Georgia Court Ruled Against Obama

[DinarMillionaire]

I have no reason to name call or disrespect because we differ in opinion, I place my facts dinarmillionaire places his facts and we compare we may not agree on what comes out but we do learn from each other point of view.

I'll give a +1 to that Weapon X. Ut oh, something we agree on.

[divemaster5734]

Enough with the weak analogies and your constant pouting!

Did my statement suggest past presidents actions justify it all? NO NO Hell NO! I replied to your POST 89! I suggested you're perhaps more emotionally engaged in this president's term. Therefore, you see more and hear more.

But why haven't you answered the question then?

If I am more engaged now than before it is only because I see this country still falling rapidly, and am afraid we will soon pass a point of no return without far more drastic actions taken.

Do I see and hear more? Probably, so why is that bad?

You imply that it is somehow wrong to be upset with the corruption and lies, why is that?

So what do you suggest now that more of the POTUS unconstitutional actions are brought to light?

I do not say any of this to attack YOU, you are my fellow American, without whom we cannot dig ourselves out of the hole that we are in.

I get the impression you are only upset when discussing Obama, why are we supposed to accept lies from him easier than lies from Bush?

With Bush, moderate Democrats believed it was the Republicans fault, now with the new boss being the same as the old boss all Americans are now free to think for themselves and separate themselves from the partisan division that has been destroying this nation.

That's what I am about.

There is one race, the HUMAN race, we are all Americans, not democrat, not republican.

As soon as that is understood we can begin to work together.

Edited January 6, 2012 by divemaster5734

[Markinsa]

I hope that's not directed at my comment... I stated these arguments are nothing new.

Nope, wasn't directed at you as individual but all of us American Citizens. We need to start holding their feet over the fire to get them to do their jobs. I'm tired of the corruption and self serving attitudes in our government. They're not there to make themselves wealthy; they are there to serve us.

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[sportfisher]

Enough with the weak analogies and your constant pouting!

Did my statement suggest past presidents actions justify it all? NO NO Hell NO! I replied to your POST 89! I suggested you're perhaps more emotionally engaged in this president's term. Therefore, you see more and hear more.

The internet doesn't reveal anything --- people who control blogs with unsubstantiated news is tainting and dividing the country.

BTW: How does a Christian act? Give something hard and definite. When it comes down to it, Christian is as hard to describe as a natural born citizen. Besides the simple facts of a Christian, you will only give your opinions of a Christian.

Everyone believes they're right and have something good to say that's convincing to the other side. I don't think that's happening here lately.

I hope that's not directed at my comment... I stated these arguments are nothing new.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

what a joke

[tandy]

shucky durn...I hope you folks know I didn't mean to sound like I was lecturing you about your obligations or responsibilities...but like some of you have stated already it doesn't matter which side some of these presidents come from...they are still in it for the NWO and we may as well wake up to one fact that is staring us all in the face...they are the ones that are purposely dividing us...we need to unite as one entity, kick these lying, manipulting career politicians out of office (while we still can) and restore this great country to the principles it was founded on!!!

Hey when this thinggy rv"s all 36,000 of you are invited to my house for ham breakfast...on second thought...lol but you are all appreciated for your input.... after all...your opinion is important to you!

(doggone...that would take a lot of ham)

[Dwight Vincent]

Georgia is my kind of state.

[mojack]

Dive - don't assume anymore than what I directly say. Block out your assumptions - sometimes!

Do you realize you're suggesting gutting the constitution to make you happy. How are your changes implemented without changing the power of the office, therefore changing the constitution?

I don't have as many complaints as you do. Simple as that! Ok

[divemaster5734]

Dive - don't assume anymore than what I directly say. Block out your assumptions - sometimes!

Do you realize you're suggesting gutting the constitution to make you happy. How are your changes implemented without changing the power of the office, therefore changing the constitution?

I don't have as many complaints as you do. Simple as that! Ok

Actually, not gutting the constitution, but enforcing it.

The feds were given two basic tasks, the third party referee in matters of interstate commerce, and patrolling the waterways.

They have been overreaching in their power grabs, and that has been the core problem.

Look up their Amish farmer raids.

The whole reason for the 4am raids is because after they sell milk to a customer that customer MIGHT take the milk to another state.

How can the farmer possibly be held responsible for what someone does with their product?

The feds have gone from occasional dispute arbitrators to regulating everything we can or cannot purchase and deciding what "truth" our kids learn in school.

The feds only mission is to justify it's own existence, and that has been the core of the individual Americans problem.

Left/right politics have only been a useful tool to divide us and allow the feds to step in and take control of our lives.

That is what has to end.

Edited January 6, 2012 by divemaster5734

[mojack]

Actually, not gutting the constitution, but enforcing it.

The feds were given two basic tasks, the third party referee in matters of interstate commerce, and patrolling the waterways.

They have been overreaching in their power grabs, and that has been the core problem.

Look up their Amish farmer raids.

The whole reason for the 4am raids is because after they sell milk to a customer that customer MIGHT take the milk to another state.

How can the farmer possibly be held responsible for what someone does with their product?

The feds have gone from occasional dispute arbitrators to regulating everything we can or cannot purchase and deciding what "truth" our kids learn in school.

The feds only mission is to justify it's own existence, and that has been the core of the individual Americans problem.

Left/right politics have only been a useful tool to divide us and allow the feds to step in and take control of our lives.

That is what has to end.

You sharply digress.

Edited January 6, 2012 by mojack

[grand pubah]

With you until the last part... your statement fits the bill for the majority of our previous political leaders. I have spent many years doing all of these things but it does not prepare me to lead a country. It hasn't been and is not a prerequisite to lead a country. Leadership is the ability to motivate a group of people toward a common goal. Whether it's to protect the general welfare of people and country, make the payroll, inventory and materials, taxes, raise capital or paying salaries.

Mojack I agree with you to a point. Leadership is also more than motivating people to a certain goal. Hitler did that but had the wrong set of values that led his country into ruin.

Running a business does not qualify anyone for presidency and not my point. I know a number of business men who I would never want to be prez. My point is that it is certainly beneficial to have had some practical fiscal experience on the ground and the experience of what and how it works before trying to run something the size of a country.

There are hundreds of thousands of business startups that go under every year because the owner operators lacked understanding of how to make it work. Maybe it was a great product or service but lacking in good management of resources, lack of fiscal responsibility, getting in over their head too fast because they didn't understand certain business fundamentals, taking on too much debt too fast, not reserving capital for unforeseen expenses, ect... the list goes on.

But I do understand your point.

GP

[mojack]

Mojack I agree with you to a point. Leadership is also more than motivating people to a certain goal. Hitler did that but had the wrong set of values that led his country into ruin.

Running a business does not qualify anyone for presidency and not my point. I know a number of business men who I would never want to be prez. My point is that it is certainly beneficial to have had some practical fiscal experience on the ground and the experience of what and how it works before trying to run something the size of a country.

There are hundreds of thousands of business startups that go under every year because the owner operators lacked understanding of how to make it work. Maybe it was a great product or service but lacking in good management of resources, lack of fiscal responsibility, getting in over their head too fast because they didn't understand certain business fundamentals, taking on too much debt too fast, not reserving capital for unforeseen expenses, ect... the list goes on.

But I do understand your point.

GP

Thanks -

There's no 2 sides about leadership. Let's not confuse leadership with values.

I agree with your last paragraph... There aren't many jobs that can prepare a person for running a country. People with good business acumen can also fail even with good advisors/directors. Several outside intangibles (an elephant) can effect any product, service or management decision.

There was a burning train (8 years Bush/Cheney) coming down the track (Outsourcing of America Jobs/loss of American jobs) and approaching 4 bends in the rail (America Financial Industry failing + America Auto Industry failing + debt ceiling + recession). That big 3 failing would cause even more job loss. Now we have a 10 year Iraq War + another war in Afghanistan (the real target and not WMD in Iraq). Well, hell, there wasn't an easy answer... Not easy things to slow down - don't even mention stopping the damn train. But you do your best (your best isn't good enough to stop the train but let's slow it down before it surely derails (America Bankruptcy).

American people breathing down your neck because they're still not happy (need a job). Terrorist running amok. Not enough income to pay America's bills. Damn, have to borrow from the Chinese again. Damn, why can't we ask the haves to pay a fair share of their taxes.

Do you think 3 years can turn this around? Do you think the most clever CEO could have resolved all of these things while his co-workers, a rather large elephant, has declared to not cooperate and let's make sure his policies fail by demonizing any decisions using organized blogs and email?

O did not divide the country anymore than the 2 parties have always done. There are 2 parties... 1+1 = 2, not 1, unless it's a binary system. The country was designed to be divided. Sometimes the best decisions come from this existence.

Maybe a grand pubah can do it

[Usaok]

Obama is a socialist and tyrant Period . Get your heads out of your as es . The problem is you in America are generations of blame someone else . Obama has had 3 years , bush is gone . This is happening on his watch , Stop blaming others for this poor excuse of a mans fault . He has added 8 trillion to our deficit , he did . The health care bill , why do you think he did not want others to read it , so much for mr transparency ,2500 pages , do you smell a fish , yes we the American public are the foolish fish . Our military is being dismantled in a time of absolute need of a strong broad military . Check out google obamas civillian military . This man wants us weak and dependant on the government , hence , communism . Still don't see and get it .. We need to be strong , close or limit our immigration , build a fence to keep terrorist with nukes out , term limits for politicians so no one is embedded , you don't get a bigger check when you have more unwed children , get a job . If you have worked all you life no u should not be forced to give your hard earned dollars to a want something for nothing slug . Get a job . These are just a very few things obamacide wants for my country . You don't like this country Obama and the rest , get the f out . Vote this tyrant out and elect a man of honesty and loyalty to this country highest position .. We are running out of time and freedom and money .....wake up please , our freedom is being covertly taken away ... An old marine. ...

[mojack]

Obama is a socialist and tyrant Period . Get your heads out of your as es . The problem is you in America are generations of blame someone else . Obama has had 3 years , bush is gone . This is happening on his watch , Stop blaming others for this poor excuse of a mans fault . He has added 8 trillion to our deficit , he did . The health care bill , why do you think he did not want others to read it , so much for mr transparency ,2500 pages , do you smell a fish , yes we the American public are the foolish fish . Our military is being dismantled in a time of absolute need of a strong broad military . Check out google obamas civillian military . This man wants us weak and dependant on the government , hence , communism . Still don't see and get it .. We need to be strong , close or limit our immigration , build a fence to keep terrorist with nukes out , term limits for politicians so no one is embedded , you don't get a bigger check when you have more unwed children , get a job . If you have worked all you life no u should not be forced to give your hard earned dollars to a want something for nothing slug . Get a job . These are just a very few things obamacide wants for my country . You don't like this country Obama and the rest , get the f out . Vote this tyrant out and elect a man of honesty and loyalty to this country highest position .. We are running out of time and freedom and money .....wake up please , our freedom is being covertly taken away ... An old marine. ...

Man you have been severely led astray. Read more carefully - was not blaming - these were the things America was facing prior to BO taking office. "burning train (8 years Bush/Cheney) coming down the track (Outsourcing of America Jobs/loss of American jobs) and approaching 4 bends in the rail (America Financial Industry failing + America Auto Industry failing + debt ceiling + recession)."

Take any of your statements and ask 2 questions: Does it make sense for someone who we vote into office? How would O benefit from any of these things? Did O coin welfare?

[DinarMillionaire]

Man you have been severely led astray. Read more carefully - was not blaming - these were the things America was facing prior to BO taking office. "burning train (8 years Bush/Cheney) coming down the track (Outsourcing of America Jobs/loss of American jobs) and approaching 4 bends in the rail (America Financial Industry failing + America Auto Industry failing + debt ceiling + recession)."

Take any of your statements and ask 2 questions: Does it make sense for someone who we vote into office? How would O benefit from any of these things? Did O coin welfare?

Mojack, I noticed you speak of Bush outsourcing jobs. What do you think of Obama's "Jobs Czar" Jeffrey Immelt CEO of G.E. moving G.E to China? Isn't a U.S. "Job Czar" suppose to be creating jobs in America, not China? What does that say about his dedication to America? Maybe you could enlighten me. I haven't heard Czar Immelt has created any jobs in the U.S..

[mojack]

Mojack, I noticed you speak of Bush outsourcing jobs. What do you think of Obama's "Jobs Czar" Jeffrey Immelt CEO of G.E. moving G.E to China? Isn't a U.S. "Job Czar" suppose to be creating jobs in America, not China? What does that say about his dedication to America? Maybe you could enlighten me. I haven't heard Czar Immelt has created any jobs in the U.S..

Bush didn't outsource jobs; I think they could have held those companies to certain penalties.

I'm aware G.E.'s position and I saw the CEO speak of the jobs on 60 minutes. He spoke about creating more jobs in America. Some things were already in the works... They may be moving G.E X-ray headquarters to Beijing which has about 120 employees. I wouldn't fret too much about 120 jobs when they can create thousands more. And of course, you can't choke capitalism.

Immelt confirmed that 60% of GE's forecast $145 billion in revenue this year will come from outside U.S. borders. But nearly 46% of the company's employees are based within the U.S. and Immelt plans to grow that number as the conglomerate capitalizes on "tremendous demand" for heavy machinery abroad. According to Immelt, GE has streamlined its manufacturing processes to such an extent that labor now makes up only 10% to 20% of its cost of goods sold.

As Mesirow Financial chief economist Diane Swonk observed on Meet the Press on Sunday, America is currently enjoying "a renaissance in the manufacturing sector." It's not across-the-board -- Honeywell's (NYSE: HON ) CEO also appeared on television yesterday, for example, and he's been less upbeat on hiring. But heavy manufacturers such as Caterpillar (NYSE: CAT ) , which does more than half its business abroad, and automakers Ford (NYSE: F ) and General Motors (NYSE: GM ) , which are close to 50-50, are all earning good money abroad. And yes -- they're accelerating hiring in the U.S.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/07/18/general-electric-and-american-jobs.aspx

Edited January 7, 2012 by mojack

[tarsi]

Mojack, don't waste your time with the fanatics, its a complete waste of time trying to communicate with uneducated individuals(this is in no means refering to anyone's intelligence, but instead about there knowledge on a particular subject). you and Grand pubah had a very healthy and I might add respectable debate going, then of course here come the hate mongers blowing it all up and taking it into an entirly diffrent direction, making it personal( thats where the hate shines thru), but they still don't get it. Everything is BO fault he created ALL of America's problems and this entire 16T debt is all him, has nothing to with the two wars that was costing US the American citizens over 1.2B a week and thats just the soft cost, now just 6 mos. ago they were all screaming this needs to end they promised this war would'nt cost us anything it needs to end now, what happens he brings them all home and guess what he wrong for that now as well and never mind that EVERY war/military professional has come out in the last few days and said its the right thing to do to cut back on our military size, the only problem is its BO thats doing it, but of course these brilliant military minds on this site know better, aren't we luck to have them here interacting with us man how did we get so lucky. So my point is don't waste your time, cause this isnt your country right, just like its not BO country, and because you don't hate and loathe him as they do that makes you a communist, far left, un American......... Peace my fellow American and so you know I feel you man!!!!!!!! and really have been enjoying the good clean debate between you and grand pubah, really good to see healthy disagreement without disrespect........... wow funny how thats what they claim to be so upset over is our government(oops sorry meant Obama) is trying to take away from us......... so who is the communist here.

[Eagle007]

Yeap

the first black president and all you hicks can think of is he's not american. Get a life get a job! We had George W. Bush ...Mr. I have a degree from Yale but can't make a simple sentence after four years. Or William "can't keep it in my pants" Clinton. What the hell. the entire political system is broken and if a single incumbent win in the upcoming elections we are all idiots...,...No I don't feel strongly that America which I love is broken.....Every fricken politician should be held to a double term if they are good and then you earn a living like the rest of us hard working Americans.

Not a sermon just a thought (can you name that saying). Leave it to Georgia to challenge the only black president....Something never change...ooops did I really say that.

Eagle007

[grand pubah]

I appreciate having my views challenged in a respectful way. Many people see it as a personal attack but that is how we grow and learn. Hard lessons that don't come easy.

I do believe that there have been many mistakes made by several of our last presidents that have helped lead us down the road we now find ourselves in. I do not believe President Obama is the fault for all our problems.

What probably concerns me most are what I view as decisions by him and other presidents that have basically done nothing but try to keep the temporary damage to a minimum for their political well being and polling results even if it would cause more damage down the road.

Our country is well on the road to bankruptcy and it would seem many in Washington are simply trying to salvage their careers rather than doing what is best for our country. I believe that is true of many politicians on both sides of the aisle.

The fact is that serious cuts have to be made in our national budget because we are borrowing against our future like Greece and several of the Euro nations have done without any plan on how to repay the debt but rather have developed a lifestyle of living off continuing and burgeoning debt. That can only last so long and it will bankrupt any home, business, or country.

Much of the rioting, violence, and protests in those countries we see now is because now the Gov't is forced to make those cuts because they can't pay their bills and people have become so accustomed to the reckless gov't spending and handouts that they are protesting that the cuts are being made and someone has to be blamed.

This is what our gov't is trying to avoid from happening. Only the longer they delay in making the fiscal adjustments necessary the worse it will be down the road a bit for our country and for everyone.

We need people in office who are not as worried about re-election as they are about doing what is best for the long term well being of our country.

I have learned the hard way that to delay making the hard decisions that have to made because you know it will cause temporary hardships to people you care about and be unpopular only ends up causing the problem to become worse. Man I hate having to make those kind of decisions!

I do strongly believe not to balance our national budget, to have a plan for how to pay down our debt, and strict legislation requirements that force our gov't to live within our means will only lead us into the inevitable economic collapse we are seeing in Europe now.

I do like Obama, I just don't agree with his strategy on fiscal policy (and a few other things I hold dear as nonnegotiable values that I won't go into at this time)

I know I thank God that I am not the one in the oval office right now. It is a lose lose situation.

Either to ad to the collapse of our nation or to commit political suicide.

I think many are blinded by party affiliation and we see everyday a bunch of political posturing that is all about pols and election results rather than true results.

There are times my frustration has come out and I have not been as respectful of the office as I should have been. I mean no ill will toward Pres. Obama or his family. He is my president.

But I definitely will not vote to re-elect him. I do hope my democratic friends and my black friends will not take that personal.

GP

[TPSprayduster]

No one should personal GP, your vote, your business, your right. I respect that any day of the week.

Obama is a socialist and tyrant Period . Get your heads out of your as es . The problem is you in America are generations of blame someone else . Obama has had 3 years , bush is gone . This is happening on his watch , Stop blaming others for this poor excuse of a mans fault . He has added 8 trillion to our deficit , he did . The health care bill , why do you think he did not want others to read it , so much for mr transparency ,2500 pages , do you smell a fish , yes we the American public are the foolish fish . Our military is being dismantled in a time of absolute need of a strong broad military . Check out google obamas civillian military . This man wants us weak and dependant on the government , hence , communism . Still don't see and get it .. We need to be strong , close or limit our immigration , build a fence to keep terrorist with nukes out , term limits for politicians so no one is embedded , you don't get a bigger check when you have more unwed children , get a job . If you have worked all you life no u should not be forced to give your hard earned dollars to a want something for nothing slug . Get a job . These are just a very few things obamacide wants for my country . You don't like this country Obama and the rest , get the f out . Vote this tyrant out and elect a man of honesty and loyalty to this country highest position .. We are running out of time and freedom and money .....wake up please , our freedom is being covertly taken away ... An old marine. ...

Did you read the health care bill or did you listen to somone who offered a opinion. An old Marine well, as i said before i think your Senior Drill Instructor kept you in the pit to long.

[divemaster5734]

Mojack, don't waste your time with the fanatics, its a complete waste of time trying to communicate with uneducated individuals(this is in no means refering to anyone's intelligence, but instead about there knowledge on a particular subject). you and Grand pubah had a very healthy and I might add respectable debate going, then of course here come the hate mongers blowing it all up and taking it into an entirly diffrent direction, making it personal( thats where the hate shines thru), but they still don't get it. Everything is BO fault he created ALL of America's problems and this entire 16T debt is all him, has nothing to with the two wars that was costing US the American citizens over 1.2B a week and thats just the soft cost, now just 6 mos. ago they were all screaming this needs to end they promised this war would'nt cost us anything it needs to end now, what happens he brings them all home and guess what he wrong for that now as well and never mind that EVERY war/military professional has come out in the last few days and said its the right thing to do to cut back on our military size, the only problem is its BO thats doing it, but of course these brilliant military minds on this site know better, aren't we luck to have them here interacting with us man how did we get so lucky. So my point is don't waste your time, cause this isnt your country right, just like its not BO country, and because you don't hate and loathe him as they do that makes you a communist, far left, un American......... Peace my fellow American and so you know I feel you man!!!!!!!! and really have been enjoying the good clean debate between you and grand pubah, really good to see healthy disagreement without disrespect........... wow funny how thats what they claim to be so upset over is our government(oops sorry meant Obama) is trying to take away from us......... so who is the communist here.

I love it, this completely ignores everything I have said in the last few posts, and only concentrates on any negative.

Ok, how about this, I am SORRY if I ruffled any feathers.

I UNDERSTAND, so PLEASE, lets just FORGET who did and did not vote for the current POUTUS, because it was a set up anyway.

Cant we just realize WE, (that's you and me), are the ONLY ones that can fix this?

Once a politician gets a taste of the power and glamor , their eyes roll into the back of their heads and they start ignoring the people that put them there.

It doesn't matter what "flavor" they are, the only color that matters to them is GREEN.

I don't care who you are, if you are not an elite trying to tell me about a fake warming crisis, or trying to control every aspect of my life, then YOU are just like ME, a working slob just trying to get by.

This slob is TIRED of being told what some one else wants me to think, and do. even though that person has never worked an honest job in their life.

I work 12 to 18 hours a day.

Sometimes I leave my home at 5:00 am, and get back from the last project at 8:pm, then have 2 or 3 hours of files and paperwork to do, only to have to start it again the next day.

Then, I have to pay my business taxes quarterly, only to watch the dumb ass politicians use millions of dollars to build a mosque nobody wants, or pay a teacher to force kids to watch a homosexual film.

Or even worse, watch my tax dollars go to subsidize a multinational corporations foreign payroll.

Aren't you people tired of the hypocrisy????

We haven't had a representative government in over 50 years, and all you guys want to do is argue about who is the worst?????

For Real????

Who gives a crap who is the worst, they ALL suck!!!!!!!

PLEASE. call it potatoe, or potato, I DON'T CARE, but let's not just allow ourselves to be subjugated anymore for simple ignorant semantics!!!!!

Sheesh, GET REAL!!!!!

Please

Edited January 7, 2012 by divemaster5734

[Beux]

Remember when

[mojack]

I appreciate having my views challenged in a respectful way. Many people see it as a personal attack but that is how we grow and learn. Hard lessons that don't come easy.

I do believe that there have been many mistakes made by several of our last presidents that have helped lead us down the road we now find ourselves in. I do not believe President Obama is the fault for all our problems.

What probably concerns me most are what I view as decisions by him and other presidents that have basically done nothing but try to keep the temporary damage to a minimum for their political well being and polling results even if it would cause more damage down the road.

Our country is well on the road to bankruptcy and it would seem many in Washington are simply trying to salvage their careers rather than doing what is best for our country. I believe that is true of many politicians on both sides of the aisle.

The fact is that serious cuts have to be made in our national budget because we are borrowing against our future like Greece and several of the Euro nations have done without any plan on how to repay the debt but rather have developed a lifestyle of living off continuing and burgeoning debt. That can only last so long and it will bankrupt any home, business, or country.

Much of the rioting, violence, and protests in those countries we see now is because now the Gov't is forced to make those cuts because they can't pay their bills and people have become so accustomed to the reckless gov't spending and handouts that they are protesting that the cuts are being made and someone has to be blamed.

This is what our gov't is trying to avoid from happening. Only the longer they delay in making the fiscal adjustments necessary the worse it will be down the road a bit for our country and for everyone.

We need people in office who are not as worried about re-election as they are about doing what is best for the long term well being of our country.

I have learned the hard way that to delay making the hard decisions that have to made because you know it will cause temporary hardships to people you care about and be unpopular only ends up causing the problem to become worse. Man I hate having to make those kind of decisions!

I do strongly believe not to balance our national budget, to have a plan for how to pay down our debt, and strict legislation requirements that force our gov't to live within our means will only lead us into the inevitable economic collapse we are seeing in Europe now.

I do like Obama, I just don't agree with his strategy on fiscal policy (and a few other things I hold dear as nonnegotiable values that I won't go into at this time)

I know I thank God that I am not the one in the oval office right now. It is a lose lose situation.

Either to ad to the collapse of our nation or to commit political suicide.

I think many are blinded by party affiliation and we see everyday a bunch of political posturing that is all about pols and election results rather than true results.

There are times my frustration has come out and I have not been as respectful of the office as I should have been. I mean no ill will toward Pres. Obama or his family. He is my president.

But I definitely will not vote to re-elect him. I do hope my democratic friends and my black friends will not take that personal.

GP

+1 GP

We live in a democracy and therefore have given up a certain amount of rights for the privilege of freedom we think we have. Basically saying, we can't change the system, but we can live within it.

[Beux]

Remember when Oprah asked Obbe if he was the saviour? and when you all watched the speech on that fateful day how he said he wasnt? What gets me is when you ask who they voted for no-one says Obee. So how did he get in. I dont feel sorry for the people who voted this way cause they GOT what they came for- he ones who saw the light and didnt vote this way are the ones who are trying to get this ship turned around- This like taking a ship up a creek and turning it arond without hitting the banks- Kind of hard to do when it is 1000 feet long and your creek is on 100 feet wide. Somehow you will destroy some of the banck but you wont hurt the ship to much.Then once that is done people can fix the banks and the ship will be great again. The choice is yours on that great day of voting- Yet and if he loses i get this feeling we will see Florida all over again. Remember what happened in Florida or have yall forgotten? Pray people Pray- Thats the only real advice one can say or so- If and when this RV,s you can then help the ones who need it-I still believe the wealth will be given to thoes who wil help thoes who need it- Be there and GOD will be there for you-Blessings to all

[grand pubah]

+1 GP

We live in a democracy and therefore have given up a certain amount of rights for the privilege of freedom we think we have. Basically saying, we can't change the system, but we can live within it.

you are absolutely correct Mojack! +1

+1 Beaux

God help us that we don't fall from within like the Roman Empire did

[eileen]

Here we go again, give up guys the south lost the war. Why didn't you get enough votes in the last election to defeat our President. Let's move on and see it you can defeat him this November, which of course you won't. How long are you have nots going to let the 1% trick you. Oh I forgot, it's all about color, isn't it? It's ok you can admit it, I can tell where you stand.

Exactly---we have a President who cares about the little people and wanting everyone to have healthcare. I work to serve the poor and know what they're struggles are everyday. Unless, one is able to see this, know one will truly understand.