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  1. My buddy, who purchased dinar as a result of my recommendation, just gave me a call and left a message. His sister-in-law works at Bank of America (BOA) in Florida, he was talking to his brother trying to get him to purchase dinar. His sister-in-law told him it wasn't a rumor, because her BOA branch had received an email from corporate stating they had to prepare for the dinar cash in!!! I trust my friend, we served in the military together, even got bombed at Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia back in '96. I trust my life to this man. No dates or rates were given, and no link either, so placing in the rumor section. BE WELL MY FRIENDS!!! GOOOOO RRRRVVVVVV!!!!!
    40 points
  2. Dude, take a chill pill and watch your language!! FYI: Scooter is one of the best analysts that is on any of these sites!! You might want to do some research before running your mouth about who people are!! Who are you and why should we care!! Oops WE DON'T!!!
    16 points
  3. Med says to (00:23:46): The Governor of Central Bank: Shabibi Says Raise the Value of the Dinar Stressing that the bank had several measures including raising the dinar exchange rate. He pointed out that the impact of this action on the budget through the impact on the purchasing power of government, will increase by addressing inflation. this policy will increase the confidence in dinars this action will lead to a reduction in prices of import goods such as private sector imports and the import of the government’s development that comes from converting the Iraqi dinar to the dollar. He pointed out that the bank wants and means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar valuable and powerful. TCAZ says to (00:25:44): nice Med says to (00:25:53): MORE THAN NICE THIS IS THE MOST TELLING ARTICLE THAT SHABIBI HAS EVER PUT OUT ON THE DINAR Cool says to (00:26:14): telling us its going to rv Mountainman says to (00:26:14): We gots us some “powerful” money…. lol Med says to (00:26:21): YES AND HE DOES NOT SAY REMOVING ZERO’S HE STATES INCREASONG THE RATE OF EXCHANGE HE STATES WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT INCREASING PURCHASING POWER FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE GOVERNMENT AND HE ALSO AS ASTRO….MM17 AND MYSELF SAID TODAY THAT IT IS TIED MOST LIKELY TO THE PASSING OF THE BUDGET WHICH IS WHEN???? ANYONE Cool says to (00:28:25): tomorrow Med says to (00:28:30): NOPE TODAY IT IS TOMORROW IN IRAQ LOL THE DINAR ACCORDING TO THIS APPEARS TO BE REVALUING BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH BY EOY 2010 OR AS SOON AS THIS WEEK THERE YOU HAVE IT YOU HAVE YOUR REVALUATION OF THE DINAR….. AND THAT IS NOT FROM SOME ECONOMIST WITH AN OPINION IT IS FROM THE GOVERNOR OF THE CENTRAL BANK AND DOES HE SAY THEY WILL DISCUSS IT OR THAT THEY NEED MORE TIME NO
    15 points
  4. This is your brother's cousin, but not your cousin? Is your family tree a straight line? Or are you from Arkansas?
    13 points
  5. Oh man......again it has RV'd?? Sheesh....he must have cashed out like 10 times already!! Okie must have more money than Trump by now!!!
    12 points
  6. Yea, there's Mr Negative again jumping into someones personal intel and trying to make everyone believe it is not true. Well all I can say is Keepm is the reason most of us have left this site because he makes dumba$$ comments (all negative by the way) that he knows nothing about.
    11 points
  7. Here's a not-so-interesting response to you: Use the apostrophe for contractions. "It's" = it is. "Here's" = Here is. You asked for it.
    11 points
  8. 8:07 AM [sonny1] holy mods 8:07 AM [patriotic party girl] Scooby Doo yw i was hanging on your everyword haha i was even gonna go make a purchase haha 8:07 AM [sunglass] sonny1 8:07 AM [bumper64] sonny1 8:07 AM [kcw] sonny1 8:07 AM [sonny1] 40 has nothing to do with the rv 8:07 AM [patriotic party girl] sonny1 gm 8:07 AM [Scooby Doo] sonny1 Silence! Topic: Article 40 has nothing to do with RV per Sonny1 8:07 AM [Scooby Doo] the guru speaks 8:08 AM [Scooby Doo] 8:08 AM [patriotic party girl] Scooby Doo Scooby Doo soory oh great one 8:08 AM [sonny1] happy b-day bump you are old my friend, how was the last supper. 8:08 AM [sunglass] Scooby Doo it doesn't matter who "they" are 8:08 AM [Scooby Doo] just kidding 8:08 AM [Scooby Doo] don't kick me 8:08 AM [bubbie] sonny1 gm!! 8:08 AM [bumper64] sonny1 It was good my friend!! 8:08 AM [sonny1] Bumper64 did you bring out the good china 8:08 AM [sonny1] 8:08 AM [bumper64] sonny1 paper plates!!!! 8:09 AM [sonny1] 8:09 AM [RDP_62] sonny1 chinette 8:09 AM [patriotic party girl] Scooby Doo Scooby Doo wow great one the silence that you shouted out even got my attn haha 8:09 AM [sonny1] well were one more day closer to the rv Topic: [sonny1] well were one more day closer to the rv 8:10 AM [Scooby Doo] sonny1 I have a question if you're up to it 8:10 AM [sonny1] there are some shabbs articles out there saying rv for budget, it has been brought to my attention that those articles are old 8:10 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo sure for you anything 8:10 AM [Scooby Doo] thx 8:11 AM [sunglass] wow Scooby Doo, long question..... 8:11 AM [sonny1] geez rich, you gonna make me work 8:11 AM [Scooby Doo] somebody was telling me that Iraq would lose a lot of money if they RV below $3 .... I said they're going to lose money regardless of the rate, but I figure a lower RV around $1 would allow them to manage the float and make a killing off it .... is that your theory too? 8:12 AM [sunglass] good question Scooby Doo 8:12 AM [Scooby Doo] thx 8:12 AM [Scooby Doo] I try 8:12 AM [bumper64] Scooby Doo good job!! 8:12 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo you nailed it my friend, it would actualy be bad (inflation) if they come out to high, its simple world economics, and some dont get it, but they will kill it at around 1.00 8:13 AM [sonny1] you guys, you guys, article 40 has nothing to do with instant rv 8:13 AM [patriotic party girl] sonny1 sonny1 how slose do u think we really or to rv eoy or first oy 8:14 AM [sonny1] it was made up by okie-tk 8:14 AM [Scooby Doo] so they bring in a ton of 000s around $1 and then bump it up to $2 and bring in most of the rest while selling more to speculators 8:14 AM [sonny1] patriotic party girl real soon, maybe with-in a few days, imo 8:14 AM [patriotic party girl] sonny1 do u think the budget and hcl have to be done first 8:15 AM [Jaynpattie] sonny1 do you think it will rv low then go up ?? 8:15 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo what they will do is, rvaround 1.00 then get all our notes back , rv again to lets say 2.00 they make 1.00 off the dinar in your sock drawer, they make trillions 8:15 AM [Scooby Doo] I figure they could make over a trillion on the float which would cover the initial cost of the RV 8:15 AM [sonny1] patriotic party girl well im hearing they will get done in the next week so we will see 8:15 AM [Scooby Doo] wow sonny1 .... we're on the same wavelength here 8:15 AM [patriotic party girl] sonny1 ok thanks so much 8:16 AM [sonny1] Jaynpattie yes, its world economics 101 8:16 AM [Scooby Doo] so what's all this talk about contracts written at a $3.22 rate? 8:16 AM [Scooby Doo] all lies? 8:16 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo yes, ive been saying that for 3 years now. 8:16 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo bs 8:16 AM [sonny1] Mikecren cash-in before iraq starts a war with someone 8:17 AM [sonny1] 8:17 AM [Scooby Doo] sonny1 will you cash in everything at $1? 8:17 AM [elv780] Sonny1 I agree take the money and run/save/invest 8:17 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo if they give us a timeframe like kuwait did 8:17 AM [Scooby Doo] my next question 8:17 AM [Scooby Doo] how likely is a time frame? 8:18 AM [Scooby Doo] I hear so many conflicting reports 8:18 AM [sonny1] robo5288 you are right, but i have realy good friends that are economic professors, and they are very very smart, this is there job-life, they say 3+ would be catastrophic out of the gate, they need to transisition 8:18 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo likelyhood is very high 8:18 AM [Scooby Doo] ok thx 8:19 AM [sonny1] beancounter8 your right 8:20 AM [Jaynpattie] sonny1 ....SO what should we do cash in as soon as it rv's at any rate ?? 8:20 AM [Scooby Doo] sonny1 is that your opinion or do you have intel on a time frame? 8:20 AM [sonny1] Jaynpattie thats up to you. its not my decision 8:20 AM [Jaynpattie] beancounter8 ,,,,sonny1 ......OK THANKS 8:21 AM [robo5288] sonny1 Not disagreeing; but the time frame is a guessing game; no proof that it is happening today or a year from now. All conjecture. 8:21 AM [Lacey] sonny1 Just want to Thank You for all you do Its very much appreciated 8:21 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo intel is intel, and to be honest i dont think anyone realy knows the date, but my friends are saying to honestly get ready, have my plan-bank-financial guy etc 8:21 AM [sonny1] Lacey n/p 8:21 AM [Scooby Doo] wow ... hope your friends are right 8:22 AM [Scooby Doo] are these the friends with millions invested? 8:22 AM [patriotic party girl] sonny1 sonny1 i agree nobody does know all we can do is be ready with our plans 8:22 AM [sonny1] robo5288 i agree, i just have to take shabbs word he has been saying since march, rv when goi is complete, and before new year, well he has both 8:22 AM [Mikecren] SONNY1 would u tell me what ur plans are? 8:22 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo yes 8:22 AM [Scooby Doo] yowza!!! 8:23 AM [sonny1] Mikecren im getting up, after i $hitmyself, i will be going to wells fargo, they are ready for me and my groups 200mil in dinar 8:23 AM [sunglass] Mikecren everyone knows sonny1's plans! he's throwing computer in river and going around the world 8:23 AM [sonny1] Sunglass true 8:24 AM [sonny1] Mikecren just use your head and use logic, and dont be an idiot. 8:24 AM [Mikecren] sonny1 I appreciate our candor! 8:24 AM [Scooby Doo] sonny1 did you buy from WF? 8:24 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo no, chase, 5th3rd, and ali 8:25 AM [sonny1] but i had banks calling me, and i decided to go to wells fargo, thats why i know bank rumors are as good as a tk rumor, my banker told me he would call me if there is any change, and he looks every 2 hours 8:26 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo no, i bought from chase, 5th3rd, and ali 8:25 AM [sonny1] but i had banks calling me, and i decided to go to wells fargo, thats why i know bank rumors are as good as a tk rumor, my banker told me he would call me if there is any change, and he looks every 2 hours 8:26 AM [sonny1] Scooby Doo no, i bought from chase, 5th3rd, and ali 8:26 AM [Scooby Doo] ok 8:26 AM [mightywarrior] sonny1 calling for what? 8:27 AM [DidweRVyet] sonny1 Do you have any idea on the time frame we have to cash in when it does RV Thanks 8:27 AM [sonny1] i have talked to chase, 5th3rd, and pnc, but i was impressed with the guy at wells, he seemed to get what i wanted, so i committed 8:27 AM [robo5288] sonny1 I agree with you regarding bank info; have experienced that my self at a high level. They do not know anything. 8:27 AM [sonny1] mightywarrior to see if it hit, if i would go cash-in at there banks, it all started from the internet 8:28 AM [sonny1] DidweRVyet no-one knows yet, my guess would be 30-90 days 8:28 AM [mightywarrior] sonny1 ok thanks 8:28 AM [sonny1] robo5288 yes, the guy at wells i talk to said that no teller knows anything 8:28 AM [sonny1] Bumper64 n/s 8:29 AM [Jaynpattie] sonny1 ...just wondering ....will there be a set amount you can do per day or can it be done all at once?? 8:29 AM [dirtman_00] sonny1 I boughtfrom a little bank in Denham Springs Lousisana called Handcock / an thay are going to cash in for me when the time comes/ 8:29 AM [sonny1] the thing is, is that when this pops, everyone will kinda be in shock, so if your plan is set, you can get to the bar faster. 8:29 AM [sonny1] dirtman_00 i dont know, you should ask them 8:29 AM [kcw] sonny1 8:29 AM [bumper64] sonny1 8:29 AM [robo5288] sonny1 I Love This Bar 8:30 AM [sonny1] Jaynpattie at once 8:30 AM [dirtman_00] sonny1 Know I said thay were 8:30 AM [DidweRVyet] sonny1 I'm going to Norway for a short visit on the 26TH and coming back on Jan. 3rd 8:30 AM [Jaynpattie] sonny1 ...oh ok thanks 8:30 AM [sonny1] dirtman_00 sweet, then your day will be easy, make sure your the boss, try to get a few extra pennies out of them 8:31 AM [sonny1] DidweRVyet sweet, have fun 8:31 AM [sonny1] mightywarrior i did buy some from ali 8:31 AM [DidweRVyet] sonny1 just trying to avoid bringing my dinar with me 8:31 AM [sonny1] DidweRVyet if it hits, im sure you can catch a red eye home 8:31 AM [dirtman_00] sonny1 sonny1 That right/ Been with them for a long time/ 8:32 AM [DidweRVyet] sonny1 got ya 8:32 AM [mightywarrior] sonny1 I meant- sell to Ali? I'm sure his rate should be competitive... 8:33 AM [sonny1] the only advice i can give and this was given to me, is work your bank, your the millionaire, your the boss, they do what you want not the other way around, they will do what you tell them 8:33 AM [sonny1] mightywarrior lets say there is a problem, who do you reem 8:34 AM [sonny1] i told wells fargo guy that i was a major jerk, and if i dont like whats happening im walking 8:34 AM [sonny1] Niko hey 8:34 AM [Niko] hey sonny1 8:34 AM [stnkng1] well i was really hoping icfaith was gonna be right about today now that he is not i think he goes with Scooby Doo now and that feb uugghh 8:34 AM [sonny1] hornetsfan then they know you trust them, dont let them take advantage of you 8:35 AM [mightywarrior] sonny1 true. i do citibank /wachovia. the first one didn't know except for a phone call inquiring about the dinars last Friday. haven't talked to wachovia as of yet. 8:36 AM [sonny1] gotta pay the bills, be safe 8:36 AM [bumper64] sonny1 later!! 8:36 AM [kcw] sonny1 have a great day 8:36 AM [Niko] later sonny1
    10 points
  9. * The Governor of Central Bank: Shabibi Says Raise the Value of the Dinar December 21st, 2010 02:57 pm · Posted in NEWS December 19th, 2010 (Iraqi Media Network) Said Dr. Shabibi central bank governor that this year’s budget an investment budget because it focused on the size of the investment Ziada. Shabibi said that the role of the central bank is to address the imbalance that would result from the development process that will result from changes in economic structure are basic. He pointed out that the central bank is to achieve development in a stable monetary environment through attention to all means and policies to achieve economic stability and moderation in the environment and the normal rate of inflation moderate. He continued: our budget relating to the conservation of its resources, is done by combating inflation. Stressing that the bank had several measures including raising the dinar exchange rate. He pointed out that the impact of this action on the budget through the impact on the purchasing power of government, will increase by addressing inflation. Shabibi said: that this policy will increase the confidence in dinars, which will pull some of the money to the banking sector and the rationalization of government spending because of its impact on inflation. He indicated that this action will lead to a reduction in prices of import goods such as private sector imports and the import of the government’s development that comes from converting the Iraqi dinar to the dollar. He added that this policy at the time weakens the government’s ability to buy the dinar, it strengthens Aldenarabraghi which is owned by the government. He pointed out that the bank wants and means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar valuable and powerful. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.imnsr.com/Economy.aspx&ei=ljgRTbWZNsSBlAeWiJi3DA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.imnsr.com/Economy.aspx%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26prmd%3Divns
    10 points
  10. More B.S.Dosent look like you have been around long enough to have figured out who to believe This OKIE dude,TerryK.TiaC,Rev Dan,and others popping up daily all claim to have "Intel"These people know nothing!! Dont be fooled it is 100%B.S.In the short time that I have been invested NONE of these have been right EVER. THIS site has a lot of factual informative information.Read up and you will find that NOBODY knows when this will happen. ANY posting that claims otherwise is B.S.Educate yourself.
    10 points
  11. keepmwlknfny: I'm a newbie, in at the last moment. So I don't feel the full pain of all this wait. But I am living on Camp Liberty over here and have a beautiful little family back home and would love to go back earlier, retired and as a financial hero. But I can appreciate your cander and honesty. It's definately appreciated. To everyone who is freakin out, Look at your glass, It's half full. I am working side-by-side with people that are in the know of "this thing will happen" and some of them have been here making well over 100K on gov. contracts and to date don't have a single Dinar to their name. When this hits, and we all know it will, it's just a waiting game, your done. Your Retired, your biggest ***** is dodging as much tax as you can. It's christmas, and if your hanging on this computer most of your day "like I am" just keep watching. This place is about to explode with much more than an R/V. The industry here is going to be incredible. Everything is in place. You are going to be a millionaire. You are going to be out of any and all debt. I've never been there and gave uncle sam 10 tough yrs, been a Bounty Hunter for 9yrs, I've worked hard and taken a HELL of alot more chances to put food on the table. Folks, When this goes down, and it will, remember not to jump around so much. Some will be sitting back wondering why in hell they didn't put just a little toward this opportunity. Your IN. Love you all. Keep the faith
    9 points
  12. DUDE! Are you kidding me?? If you dont know, why dont you find out before you get so pissy?? Scooter is one of the best analysts in this crazy dinar investment. He is well respected all across the web in relation to the dinar. You are about to find out from the mulitple flames surely to be coming your way! Good luck making new friends
    9 points
  13. Ok peeps-- of course the funds will be electronic transfers into your accounts but the banks will still need extra cash- I gauantee many will want several thousand bucks for a myriad of reason celebrations- big tips- gifts-just drive off someplace- or go down and pay cash for a new car-- I could go on the point is -- most peeps only have a few $ on them-- because it reflects their bank accounts change that pitiful number- to something substantial and I bet you'll walk out with a couple grand in you pocket I know I will
    9 points
  14. My cousin just called me (4:10 CST 12/21/10) and told me that his brother in law just called him and told him that his cousin who works as an investment banker, and happens to be invetsted in dinar called him and told him, " ALL BANKS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED BY THE FED THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE AMPLE CASH ON HAND FOR MONDAY!!! I know you people don't know me from Adam (pun intended), but these people are real investors and very excited to share this info, so take it for what it is worth. PRAISE GOD!!! LORD SEND THE RAIN!!!
    8 points
  15. We've had a lot of activity over the last week......and I'm sure some of us have our heads spinning. Please take time out to relax, enjoy the holiday with your family. I believe we have a lot to look forward to when the new GOI starts working on the 26th....and if anything happens before, no one will complain. The family and I would like to wish everyone A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HERE'S TO A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. CHEERS
    8 points
  16. I'm sure this is posted, but it is worth reposting: =========================================== Iraqi Media Network Said Dr. Shabibi central bank governor that this year’s budget an investment budget because it focused on the size of the investment Ziada. Shabibi said that the role of the central bank is to address the imbalance that would result from the development process that will result from changes in economic structure are basic. He pointed out that the central bank is to achieve development in a stable monetary environment through attention to all means and policies to achieve economic stability and moderation in the environment and the normal rate of inflation moderate. He continued: our budget relating to the conservation of its resources, is done by combating inflation. Stressing that the bank had several measures including raising the dinar exchange rate. He pointed out that the impact of this action on the budget through the impact on the purchasing power of government, will increase by addressing inflation. Shabibi said: that this policy will increase the confidence in dinars, which will pull some of the money to the banking sector and the rationalization of government spending because of its impact on inflation. He indicated that this action will lead to a reduction in prices of import goods such as private sector imports and the import of the government’s development that comes from converting the Iraqi dinar to the dollar. He added that this policy at the time weakens the government’s ability to buy the dinar, it strengthens Aldenarabraghi which is owned by the government. He pointed out that the bank wants and means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar valuable and powerful. ALSO: The Exchange Rate of Foreign Currency in Economic Feasibility Studies Below are the central controls related to the exchange rate of the foreign currency to convert the project inputs and outputs from foreign currency to its equivalent in the local currency, and that is by calculating the net discounted present value standard and the internal return on investments in economic analysis that governs investment projects that costs excess one million dinars. Estimate the shadow price of foreign currency: 1. It is necessary to put central controls to amend the official exchange rate * to reflect the shadow price of the foreign currency, and that is considered one of the necessary requirements to implement the net discounted present value standard and the internal return rate on investment in the economic calculation stated in the instructions, paragraph nine. The central controls for adjusting market prices distinguished a group of outputs and inputs traded internationally, where the projects production or usage of them is reflected on the abundance of foreign currency in the economy and thus project outputs or inputs used of such are considered purely foreign currency outputs or inputs. * What is meant by exchange rate: the number of units of foreign currency, expressed in dollar per one dinar. In particular the following outputs and inputs of foreign currency were distinguished: · Export-outputs. · Outputs marketed locally that substitute imports. · Imported inputs. · Inputs produced locally that usually go to exports. · Foreign labor. According to the pricing rules the value of the output and input (traded) is calculated using export prices (FOB) and import prices (CIF), according to what is listed in the pricing rules. In other words the pricing rules calculate what the project produces from foreign currency (quantity of exports multiplied by the export price (FOB) in foreign currency or the quantity of substitute imports multiplied by the import price (CIF) in foreign currency, as well as what the project uses from foreign currency and imported inputs multiplied by the import price (CIF) in foreign currency .... etc.). In a later step, project outputs and inputs must be converted from the foreign currency to its equivalent in local currency (dinars) by using a specific exchange rate for the foreign currency. 2. Justifications for exchange-rate adjustment: there are a number of important and powerful arguments which support the view that the official exchange rate reduces the real value of foreign currency for purposes of calculating the economic national profitability for investment projects and hence for the purposes of investment planning. It is demonstrated in this context to call for assessing the dinar for less than (3.208) dollar (official exchange rate) when assessing project outputs and inputs of traded goods of exports, substitute imports and imports... etc. The justifications to call for the use of an exchange rate that is lower than the official exchange rate are: · The use of an exchange rate that is lower than the official rate is the appropriate action at the investment planning level to translate the country’s economic strategy aiming at stimulating central investments in the sectors that encourage the development of non-oil exports, as well as sectors that encourage the expansion of domestic production base in order to reduce imports and compensate it with local commodities. This helps to reduce reliance on foreign exchange earnings from crude oil exports and increases the share of non-oil sectors in the local production. · The application of the amended exchange rate on project imported inputs will assist in directing investments away from aggregated sectors dependent on imported inputs and the preference of those sectors that rely on locally produced inputs. · The use of the amended exchange rate helps to correct the balance in favor of the traded goods sectors compared to non-traded goods. · The real exchange rate has declined rapidly since the early seventies, through rapid rise of the level of prices and local costs which led by the steadiness of the official exchange rate to change in prices and actual local rate costs that gave an advantage for imported goods at the expense of locally produced goods, meaning that it led to deterioration of the competitiveness of alternative replacement goods and export commodities. · This action shows that the official exchange rate overestimates the value of the dinar, compared to the foreign currency and from the promoting goods substituting imports and export commodities point of view of. And in support to this view is the state’s utilization and in a broad approach to the customs and quantitative protection policies especially for consumer goods, as well as export subsidies that exports have through an amended export exchange rate. 3. Estimate the amended exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar to be used in technical and economical feasibility studies and for (1.134) dollar per dinar. This price should be approved for 3 years until re-appreciation by the competent authorities.
    8 points
  17. You know you guys are egging him on, right? He'll have to be 6X as "right" in an upcoming post to meet his ego quota.
    8 points
  18. Good evening Family, T minus 10…….or less. It’s good to be with you again Family. I wish to express my deepest appreciation for all of your birthday postings that you did yesterday to me. Thank you kindly. It was fun reading your well wishes. I am sorry that I was not able to respond to the almost two thousand posts on our thread yesterday. You guys set some records having fun. I turned 55 and am grateful to God to be alive. Yesterday on my birthday the GOI came very close to giving you and me……… a nice present of a complete and fully announced GOI. What we did get was M’s complete Ministerial list that the parliament received eagerly. Yesterday’s activities opened the door to today’s wonderful results. Last week I gave you the transcript to my conversation with DELTA …….let’s do that again for today. Greetings DELTA how are you this evening? Frankie Frankie I am doing great. There is so much to share should I download it or just talk about it tonight on the CC? There will be no CC tonight DELTA. WHAT?! I don’t understand. I know we are not in the White Alert of 23rd to the 26th but it is highly possible S will release the rate tonight after the 4pm EST vote. That’s our midnight and word is S is ready. BETA Team is showing me that it will not occur tonight. But Frankie Frankie early this morning the moon was the right color. The eclipse was in the right location. We crossed into the Winter Solstice ! We invented Astrology you know how important and significant these alignments are to our politicians. Everything is perfect for S to give the rate tonight. We were successful with our homework. S even came back Sunday with an article at 2:57pm just as you told us to look for it. The government now takes care of itself in an automated manner. The ball is now in Shabibi’s court. S………NOT his aids spoke Sunday on the 19th about the 000’s ……………ONCE AGAIN! I don’t understand why you don’t want to do the CC. DELTA…….I told you that for the first time I actually believed what M was saying last week. I truly believed that he would give his full cabinet minister list yesterday ………..and thank God he did. Today you saw what parliament did. BUT ………..it did not officially announce the complete GOI to the world. Remember what M said……….he would announce a complete GOI sometime between the 23rd and the 26th. This now becomes the second sentence that I believe of M. Therefore IMO ………we will not see S give the rate to M tonight. IMO ………S still awaits a full GOI announcement. IMO…….that will fall between the 23rd and the 26th. At that time you will see S give M the RI rate. But Frankie……….S is once again talking about the 000’s that need to be lifted. In the afternoon parliament session M was very upbeat when he addressed the ministers. You see yesterday not only did he give the minister list but he also turned in what he is calling the GOI plan. This government plan needs approval and that was done today. Everyone is in unison with M………today they gave him and his ministers the confidence vote. BUT……….the most exciting thing to me is that he ALSO talked about lifting the 000’s to parliament! He insisted that their national currency needed kema!!! He insisted that they tathbeet their nation’s currency!!! (Family the first word means installation or to install……..the second word means give it value.) I really feel something might happen going into tomorrow Frankie. I do not. I gamble on trusting M for a second time. Let us be patient and allow today to become tomorrow so we can do the CC and share more with the Family. IMO……we will learn and hear so much more about the 000’s ……..tomorrow. By the way good job on your homework. Tell them all for me I said thanks. THE PLAN OF THE AUTHORS has now become THE PLAN FOR M’S GOI. The Plan is to give the IQD………VALUE!!! They have stepped onto the stage of the world ………I do not believe they will walk on it as naked as they have for the last 20+ years. Amen to that Frankie. You know what else M told the GOI today? He said that their currency had been studied for two years and that the programmed rate of the IMF was no longer due to inflation being so low it was in their best interest to tathbeet!!! Then he even went on to say that if they did this it would make their ECONOMY STRONG!!! Did he really? Hmmm………..that M can sell anything can’t he? What I like DELTA is what we have seen in the last week could not have even been fathomed ………..six months ago. Not even a couple of months ago. Your report is good Sir………..M and S seem to be saying the same thing about their currency. My goodness M can sure sell anything………..I pray he sells this to the complete GOI from the 23rd to the 26th. Did he talk about the HCL? No not at all. But he talked of the success with the Kurds and their 19 agreements from yesterday. He talked of the 2011 budget as well. Tell me DELTA………of these two which would you rather have first as the last ……….Law to Pass? Good question because it could be the last law needed to convince S to give M the RI rate. IMO…….I will say the budget because when the Kurds were made happy yesterday with 19 issues they rewarded M today with Article 140. With or without the census. IMO………three of the four parts that make the Hydrocarbon Law have been done and fully functioning without the final law of the HCL. So to answer your question I believe the 2011 budget is more important to pass right now. I concur. An important matter to consider about the budget DELTA …………once approved with the new rate it will activate many other projects that need a higher rate. What else did M talk about today? Well besides the economy and the dinar he talked about inflation being down very low in Iraq. I think he was using that as a selling point when he was talking about lifting the 000’s. He did not mention this but I got it from the CBI ………Frankie any sovereign country cannot use dual currencies to run their government. That along with the second part of our homework where we were told that no banks will exchange the dinar right now into another currency because the programmed rate is null and void now. They can’t move with the IQD because they need a rate to carry it with. Whether it be 1170 or an RI rate of 3.22 or an RV rate of 3.86……….they wait for it. Yes they certainly do need a value to their currency. Or should I say an internationally recognized value? DELTA ……..I only wait for Shabibi. The GOI is tripping over its own feet to set up a nice stage for S to walk on. The pictures you sent me show nothing but parliament smiles with all the political interviews that the TV showed today. This type of happiness is so unusual. There wasn’t even 1% of hope even a month ago. You are right my friend no bank is exchanging the IQD. But I must admit that after today’s confidence vote for the ministers ………..CONFIDENCE is growing everywhere else for the IQD. I only wait for Shabibi now. IMO…….Shabibi only waits for …………23rd to the 26th to see a fully completed and announced GOI. So you want us to just follow Shabibi from now on? Yep. By the way the US Ambassador invited A and a lot of big politicians for dinner last night in Iraq. M was not there guess he was too busy. Today TV said that Biden and Obama called to congratulate M. LOL………how many times is B and O to congratulate M? LOL….I guess until someone notices. I know they want so badly to be a part of this. Time will tell. Thank you for the S article from the 19th. Looks like the Family already saw this one. Did you notice that S sounded like he already gave the RI rate to M? Just saying. Frankie Frankie you noticed that too? But did you notice oil today? LOL………who taught you to use oil prices as the barometer to the RI’s potential birth? Frankie Frankie did……..LOL. Anything else to report DELTA? No Sir but I do want to repeat that M was encouraging parliament to allow their currency to go up in value. He told them they studied their currency for a period of time and that they need to replace the programmed rate. He kept repeating the installation word. Frankie I walked away feeling that they need a rate ASAP!!! Thank you for the report today DELTA and the rest of Team too. I will see you on our CC tomorrow night. I believe by waiting these three days we will have a better understanding and clearer picture to share with the Family. There are too many rumors and we need to be careful. God bless you Sir. Family you asked me about my meter……it still stands at 9.90. IMO it will go to 9.95 sometime between the 23rd to the 26th. Then if S gives M the rate it goes to 10.0………..the end. With that in mind this is also the end of my post. God bless you all. My Christian love for those that are willing to accept it………Aloha. KTF, Frank
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  19. Um.. some of you clearly overlooked that he said "brother in law".. ya'll may need to learn how to read before you start bashing. Remember, this is the RUMORS section.
    8 points
  20. Iraq Government Formed? Almost I am happy to report today that the Government of Iraq has finally made some progress. The Iraqi government has been formed and is of a “national partnership”. All the major factions and sectarian groups now have a representation in the government. Nuri Al-Maliki will continue on as the Prime Minister. His Deputy Prime Ministers are Rosch Nuri Shaways (a Kurd from the KDP), Husain al-Shahristani (a Shi’a and Minister of Oil in the last government) and Saleh al-Mutlaq (a Sunni from Ayad Allawi’s al-Iraqiyah List). Abdul Karim Luaibi has been confirmed as Ministry of Oil. The only drawback is, the list of Ministers that PM Nuri Maliki presented to the Iraqi Parliament is incomplete with acting ministers temporary appointed to the vacant slots. PM Maliki states that he did not receive the resumes of some of the candidates and therefore could not present them to Parliament. In the meantime, Prime Minister Maliki has appointed nine acting ministers to these vacant posts until acceptable nominees are presented and voted upon. There has been no further development on Dr. Allawi’s position of National Council for Strategic Policies. Also note, no agreement has been reached on who will occupy the three security ministries: the Ministry of Defense, Interior, and National Security. For now, Prime Minister Al-Maliki has appointed himself as acting minister for these three posts. Here is the complete list: Prime Minister - Nuri Kamal al-Maliki Deputy Prime Minister and acting Minister of Trade - Rosch Nuri Shaways Deputy Prime Minister and acting Minister of Electricity - Husain al-Shahristani Deputy Prime Minister - Saleh al-Mutlaq Ministry of Foreign Affairs and acting Minister of State of Women's Affairs - Hoshayr Zebari Minister of Finance - Raffi al-Essawi Minister of Oil - Abdul Kareem Luaibi Minister of Justice - Hassan al-Shamari Minister of Electricity - Ziad Tareq Minister of Higher Education - Ali al-Adeeb Minister of Education - Mohammed Tamim Minister of Agriculture - Ezzaldin al-Dawla Minister of Construction and Housing and acting Minister of Municipalities - Mohammed al-Daraji Minister of Health - Mohammed Hamid Amin Minister of Industry - Ahmed Nasser Dali Minister of Communications - Mohammed Tawfiq Allawi Ministry of Transport - Hadi al-Ameri Minister of Sciences and Technology - Abdul Karim al-Samarraie Minister of Culture - Saadun al-Dulaimi Minister of Human Rights - Mohammed Shayaa al-Soudani Minister of Environment - Sirkoun Sleiwa Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs and acting Minister of Planning - Nassar al-Rubaie Minister of Immigration and acting Minister of State for Civil Society Affairs - Dindar Najman Minister of Water Resources - Muhanad Salman al-Sa'idi Minister of Youth and Sports - Jasim Mohammed Jaffar Minister of Tourism - Liwa Sameem Minister of State for National Reconciliation Affairs - Amer al-Khizai Minister of State and Cabinet spokesman - Ali al-Dabbagh Minister of State for Parliament Affairs - Safaa'din al-Safi Minister of State for Foreign Affairs - Ali al-Sajri Minister of State for the Affairs of the Marshes - Hasan al-Sari Minister of State for Provincial Affairs - Turhan Muslih Hassan Minister of State (without portfolio) - Salah Mazahem Minister of State (without portfolio) - Yaseen Ahmed Mohammed Minister of State (without portfolio) - Abd al-Mehdi al-Mateeri Minister of State (without portfolio) - Bushra Hassan Saleh Minister of State (without portfolio) - Dhiyaa al-Asadi Prime Minister - Nuri Kamal al-Maliki Deputy Prime Minister and acting Minister of Trade - Rosch Nuri Shaways Deputy Prime Minister and acting Minister of Electricity - Husain al-Shahristani Deputy Prime Minister - Saleh al-Mutlaq Ministry of Foreign Affairs and acting Minister of State of Women's Affairs - Hoshayr Zebari Minister of Finance - Raffi al-Essawi Minister of Oil - Abdul Kareem Luaibi Minister of Justice - Hassan al-Shamari Minister of Electricity - Ziad Tareq Minister of Higher Education - Ali al-Adeeb Minister of Education - Mohammed Tamim Minister of Agriculture - Ezzaldin al-Dawla Minister of Construction and Housing and acting Minister of Municipalities - Mohammed al-Daraji Minister of Health - Mohammed Hamid Amin Minister of Industry - Ahmed Nasser Dali Minister of Communications - Mohammed Tawfiq Allawi Ministry of Transport - Hadi al-Ameri Minister of Sciences and Technology - Abdul Karim al-Samarraie Minister of Culture - Saadun al-Dulaimi Minister of Human Rights - Mohammed Shayaa al-Soudani Minister of Environment - Sirkoun Sleiwa Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs and acting Minister of Planning - Nassar al-Rubaie Minister of Immigration and acting Minister of State for Civil Society Affairs - Dindar Najman Minister of Water Resources - Muhanad Salman al-Sa'idi Minister of Youth and Sports - Jasim Mohammed Jaffar Minister of Tourism - Liwa Sameem Minister of State for National Reconciliation Affairs - Amer al-Khizai Minister of State and Cabinet spokesman - Ali al-Dabbagh Minister of State for Parliament Affairs - Safaa'din al-Safi Minister of State for Foreign Affairs - Ali al-Sajri Minister of State for the Affairs of the Marshes - Hasan al-Sari Minister of State for Provincial Affairs - Turhan Muslih Hassan Minister of State (without portfolio) - Salah Mazahem Minister of State (without portfolio) - Yaseen Ahmed Mohammed Minister of State (without portfolio) - Abd al-Mehdi al-Mateeri Minister of State (without portfolio) - Bushra Hassan Saleh Minister of State (without portfolio) - Dhiyaa al-Asadi
    7 points
  21. Hang tight Boys and Girls, VIP's when you get the text message and e-mail from Adam you will be sure the RV is real. All other sites and comments on the site are wishful thinking out loud. Which we all wish it would have happened yesteryear! Dreaming is free, it's going to happen, soon! It happened in Kuwait and it's going to happen in Iraqi. Keep the faith, remember God and He will remember you. See you at the bank, real, real, SOON!
    7 points
  22. Do you guys really think if you asked a manager, banker, or foreign currency dept of a bank, that they would actually give you intel?? C'mon...they didn't just fall off the turnip truck. They aren't going to tell you jack! Once again, this is coming from someone who worked for Bank of America for years. I know how they operate. However, if it's a family member or very close friend, they may give you a little heads up...Thanks for the word!
    7 points
  23. Central Bank Consultant: Our face inflation and monetary policy-making after the exit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- scious / Central Bank Consultant: Our face inflation and monetary policy-making after the exit of the seventh item / dialogue المشـرف العام General Supervisor حجم الخط: Font size: واع/ حيدر البكري Conscious / Haidar al-Bakri Taadalcasp cash of the most important pillars of building the Iraqi economy at any stage of the Growth Qsdtha Iraqi governments that came to اداManagement matters of the country . . Through which to commence project management Correctional developed or relied upon as Provide an outline of services اProvided by public institutions for the general public Of production facilities or Service both As well as providing Income per capita From the funds of the country ي Can Which تInsurance needs of goods and services markets . Iraqi local. After the political change 2003 That occurred in Iraq in 2003 Emerged on the surface the importance of cemented And strengthen policy Altkadip in light of the variables that occurred Which Atekst heavily on Economy in all its aspects. However, the survival of the most important monetary policy going natural is the ideas Visions adopted by the correct مسؤولحينها Officials and financial experts in Iraq, not as rumored then اThat the official occupation administration in Iraq, Bremer is to draw Policy of the financial situation in the country. In order to clarify the policy visions Altkadip met in Iraq (news agency, media / INA) Adviser to the CBI The appearance of Mohammed Saleh And through the following dialog. * م What are future plans to maintain the value of the national currency? - Currency values have a value of internal and external value But foreign currency is the Iraqi dinar exchange rate against foreign currencies, we are at the present time and for the third consecutive year, witnessing the exchange rate stability and a clear value (11 170) Dinars to the dollar and this stability works to promote and facilitate investment opportunities and strengthens the planning for the future and we were able to make the citizen Mtmona not be busy at any fluctuations in the exchange rate Unlike in the past that it is changing the exchange rate five times during the day, and now price of stable exchange This is the success of the monetary policy followed the Bank's في The stability of the external value of the Iraqi dinar ا As for the internal value of the dinar is difficult to separate the internal and external values of the dinar, but the goal is to address the overall level of prices, and this level Homwhrat inflation in the Iraqi economy is to be adopted by the central bank based on لان ا Because the index of consumer prices Deleted Menna fuel prices and some food Almkwad Kalkhaddr. * What is the size of today's inflation and its impact on the Iraqi economy? - الى 34% - Inflation today arrived in less than 3% and this is a good sign for the Iraqi economy for the past when he was in previous years reached 34% وأن And that Iraq today for the first time up to place the decimal one This is a success, where he and three decades after Iraq was living in a hyper-inflation and of course this gives the stability of the value of Interior of the Iraqi dinar as the main objective of monetary policy is to maintain the value of internal and external of the Iraqi dinar stable and promising, we The optimistic value of the dinar and its exchange rate. * Is the Iraqi dinar will see improvement after this stability? - اSettle the Iraqi dinar is witnessing good but we can not to give promises about the real What will happen after Auaamin ل But we believe if Matovrt fundamentals upon which the improvement in the dinar value A booming oil revenues, Iraq's foreign currency with a boom of development in Iraq, قيThe value of the Iraqi dinar and that will improve مقداThe amount of currency controlled by the two things are indicators of inflation and high reserves in support of the Iraqi dinar. There you have the line working to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar? That the plan used by the central bank is the plan (the installer nominal) when we noticed that the real exchange rate of the dinar is higher than the nominal exchange rate of 25% and this means that the values of State of the dinar undervalued work of the central bank to absorb a larger portion of inflation affects currency in particular inflation importer by raising the exchange rate ق Iraqi dinar value% Making the exchange rate of the nominal value equal to the real Saragaymp This situation worked to absorb 25% Inflationary pressures We continue to monitor the In us if they will apply according to what required and we got at the present time the balance When we see the real exchange rate is higher than the nominal We work to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar immediately where we expect that the Iraqi dinar is continuously improving and will improve the value of the national currency. * When can the economy of Iraq to take advantage of the five-year plan? Monetary policy has a long-term prospects as the development program launched by the Iraqi Ministry of Planning م From 2010 to 2014 period are positive for the reconstruction and development Alguetsadi building and contribute to the progress of the Iraqi dinar's value in reducing Unemployment rates, stability and political stability also will see all these positive treated. * What is the Bank's role in the development of private and public sectors? Central Bank Bakanonp As the new learning-oriented market economy and work from the basic stability of the banking market وهIt is the financial market and financial market stability and deepening the stability of the real and financial depth للبلاد ووضيفة هذه Of the country and this Odevp ااستثماراتهم Market is the transfer of funds from surplus units to deficit units to investors who need to finance their investments And function of the central bank is a watchful eye that support market activity in the market transformation is the primary function of the bank through a broad interpretation servo market financing to support the economic process, the security of funding and funding support from the central Huamlalpennek through the provision of the partnership between the elements of a market economy and the country's economy. * * What is the mechanism and conditions ل To grant licenses to banks? - We are an enterprise and regulatory oversight of financial institutions in Iraq and the right of any person material and moral support to get ahead on a vacation to create a bank, but under the terms of The essential point is a must ان That لا At least 250 Mlyardinar or 200 thousand dollars and must be experienced not have any issues in the embezzlement Awaip reproach that the other must sober from the mid-eminent in the Iraqi society and have the ability in contributing to the construction and development in the financial sector, especially construction right that serves the process economical for the country this examine the foundations and on its basis are granted permits to companies after they obtained the license by the Registrar of Companies. He noted that the existing banks Currently trying to raise the level of economic hold such laws. . Indicating that there is news about the merger of banks in Mabinha trying to unite Alternator their money to reach the threshold required by the President of the money and which will make partnerships with foreign companies and we encourage such a things, that the goal of that is to provide bodies strong banking a technology and the possibilities and capabilities are high. * How Iray grant the Central Bank International Monetary Fund? Iraq Mosse of the International Monetary Fund and includes 188 countries and Iraq signed an agreement with the IMF standby credit with the IMF, where قام The اCentral Bank and the Ministry of Finance signed نيابة On behalf of For the Iraqi government in February 2010 And gives Iraq a loan of $ (3.7) billion dollars, Iraq received 1.2 billion of them contain these amounts on segments of any broad interpretation and that the fund during each four months working on evaluating Whether in Iraq or the needs of these amounts do not need the money and then give this credit forward to the public budget ولاول مرة . For the first time. ة He noted that the Fund does not give to the budget and these occur the first time . Gives the bank so Adject Threads balance of payments and that is why it is that the fund has given money to the budget because the bank does not have the money to give the government they made to send money to the budget, and dealing with the International Monetary Fund is the cooperation of building because it gives money to states that have the prospect of a free economic with the world as the country receiving the loan from the World Bank gives the impression that the country also has a transparency in dealing with international financial institutions and vice versa. He noted that the grant Iraq alone put on this subject because the question marks was heading to work with the global financial history with Iraq, plagued by a lot of bug today and the right is that international cooperation Pmaihfez dignity of Iraq and the people of Iraq and that Iraq needs الى To peace with the world. He said, adding that the conditions established by the Fund are the conditions of reform, to that I worked 8 years in Iraq, a representative of the International Monetary Fund The strength of the central bank's great that all the conditionalities of the Fund since 2004 to reform the conditions now purely and the Iraqi government must Anthml these conditions for Salah Ndhamha economic conditions, only the existence of the Fund's first update system through reform of the banking system reform the public service. ** Where will the Iraqi economy after the exit from Chapter VII? - 15 /12 /2009 . - Iraq and as of 15.12.2009 was able to get out from under this resolution, which kept Iraq suffered for 20 years. He pointed out that decisions 1956/1957/1958 اقانونيا Security Council 1956/1957/1958 removed the blockade on Iraq, where it benefited from the exit of the first item and enter Iraq in the international community and became a legal input Also said that Iraq would be free to dispose of its assets 30/6 /2011 . Without the supervision of international Aorkabp starting from 30.06.2011. واAnd the Development Fund for Iraq will be canceled And established new accounts to the government-run central bank Niab the Ministry of Finance and the State will operate under the Iraqi 100%The other paragraph that Iraq was deprived of Technology, today it is has the right to deal with international companies. . Indicating that Iraq will witness huge investments and the Investment Law No. 13 is the incubator theory of either after the exit of the seventh item will become active and like a good investment Tknaloggio prosperous and advanced infrastructure with high competitive global economic and financial. الوزارية المشكلة لحل المتعلقات مع الكويتHe pointed out that we support the Ministerial Committee to resolve the problem belongings with Kuwait. * Will the central bank to determine the central banking? -ان البنك حالياً لديه - The bank currently has Visions of the future is to identify the central banking and تThose visions basic strategy first, a process to raise zeros from the Iraqi currency and the draft reform of currency regimes in Iraq Currency because the current format and structure is the remnants of the siege because the growth came from the inflation did not come from the growth يSeen real economic في. In Iraq today, so until we have the homogeneity among the mass of money commensurate with real growth must be re-Alnzzr in the currency in terms of specifications and purchasing power. مشيراً الى ان He pointed out that هذThis is a normal administrative system facilitates payments without going into the controversy. He explained that this project does not inspire fear because he is a future project, but put بعض القوانين The bank needs to be approved by the government and the need to amend some laws . . To find out the proceedings لTechniques for this project Which must be studied well. Iatib with emphasis on the project to be working for him, but sad that it is in effect for that it needs a national campaign through the state and parliament Moisrp And that there is a change we will be in the components of the currency to be of high purchasing power through the issuance of Qip big, big currency. Indicating that the Iraqis deal today $ 100. And this is the biggest Dlell that we need urgent action to issue a category 100 الthousand dinars to shorten the transaction today, he is now in the currency market, the largest category of 25 thousand dinars or the equivalent of U.S. $ 23 for the piece we Bhaj to a larger group because the money (Cache) With people in banks has become a difficult way to carry the large size we need any re-installation of the currency. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fal-iraqnews.net
    7 points
  24. Default Med - MM17 Q and A Chat 12/21/10 7pm PST butterfly Any possibilites that they are going to LOP Med NO, ZILCH,NADDA DINARANNIE: What was speculation around the world about? Med OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST SPECULATION IS THAT AN RV WILL COME THIS WEEK TONIGHT OR WEDNESDAY IN IRAQ THEY I BELIEVE HAVE THE 3RD READING OF THE BUDGET THEN IT IS FINALIZED Terry4100: on a scale of 1 to 10 what the chances of having an RV in the next 30 days Med 10 sonshine: What is the possibility that the RV will not happen until 2011 if any. Why is there wide spread speculation happening Med 70/30 AND WHY DO YOU THINK THERE IS WIDE SPREAD SPECULATION I MEAN FOR MONTHS SINCE MAY THE CENTRAL BANK HAS SAID WHAT THAT THEY WILL REVALUE WHEN? AS SOON AT THE GOVT IS FORMED THAT IS WHY THERE IS NOW SPECULATION papa2snbh: Med, do you think that parliment must vote on the RV? or can Shab do it all on his own Med SHABIBI CAN DO IT ON HIS OWN ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION THE PARLIAMENT IS THERE IN CASE CBI NEEDS IT'S HELP NOT TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEM I THINK THIS IS FOR TWO REASONS ONE AS A COURTESY TO THE NEW PARLIAMENT AND 2ND TO CYA WITH THE HISTORY OF THE GOI AND PAST PARLIAMENT TIMING AND KEEPING TIMELINES AND GOING FORWARD WITH NEEDED PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED OR FINISHED miss aloha: please explain the 3rd reading of the budget. Not sure what that means. Med THERE ARE 3 READINGS OF ANY PASSAGE OF A BILL AFTER THE 3RD READING WITHOUT OBJECTION IT IS PUBLISHED IN THE GAZETTE AND THEN IS CONSIDERED OFFICIAL NEXT ? TheOneArmedMan: So from your statement above about the budget could it be tied together with the RV Med NO BUT IT WOULD BE FINALLY THE START THAT THIS GROUP NEEDS TO HAVE ALL SET AND READY TO ENTER INTO THE NEXT STEP FOR IRAQ TO HAVE YOUR GVT FORMED HAVE YOUR BUDGET READY HAVE TRADE SANCTIONS REMOVED AND READY TO GO AND TO HAVE A FOREIGN EXCHANGE CURRENCY TO START TRADING GLOBAL papaw19: med, why are they still selling so much dinar,, 1.6 mil Med TO CONTROL THE RATE OF EXCHANGE wdirwin: Will there ever be a point when they will be forced to RV because of speculation Med NOT SURE ABOUT THAT Seybonazo: Med, do you think Shabibi will try to get this done quickly to stop widespread speculation? Med BUT IN THE LAST ARTICLE FROM CBI THEY WERE CLEAR ABOUT THE TIMING AND THEY SAID THE TIME IS RIGHT TO REMOVE THE ZERO'S Tennessee Gamble: Do you think that a RV date has already been set? Med HMMMM THAT IS A TOUGH ONE TG I AM LIKE 50/50 ON IT SORRY 402raptor: can we expect the IMF to get involved w/ added pressure if not done very soon Med OH OK THE IMF IS PRESSURING THEM NOW NO LOANS AND THEY ALSO SAID THEY TOTALLY SUPPORT THE CBI'S DECISION TO REMOVE THE ZERO'S miss aloha: Although all of the ministry was not filled. Is that still considered completed GOI? Med YES moonbeam: Do you think this mass speculation will lower the rate? Med NO Seybonazo: How long will Iraq need to introduce Lower Denoms to Banks/Vendors and do you believe they ran thru a test scenario of this? Med NO TIME AT ALL THE LOWER DENOMS ARE ALREADY IN IRAQ AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN OVERNIGHT EXCHANGE CBI KNOWS THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE SOME PROBLEMS TRUSTING THE NEW LOWER DENOMS SO THIS WILL BE GRADUAL WHICH FOR US MEANS ZILCH WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT sonshine: Is there a reason for it to take several days to RV? Med YES AND IT COULD TAKE MAYBE TWO WEEKS IT IS JUST WHAT IS ON THE TABLE HOW MUCH DOES IT REALL MEAN TO THE COUNTRY AND NEW GOVT 402raptor: Will we see the rv on forex,small denoms released or loaded on the eagle cards first Med NO CLUE THE EAGLE CARD THING IS MUTE SMALL DENOMS IS ANYONES CALL AND FOREX THAT IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY karma: I know Med has gone over the 3 readings but have they done the 3rd one yet or is it to be done Med NO THEY HAVEN'T KARMA WASwearingen: what do your contacts (LAN) think about the possibility of tonight, tomorrow Med NO yoyomama: Any idea for time ltd to exchange. Thans Med NO I NEVER SAID THAT Hawkeye1: Med what is the mood i Iraq right now as far as citizens. are they celebrating about the government being formed Med HONEST NO CLUE I AM SURE THEY ARE EXCITED telestar: Does Iraq need to move to IMF Article VIII prior to an RV? mailman17 ALSO..REPORT SAYS THE LOWER DENOMES WILL..REPEAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY EOY AND IN CIRCULATION Med NO mailman17 NICE CHAT PAL...KUDOS GET SOME REST...AND GET YOUR BAGS PACKED mailman17 OK..HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING AND JUST ADDING TO MEDS REMARK ON TOMMOROWS MEETING TOMORROW IS THE 3 READING WHICH MAKES THE BUDGET LAW DO NOT WORRY WHETHER THE BUDGET IS IN TRILLIONS OR BILLIONS MAKES NO DIFFERNECE NUMBERS CAN BE ADJUSTED TO ACCOMODATE THE NEW RATE HYPOTHEICALLY...SHABS JUST MAY BE THERE...AS A COURTTESY TO LET PARLIMENT KNOW...THE RV WILL BE IMPLEMENTED HE DOES NOT NEED THEIR PERMISSION BUT WITH THE NEW GOVT...NEW MINITERS, NEW PARLIMENT ECT IT JUST MAY BE HIS WAY OF TELLING THEM...GO YOU CAN TRADE NOW GO YOU HAVE A RECOGNIZED CURRENCY GO ITS ACTUALLY WORTH SOMETHING GO AND WITH THAT FOLLOWS THE INFRASTRUCTURE JMO P.S. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.... Astro Guy you have mentioned everything so well mm17. rest the case. mailman17 ASTRO..YOU CONCUR? Astro Guy for sure heard that M talked about iqd and the need to increase its value in his first speech at the parliament. if that is true thats so great. yes heard of several things iqd figured twice in his speech it seems. mailman17 ALLAWI JUST MAY BE THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER IN IRAQ ASTRO...HES GONNA HAVE TO FIT IT IN AT SOME POINT....CANT HIDE IT ANYMORE.... Astro Guy sure A is extremely happy as seemed to have gotten more than expected for their group collectively. A is upbeat about working productively with the new govt. mailman17 YES HE IS THERES REALLY NOTHING TO ADD...BUT WAIT Astro Guy i am just listening to both med and mm17. great recap of events unfolding. i tend to agree with lan that there may be a vote on this as early as the same day or day after the budget approval. due to shear magnitude of this monetary tsunami Med OUTSTANDING ANALOGY I WAS TRYING TO PUT THAT INTO WORDS EARLIER WHEN I SAID ABOUT ALL THINGS FALLING INTO PLACE BEFORE THE NEW YEAR mailman17 ASTRO...THATS EXACTLY WHAT ME AND MED TALKED ABOUT ON THE PHONE....AND FALLS INTO WHAT YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THAT TEXT MED... 402raptor says to (21:42:54):Not sure if this was answered or not ,so the big thing for tomorrow is the parliment meeting on the budget Med IT IS SUPPOSE TOO RAPTOR YES mailman17 CANT BUY WHATS NOT AVAILABLE AND ANY CURRENCY OUTISED IRAQ HAS ALREADY BEEN FIGURED INTO THE M2 Med IT IS BIG EXACTLY MM17
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  25. I copied this from another place when I was emailed about this. Intersting as I made the post here about the Toyotas and Freighters this company owns as well as much more. They are in just about everything in Iraq as well as global. Just thought some might like to see it. Hope it was not posted already and I missed it. Thanks. A GENTLEMAN, BY THE NAME OF XXXXXX, JUST CALL ME. (HE IS ONE OF MY HUSBAND'S PARTNERS AT L.A.P.D - THEY ARE BOTH MOTORS. SEVERAL OF THE OFFICERS HAVE INVESTED IN THE DINAR. (I THINK ALOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE RETIRING) MY HUSBAND, IS AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE. ANYWAY, HE CALLED TO LET ME KNOW THAT HIS XXXX, WHO IS THE XXX XXXXX XX XXXXX FOR SUMITOMO BANK, IN NEW YORK RECIEVED A MEMO TO "START SETTING UP FOR THE CONVERSTION OF THE IRAQI DINAR" THAT IS TO OCCUR AT ANY TIME. THEY STATED AT THIS MOMENT OF TIME IT IS SHOWING BETWEEN $1.00 - $3.00 AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, BUT THAT THAT "RATE" COULD CHANGE. SO, HERE IS ANOTHER CONFIRMATION THAT WE ARE "RIGHT THERE". THE MEMO WAS SENT TO HIS XXXXX, YESTERDAY. AND THE XXXXX CALLED HIM TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT HE FOUND OUT. I HAVE KNOWN XXXXX FOR WELL OVER 10 YEARS. HE'S A STRAIGHT UP GUY AND DOESN'T PULL PUNCHES.
    6 points
  26. I can. Okie's full of Oscar Meyer bologna!
    6 points
  27. Not everybody is as adventurous as us. People are emotional when it comes to money, they think if it's too good to be true, it must be. Being an entrepreneur, I see it all the time in people when I tell them the risks I take and the stuff I try. Meh, some people are just better suited to a J.O.B. for the rest of their life. Not ME! GO RV!
    6 points
  28. The 3.22 contract rate is true have contact that is a contractor and he had to resubmitt contracts at 3.22 . We walk in the Blessing those who choose to. Clyde Merry Christmas
    6 points
  29. I am beginning to think that Okie Oil Man is related to TK now.
    6 points
  30. Trust me when I say HE IS BANNED FROM THIS SITE ALSO!! I took care of him earlier today :wave:
    6 points
  31. This is exactly what I have been trying to tell him all along. I wonder if he even opens my letters?
    6 points
  32. The forex has a spread....the buy and sell rates are different.......Adam can get a better rate if you are VIP.....check it out.
    6 points
  33. Why are you here???? I have reviewed your post and you have not had one nice thing to say to anyone!! You signed up on Dec 19th and you have a Reputation: -83 Bad !! hmmmmmm!!!
    6 points
  34. Here is edited copy of Discussions with Scooter tonight beginning at 7:46PM. Scooter was on from 7:46PM until 9:01PM I have edited out the portions of time that Scooter was off circuit and the inane comments that add nothing to the discussion, but it is still a lengthy post. Hope this helps in understanding the riddle that is Iraq and RV. SailorDave 7:46 PM [Scooter] Sorry about that 7:46 PM [Eagleman] CarrieAnn You just asked the million dollar question. If the RV comes out BEFORE the HCL is completed then it, IMO, will be low. Afterwards it will be higher 7:46 PM [Scooter] What did I miss 7:46 PM [CarrieAnn] dflake which is what makes me wonder how this will all play out. 7:47 PM [renros] Scooter Scooter thought you have RAN TO THE BANK!!! 7:47 PM [nene052700] Scooter hey there FINALLY!!! 7:47 PM [HuntTech] CarrieAnn, it's a chicken-egg conundrum... mostly because we don't know what the Kurds are willing to give-in on with these deals. They might be given a sweet "promise" of a deal and take it... 7:47 PM [dflake] CarrieAnn ditto 7:47 PM [Scooter] nene052700 nene052700 nene052700 nene052700 7:47 PM [dinardragonfly] Scooter Scooter Scooter Scooter Scooter how are they going to pay for the tariffs 7:47 PM [Scooter] Good Evening 7:47 PM [Scooter] dinardragonfly Who's paying 7:47 PM [nene052700] Scooter GE 7:47 PM [Scooter] it's for the imports 7:47 PM [CarrieAnn] HuntTech do you remember that article I linked you earlier about the 2 year thing? 7:47 PM [Scooter] Iraq gets paid 7:47 PM [dflake] dinardragonfly they recieve tariff 7:47 PM [dflake] receive* 7:47 PM [HuntTech] CarrieAnn yep 7:47 PM [renros] Scooter dinardragonfly how are they trading right now???? 7:47 PM [dinardragonfly] dflake oh 7:47 PM [Scooter] hold on 7:48 PM [Scooter] Eagleman 7:48 PM [CarrieAnn] HuntTech I think it was passing 140... dd is calling that the HCL... what do you think? 7:48 PM [Scooter] that was a great call 7:48 PM [Eagleman] Scooter Oh Oh! Scooter is back, I am in trouble.... 7:48 PM [HuntTech] CarrieAnn nope... don't agree. 7:48 PM [wshflthnkn] Eagleman good point 7:48 PM [pleasantvalleySunday] please let Scoot type 7:48 PM [Scooter] it fits with a multiple RV as wewll 7:48 PM [Scooter] nooooooo 7:48 PM [mackbear] Is there bad news...is that why everyone is down.? 7:48 PM [quantumforce1] Matt -- you got quiet again 7:48 PM [Scooter] That's good stuff 7:48 PM [Scooter] that needs to be repeated 7:48 PM [Scooter] if they don't have the HCL done 7:48 PM [renros] Jimsdandy :0) has worked for decades why not 7:48 PM [CarrieAnn] HuntTech it doesnt seem to fit the context... just trying to figure out where it comes from. 7:49 PM [Scooter] then the RV would need to be low 7:49 PM [Scooter] That's a great point 7:49 PM [dflake] Eagleman agree, which will also allow to RV with a short time frame for large notes, imo 7:49 PM [mackbear] Scooter How low.. 7:49 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter but when you say low you mean in the 1+ ish range right? 7:49 PM [renros] Scooter Scooter what are you calling low? 7:49 PM [Scooter] yep 7:49 PM [wshflthnkn] C'mon HCL then 7:49 PM [HuntTech] mackbear par with USD would be my guess. 7:49 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter haha ok thats all good then. 7:50 PM [Scooter] low 1's 7:50 PM [mackbear] HuntTech I would be so done...... 7:50 PM [HuntTech] mackbear yep 7:50 PM [Scooter] 7:50 PM [Scooter] hmmmmmmm 7:50 PM [Eagleman] Scooter But will rise when the HCL is completed and the big boys begin production 7:50 PM [Scooter] I need to check something real quick 7:50 PM [quantumforce1] Scooby Doo Scooter .. Why does the HCL need to be done first? 7:50 PM [renros] Scooter do you think the rate is already in black and white with the new budget??? 7:50 PM [Scooter] Exactly 7:50 PM [dflake] i.ve said $1.17 all along, sticking by it 7:51 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter how likely is a double RV? is it possible that it would coincide with the new GCC currency? (I know thats only theory right now but Im just tossing out ideas) 7:51 PM [dhawk7] Eagleman on another chat... said kurds are happy with their 19 articles that were signed so the census will not be a sticking point for r.v. 7:51 PM [Matt] Sticking by $3 + JMO 7:52 PM [Scooter] CarrieAnn Not that far out 7:52 PM [bcmaz] Scooter So if they decided to go with the 2 or even multi tier RV, wouldn't the higher denoms be the first one demanded back? 7:52 PM [Scooter] carrieanne 7:52 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter gotcha. How likely and how far are you thinking? 7:52 PM [Scooter] do we have any details on the HCL stuff 7:52 PM [Scooter] I need to dig into this 7:52 PM [Eagleman] dhawk7 The HCL has more to do than just the jurds all factions, including the kurds, must sign off on their % of the oil money. Talk about a potentially explosive situation, we are talking about money in pockets here 7:52 PM [Matt] Scooter It is called the Hydro Carbon Law J/K 7:53 PM [Scooter] I know -- you're right 7:53 PM [Matt] Scooter 7:53 PM [Scooter] get off my you know what 7:53 PM [dflake] Eagleman and will take some time 7:53 PM [quantumforce1] Matt --- why must the HCL be passed first? 7:53 PM [Scooter] and do it 7:53 PM [Scooter] brb 8:07 PM [Scooter] FYI : The portion of the hydrocarbon law approved by the cabinet in February concerns managing hydrocarbon investment, in particular how the upstream part of the industry will be developed. It is only one part of what will eventually be a four-part agreement. The three other parts of the agreement will deal with the issues of 1) revenue sharing; 2) restructuring of the ministry of oil; and 3) establishing the Iraqi National Oil Company (INOC). 8:07 PM [patriotic party girl] CarrieAnn CarrieAnn oh ok so i can drop it off there 8:07 PM [quantumforce1] nene052700 --- see that is how bad rumors start 8:08 PM [linda55] nene052700 , yes i did today 8:08 PM [Eagleman] Scooter Scooter shoots and scores! 8:08 PM [quantumforce1] nene052700 -- thanks for verifying 8:08 PM [patriotic party girl] Eagleman ok u got it 8:08 PM [Scooter] The separation of revenue matters from management of the oil sector is vital, but there has to be agreement on the other matters—the sharing of revenue, the oil ministry (which is relatively non-controversial) and INOC (including the specific fields within its remit)—before the legislation can be submitted to the Council of Representatives (the Iraqi parliament). 8:08 PM [patriotic party girl] CarrieAnn CarrieAnn look scooter is diong our work for us haha 8:09 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter ohhhh you have the law?? What is article 8 about?? 8:09 PM [Scooter] http://dinarvets.com/for ··· nd-when/ **This is full link for above link referenced by Scooter (SailorDave)** http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/46385-the-iraq-hydrocarbon-law-how-and-when/ 8:09 PM [Scooter] that comes from our very own 8:09 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] I was kinda hoping that immediately meant right away for the RV after GOI 8:09 PM [renros] Scooter hmmm but they are gonna have to know the value of that revenue to share it go RV 8:09 PM [Scooter] {ProdigiousHaitian} 8:09 PM [wshflthnkn] February? 8:10 PM [Scooter] It sounds like they are using the 2007 Census data 8:10 PM [Scooter] Still looking 8:10 PM [puffsplus] Scooter works for me 8:10 PM [frankc] renros They probably only need to specify percentages. 8:10 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] bambi yep 8:10 PM [patriotic party girl] Scooter Scooter great work there scooter 8:11 PM [Eagleman] patriotic party girl yeah he just knocked it out of the park 8:11 PM [Scooter] This suggests a degree of recentralization of control over oil, an important concession by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), which had previously insisted that Kurdistan’s oil belonged to the people of Kurdistan, that “new” oil fields should be managed exclusively by the KRG, and that the private sector—including international oil companies—should play a major role. The ministry of oil argued for a prominent role for the state sector and the government in Baghdad. Compromise on the oil law was made possible by the promise of an ironclad system for revenue sharing, an agreement that has not yet been approved even in the cabinet. 8:12 PM [Scooter] So 8:12 PM [linda55] Chuckles , you are welcome sweetie 8:12 PM [Scooter] if 3 out of the 4 have passed the cabinet 8:12 PM [Scooter] my question is this 8:12 PM [Scooter] my question is this 8:12 PM [Eagleman] Scooter Ha ha ha Which ones have passed? 8:12 PM [Scooter] Why would Talabani call for Malicki if this wasn't resolved for the kurds 8:12 PM [bambi] Scooter it all has to do with money 8:13 PM [Scooter] it's the kurds that want to keep thier oil 8:13 PM [Scooter] but they also want their share 8:13 PM [Scooter] 8:13 PM [Scooter] nice try 8:13 PM [Scooter] 8:13 PM [bambi] greed 8:13 PM [bambi] 8:13 PM [Scooter] their 8:13 PM [Scooter] TY 8:13 PM [Scooter] 8:14 PM [Scooter] Eagleman ahhhhh 8:14 PM [Scooter] un momento 8:14 PM [Scooter] just saw that 8:14 PM [Scooter] only one part has passed 8:14 PM [nene052700] so much going on...its confusing me!! 8:15 PM [Scooter] The portion of the hydrocarbon law approved by the cabinet in February concerns managing hydrocarbon investment, in particular how the upstream part of the industry will be developed. It is only one part of what will eventually be a four-part agreement. The three other parts of the agreement will deal with the issues of 1) revenue sharing; 2) restructuring of the ministry of oil; and 3) establishing the Iraqi National Oil Company (INOC). 8:15 PM [Scooter] and not by the parliment 8:15 PM [Scooter] huh 8:15 PM [Scooter] only the investment part has passed 8:15 PM [***ucme1stnow***] soooo how does eoy sound to u Scooter,,me and matt r all in 8:15 PM [Eagleman] Scooter I do not see how they could even START on this investment until today with a finalized Minister 8:16 PM [Scooter] the revenue sharing -- restructuring the ministy of oil --- and establishing the Iraqi national Oil Company has not 8:16 PM [dflake] Eagleman agree, or make a agreement with Kuwait without a GOI 8:16 PM [quantumforce1] Eagleman -- well, they could have some preliminary stuff draw up -- nothing says they weren't working behind the scenes waiting for true authority 8:16 PM [Scooter] Exactly why your theory of coming in low is plausible 8:16 PM [Scooter] then wham 8:17 PM [Scooter] double up 8:17 PM [Chuckles] so they appointed a new m of oil but didnt restructure it first? 8:17 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 Agreed 8:17 PM [Eagleman] quantumforce1 Agreed but if I am going to take over something that large I am going to be in charge of the restructuring 8:17 PM [Scooter] I remember seeing something about that -- the law was written -- approved by council of ministers -- but not by parliament 8:17 PM [***ucme1stnow***] *omph* 8:17 PM [Chuckles] or is it the entire department> 8:17 PM [renros] Scooter Scooter how long do you think that Wham double up with take? 8:17 PM [Scooter] Eagleman 8:18 PM [Scooter] yep 8:18 PM [Scooter] Agreed 8:18 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] Well as we know.. they do a lot of dealing and negotiating outside of prying eyes... who knows how far they are already 8:18 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter similar to a new prez here being elected and spending those 80 days or so getting his first 100 days planned and ready to launch on day 1 8:18 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 yep 8:18 PM [Scooby Doo] Scooter is the John Madden of the RV 8:18 PM [Scooter] 8:18 PM [Scooter] I love Madden 8:19 PM [dinarette] Scooter based on what we saw today, the remainder of HCL could already be worked out, presented to parliament, and as fast as they can raise their hands, it's done! 8:21 PM [Eagleman] Scooter hmmmm 8:21 PM [Scooter] But it still doesn't split it 8:21 PM [Scooter] 8:22 PM [patriotic party girl] Scooter Scooter there was an srticle that i came across yesterday that had this info in it i wil try to find it tonight 8:22 PM [bigrocks85] well isit going to happen tonight 8:22 PM [patriotic party girl] article haha sorry 8:22 PM [***ucme1stnow***] quantumforce1 nice 8:22 PM [Scooter] While parliament has shown willingness to take the oil law’s passage seriously, it is not willing to be pushed around by the international community or those who wish to see quick passage. Members of Parliament understand the necessity and gravity of the issues, but they also understand their constitutional right to examine the document carefully. Some feel that there are other issues more urgent than an oil law. The majority argue that the law can and must be part of the solution to Iraq’s broader instability and is an essential part of the way forward, but only after thorough discussion. 8:23 PM [patriotic party girl] Scooter Scooter its was talking about all of these laws that you were just pointing to 8:23 PM [Scooter] WOW 8:24 PM [Eagleman] Scooter There it is!!! 8:24 PM [Scooter] That is telling me they are going to take their sweeet time 8:24 PM [wshflthnkn] It would be a serious mistake for Washington to abbreviate the process, just as it would be a serious mistake for Baghdad to allow it to drag on too long 8:24 PM [Scooter] did I read that wrong 8:24 PM [***ucme1stnow***] bigrocks85 least u were headed somewhere 8:24 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter hrmmmmmm well we have seen articles talking about them discussing it for the past 2 months but now that its official I guess they still need to take time. 8:24 PM [Scooter] patriotic party girl Exactly 8:24 PM [Eagleman] Scooter There is something big in that last post. 8:24 PM [Scooter] While parliament has shown willingness to take the oil law’s passage seriously, it is not willing to be pushed around by the international community or those who wish to see quick passage. Members of Parliament understand the necessity and gravity of the issues, but they also understand their constitutional right to examine the document carefully. Some feel that there are other issues more urgent than an oil law. The majority argue that the law can and must be part of the solution to Iraq’s broader instability and is an essential part of the way forward, but only after thorough discussion. 8:24 PM [bigrocks85] ***ucme1stnow*** i guess 8:25 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter I know that in an article in early december they said they woud "examine" the law "mid-month" 8:25 PM [Scooter] Eagleman I know 8:25 PM [Scooter] but I'm uncomfortable with that one 8:25 PM [quantumforce1] CarrieAnn maybe -- maybe not --- how much does it make the countrymen fell stable if they get all this up and running without any fighting or bickering????? 8:25 PM [Eagleman] They are not willing to be pushed around and so on... The people pushing are the investors and oil companies.... 8:25 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] If they were going to take their time for that, shouldnt they have waited a little longer to pass the GOI? 8:25 PM [Scooter] I know that SOMO has deployed the new measurment tools 8:25 PM [quantumforce1] And better yet -- the International community??? 8:25 PM [Scooter] Eagleman Exactly 8:26 PM [Eagleman] Scooter They will take their time in this because if they screw it up it would mean BIG problems 8:26 PM [CarrieAnn] quantumforce1 honestly I think this could happen more quickly than expected but we just wait and see. They have had this sucker around for a long time to look at... so who knows how it will play out. 8:26 PM [wshflthnkn] While it is vital that the oil package move forward, so that Iraqis (and Americans) can see tangible progress toward reconciliation, stabilization, and reconstruction, it is also important that the Iraqis own the process. It would be a serious mistake for Washington to abbreviate the process, just as it would be a serious mistake for Baghdad to allow it to drag on too long. 8:26 PM [quantumforce1] If I were ruler of all of Iraq -- I would have had all of this stuff ready and then come out ... strong, powerful, with a 1,2 punch like affect and get the ball rolling big time! 8:27 PM [frankc] Really now how difficult can it be to set percentages for oil sharing? 8:27 PM [Scooter] Eagleman Agreed 8:27 PM [Eagleman] 'frankc thats a HUGE problem, 8:27 PM [Scooter] I'm surprised the US or UN hasn't written this one for them 8:27 PM [Scooter] but again 8:27 PM [Scooter] they don't want interference 8:28 PM [Scooter] So 8:28 PM [frankc] Eagleman It's only as big a problem as they want to make it. 8:28 PM [Scooter] the question about HCL being required for the RV 8:28 PM [dflake] FoRgiVeN OnE Maliki had a time frame to meet or he would loss the PM post 8:28 PM [Scooter] is it required or not 8:28 PM [dflake] lose* 8:28 PM [Scooter] I say they are taking their time 8:28 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] dflake correct.. he still had till 25th 8:28 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter not only do they not want interference --- again, not good for the country to accept interference -- they need right now to show strength and unity 8:28 PM [Eagleman] frankc hmmmm this is Iraq after all.... they will ****** defeat out of the jaws of victory if they can 8:28 PM [lawdog32] i like the low initial RV theory. Even wtih percentages, you would think they would want a general idea on what dollar amount that translates to. 8:29 PM [dflake] FoRgiVeN OnE no way they would work thru this issue before 25th 8:29 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 Good Point 8:29 PM [quantumforce1] FoRgiVeN OnE -- didn't go to the last date show strength and unity 8:29 PM [bigrocks85] Scooter iraq people travel with a whole different clock 8:29 PM [frankc] Eagleman I agree, just saying it is not a difficult task but it sounds like they are going to make it difficult. 8:29 PM [quantumforce1] and they want the world stage 8:29 PM [Scooter] but wait a minute 8:30 PM [Scooter] let's loook at this from thier view 8:30 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] dflake Cant be sure about that... for all we know it could be done.... 8:30 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] we dont know for sure 8:30 PM [Scooter] They have a huge reserve of oil 8:30 PM [Scooter] they know it 8:30 PM [Scooter] how do they invest it 8:30 PM [dflake] Scooter is HCL required? 8:30 PM [dflake] FoRgiVeN OnE can't be sure of much at this point 8:30 PM [Scooter] dflake --- I don't think it's required based on that reading 8:30 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] dflake good point 8:30 PM [dflake] Scooter ty 8:31 PM [Scooter] but if the profits and splits aren't determined and the central government 8:31 PM [Scooter] is going to release the distributions 8:31 PM [Scooter] and oversight 8:31 PM [***ucme1stnow***] quantumforce1 ????? dont have any of those,,im married 8:31 PM [Scooter] this one is going to be knock down drag out fight 8:31 PM [Scooter] in parliament 8:31 PM [Eagleman] Scooter on the nose Scooter 8:31 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter --- that is how they got the cooperation of the government to join up -- those have already been negotiated over the last many months 8:31 PM [Scooter] but Eagleman's point is valid 8:32 PM [bigrocks85] Scooter exactly 8:32 PM [Scooter] it could be a double tranche -- or low to high maneuver 8:32 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] dflake I know its an emotional rollercoaster 8:32 PM [Eagleman] quantumforce1 I really do hope so, but efficiancy is not their strong point so far 8:32 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter -- to who's advantage is it now to fight it out? 8:32 PM [dflake] FoRgiVeN OnE no, one h*ll of a ride, weeeeeeeee 8:32 PM [Scooter] something we should keep in the back of our head 8:33 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 the Kurds 8:33 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] dflake 8:33 PM [dflake] well, i think we are all up to speed now 8:33 PM [Scooter] but again 8:33 PM [quantumforce1] Eagleman -- but with the election being undecided -- this might have been the push to negotiate and figure this out --- kinda the shot that got their attention 8:33 PM [Scooter] why would Talabani stand up and give that speach 8:33 PM [Scooter] I'll never forget it 8:33 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter -- The kurds are onboard with the gov -- right? 8:33 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] dflake I guess we were hoping to be able to hand both of our parents an envelope with a nive big check in it... 8:33 PM [Scooter] He almost said they are going to RV 8:33 PM [quantumforce1] They have reps 8:33 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] for Christmas 8:33 PM [Scooter] Exactly 8:33 PM [Scooter] something isn't adding up 8:33 PM [wshflthnkn] Shahristani believes contracts which the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has signed with foreign oil companies are illegal and his relations with the region are fraught. Kurdish lawmakers staged a brief parliamentary walkout last week when they learned Baghdad plans to dock the region’s share of federal revenues if it fails to produce oil for export next year. 8:34 PM [quantumforce1] wshflthnkn -- Last week 8:34 PM [dflake] wshflthnkn thats it, ty 8:34 PM [Scooter] wshflthnkn Exactly 8:34 PM [Scooter] they Kurds want their oil 8:34 PM [Scooter] and the rest of their share 8:34 PM [Scooter] 8:34 PM [Scooter] 8:34 PM [Eagleman] wshflthnkn yeah, your right 8:34 PM [wshflthnkn] quantumforce1 yes I know 8:35 PM [Eagleman] Scooter Okay here is the problem with the RV 8:35 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter -- what is better -- have oil and no 'real' value -- or oil with value --- it really does come down to money 8:35 PM [***ucme1stnow***] FoRgiVeN OnE my work here is done 8:35 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] tmn I think everyone is trying to catch what Scooter is saying 8:35 PM [Scooter] Eagleman ok 8:35 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 I concur with that thinking 8:35 PM [dflake] ***ucme1stnow*** 8:35 PM [Eagleman] They have painted themselves into a corner with the Tarifs if they dont get this worked out 8:35 PM [quantumforce1] take a worse case scenerio --- if they fight, no agreement, then break into a civil war -- who wins then???? a bird in the hand is better than two cows in the bush 8:35 PM [Scooter] get the money -- fix problems as we go 8:36 PM [Scooter] Eagleman ohhhhj 8:36 PM [Scooter] good point 8:36 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter -- bingo, bango, bongo!!! 8:36 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 8:36 PM [Eagleman] Scooter makes you scratch your head doesnt it... 8:36 PM [dflake] Eagleman wow, your on your game tonight 8:36 PM [Scooter] i'm scratching 8:36 PM [Scooter] i'm scratching 8:36 PM [Scooter] yes 8:36 PM [Eagleman] dflake Been away for a few days thinking about this 8:37 PM [Scooter] dflake He's always on his game 8:37 PM [quantumforce1] Eagleman Scooter -- must admit -- my thinking and talking this out ... kinda changes where I think they are now and how ready I do believe they probably (hopefully) are!!! 8:37 PM [dflake] Eagleman i did you good, keep thinking 8:37 PM [Scooter] don't let him fool ya 8:37 PM [Scooter] 8:37 PM [Scooter] 8:37 PM [RiverStyx] Correct me if I am wrong Scooter and you may have covered it as I just came in, but did not Shabibi say in the past that his intentions were to rv as soon or immediate following the seating? Immediate in Iraq = who knows but to that direction? 8:37 PM [CarrieAnn] quantumforce1 *gasp* youve joined the dark side!!!!!!!!!!! 8:38 PM [quantumforce1] The ball is just a bit brighter and clearer now!! 8:38 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 Makes ya do a double take hah 8:38 PM [Eagleman] Scooter naw, I am really not that bright. I just think how I would problem screw it up if I was in charge and so far they have proven that they are as dumb as me! 8:38 PM [Scooter] RiverStyx I heard that too 8:38 PM [RiverStyx] ok ty 8:38 PM [dflake] quantumforce1 really, mine looks like mud 8:38 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter -- yeah -- I keep thinking - what would I do?? Puts a different spin on things 8:38 PM [Scooter] Eagleman LMAO 8:39 PM [Scooter] FoRgiVeN OnE As far as I can see -- 8:39 PM [Scooter] anything can happen 8:39 PM [Ivanhoe] so....I heard it is supposed to be over 3. Is that the latest rumor? 8:39 PM [quantumforce1] I own a couple of business' -- and I love to have the plan worked out before I announce new events, upgrades, partnerships, rennovations, etc.... 8:39 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter Ok lets throw another topic into the mix... Paris Club... Do they want it done before Jan 1st or May 1st? 8:39 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 me too 8:39 PM [Scooter] I love to put the plan down on paper 8:39 PM [FoRgiVeN OnE] tmn I'd need new underwear if it was over $4 8:39 PM [Scooter] makes me think everything through 8:40 PM [quantumforce1] surprise is good -- as long as I am not Surprised! 8:40 PM [dflake] CarrieAnn first payment due in May 8:40 PM [Scooter] CarrieAnn Jan 1st 8:40 PM [Scooter] imo 8:40 PM [wshflthnkn] ok so in a nutshell what did we just discover? 8:40 PM [Eagleman] quantumforce1 its true, but then as a business owner you do not keep negotiating until the day before the product launch, which is what Iraq does EVERYTIME! 8:40 PM [Scooter] Eagleman very true 8:40 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter and all we really know is that they want "monetary reform" right? 8:41 PM [quantumforce1] Eagleman -- true that, but I also am not dealing with hundreds of humans and multiple factions that are wanting to put my head on their Christmas platter 8:41 PM [dflake] Scooter to join WTO, currency has to have at least a .01 value, correct?? 8:41 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter Scooter ok thx! Just making sure I hadnt missed something 8:42 PM [Scooter] dflake hmmmmmm -- I don't know about that one dflake 8:42 PM [Scooter] but it makes sense 8:42 PM [asiegel674] dflake not true, does not have tp be at $.01 8:42 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 8:42 PM [dinardragonfly] Scooter Scooter I thought you said Paris club payment in June 8:42 PM [Scooter] hey buddy 8:42 PM [asiegel674] Scooter sorry to come in late, thought you were traveling 8:42 PM [dflake] asiegel674 i'll catch you later on that, ty 8:42 PM [Scooter] dinardragonfly but they need to have the rate in the full years budget 8:42 PM [CarrieAnn] dflake cant be....I was just looking into that. Several countries are much lower and they are members 8:42 PM [Scooter] which starts Jan 1 8:43 PM [wshflthnkn] Scooter Eagleman ok so in a nutshell what did we just discover? 8:43 PM [asiegel674] dflake no worries, please do, its something that is pointed out alot but not accurate 8:43 PM [dinardragonfly] Scooter oh okay thanks 8:43 PM [quantumforce1] wshflthnkn -- Iraq is in the Middle East 8:43 PM [Eagleman] wshflthnkn RV before HCL = lower rate 8:43 PM [dflake] old!!! Scooter is old!!! lolo 8:43 PM [Scooter] I think we discovered that HCL isn't required to RV ---- but will have an effect on the rate 8:43 PM [***ucme1stnow***] tmn ur rich compared to me,,havent even bought a present yet and bouced 2 checks this week,,wooohooo 8:43 PM [Scooter] dinardragonfly np 8:43 PM [Scooter] icfaith hey young man 8:44 PM [icfaith] Scooter 8:44 PM [dflake] 8:44 PM [Scooter] 8:44 PM [asiegel674] Scooter i really think HCL is almost done 8:44 PM [icfaith] Scooter anything for good news tonight my friend? 8:44 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 spill it 8:44 PM [Scooter] talk 8:44 PM [Scooter] you have the floor 8:45 PM [asiegel674] Eagleman oh, sorry, we can cathc up later then, come see me at my place, I will be around 8:45 PM [Eagleman] asiegel674 Been having a masters level discussion on the HCL tonight. Very interesting. 8:45 PM [asiegel674] Scooter HCL was big on the Kurds list, List was supposedly signed off, if that is true and HCL was a big deal to them than they must have been happy with their cut of the HCL 8:45 PM [wshflthnkn] Eagleman Scooter Thanks for your help on this... 8:46 PM [Ivanhoe] 8:46 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 hmmmm -- I like the sound of that 8:46 PM [asiegel674] Scooter that is just my guess, we will see 8:46 PM [Scooter] that means the rate will be higher if passed soon 8:46 PM [Scooter] nice 8:46 PM [asiegel674] Scooter yes, would mean rate is higher, but what does that mean to us? hmmmmmmmmm 8:47 PM [Scooter] blame asiegel674 if it doesn't 8:47 PM [Scooter] 8:47 PM [Scooter] 8:47 PM [wood1521] Scooter Good evening and happy hoidays. 8:47 PM [Scooter] 8:47 PM [quantumforce1] Scooter -- maybe -- still go with a lower with a valuation up -- again, shows strength and puts a energizing light on them for investment and energy 8:47 PM [icfaith] asiegel674 can we explain the hcl for those that do not understand it 8:47 PM [Scooter] wood1521 wood1521 GE -- Happy holidays to you !! 8:47 PM [nene052700] Scooter I am ready for the post rv party/roast!!! 8:47 PM [asiegel674] Eagleman I think we are waiting on some things still, HCL to a vote, budget reading, and to be honest, I am thinking we may see parliment vote on giving Shad the right to RV 8:47 PM [quantumforce1] The happening thing - The Next Big place to Build and Invest -- A sure thing 8:48 PM [Scooter] nene052700 ohhhh REally 8:48 PM [Scooter] and how will you roast me 8:48 PM [nene052700] Scooter YES!! 8:48 PM [Scooter] I'm not going 8:48 PM [Scooter] 8:48 PM [icfaith] Scooter 8:48 PM [nene052700] Scooter oh yeah???!!!! 8:48 PM [asiegel674] Eagleman, lets see if they have learned from our congress about sneaking things into bills and documents 8:48 PM [Eagleman] asiegel674 I have been away for a few days. How many times have they read the budget so far? 8:48 PM [icfaith] Scooter we gonna hog tie ya 8:48 PM [quantumforce1] wshflthnkn 8:48 PM [asiegel674] Eagleman once 8:48 PM [wood1521] Scooter Last i saw of you was at 4:00 about a week ago. howes it going. 8:48 PM [asiegel674] from what I am told and hve read 8:48 PM [nene052700] Scooter we will still roast you!!! 8:48 PM [Chuckles] Scooter HD will make u 8:49 PM [tmn] no im laughing i just wasnt sure what exactly u meant but trust me im the only girl and the baby im gonna be set hahaha 8:49 PM [Scooter] wood1521 4:00 am 8:49 PM [Cherysh] larrylopiccolo lmao....oh hunny, I am just being light hearted, I actually laughed out loud about it..lol 8:49 PM [icfaith] asiegel674 yes once so far 8:49 PM [asiegel674] CA and PPG are way better at research than me 8:49 PM [Scooter] yep 8:49 PM [wood1521] AM 8:49 PM [Scooter] 8:49 PM [Scooter] Chuckles nope 8:49 PM [patriotic party girl] Scooter icfaith is springing for the stretch hummer we are renting for the roast with an open bar hah a 8:49 PM [Eagleman] asiegel674 unbelievable.... 8:49 PM [dflake] asiegel674 does the budget have to be read 3 times, i thought i saw that rule on the Parliment Website 8:49 PM [asiegel674] Scooter you in Louisville? 8:49 PM [Scooter] I'll be hiding from him 8:49 PM [Scooter] 8:49 PM [quantumforce1] Wait .. am I sacastic? 8:49 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 I am 8:49 PM [asiegel674] dflake yes,, it is supposed to be 8:49 PM [Scooter] came in today 8:49 PM [lawdog32] So asiegel674, you thinking RV this year or next year more likely? 8:49 PM [Chuckles] Scooter ill see what he says about that how is he havent seen him in awhile? 8:49 PM [dflake] asiegel674 k 8:49 PM [tmn] cdr im too old for mommy and daddy to giv me mony but they planned how they were gonna giv me and my bro money i didnt ask for it 8:49 PM [asiegel674] Scooter good, buy me a bat, may need to knock some sense into someone 8:49 PM [icfaith] Scooter we sutured a GPS on you behind while you was sick 8:49 PM [Scooter] Chuckles spoke to him twice today 8:50 PM [Scooter] he's really busy on two major projects 8:50 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 nope 8:50 PM [Scooter] bourbon 8:50 PM [Scooter] 8:50 PM [Scooter] ok 8:50 PM [Scooter] a bat too 8:50 PM [Scooter] dangerous combination 8:50 PM [quantumforce1] Hey -- who was the person on here that over an hour ago said that within the next hour the RV would happen???? We need to talk! 8:50 PM [asiegel674] 8:50 PM [Scooter] icfaith 8:50 PM [dflake] Scooter Scooter where is HD, haven't seen em lately? 8:51 PM [Scooter] He'll be on tonight 8:52 PM [quantumforce1] keepmwlknfny --- bottom line --- not really sure anymore --- I think by Dec 31 we will know if it will happen in 2010 or not 8:53 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 I think the trigger has been given ----- I think we are just finishing after trigger work ---- 8:53 PM [Scooter] imo 8:53 PM [Scooter] so 8:53 PM [Scooter] two years out 8:53 PM [icfaith] asiegel674 amen 8:53 PM [Scooter] my early prediction 8:53 PM [Scooter] 8:53 PM [Scooter] 8:53 PM [Scooter] 8:53 PM [Scooter] sorry 8:53 PM [Scooter] 8:53 PM [larrylopiccolo] Scooter u think we r 2 years out still 8:53 PM [Scooter] no rates or dates from scoot 8:54 PM [Scooter] 8:54 PM [Scooter] larrylopiccolo noooo 8:54 PM [Eagleman] CarrieAnn Scooter asiegel674 and everyone else it has been fun but I have to go spend sometime with the most beautiful woman in the world 8:54 PM [Scooter] Eagleman Have a great evening my friend 8:54 PM [Scooter] as usual 8:54 PM [Scooter] you make me think 8:54 PM [Scooter] Love the conversations 8:54 PM [quantumforce1] asiegel674 -- no one can give a date -- heck, not sure the Iraqi Government can precisely give that out yet 8:54 PM [Eagleman] Talk to you all tomorrow! 8:54 PM [keepmwlknfny] Scooter Scooter Scooter what you doin on the east coast? 8:54 PM [Scooter] have a great evening 8:54 PM [dflake] Eagleman later thanks 8:54 PM [Scooter] keepmwlknfny 8:55 PM [Scooter] Christmas 8:55 PM [Eagleman] quantumforce1 Me too 8:55 PM [keepmwlknfny] Scooter Scooter where at? 8:55 PM [asiegel674] Scooter FYI, after cleaning up your mess from last week you better not give a rate or a date or I am going to buy HD a bat for christmas 8:55 PM [Scooter] asiegel674 LMAO 8:55 PM [quantumforce1] asiegel674 -- mess -- do tell!! 8:55 PM [quantumforce1] Color Change 8:55 PM [quantumforce1] Done 8:55 PM [dflake] is anyone posting this, i don't want to have to try to recite it all night 8:56 PM [asiegel674] Scooter $7+ and by the 23rd is what people heard, but it wasnt what my dear friend Scooter said 8:56 PM [Scooter] What 8:56 PM [Scooter] are you serious 8:56 PM [Scooter] no way 8:56 PM [icfaith] dflake no we all placed dibbs on you recieting it all night 8:56 PM [CarrieAnn] dflake if not then Im outta here! Youre on your own! 8:56 PM [Scooter] was that the late night chat 8:56 PM [Scooter] 3:30 am 8:56 PM [dflake] CarrieAnn i'm with you 8:56 PM [asiegel674] Scooter early morning, you were sleep walking again 8:56 PM [Scooter] I was sleep walking 8:56 PM [Scooter] 8:56 PM [Scooter] 8:57 PM [cross5] I had a friend recieve a 250 dinar note in the mail from an insurance company. Saying he could get rich. Has anybody seen this? 8:57 PM [Scooter] Hey -- that GDP Deflator is well documented 8:57 PM [Scooter] 8:57 PM [Scooter] 8:57 PM [asiegel674] Scooter you blew poor Chris S's mind so much he hasnt been back in chat since 8:57 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter it would help if people learned how to read before reading your chats... May prevent confusion. 8:57 PM [Niko] what up room 8:58 PM [Scooter] He's a college student 8:58 PM [cross5] He said he got it yesterday 8:58 PM [Scooter] he's partying 8:58 PM [Scooter] bright kid 8:58 PM [Scooter] I like him 8:58 PM [asiegel674] Scoter you scared him 8:58 PM [dflake] Scooter yes he is, on both points 8:58 PM [Scooter] niko 8:58 PM [Scooter] niko 8:58 PM [Scooter] niko 8:58 PM [Scooter] niko 8:58 PM [nene052700] Scooter reminds him of someone you know?! 8:58 PM [Scooter] What's up brother 8:58 PM [Scooter] nene052700 who 8:58 PM [dflake] quantumforce1 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 8:58 PM [Scooter] 8:58 PM [Scooter] 8:58 PM [Scooter] 8:59 PM [quantumforce1] dflake --- no way -- they are all too excited - they get to build a NATION 8:59 PM [nene052700] Scooter the drinking college student....! 8:59 PM [dflake] quantumforce1 yea, breakfast and prayer first 8:59 PM [quantumforce1] icfaith --- we need to get together 8:59 PM [Scooter] nene052700 I think I'm still playing that game 8:59 PM [Scooter] maybe 8:59 PM [nene052700] Scooter 8:59 PM [Scooter] nope 9:00 PM [icfaith] Scooter hey a merry christmas to you and you family dear friend 9:00 PM [Scooter] ok -- I need to take a break -- be back later 9:00 PM [Scooter] icfaith You tooo 9:00 PM [Scooby Doo] later Scooter 9:00 PM [Niko] later scoot 9:00 PM [Scooter] Merry Christmas 9:00 PM [CarrieAnn] Scooter thanks for the great chat 9:00 PM [quantumforce1] Adios Scootman 9:00 PM [dflake] Scooter thank you for your input, gn 9:00 PM [jlassociates] Scooter u too 9:00 PM [nene052700] Scooter Merry Christmas!!! 9:00 PM [asiegel674] Scooter and now the room can go back to a manageable level 9:00 PM [FishMan1969] Scooter Scooter Scooter Merry Christmas 9:00 PM [SailorDave] Scooter Merry Christmas 9:00 PM [candysajoy] Scooter merry cr 9:01 PM [Butifldrm] Scooter merry Christmas 9:01 PM [Scooter] Scooby Doo Niko quantumforce1 CarrieAnn dflake jlassociates nene052700 asiegel674 SailorDave FishMan1969 SailorDave candysajoy Merry Christmas 9:01 PM [Scooter] quantumforce1 9:01 PM [Scooter] poof
    5 points
  35. IMO.....I THINK LESS THAN 5% OF THE US POPULATION KNOW ABOUT THE IRAQI DINAR AND THATS PROBABLY OVER ESTIMATING
    5 points
  36. All I can say is that I am sitting in Baghdad at this moment. When the GOI was passed on the news guns went off all over town in celebration. I read this Okie's great news last night and immediately opened the door to my little domain and I can tell you that there was no invite to a party, no noise of a party, and no word of Iraqi's partying in the streets. Keep in mind that I am surrounded by six figure contractors dieing to leave here retired. That was just a cruel joke on everyones emotions or a very very poorly non-thought-out decision to mention such an R/V.
    5 points
  37. I also will say you are wrong. sonny1 is probably one of the level headed persons on this site and does not try to feed us a bunch of stuff through rose colored glasses like so many do. I appreciate sonny1 coming in to share with us, his thoughts and feeling about what he knows, and has heard from others, that he trusts. RV - Revalue or Increase the value of their currency to me mean all the same and there was a post mentioning raising the value of the dinar once the GOI was completed. By the way I am not going to go and look up these posts for you they are all there for anyone to find on their own.
    5 points
  38. HDWENCH is right on the money !!! Ive been in this investment since 2004, to many experts to name from Shotgun susie to all the present day gurus........hell ive heard OKIE works in a grocery store!!!! maybe a head of lettuce is giving him intel.................No disrespect to anyone , Just saying dont believe everything you read here.
    5 points
  39. I stated this in another thread but it's important to point out so I'll post it here too. Okie says his intel told him Article 40 of the Iraqi constitution requires an immediate RV after the GOI forms. It turned out that Article 40 of the constitution says nothing about an RV. Some said that it was a mix up and that it was the 40th item on the PM's list but that didn't pan out either. It turns out that the Article 40 rumor came from a post on a dinar site that was totally wrong and that's Okie's "intel". This confirms what many have suspected all along about Okie (and other gurus) that he takes what he reads and tweaks it and then calls it his intel. True intel is real people close to the action getting solid info from people involved in the situation, not grabbing somebody else's rumor off of a dinar site. To claim that as intel is dishonest.
    5 points
  40. AC--If this is some kind of veiled attempt to disguise your recent inaccurate pessimistic projections - let me be the 1st to clue you in - it was an abject failure - a simple mea culpa would suffice, although prohibitive by one not so small component - your ego.
    5 points
  41. AC I hear crow isnt all that bad!!....................................GO RV 2010 BABY!!!!!!!
    5 points
  42. Scooter is someone who has done an amazing amount of research on the dinar and Iraqi politics. You would do well to research and read his post before commenting aggressively.
    5 points
  43. This is going nowhere. I am shutting this thread down. It takes me less than 2 seconds to get past the pics. I can't believe that an adult would whine about something as trivial as this. some people here need to grow up, and fast.
    5 points
  44. This is the most encouraging post since ive been involved with this investment.The man with the power to make the changes speaking about making the changes within 24hrs of the goi being announced.Shabibi has stated he will give the goi the new rate as soon as they are officially seated.Today they were seated and already he'stalking about the rv procedure and it's affects on the Iraqi economy.Carlablum posted this as well .I hope it's posted ten times over because this is the best new's this investment has seen to date ,barr none! Great post ! I hope the next few day's see Shabibi do that thing he long's to do! GO Rv. RI.
    5 points
  45. Agreed!!!! Everybody just likes to start bashing. This is the rumors section. Disagreement is one thing, hostility and belittlement is another :bulb: Adam, how about a bashing section? You set one up for opinions and they still bash there as well I think we need a bashing section But, it might not last long since it's- RRRRVVVVVVV T T T T T T T T T I I I I I I I I I M M M M M M M M M E E E E E E E E E E :woot:
    5 points
  46. It's OK it's pretty easy to read things the wrong way on the Internet! No harm no foul.
    5 points
  47. December 21st, 2010 01:27 pm · Posted in CHATS / POSTS I have been in the banking world for over 30 years and am now retired. I find it amazing that people think that when a government or “Federal Reserve” takes larger bills out of circulation they don’t honor them anymore. The reality is the Federal Reserve of the U.S. took out of circulation the $1,000 and $500 dollar bills many years ago, but if you happen to own one or more you can turn it in to any bank or credit union and you will get the full amount, then that financial institution then is supposed to send it in to the Fed to have it destroyed, but as many of us that work or have worked in financial institutions, it many times does not even get sent to the Fed as many executives and employees will buy these bills at face value and keep them in their safe deposit boxes as they are worth more than their face value to a numismatis(sp) or money collector. Hopefully, we will all benefit from cashing in our large Dinar, but maybe keeping one or two may look further down the road to collectors and have a little fun with the money later!!! Just FYI and I am amazed that this has not been brought up prior to this, maybe it has and you haven’t felt the need to post it on your site. I just thought this would alay some of the fear of those that think we will only have a very short window to cash in!! After all why would a powerful country, like Iraq will be in the near future, want to not accept their own currency????
    4 points
  48. OK, really? This is ridiculous. Here is my take...I believe the bank employees here who tell us that this kind of "event" would only be known about at the highest levels. I also believe that if the "event " were on the horizon, at some point the bank employees would be alerted to SOMETHING. It would be within days and not weeks of this "event". This "event" is the RV of course. here is what is crystal clear, to me anyway. Just like any financial consultant, investment banker, etc....they are bound to not advise you on investment strategies. they cannot tell you whether this is a good stock or bad stock to invest in, they are simply not allowed to do this. It seems plausible to me that any bank employee at any given branch would fall under the same guidelines. Also, the letter from BOA Foreign Currency dept is so canned, it's obvious that they will not open themselves legally to anyone's claim that they invested in the dinar and lost thousands because some ****** at BOA said it was a investment they supported or a currency they eventually had plans to exchange. Right no it is so clear this is going to happen, but don't forget about the legal side of this. Legally, these banks are doing what their attorneys are telling them to do in case the worst can happen and some employee tell a customer to come back Monday and that customer invests too much and files a claim against that bank. I'm not a financial or legal professional, but logic tells me this is true. Everyone is acting like the dinar investment is a scam now, but the elephant is in the room and let me ask you this. Let's say you visit BOA and "Bill" the bank manager tells you that the exchange is happening Monday. What if "Bill" buys 10 million on Thursday and cashes in on Monday, isn't that going to be a problem for the securities and exchange commission much like insider trading? I agree that a friend of a friend or some such might leak something, but let's respect their privacy. The implications of any of these employees telling us anything is quite interesting, but I expect them to protect themselves and stay hush.
    4 points
  49. MORE BS FOLKS!! I AM HERE IN IRAQ AND JUST WENT TO FINANCE OFFICE ON BASE TODAY AND 3 OF US BOUGHT DINAR AT THE USUAL RATE. SO I WOULD TOTALLY IGNORE WHOEVER GAVE THAT INFO FOR THE REST OF MY DAYS. FULL OF IT. HANG TIGHT ALL IT WILL HAPPEN, BUT NOW YOU KNOW WHO TO ELIMINATE AS RELIABLE WHEN THEY POST STUPID STUFF AGAIN. IF YA WANT THE TRUTH, WRITE ME AND ASK FOLKS, WE ARE HERE IN IRAQ.[
    4 points


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