts in their rumors if not in the same line of thought as this is) is a lower RV and acceptance into the world as a tradable currency. This works this way as first in Iraq the people will NOT be cashing in thier dinar for dollars but will in fact begin buying things they need and want. Why is this good to let all the people in IRaq suddenly find some wealth, because they will spend it which in turn creates jobs, brings investors and increases the wealth of the country. The timing is very important for this to work properly as Iraq must be seen worldwide as a new boomtown in the making. Outside of Iraq all of the dinar holders like myself who have been eagerly awaiting the cashin process will in fact begin to cash in.( Now I have wondered if it was too good to be true and the those who said Iraq could never handle an RV of all this money but this showed me how in fact it was going to happen). The CBI has a buy sell spread, any money is never exchanged at face value, our banks will also have a buy sell spread on top of that and some may even charge a fee, just as dealers will charge a fee and use the CBI buy sell rate...thus all making money. We take our dinar in and exchange it for cash, we then go out and spend and create more jobs etc increasing banks income, corporations income and government income. The banks/dealers now have dinar...these bills will not go directly back to CBI...they will be resold to those who have previously not invested because now it is a tradable currrency as well as the news will be reporting a boom to the country economically. Just as gold was once $700+ an ounce and people bought knowing it was probably going higher, so will be the dinar. Some may go back to CBI but much smaller amounts and easier to handle. Also in this time frame many of the actual large bills coming into the CBI will be destroyed as they will have become electronic in nature on balance sheets. When the timing is right comes tier two, this will be a raise to the next step where Iraqis will again be blessed with more cash flow, able to buy more goods and create more of a boom. There will be instant millionaires from these raises in Iraq just as there was instant poverty when the devaluation happened. At this tier the investors with short term goals will sell dinar. Mind you the banks and exchanges are making money on both the buy and sell. Thier dinar will be bought up by the banking system, large corporations and governments as the new reserve currency in the world. The third tier is when Iraq has become the economic world leader and the value at that time is the highest of any money in the world. (after seeing this all I was drivng down the road a bit amazed at the strategy of the plans and off to my left I passed a cute farm with a sign on the fence boldly stating "God Did It" and I took that as a sign it also reminded me of what I had heard on the radio a couple years ago about the prophesy in revelation of the rise of Babylon) As I said this has no fact attached and nothing to say it is what shall end up happening. But felt I should share. And no I am not pumping sales, I bought all mine a couple years ago and am not buying more myself because of this "insight" as I have enough to be comfortable, but I will keep the strategy plan in mind as I decide what to cash in.

That is a wonderful story of Faith thanks for sharing

This has been an exciting post and I have checked back several times today myself but I think IF he agreed not to say anything after his lunch then coming on and saying that might lead to more questions etc. so perhaps he is staying away so as not to say something he might regret. I read his original post as very sincere so I don't think it was a stunt or pump, I truly think he was excited about the news and wanted to share with us all. I truly think we are close to the end of this ride and like to think Betty's Crystal has a feel for the pulse of what is going to happen

With all the other changes I wouldn't be surprised to see the presidents term limits changed too before the next election.

Betty thanks for sharing about your crystal. I have not kept up with the forums much of late with life being so busy, but today had a few minutes to read and see how the investment was going...and hoping something was afoot. Anyways I am with your crystal for March as I keep getting a date in March, showing up over and over again in all kinds of things. I also concur not to wear it out asking the same questions. Your post was very encouraging, so thanks for sharing and I do hope you will begin feeling better soon.

I agree we are in a world turmoil over greed, but keeping some dinars after the rv isn't necessarily greedy, it could be a wise investment. Greed is based on fear and if one is so afraid of having their money gone they are working from greed. The fact is very simple there is nothing in this world that is something we can rely on, gold can be stolen, money can devalue, land can be taken, stockmarkets crash, even our life in a moment can be over...the only thing in life that can be relied on with 100% certainty is God and his love for us, and our faith in him will see us thru whatever turmoil we have in our lives. I am not a religious person as in going to church every week but my faith is very strong and I believe this is part of the prophesies of the end times we are seeing fulfilled, so Iraq will indeed arise and become a world power to fulfill that prophesy, but then the rest of the story isn't so happy for the region nor those who put faith in supeficial things...so everything we do must be in moderation without so much belief in it being something to SAVE us, it won't only God can do that. This is JMO

I have a Wells Fargo account and twice over the last 6 months have talked to their customer service foreign currency people via their customer service 800 number and the first was not encouraging at all as she felt that the IQD would not become tradable for a long time if ever so nothing she needed to worry about, some months later when I called the second time, the girl was very upbeat and said at this time no they would not handle it but when/if it did become a recognized tradable currency I could exchange it for a flat $15 fee and a spread to be determined at the time, however there would be a hold on the money for at least 24 hours due to the fact they would have to send it out to be verified at most branches....but then I think they hold a lot of deposits for 24 hours so that is not that unusual. I just figure when it RV's they like every other bank will be begging for the opportunity to have that money in their bank

I listened to that call and from what I heard nothing was offered for sale, the one they called Rudy did mention some seminars in Florida, no dates or prices were given and it was very lowkey just a response to someones question I believe.....he did indeed talk about how he was going to make millions doing the short and long and basically he knew how and by the way he said it was that most of us were not knowledable enough to and would just cash in but oh well that is just his opinion This is about being wise and watchful and not believing everything you hear or trusting everyone who has info to share , but being open to hearing just about everything... however I will preface that with in my case there is one guru group I can't stomach and I won't listen to what they say etc. because it is a waste of my time. So someone else may feel the saem about this speaker and that is fine too. Part of why we all love AMERICA is the freedom to express ourselves and the freedom to choose what we want to hear

Thanks for the great boots on the ground work! Let me tell you reading some of the posts my heart goes out to those of you over there away from your homes and family. I was just wondering something...recently Ali of dinartrade was on two CC and I listened to his part on both, and isn't the TBI the bank he said he uses and his contact there would contact him immediately upon RV? Seems like it was, don't know if they were recorded but probably were so could be verified. Also he seemed to indicate much the same thing that it would raise up to whatever value they have that they want it to be at over time and I have heard him say LOP is being misunderstood because of the translation. So this all fits again. Thanks again and sorry you had to take one for the team, but we really really appreciate the effort for the cause

Vern Thanks that was very good and especially your kudos to your wise friend...amen to that For me I live in a rural community and yes if I suddenly went lavish everyone here would be buzzing, but I have kept this quiet for the most part, a few friends know who I told about dinar awhile back and they thought I was on some scam. When it RV's I will pay off my house and debts and quit work but then I am close enough to retirement age that it isn't too suspicious. I will do some much needed repairs on the house, but truthfully I don't expect it will cause any great commotion because everyone will think I just refinanced to do it so I can sell it and move closer to family. I am looking at a couple properties that I really like and figure I can move when I am sure I have found right onet but those are not lavish, nor would moving there create any big red flag to anyone I know, so basically my life would be much the same...oh maybe a new pickup but I still really like my 10 year old paid for one so may not LOL And as far as giving, there are a lot of people I would very much like to help out but it will have to be done so they won't know who did it AM hoping their Christmas will be wonderful because of an RV!!!!! I'm not going to let this blessing create a life of living in fear...but then I have spent the last 13 years doing a job that is considered very dangerous and going into places that I've been told I could be murdered or robbed or worse, and I don't let that cause fear in my life either...sitting here listening to the thunder roll though I am a little fearful of tornados...LOL!!!!!!

Thanks Marcus, all I can say what you brought here is AWESOME!!! Thanks so much. And the stuff about Bilderbergs I am about to go investigate because a co-worker was telling me to check out Maurice Strong because he is behind this world money stuff (the co-worker isn't into dinar, just talking economy) and I started doing research just last week on him, so your info helps me fit some pieces together in my mind!!! GREAT GREAT STUFF even if scarey lol

Floridian, I couldn't guess too many variables to play with but there is no way I can imagine them buying a beef calf for 250 dinars at the value they are today as an import.

Just a note on prices from a farm raised dinar holder. Right now here in the US a 500 lb calf will run about $1 per lb live weight so $500..that is not butcher weight and the price per pound will go down some the bigger it is.. Now breeding stock is a whole different ballgame, you can get auction cows which are cheaper figure $1200, but I know a purebred Angus breeder who pays 10,000-100,000 for breeding stock so it can be figured higher by a LOT depending on the bloodlines etc. As far as sheep, I know we used to pay $125 per lamb for my sons 4-H lambs but that was really inflated from what the average market lamb was bringing at the time, but then we are talking 20 years ago too So yes unless they can buy super cheap stock, which I hardly think being they have to be shipped in etc. that they would be that cheap this poster is correct to think this is a good indication an RV is in the works So thanks for bringing this to us! Go RV!!!!

Thanks for all the input. I have talked to a WF cust. service rep on foreign currency and she said much the same thing though she said some small branches may have to send the dinar out to be verified in which case there would be a hold put on it. As I have WF account for years, I have kept it even though I am no longer in a state that has WF banks, so it will mean travel time for me. However I have a question? Since Ali is setting up sites which require a De La Rue machine thereby meaning he has to bring one into those sites and somewhere I heard they are pretty portable machines I was wondering if you spoke to a bank manager at RV and explained what you wanted to do if they could bring one to the bank and set it up (of course for a fee no doubt) so that you could have it posted instantly? I think for enough of a deposit they might be willing to do that...don't know and don't know how much trouble that would be either but just a thought.