Chad Rupple Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 What if the Trillion + Dollars that our lovely Government has spent on stimulus was just a cover for the massive influx of cash that will pouring into the economy if we get a favorable RV???? Just something to think about...unless you trust our Government... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoboy007 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Don;t trust them to do the right thing with the money.....that is a shame because they could do so much good with it.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierOfIndependence Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The only thing QE1 and QE2 accomplished was point the serfs toward inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Prime Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 IMO I think Bush bailed out the banks (Which goes against his nature), and Obama spent stimulus money like it was "Black Friday", because they knew that it would all be paid back and then some, once the Iraqi Dinar revalues to its true value. Bush has stated that the Iraq war will pay for itself, and Obama seems to have no concern that he can cover the enormous tab that he is running up. Only a miracle could take care of the problems that the US and the world have gotten themselves into. We are a select few that actually have knowledge of this "miracle" that is about to happen. GO RV!!! 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahiMahi Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The Bilderberg Group and the rest of the Elitists that run this country from behind it's curtains would never allow it... It's a happy thought though! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brussell Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I very seldom use the words Trust and Government in the same sentence. About as rare as Trust and Politician. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahiMahi Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 So what is your statement supposed to meen????? Our country is in this hole because that's exactly where they want us... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brussell Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 And really, even if all US debt were paid off, does anyone really believe taxes would be lowered proportionately? No, the debt may be paid off short term, but governments, especially big governments (like the one we have now) is designed to spend money. So that's what would happen, until another 50 years passes and we're in as much debt, if not more, as we are now. It would be nice to start with a clean slate, I'm just not sure how much it would really benefit, or even affect, the average tax-paying citizen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simple Man Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 If they gave the money to the people instead of trying to prop up failing businesses, then the businesses that were effective would survive and the others would go under. They are only interested in keeping the labor unions happy so they keep those companies in the black instead of putting the monies in the hands where it would do the most good for all America. Instead they put it where they get thier campaign contributions!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Bsure Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 New congress, new pay raise? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknet73 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Interesting concept. Not sure I trust the govt. too much but if what benefits them benefits me and my family then so be it. I think George W. deserves the credit though for making the difficult decisions that ultimately have liberated Iraq and given them and us many wonderful opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inside Track Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 IMO I think Bush bailed out the banks (Which goes against his nature), and Obama spent stimulus money like it was "Black Friday", because they knew that it would all be paid back and then some, once the Iraqi Dinar revalues to its true value. Bush has stated that the Iraq war will pay for itself, and Obama seems to have no concern that he can cover the enormous tab that he is running up. Only a miracle could take care of the problems that the US and the world have gotten themselves into. We are a select few that actually have knowledge of this "miracle" that is about to happen. GO RV!!! Go Ahead Optimus....Tell it like it is...! Even Miracles can be "mind boggling". And, I agree, this "miracle" is about to happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Rupple Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Let me rephrase my statement.... What if the trillion + dollars stimulus money never existed??? In other words...the Government just threw that number out there thinking the Iraqi Government would RV and our all cash would be used to stimulate our ecomony. That way, Obama (a man who is not qualified to run a lemonade stand) could take all the credit...Just sayin... 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha ha Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The new congress will take care of business or else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierOfIndependence Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 And really, even if all US debt were paid off, does anyone really believe taxes would be lowered proportionately? No, the debt may be paid off short term, but governments, especially big governments (like the one we have now) is designed to spend money. So that's what would happen, until another 50 years passes and we're in as much debt, if not more, as we are now. It would be nice to start with a clean slate, I'm just not sure how much it would really benefit, or even affect, the average tax-paying citizen. You are spot on. Period. It's like having an irresponsible relative that maxed out his credit card. You step in, pay it off for him, clean slate. It's no surprise one year later, the credit card is maxed out again. The only way the irresponsible relative learns responsibility is by sacrificing, paying off the card through frugality (which, BTW, is not a bad word), and developing self control along the way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behaviorkat Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Yeah... this is all sick and twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugDawg1 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Meet the new Boss....Same as the old Boss....I hope we won't be fooled again. Otherwise HA HA's gonna get her gun! Okay, Who's Next. Baba O'Reilley in politcal wasteland. Oh ya. Ya know, the sad part of it is that I would gladly pay all my taxes on this if I thought they would be used for the good. As it is, I'll just pay my taxes. Nothing glad about it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerplayer Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 With due respect to many on this site, I have read some very unusual conspiracy theories. I chose to believe Iraq is just plain lazy and loves holidays. Just me I guess, pp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclegeek Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 IMO I think Bush bailed out the banks (Which goes against his nature), and Obama spent stimulus money like it was "Black Friday", because they knew that it would all be paid back and then some, once the Iraqi Dinar revalues to its true value. Bush has stated that the Iraq war will pay for itself, and Obama seems to have no concern that he can cover the enormous tab that he is running up. Only a miracle could take care of the problems that the US and the world have gotten themselves into. We are a select few that actually have knowledge of this "miracle" that is about to happen. GO RV!!! Sorry optimus, but I can't give you that one. Maybe bush did something against his values, but that's about it. Obama is a plant from a group intent on taking over the country from the inside. They believe that by crashing the country by debt, they can remake the US due way they want it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierOfIndependence Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 There's no law that states we are liable to pay taxes on income from employment.... Not to mention criminal....federal withholding is a direct violation of the 4th amendment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugDawg1 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Not to mention criminal....federal withholding is a direct violation of the 4th amendment... You mean.....our beloved government is.......trampling on our constutionally guaranteed rights? Nooooo. It would be interesting to see a list of how many actual rights they have violated. How many, in what way they were violated, the degree of the violation, all that kind of stuff. Probably stroke out in anger but still.... Build the list, back it up and circulate it all over everywhere. Edited November 24, 2010 by JugDawg1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierOfIndependence Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 O.K..... this is working.... I already have two of you signed up for the revolution. At this rate we'd have enough to storm the City Hall of a small town by the end of the week. That in turn would inspire an uprising...skys the limit after that. Just one condition before we get started.....I get to be Prime Minister!!! Conk, if you're gonna be the PM, no need for elections!!! I'm in!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captjohn Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Let me rephrase my statement.... What if the trillion + dollars stimulus money never existed??? In other words...the Government just threw that number out there thinking the Iraqi Government would RV and our all cash would be used to stimulate our ecomony. That way, Obama (a man who is not qualified to run a lemonade stand) could take all the credit...Just sayin... Obama is nothing more than a smooth-talking empty suit. The real dangerous one is the puppet master, George Soros. Check him out. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus Prime Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Sorry optimus, but I can't give you that one. Maybe bush did something against his values, but that's about it. Obama is a plant from a group intent on taking over the country from the inside. They believe that by crashing the country by debt, they can remake the US due way they want it. unclegeek...I do agree with you on that point. We seem to be getting attacked from within. He is doing something that our enemies could never accomplish. America is on course to implode, unless our people wake up to what is happening. The pot is slowly warming, as we largely sit here and ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_13 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I feel this matches the topic well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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