ESOTERIC BANKING, FINANCE, THE OCCULT, AND THE DINAR

[Caducues]

well thank you chooch for opening this thread... some of this is hard to believe at first sight but that doesnt mean i oppose the thought in it.... so much makes sense ... you inspired me many-a-googling/wiki to seek out deeper meaning to the topics and vocab that were posed to me. right now is bed time for me but i leave thirsty... needless to say i will be checking in again.

tah tah for now!

[NonLinear]

I know... bustin' my chops over something so stupid. YES FOLKS... I DID TWO YEARS OF LAW SCHOOL WHILE WORKING FULL TIME! I did my internship with a major metro's public defender's office and totally lost the desire to finish the last year. I might still do it someday, but not right now. If you want to know the system is completely corrupt and broken, work in a public defender's office for a few days... it will shatter you... at least it did me. None of the people I helped defend received an adequate defense in my opinoin... everyone is encouraged just to push a plea deal, cuz its cheap and easy... even if the people are frickin innocent! The defendants would rather take a felony conviction and probation just so they can get out of jail because they can't afford bail. It gets much worse then this, but I don't want to drift any further right now. Thanks for the op to vent.

Ahhh, yes, the 'fun' - NOT! - of MAN MADE laws! CONGRATULATIONS for coming to your senses! Cost a few $$$ and you experienced the futility of bowing down to a FLAWED 'system' [an expensive lesson]! Now, EMBRACE UNIVERSAL LAW! Arnold Patent did! You can have 'Christ-mass Everyday'! We WELCOME you! Are you game?

Since you mentioned other uses of gold (such as medicinal), just curious if you've heard anything about other properties besides this and conductivity. For example, I don't have a reference at the moment, but have read of studies where gold powder has been heated. Upon cooling, the weight becomes "lighter than air", implying there could be anti-gravity properties in certain conditions. Maybe that's what the wedge craft you mentioned earlier uses.

ORMUS?

[Chooch]

well thank you chooch for opening this thread... some of this is hard to believe at first sight but that doesnt mean i oppose the thought in it.... so much makes sense ... you inspired me many-a-googling/wiki to seek out deeper meaning to the topics and vocab that were posed to me. right now is bed time for me but i leave thirsty... needless to say i will be checking in again.

tah tah for now!

Thanks for the good words Caduces! I totally agree with you. Please don't believe me or anything else that people write. I certanly didn't when I first started encountering some of this info, and that includes the DINAR investment!.. You must research everything yourself. That way you are empowered and not giving your energy to some shmuck like me. You then permit yourself to find your own truth, because its different for everyone. And yes that old saying "Truth is stranger then fiction" is 100% correct. This is why people in my opinion have it all wrong in churches. Nobody needs a priest, minister, or church official to lead them anywhere... and certainly don't need them as a conduit to god. God and his/her kingdom is within you... I mean there is nothing wrong with church, I just don't like a mass of people being told how/what to think. Church in my opinion would be much better if everyone had a chance to speak and tell their perspective rather then listen to somebody who has been programmed what to believe in their respective religious scripture. And I also have a huge problem with tithing ... tithing is not wrong in my opinion. Giving is great,,, and I give money all the time... not to 501c3 institutions that keep most of the money donated, but directly to people that need it. I don't need the tax deduction either. Thats just my 2 cents amigo.

[cottn68]

We are both... Warriors and Children

I agree Chooch we need to give love, pure love

Truer words have never been spoken.

Personally, I find that each day it becomes harder to tell which one to be!!

And for what it's worth I also appreciate this thread being started Chooch

[Rossenbos]

It's interesting how many people have trouble believing or even taking serious, the information Cooch and others share here.

They sort of say "it's all farfetched and ridiculous" but ignore the facts and evidence.

Some, in the meantime, hold on to their beliefs.

I recently found this definition of Christianity. It's extremely funny!

Don't bash me for it please. I don't mean any disrespect. Jesus is my hero too :-). But I could not not share this.

"Christianity

The belief that some cosmic

Jewish Zombie can make you live

forever if you symbolically eat his

flesh and telepathically tell him that

you accept him as your master so he can remove

an evil force from your soul that is present in

humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by

a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense"

Since you mentioned other uses of gold (such as medicinal), just curious if you've heard anything about other properties besides this and conductivity. For example, I don't have a reference at the moment, but have read of studies where gold powder has been heated. Upon cooling, the weight becomes "lighter than air", implying there could be anti-gravity properties in certain conditions. Maybe that's what the wedge craft you mentioned earlier uses.

Ah yes. the white powder ( or Manna). The pyramids apparently were labs where the White Gold was processed.

For a good read on that, check out Laurence Gardner's books ( I might spell it wrong) although he has a questionable background... He might be out there to feed us disinformation.

[Chooch]

Ahhh, yes, the 'fun' - NOT! - of MAN MADE laws! CONGRATULATIONS for coming to your senses! Cost a few $$$ and you experienced the futility of bowing down to a FLAWED 'system' [an expensive lesson]! Now, EMBRACE UNIVERSAL LAW! Arnold Patent did! You can have 'Christ-mass Everyday'! We WELCOME you! Are you game?

ORMUS?

Suffices to say that I have definitely embraced universal law.

[Chooch]

It's interesting how many people have trouble believing or even taking serious, the information Cooch and others share here.

They sort of say "it's all farfetched and ridiculous" but ignore the facts and evidence.

Some, in the meantime, hold on to their beliefs.

I recently found this definition of Christianity. It's extremely funny!

Don't bash me for it please. I don't mean any disrespect. Jesus is my hero too :-). But I could not not share this.

"Christianity

The belief that some cosmic

Jewish Zombie can make you live

forever if you symbolically eat his

flesh and telepathically tell him that

you accept him as your master so he can remove

an evil force from your soul that is present in

humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by

a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense"

Ah yes. the white powder ( or Manna). The pyramids apparently were labs where the White Gold was processed.

For a good read on that, check out Laurence Gardner's books ( I might spell it wrong) although he has a questionable background... He might be out there to feed us disinformation.

WOW... I am learning more myself! I don't know if they used gold in our secret space program. I know about Sitchin's belief that early man was just created to mine gold, but I of course don't know. They did however use mercury for a period of time in our early saucers in order to create the two counter rotating magnetic fields that counter gravity. I read of mumerous stories of the early crashes involving what a pain in the arse it was to clean up the mercury from the scene, cuz they couldn't never get it all.. then locals would find it and think its from space. Now from my understanding its all "plasma " technology and/or they use metals that are mined from other "far out locations" and refined in space which does something to the alloys that makes them better for whatever they are used for. I am not an expert in this area. I know Stan Deo does alot of presentations on this stuff. If you want to see our latest and greatest space crafts, google TR3B. That is the triangular shaped craft people around the world have seen and photographed including a Congressman from Phoenix, AZ (photos all over the web). The TR3B is the next generation AURORA, which is still in use as well. I still find it amusing our government is still trying to sell us on the whole NASA and our space shuttles are defunct cr*p.

[Thomas Gambill]

I just checked out the vid. Very cool... not sure I agree with it 100%, but regardless I liked it. Did you notice the narrrator sounds alot like Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons? I have not had time to check out the site, will do it later tonight.

+1.... I love this quote by Dr. Bill Deagle. "We are all the sons and daughters of the most hight." "We just need to remember it and begin to act like it."

Bill Deagle, I have to tell you its very important is not right. The only way to be saved and for God to hear our prayers is through Jesus Christ only. God does not hear our prayers except through Jesus Christ. Its in the Bible and the New Age has taken over the truth and this is the big lie. John 14:6 "King James Bible

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

What a great story! Thanks for sharing this! I do belive you are correct. In reality what I think these satanists are doing is literally ripping a whole and creating a doorway for these entities to enter them. The worst of the worst do this through human ritual abuse and sacrifice, vampirism, and canibalism. Dr. Gibson will confirm that horrific crime scenes especially murders and rapes can leave these doorways open for long periods of time. This is why it is important in my opinion to either destroy the edifice where something like this occurs, and/or bring in a specialist that can seal up these doorways and banish whatever entity might still be lingering. I don't know this for a fact, but it is my understanding also that these demons if we should call them that are essentially energetic parasites that attach to our shakra bodies. I know at least one author refers to these entities as energy vampires.

The reality is that the only way to truly remove these real to life demons is by the power of the Holy Spirit and Blood of Jesus; to invoke your authority. One must be born again of God; and then can these demons be dealt with. However, if you run across a "strong man" of the host or legions of these demons, only by Prayer and fasting can these kind be removed.

[Thomas Gambill]

While organized church has it's purpose, the truth is when Jesus walked, He never promoted any religion.

Christian really only means "follower of Christ", not just visiting Him in some building on weekends.

While the KJV version contains His word, I believe it was slightly altered in order to promote servitude to the King and church.

Is it any wonder the Vatican claims to own the world?

yes, it is true the 300 worship Satan. The truth is available to any that honestly seek it.

I quit attending regular weekly church when I realized I no longer required the generic repeated baby Christian messages, and had a burning desire to understand ALL truths.

All you have to do is claim it.

Matthew 7:7 NIV “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."

Pray for Truth, and it WILL be shown to you.

just be ready to deal with it when your eyes are opened.

Just to let you know....the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God. All versions after the 1611 KJV have been altered. The two that did it was Westcott and Hort, Masons and Warlocks (literally) from 1875 to 1890's finishing the first version of the new ones to follow. Most all of them is also based on the heretical Latin Vulgate based on Origen's re-translation of the real scriptures from Antioch.

[Thomas Gambill]

In regards to ALL of the 'fallen angels' [read as 'angles of light' - Lucifer being the 'big guy' and the other ones following his 'lead' relative to this planet], we have a CHOICE to go to HIS boss [God] and follow HIS lead! Why not go to the SOURCE of ALL that 'is' instead of blindly [which most people do] following a discontented 'lieutenant' whose power and authority was GIVEN to him [and taken away] by his Commander in Chief! The Urantia book explains this particular 'fallen angel' quite well!

The most mind boggling aspect which caused me to STOP researching and correlating the material in the Urantia book was when I read just how powerful our THOUGHTS really are and how we can use them to ACCESS the True Power! I put the book down for over two years before I was mature enough to continue with my research! This knowledge has helped me become an extension of the MOST High [which everyone can do/be]!

Anyone can serve the myriad of 'false/fallen/misguided' 'truth' peddlers. The VAST majority of religions/organizations are the leading the masses AWAY from the Truth. Many if not most of them are doing it simply because they are unable to break out of the dogma [quicksand] in which they find themselves immersed in [the leaders included-the blind leading the blind]. If anyone questions or goes against the 'party line', they get kicked out, or in the case of Scientology, they get sued, harassed or physically abused which takes them years to recover from if they ever do!

Even our alien contacts that you have mentioned, who have had a hand in our evolution here on this planet [and still have a complete awareness of how we our evolving as a species], HAVE to adhere to these same rules even though they have vast technological knowledge and can travel inter-dimensionally. You are already aware of how today's advanced technology is NOT for our evolving to the Truth. It is being used for genocide, controlling the 'assets' of the corporation, wars... etc... [check out Dr. Len Horowitz].

Again, when we 'team up' with the 'Big Guy' [The TRUE Commander and Chief - NOT his lieutenant!], using our conscious desires via our THOUGHTS, matter itself embraces our vested authority! This living subtle energy [light/waveforms/frequencies...] LOVES for us to embrace our rightful heritage! This truly is where the 'rubber meets the road'! Our biological cells sing in delight by changing their vibration which in turn allows many wonderful chemicals to be released [Dr Candace Pert]. Biological aging slows down and physical issues start disappearing. Miracles INDEED!

I humbly submit my own testimonial to this FACT! I do so under penalty of Law! The REAL Law! [sorry, got a little carried away...]

In-Joy!

"Even our alien contacts that you have mentioned, who have had a hand in our evolution here on this planet [and still have a complete awareness of how we our evolving as a species],"

I have to say that this statement is totally false. The aliens do not exist. Fallen angels and demons that have physical bodies do. They have had nothing to do with any evolutionary process. They are however creating their own creation using advanced genetics that date back to the days of Noah. The Flood sent by God the first time wiped out the abominations and genetically corrupted human and animal species. God started new with Noah and family that ere according to the Bible, KJV perfect in his generation, meaning no corrupted DNA. We have never evolved, as Adam and Eve were created as they were, human. Satan is tying as he always has tried and failed to create his own creation using technology but he will fail once again. the UFO Hoax, Disclosure and the Third Phase of the Externalization of the Hierarchy soon.

[Chooch]

"Even our alien contacts that you have mentioned, who have had a hand in our evolution here on this planet [and still have a complete awareness of how we our evolving as a species],"

I have to say that this statement is totally false. The aliens do not exist. Fallen angels and demons that have physical bodies do. They have had nothing to do with any evolutionary process. They are however creating their own creation using advanced genetics that date back to the days of Noah. The Flood sent by God the first time wiped out the abominations and genetically corrupted human and animal species. God started new with Noah and family that ere according to the Bible, KJV perfect in his generation, meaning no corrupted DNA. We have never evolved, as Adam and Eve were created as they were, human. Satan is tying as he always has tried and failed to create his own creation using technology but he will fail once again. the UFO Hoax, Disclosure and the Third Phase of the Externalization of the Hierarchy soon.

I am not Necessarily disagreeing with you. I just think there is much much much more more to the story. I don't think it matters what label you put on them. I actually prefer the word "regressives," but thats just me and it keeps it simple. Angel is defined biblically as "messanger" or "messanger of god." But unfortunately when people hear that word, it is literally "type casted" as a human being with wings and a halo. In scripture that predates the old testament (I just can't think of the name right now) it says specifically that "angels" were created by god before man, and that angels were not given free will. It futher states that angels ONLY have immortality if they obey the word of god. In this scriptural reference these fallen angels that turned against god are in fact mortal. The Illuminati at the highest level believe that Lucifer and the fallen angels do not have bodies and exist in the astral plane. They can possess a human or an artificial body, but don't have their own. NOTE: I am just giving this info for reference so you can see how the label "angel" in my opinion does a disservice to them. In reality what do we really know about them as FACT other then they are regressives that have turned against creation and created their own way of temporarily sustaining themselves by feeding off others? So thats why I call them regressives. In my opinion we can always add more to the label "regressive" as the info becomes apparent. I agree as well that "Disclosure" is a joke. We know that life exists beyond our narrow worldly perspective here on this 3rd rock from the son. So when/if disclosure does happen, we all can yawn and laugh because we know the joke's on them. I don't want you to take this personally, but please don't limit your perspective to just the KJV. I assure you the KJV is just as corrupted as everything else we have on earth. Francis Bacon was a horrible person and his involvement alone with the KJV casts extreme reasonable doubt on its perception as the "unadultered word of god." Blavatsky's Externalization of the Heirarchy is some great reading if anyone is interested. You really get to see again how Lucifer (Blavatsky channeled Lucifer and wrote the book) works. Remember, the Illuminati believe they are good, and Blavatsky believed she was serving humanity (in one respect I do believe evil serves us cuz we learn), by doing what she did. The book describes everything that is going on now such as how the Illuminati will devour their own as long as one of them is left standing when Lucifer arrives here. In my opinion... Lucifer has lied even to them. This will sound insane, but remember Lucifer is still part of the creation, as are we. We are him, and he is us, and all of us are a part of the great divine plan, and we are part of the creator or fractals of the divine one. Please EVERYONE... don't freak out or think that we all have to agree about any of this.... it is not necessary to agree... that is what makes us divinely different and diverse. I don't even mind if you don't believe in god becaue I know god loves you regardless. This also helps pass the time while we await our fate with the dinar. We all have our own path in life, and I pray that our paths all meet soon with regard to the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar!

[NonLinear]

I just think there is much much much more more to the story.

Agreed x 10! Take a few hours and read MUCH more of the 'story' from a VERY different point of view! It will be FUN!

"We are the fruit of complex interactions with extraterrestrial entities that we have long taken for the "Gods". Far from the paradigms of Darwinism and creationism, Parks proposes an exogenesis of humanity based on the decryption of great fundamental myths, but also on Sumerian and biblical texts. A fascinating voyage to our ultimate origins."

Karmapolis in Nexus Magazine (French Edition) No. 50, May-June 2007

http://www.zeitlin.net/EndEnchantment/Secrets.html

'IN-JOY'!

[Chooch]

Just to let you know....the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God. All versions after the 1611 KJV have been altered. The two that did it was Westcott and Hort, Masons and Warlocks (literally) from 1875 to 1890's finishing the first version of the new ones to follow. Most all of them is also based on the heretical Latin Vulgate based on Origen's re-translation of the real scriptures from Antioch.

Those same warlocks, masons, etc that you mention created the KJV 1611. Research it for yourself. Out of respect for each other, lets just agree to disagree and move on.

[Chooch]

Bill Deagle, I have to tell you its very important is not right. The only way to be saved and for God to hear our prayers is through Jesus Christ only. God does not hear our prayers except through Jesus Christ. Its in the Bible and the New Age has taken over the truth and this is the big lie. John 14:6 "King James Bible

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

The reality is that the only way to truly remove these real to life demons is by the power of the Holy Spirit and Blood of Jesus; to invoke your authority. One must be born again of God; and then can these demons be dealt with. However, if you run across a "strong man" of the host or legions of these demons, only by Prayer and fasting can these kind be removed.

It seems to me like you have glued yourself to some religions dogma, which if it works for you then fine. Have you ever read any other religious scripture or are you only limiting yourself to one book? "If you want to understand the enemy, you must study and learn from the enemy...Otherwise you don't belong anywhere near the battle field." - William Cooper. In my opinion once you transcend this whole evil-good paradigm, you begin to see there is no "us" and "them". There is only us. Again, out of respect for each other, and the opinions of others, lets just agree to disagree on this topic and move on.

[joekooltrips]

"Even our alien contacts that you have mentioned, who have had a hand in our evolution here on this planet [and still have a complete awareness of how we our evolving as a species],"

I have to say that this statement is totally false. The aliens do not exist. Fallen angels and demons that have physical bodies do. They have had nothing to do with any evolutionary process. They are however creating their own creation using advanced genetics that date back to the days of Noah. The Flood sent by God the first time wiped out the abominations and genetically corrupted human and animal species. God started new with Noah and family that ere according to the Bible, KJV perfect in his generation, meaning no corrupted DNA. We have never evolved, as Adam and Eve were created as they were, human. Satan is tying as he always has tried and failed to create his own creation using technology but he will fail once again. the UFO Hoax, Disclosure and the Third Phase of the Externalization of the Hierarchy soon.

Check the Bloodlines between Adam and Cain to see how the seed of the serpent survived the flood,and carefully read Genisis again to understand how this is still going on to this day.

[bsme123]

It seems to me like you have glued yourself to some religions dogma, which if it works for you then fine. Have you ever read any other religious scripture or are you only limiting yourself to one book? "If you want to understand the enemy, you must study and learn from the enemy...Otherwise you don't belong anywhere near the battle field." - William Cooper. In my opinion once you transcend this whole evil-good paradigm, you begin to see there is no "us" and "them". There is only us. Again, out of respect for each other, and the opinions of others, lets just agree to disagree on this topic and move on.

"

You had me up until here. The blood of Yeshua is not religious dogma, while you know much about many things, you know nothing about Divine Law, now your pushing New Age Ridiculousness.."..there is no US and Them", only exposes YOU!

Bill Deagle, I have to tell you its very important is not right. The only way to be saved and for God to hear our prayers is through Jesus Christ only. God does not hear our prayers except through Jesus Christ. Its in the Bible and the New Age has taken over the truth and this is the big lie. John 14:6 "King James Bible

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

The reality is that the only way to truly remove these real to life demons is by the power of the Holy Spirit and Blood of Jesus; to invoke your authority. One must be born again of God; and then can these demons be dealt with. However, if you run across a "strong man" of the host or legions of these demons, only by Prayer and fasting can these kind be removed.

AMEN BROTHER!

[tired_of_waiting]

Chooch, I will revisit this thread in about a week too see if you are telling people about the Anawaki from the plant Niberu who inhabit the dark side of the moon. LOL

[chocolate1]

Yes, there exist varied 'levels' of 'energetic parasites' which, in turn, via the human host, will create their own level/intensity of 'chaos/mischief...' on this 3rd dimensional plane which they otherwise would not have access to unless INVITED through invocations/chants/spells/thoughts thus creating these 'portals'.

NonLinear/Thomas Gimball: How does one exorcise those entities out of one's own body, when a competent exorciser is not available to do it for you?

I know the Lord told the Disciples, "this kind goeth not out except through fasting and prayer", in response to when the disciples could all of a sudden not seem to cast a demon out of a child (they needed to go back to the 'board' if you will, and by prayer and fasting, 'access' more vehement power) . But would that also work if i were to pray and fast for myself, meaning, at some point during my fasting and prayer (intense, im sure and not just some willy-nilly fasting and prayer afternoon) command them to leave me my Soul or would they leave on their own after, lets say, seven (7) days of the prayer and fasting?

Thanks

[chocolate1]

Just to let you know....the King James Bible is the inerrant word of God. All versions after the 1611 KJV have been altered. The two that did it was Westcott and Hort, Masons and Warlocks (literally) from 1875 to 1890's finishing the first version of the new ones to follow. Most all of them is also based on the heretical Latin Vulgate based on Origen's re-translation of the real scriptures from Antioch.

I agree with you 100%, brother! After reading and rereading the New and Old Testament--I cannot believe that God would allow some adulterated, fake and forged Word to represent who He to a lost and dying world! If that were the case, then we would have the most justifiable excuse on THAT DAY to use for Him to let us into His Kingdom!

"After all God, your word was altered, faked, forged, misinterpreted, copied and pasted and downloaded and reconstructed together by so many so many times that it was just not my fault for not getting to know who you are and what your expectations were of me or how to live like you wanted me to..."

Agreed x 10! Take a few hours and read MUCH more of the 'story' from a VERY different point of view! It will be FUN!

"We are the fruit of complex interactions with extraterrestrial entities that we have long taken for the "Gods". Far from the paradigms of Darwinism and creationism, Parks proposes an exogenesis of humanity based on the decryption of great fundamental myths, but also on Sumerian and biblical texts. A fascinating voyage to our ultimate origins."

'IN-JOY'!

...oh no, now this is starting to get weird...please do not lose us, nonlinear! : ) I thought for a minute you were totally convinced that Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life and that you believed that, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1: 1-3 KJV

[tired_of_waiting]

T Gambill I am trying to respect your rights and the right of every-one but guess what bud - attack Christianity & Freemasons and you will reap what you sew

[NonLinear]

I agree with you 100%, brother! After reading and rereading the New and Old Testament--I cannot believe that God would allow some adulterated, fake and forged Word to represent who He to a lost and dying world! If that were the case, then we would have the most justifiable excuse on THAT DAY to use for Him to let us into His Kingdom!

"After all God, your word was altered, faked, forged, misinterpreted, copied and pasted and downloaded and reconstructed together by so many so many times that it was just not my fault for not getting to know who you are and what your expectations were of me or how to live like you wanted me to..."

...oh no, now this is starting to get weird...please do not lose us, nonlinear! : ) I thought for a minute you were totally convinced that Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life and that you believed that, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1: 1-3 KJV

No worries! He was the 'way-shower' for me WAY back! He STILL is! I still love to read and correlate information though! I will share some of my experiences along this path as we go along!

The Urantia book is actually quite a good read relative to Him! I suggest you check it out!

[NonLinear]

Chocolate! This is for you!

Good question! Actually, I have quite a bit of first hand experience in detoxification and fasting for health and spiritual reasons. We did this in a clinical setting and worked with many hundreds of people. Most people did it for health reasons with superb results. The spiritual aspect would naturally take place after a while! The process itself is quite simple even for people that have never tried it.

To begin, we would have people eat raw fruit in the morning to start cleaning out the gastrointestinal tract. Fresh cut pineapple is an 'aggressive' fruit. Raw apples, bananas and grapes are great. Bananas are VERY filling. People could eat as much as they wanted to satisfy their hunger. It was not necessary to eat it all in one sitting. They could eat fruit all morning.

Lunch would be lightly steamed vegie's. No potatoes. Squash, carrots, zucchini and whatever veggies they liked. A little organic butter, extra virgin olive oil or avocado. No salt or pepper. It would take some people awhile to acclimate to getting used to unseasoned veggies yet most developed a taste for them. Most of their palates had been accustomed to eating highly seasoned cooked foods with MSG yet after a while, depending on the individual, their palates became acclimated to tasting the food itself and they developed a taste for them.

For dinner, a large raw salad along with protein. Some people had been accustomed to eating meat at dinner and for them, we would have them start cutting back on eating it every night. Maybe 3 times a week until they were able to overcome the feeling that they needed it. Steamed fish or shrimp after a would be introduced instead of meat. A couple of hard boiled eggs in the salad in place of meat or fish. The most important part of the evening meal would be the salad. The bigger the better!

If they became hungry before bed - fruit. The last thing we want to do is go to bed with a full stomach! Your body, while sleeping is cleansing and with a full stomach, it cannot do the cleansing because it would be trying to digest and assimilate.

No bread, dairy, pasta, rice or potatoes at any meal. We had a number of unhealthy macrobiotic people come to us. This program took care of most of their issues. We did not get any support from the gurus in the macrobiotic camp for obvious reasons yet they could not discount the results of their followers!

I should also mention that we had many religious denominations come to us. Usually just one would venture in and then we would end up with many more from their community come to us after they saw how their friendhad been helped. I received quite a bit of flack from some of the leaders because their diets, depending on the denomination, would have a certain food they used alot of. Dairy, sugar, ALL cooked foods, grains... An over consumption of one food and health problems usually occur.

Remember, this was a transitional period to get their body READY for fasting! We never just fasted someone right away. The amount of garbage that would come out of them would be too much for them. By the time we went through the transitional phase, they were already feeling MUCH better so they were excited to got to the next 'level'! They WANTED to continue!

I am going to post this and then come back and give you some suggestions for the next step. The next step is the fun part! It may be a couple hours yet I will return!

In Joy!

[Chooch]

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You had me up until here. The blood of Yeshua is not religious dogma, while you know much about many things, you know nothing about Divine Law, now your pushing New Age Ridiculousness.."..there is no US and Them", only exposes YOU!

AMEN BROTHER!

Not sure where you get the New Age stuff from. The basic principles of new age theory is that WE are all GODS. I fundamentally disagree with this, so no.... no new age here. That would be like calling me a Muslim event though I don't believe in Mohammad. Do you see your ignorance? Do you really know what the new age belief is? Have you even studied what you are talking about? By the way there never was a man that incarnated here on earth as the son of god named "Jesus," and wanted to be worshipped or have a religion created around him. The man's name from all evidence I have seen indicates his name was "Jeshua" (of course there are other variations of this spelling including Jehova, or Yehova etc). I do not believe in symantics in this case... so we should have his name right shouldn't we? Not getting the name right in itself can offend some very devout Christians. And yes I know quite alot about divine law or natural law, or cosmic universal law. It appears to me you are speaking in a contact of "divine law" or "cannon law." No sir.... absolutely incorrect. Cannon law (although it controls the world) is most certainly not divine, nor is the Pope, aka Vicar of Lucifer. If this offends... sorry. And no... Jeshua or lets just call him the Christ, would never want you to "bath" in his blood. Blood is used in ritual witchcraft and satanism... and there is no evidence that I have ever encountered that indicates that the Christ's blood is to be revered or metaphorically consumed during mass worship. This ritual is 100% pagan and thousands of years older then Jeshua. If you just used the blood description as an example of explaining the Christ's selfless act of self sacrifice for the rest of us, then yes... I agree 100% with you. But I don't expect you to research any of this on your own and draw your own conclusions. You just believe what you were raised to belive, or what you were told to believe by somebody, thus giving away your energy. It is definitely easier just to believe whatever the "hive" mind programs you to believe. And perhaps you didn't understand the whole US/Them example I gave... so I will try to simplify it. You have the creator (Yahweh) and you have the created (us and everything else). The error or illusion is that we are seperate from everything and the creator. This just isn't true, the creator is with everyone and everything ALL THE TIME. Get it? The Christ taught that we should take responsibility for ourselves and our actions. He taught to love yourself, your enemy, and your neighbor or "the way," as it was labled then. If you want to get right down to the meat of it, NOWHERE does it suggest that Christ even dictated that the "Father" or God should be worshipped. He preached love.... and what better way can you love somebody then to appreciate them and their creation as opposed to desecrating it and turning the earth into a cess pool. Christ got down on his knees and cleaned the feet of his loyal 12... I humbly get down on my knees and clean your feet, because that is what the Christ would do. Now back to the dinar.....

[Chooch]

Chooch, I will revisit this thread in about a week too see if you are telling people about the Anawaki from the plant Niberu who inhabit the dark side of the moon. LOL

WOW what a topic! I don't know how... I am getting bashed already and being called a New Ager by people that don't even know what New Agers believe! ... ohh well.. I seem to be pissing people off today, so why stop. YES FRIENDS, the moon is inhabited! Again, I don't know what label to put on them... I suppose we can call them the Annunaki from the Sumerian cylinders. I am only confident to say the moon is inhabited by "regressives" that do not have man's best interest at heart, and they have been there for a very long time. Richard Hogland does an ok job with exposing the lunar BS, but he seems deceptive to me about some things. Alex Collier has a great expose' about the moon and its inhabitants, which include high ranking folks from the Illuminati. One of my favorites though is John Lear... he incorporates some of his own theory, which I find mind numbing. Suffices to say though, NASA ain't telling the truth about much these days, especially that the moon is an artificeal satellite, and not indigenous to our solar system. You want to have a fun conversation,,,, find an astrophysicist that works for NASA and go up to him demanding to know why they don't tell us this stuff and watch him turn white! There is so much I am not sure about though with regard to the moon because I have read alot of "wayyyyyy out there" stuff. But I can also state confidently MARS was and is presently "OCCUPIED" as well. Supposedly we even have around half a million people living there now... this I can't confirm, but correlates with other info I heard/read. Again, I know these beings claim to be under the umbrella of "THE ORION EMPIRE." I of coures don't know... I never seen or spoken to one of them so I just call them regressives. Your guess is as good as mine though with what happens... I guess we just sit back with some popcorn and wait to see.

Check the Bloodlines between Adam and Cain to see how the seed of the serpent survived the flood,and carefully read Genisis again to understand how this is still going on to this day.

YES I agree... This for me is just not possible because I can only assume Cain's bloodline is that of Lucifer, and passes to the Illuminati. Can anyone contribute here?

[Grandmamine]

Hi Chooch, I am reading your tread, and I am mesmerazid.

So much to learn, so little time. Thank you for all the info you share here, with us who are open to learn!!!

You were an inspiration for my tread that I started and I blamed to be witch:) doesn't botter me at all, knowing most of people here been no where else but in their little town where they were born, and their town library didn't have much inventory of all the books and literature were being publishd!

I have so many questions, but I wanted to to say thanks first beforw I bombard you with questions.

Piece.