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estewart,

While I understand where you are coming from in our post, my language was far less derogatory and insulting than other people's in the thread. My use of a word commonly heard on network televison is a lot less inflamatory than the other people calling anyone with a diffrence of opinion an idiot. I understand that this is an all ages message board, but many other differing opinions are met with just as much disrespect and insults. While I do call out people in the same way they respond, mine is out of frustration of constant posts not regarding the Dinar and solely for inflamatory attention grabbing posts. Thats why I do not post often, I do not have any Dinar related news, I come here for that, not constant religous, I am against the current presendital adminsitration posts. Religion and politics should be kept out of business/investment decisions, no offense.

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Markinsa,

I can't help but feel that your post was directed at my post. Yet the things you highlighted on there, can be put directly towards the original post and any affirmative post for the original one. I feel that your post is directed solely at the posts defending the opposite views of the original post. Although I am a newbie in terms of post numbers I have been a long time lurker to this site for Dinar info. There are constantly negative posts made towards the current presidential administration and anyone that posts against them are chastised by the other posters that do not agree with their views. Someone bets 100,000 Dinars that the president is not legitimate and I voice my opinion, in admidetly a more confrontational way than most of the other posters, and I am at fault?

No, to be honest, I did not find your posts that much of a problem.

Always display a positive, friendly attitude.

Be respectful of others' opinions.

Allow your fellow members to voice their opinions.

DO NOT deliberately start arguments. Debates are great, as long as they remain respectful!

Read more: http://dinarvets.com...0#ixzz1YC6qe9Fe

The above rules are more guidelines on how to behave while here on DinarVets. While you may not like topics about religion and politics, these subjects are often brought up and talked about in the Off Topics section. ( The Off Topics section, I believe was meant to give us a break from Dinar, which quite frankly, all of us could use now and then. ) Like it or not, YOU MUST respect the other persons, opinion and conduct yourself in a positive friendly attitude. Granted not everyone follows these rules to a T, but it provides us moderators guidelines when trying to keep DinarVets and Fun and Informative place for All MEMBERS to visit.

If you are unable to make a positive post to contribute to DinarVets and find it difficult to follow DinarVets Forum Rules, you shouldn't post at all, and I am directing this toward all members not just you.

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I'd think the man (Obama) has done enough to show who he really is. (And his wife, for that matter.) Now let's go about the business of moving forward, and vote his socialist butt out of a job.

What does Mrs. Obama have to to do with this issue? Bash Mr. Obama all you want to, he is a Public Figure, however, I always felt that wife and kids should be off limits. I mean really, how could you have anything against her apperance on kids programs, or encouraging kids to eat healthy. Have you checked her approval ratings? Just saying

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What does Mrs. Obama have to to do with this issue? Bash Mr. Obama all you want to, he is a Public Figure, however, I always felt that wife and kids should be off limits. I mean really, how could you have anything against her apperance on kids programs, or encouraging kids to eat healthy. Have you checked her approval ratings? Just saying

As long as she has a staff ( of 27?) paid for from my tax dollars, she is not off limits.

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It is a lot higher then 27 & I can tell you that and anybody who

says they're not proud to be an American needs to be talked about.

what she said was.....she was now proud to be an american.....I personaly can relate to this statement.....for a long time I was not a big fan of the way things were done in america....Lost a cousin in the church bombing in alabama...How proud do you think my family was to be an american? couple of months ago.....was on my way to close up my cottege in the UP....Kids wanted something to eat so I pull off I75 and head to a mcdonalds...Ran right into a KKK ralley...They really made me proud to be an american....not to worry because as I said to my wife....I carry 357 reasons why they don't want to mess with me. you cannot always judge based on the experiences you have had....walk in someone elses foot steps and perhaps you might have a different vantage point. just saying

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no disrespect to the president or anyone that supports him but just from watching the news i honestly hope he doesn't get re-elected. just watch the news , scandals , increasingly hi debt and unemployment and more laws to push us further in debt and unemployment . sorry but just had to voice my opinion , he really has made some bad decisions for your country and I hope most of those decisions will be reversed in the next presidency.

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.What Mrs. Obama said is quoted below; now folks can misquote or spin that statement, however they need to spin it. I grew up in America Too, I understand first hand the mean spiritedness some display.

Speaking in Milwaukee, Wis., on Monday, she said, “People in this country are ready for change and hungry for a different kind of politics and … for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331288,00.html#ixzz1YEP1gZUG(Watch the video of this second comment HERE.)

ABC news had this to say; Some conservatives out there (HERE for instance) seem to find Mrs. Obama’s quote offensive, wondering why a 44 year old woman never felt proud before today.

Asked for a response to the remark, Obama campaign spox Bill Burton said, “Of course Michelle is proud of her country, which is why she and Barack talk constantly about how their story wouldn’t be possible in any other nation on Earth. What she meant is that she’s really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who’ve never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/02/michelle-obam-1-2/

this was not intended for this thread....guess too many windows open....apologize

Im willing to bet.....when this speculation comes to fruition.....there will be those who for the first time will really have faith in this investment...

As a side note........How many on this site actually own an American Flag?

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Not buying what your selling!!! There's got to be a better way for you tea party folks to spend your time.

Don't be lumping the Tea Party in with the Apocolypsers, preppers, and end-timers. That's not what it's all about even if some in it are that way, so don't get me started. Your being offensive and sound foolish. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, including you. i've been studying up on immigration while getting ready for a possible RV and moving out of the country. Those who think the POTUS is not qualified DO have legitimate concerns AND a LEGAL leg to stand on. And we're NOT talking birthers here....

"Accusation without investigation is the height of ignorance." - Albert Einstein

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I'll put my money where my mouth is. All the people that want to call out the legitimacy of Obama, don't realize one thing. You are calling out the legitimacy of the US Constitution. And if you think that the government as a whole does not verify each candidate's legitamacy, well you are impeded. People that hold on to issues like these are the people that are scared to run for an office that might change something. Here is an idea, if you don't like the present adminstration, why don't you run for office? Seriously, its easy to call out people when you have never made the decision to run for any office other than treasure of your local rotary club. You idiots that think that any person, Republican or Democrat doesn't not weigh the impact that running for any office and how it could affect their family and is just running to get a socialist muslim in the White House to sink this country over a grudge? Do me a favor, listen for the pop, thats the sound you will hear when you pull your head out of your a$$. You don't like the current politcal system in place? Why don't you run for office? Why don't you figure out that the house and senate control most things and its actually the supreme court that controls all of the laws that govern us? I guess I could have saved a lot of money getting my Poli Sci degree and just read blogs and you tube videos. You people make me sick, you are more un American than the people you call out.

phareal80, it appears that you are in full agreement with the present administration.

If I am wrong, then I stand corrected. I apologize..

But because of your statement You are calling out the legitimacy of the US Constitution.

I just want to bring into light the fact that the American Constitution has been usurped

by an altogether different set of laws and rules. and without our agreeing or permission.

Why else do you think Congress does not pay attention to We The People?

ie: taxing without representation, Obamacare, the Patriot act.. War without end..

Restrictions on our personal rights..And on and on..and on

Did you have a look at the American Constitution lately? If you did, you will notice that nowhere does it say

that we may be obliged to be a victim of any of these rules.

Congress has not been adhering to the original, organic Constitution for millenium, and they change the laws as they go along.

Read My Post:

That is why we must ALL Americans join together in opposing this behavior, and demand our CONSTITUTION back !

Fighting among ourselves serves very little purpose, it is what they want us to do.

Then, before we know it we will have Marshall Law imposed. And ALL of our freedoms will disapear, never to be seen again.

Remember, United We Stand !

Best Regards

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So let's see here...

If someone cares about their country and thinks Obama might be an illegal President, they are a Tea Party member.

If someone just doesn't like Obama because the country is going into the toilet, they are called a racist.

If someone wants change and supports Ron Paul and the Constitution, they are called a terrorist.

My question for you is....what do we call someone with your attitude?

Very well said you get a +1. I think we are all fed up with those morally bankrupt tactics...Basically if you disagree with any of the liberal agenda then you are called names and your character is assasinated. Thats not a world I want to hand down to my children (when I have them some day).

Lets get back to the winning formula that made this country great in the first place. Be proud of what this country is and represents because anything else out there is simply a downgrade and who wants that?

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Very well said you get a +1. I think we are all fed up with those morally bankrupt tactics...Basically if you disagree with any of the liberal agenda then you are called names and your character is assasinated. Thats not a world I want to hand down to my children (when I have them some day).

Lets get back to the winning formula that made this country great in the first place. Be proud of what this country is and represents because anything else out there is simply a downgrade and who wants that?

You do realize, the same thing happens if you disagree with the Conservative agenda right? Its not a left or a right thing, its that people are unable to open their eyes and see BEYOND where they've been conditioned to look

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I'll put my money where my mouth is. All the people that want to call out the legitimacy of Obama, don't realize one thing. You are calling out the legitimacy of the US Constitution. And if you think that the government as a whole does not verify each candidate's legitamacy, well you are impeded. People that hold on to issues like these are the people that are scared to run for an office that might change something. Here is an idea, if you don't like the present adminstration, why don't you run for office? Seriously, its easy to call out people when you have never made the decision to run for any office other than treasure of your local rotary club. You idiots that think that any person, Republican or Democrat doesn't not weigh the impact that running for any office and how it could affect their family and is just running to get a socialist muslim in the White House to sink this country over a grudge? Do me a favor, listen for the pop, thats the sound you will hear when you pull your head out of your a$$. You don't like the current politcal system in place? Why don't you run for office? Why don't you figure out that the house and senate control most things and its actually the supreme court that controls all of the laws that govern us? I guess I could have saved a lot of money getting my Poli Sci degree and just read blogs and you tube videos. You people make me sick, you are more un American than the people you call out.

you have a pol science degree, yet you seem to have forgotten this country was founded on the premise of the INDIVIDUALS sovereignty.

It is only in Communism that the sovereignty is placed in the masses.

The office of POTUS is based on SERVING the needs of the individual citizens.

A person "serving" in that capacity was NEVER intended to have a greater standing than any other human being.

Just because corrupt federal "judges" have sold their soul for political favor and ruled against the standing of all individuals questioning bo's status, does NOT mean they even bothered to address the core issue.

Just what did you do to graduate?

Besides learned to deny the truth.

Bo's status has NEVER been vetted.

Show me a link to the hearings and I will apologize.

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You would be surprised at how fast people are waking up, worldwide it's the majority, only here it is still a minority for now.

Actually Alex's show has more listeners than any similar Fox, CNN, or CNBC show now, that's part of the reason Beck has his own now.

They can think we are nuts and we won't care, after it starts at least we will be eating well while they are killing each other over food.

As for 1984, we are almost there now and the Elites have sped their plans up..but I think Fukushima will take care of many of us anyways.

AJ is good at what he does, maybe a little to loud or in your face for the sheeple to get it, but he does have great guests.

Hey what's it like in canada would not mind moving?

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you have a pol science degree, yet you seem to have forgotten this country was founded on the premise of the INDIVIDUALS sovereignty.

It is only in Communism that the sovereignty is placed in the masses.

The office of POTUS is based on SERVING the needs of the individual citizens.

A person "serving" in that capacity was NEVER intended to have a greater standing than any other human being.

Just because corrupt federal "judges" have sold their soul for political favor and ruled against the standing of all individuals questioning bo's status, does NOT mean they even bothered to address the core issue.

Just what did you do to graduate?

Besides learned to deny the truth.

Bo's status has NEVER been vetted.

Show me a link to the hearings and I will apologize.

True, BO has was never properly vetted according to the laws and the constitution and that is a fact. At the time, BO refused to produce his birth certificate. Nor was his previous citizenship(s) called into question. It is a known fact he was an Indonesian citizen at one time.

Quote: "Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States"

Barry's father is Kenyan and a subject of the UK (Kenyan Colony, UK, pre-1963). THAT ALONE DISQUALIFIES HIM FROM BEING POTUS. His birth certificate is of no consequence. He is NOT a natural-born citizen.

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.What Mrs. Obama said is quoted below; now folks can misquote or spin that statement, however they need to spin it. I grew up in America Too, I understand first hand the mean spiritedness some display.

Speaking in Milwaukee, Wis., on Monday, she said, “People in this country are ready for change and hungry for a different kind of politics and … for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331288,00.html#ixzz1YEP1gZUG(Watch the video of this second comment HERE.)

ABC news had this to say; Some conservatives out there (HERE for instance) seem to find Mrs. Obama’s quote offensive, wondering why a 44 year old woman never felt proud before today.

Asked for a response to the remark, Obama campaign spox Bill Burton said, “Of course Michelle is proud of her country, which is why she and Barack talk constantly about how their story wouldn’t be possible in any other nation on Earth. What she meant is that she’s really proud at this moment because for the first time in a long time, thousands of Americans who’ve never participated in politics before are coming out in record numbers to build a grassroots movement for change."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/02/michelle-obam-1-2/

this was not intended for this thread....guess too many windows open....apologize

Im willing to bet.....when this speculation comes to fruition.....there will be those who for the first time will really have faith in this investment...

As a side note........How many on this site actually own an American Flag?

I own an American flag and it is flying at my house right nosw,

Mrs Obama was correct when she said America is ready for a change and hungry for a new kind of politics, unfortunately America did not get what it wanted......... <_<:angry::angry:

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Hey what's it like in canada would not mind moving?

Well being such a huge country I can only speak of Ontario where I am, it isn't much different than the northern states unless you go north here

a few hundred miles and then you will have very cold winters and deep snow, but most of southern Ontario is 4 seasons at it's best.

We have more fresh water lakes than most can count, estimates are over 200,000 just in Ontario alone and some remain untouched and we border

all the Great Lakes except Lake Michigan. Fishing is amazing with over 140 species and huge Muskie and Pickerel as well as many kinds of Trout.

Endless fresh water supplies and if you're into hunting that is huge here to.

But if you are wondering about the living conditions for jobs and such, we are going through the same as you guys only it is happening slower here so far,

they seem to be going after the States first. Jobs are still possible here and minimum wage is just over $10/hr which makes it easier to live with some comfort for

people starting out and of course we have our health care which for the majority is great.

But we still have that Food Safety act going through and a mild police state starting to appear since the G20 in Toronto but if you keep to yourself and

don't get into big crimes it is very peaceful for the most part.

Now the east coast is a different life and much cheaper to live if you have work there where BC is amazing for scenery but a bit more expensive to live, so it

depends on what type of lifestyle you want I guess. If I had my choice I would live in the Yukon but family is here so for now I will remain here.

Overall people are cool and friendly, like their beers and just enjoying life to the fullest and I would say for now the positives outweigh the negatives.

Oh and yes we can have guns, just can't carry them around like most are used to in the States. If I left anything out someone can chime in from other parts....

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Awesome posts fellow DV's...

Clearly the only way to save the USA is to get this self absorbant clown (whom IMO doesn't give a flyin' (fuill in the blank) about ANY of us... including those that support him!!!

The problem is even after we get this guy out....there is no one better on the ballot on either side...they are ALL self absorbant clowns who don't give a darn about any of us

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Well being such a huge country I can only speak of Ontario where I am, it isn't much different than the northern states unless you go north here

a few hundred miles and then you will have very cold winters and deep snow, but most of southern Ontario is 4 seasons at it's best.

We have more fresh water lakes than most can count, estimates are over 200,000 just in Ontario alone and some remain untouched and we border

all the Great Lakes except Lake Michigan. Fishing is amazing with over 140 species and huge Muskie and Pickerel as well as many kinds of Trout.

Endless fresh water supplies and if you're into hunting that is huge here to.

But if you are wondering about the living conditions for jobs and such, we are going through the same as you guys only it is happening slower here so far,

they seem to be going after the States first. Jobs are still possible here and minimum wage is just over $10/hr which makes it easier to live with some comfort for

people starting out and of course we have our health care which for the majority is great.

But we still have that Food Safety act going through and a mild police state starting to appear since the G20 in Toronto but if you keep to yourself and

don't get into big crimes it is very peaceful for the most part.

Now the east coast is a different life and much cheaper to live if you have work there where BC is amazing for scenery but a bit more expensive to live, so it

depends on what type of lifestyle you want I guess. If I had my choice I would live in the Yukon but family is here so for now I will remain here.

Overall people are cool and friendly, like their beers and just enjoying life to the fullest and I would say for now the positives outweigh the negatives.

Oh and yes we can have guns, just can't carry them around like most are used to in the States. If I left anything out someone can chime in from other parts....

Thanks for the information well all I want is to be in the woods somewhere so I can hunt fish and just live. Right now i live in the northern part of the states but still to many people for me. What about rentals do you know how much they go for? I would really like to speak to you more if that's possibly Thanks again AJ

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