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On 3/27/2024 at 9:57 PM, divemaster5734 said:

I agree with the generator start and potential phasing issues.

Initial thoughts on the multiple flashes..it is possible they have power supplied from both shores, which would account for two flashes.

The problem with the others is once there is a dead short condition the power supply overcurrent device will trip, eliminating the power.

You know they had shunt breakers before the 70's, although most were not correctly coordinated, that wouldn't have any bearing on this event.

Ground fault protection came out in first code in 1976, I'm sure the system was updated a couple times since built.

Giving the benefit of doubt to circuits supplied by multiple feeds, with one mile plus of structure you'll have at least 20 circuits between 24 volts to 480 volts, for general lighting, sign lighting, street lighting, data signal, aircraft lights/strobes, walkway lights, and a multitude of sensors and fire fighting appliances.

Once the conductors are pulled apart at the junctions I don't believe the capacitive inductance would be great enough to create the successive flashes.

It is very possible that several fixtures were emergency rated with battery or capacitor stored energy, but you wouldn't get that backfed into the supply lines.

Static discharge in this application would not be present due to the existing bonding of the structure.

This is all total conjecture, as I obviously have no inside info on the wiring system.

There may be a perfectly plausible explanation for five or six large arc flash discharges due to redundant systems, but I would need to see the schematics to erase the doubts that video creates.

I didn't know you were a Sparky.. me too. 

 

I was also a Sparky for a very long time.  Agree with your analysis, without more knowledge of the electrical system I can only use practical knowledge and guess, but the last short circuit on the video looks like it came from an electrical cable swinging down.  Don't know the last time an Arc Flash study was done, so it's all a guess.  JMO

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59 minutes ago, boosterbglee said:

I was also a Sparky for a very long time.  Agree with your analysis, without more knowledge of the electrical system I can only use practical knowledge and guess, but the last short circuit on the video looks like it came from an electrical cable swinging down.  Don't know the last time an Arc Flash study was done, so it's all a guess.  JMO

Looking at the video again there are aircraft strobes at at least three locations.

I'll guarantee those had battery backup's, and the additional flashes now look to be those same red strobes on battery as they are heading to to bottom of the river.

There appears to be an initial flash at the top of the support that was struck, which makes sense as electrical.

Not saying there wasn't nefarious actions that caused the collision, but I'm now a little skeptic of multiple explosive charges pre-placed to ensure a catastrophic event.

JMHO.

 

Am retiring this year, after 48 years in the trenches.

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2 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

Looking at the video again there are aircraft strobes at at least three locations.

I'll guarantee those had battery backup's, and the additional flashes now look to be those same red strobes on battery as they are heading to to bottom of the river.

There appears to be an initial flash at the top of the support system" rel="">support that was struck, which makes sense as electrical.

Not saying there wasn't nefarious actions that caused the collision, but I'm now a little skeptic of multiple explosive charges pre-placed to ensure a catastrophic event.

JMHO.

 

Am retiring this year, after 48 years in the trenches.

My first inclination was naturally one of suspicion. Especially with respect to the appearance of explosions. But after listening to you guys ( whom I would consider real experts ) and then seeing an aerial of how far that ship went through the bridge, I think it's safe to say at the least, that the ship brought it down without the need for explosives. 

 

As to terrorist aspects I still have many questions. The first being why have they not removed the crew? Which now makes me wonder if they are even still alive.  Immediately after the incident I would have had the crew removed from the scene by chopper. 

 

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11 minutes ago, MyLadiesDaddy said:

My first inclination was naturally one of suspicion. Especially with respect to the appearance of explosions. But after listening to you guys ( whom I would consider real experts ) and then seeing an aerial of how far that ship went through the bridge, I think it's safe to say at the least, that the ship brought it down without the need for explosives. 

 

As to terrorist aspects I still have many questions. The first being why have they not removed the crew? Which now makes me wonder if they are even still alive.  Immediately after the incident I would have had the crew removed from the scene by chopper. 

 

I don't pretend to know everything about cargo ship crews and passport requirements, but after spending a few years fixing the cranes at the Port of Seattle I do know that a lot of those foreign crews don't have actual passports and are not allowed to get off the ship unless under direct approved escort.

That would explain the Walmart shopping trip by the NGO agency.

They have decent accommodations on board.

Game rooms with billiard tables, arcades, etc., internet,  exercise rooms, some even have those small swim pools where you basically just swim in place.

They were obviously just stocked with food and diesel for their next segment.

The best short term solution would be to leave them in relative comfort in familiar surroundings otherwise they would have to be in a secured location with guards.

Often the crews would be waving from the ship, but only one or two could go to town.

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As I said earlier about the consequences, taking out this bridge is a wet dream for an enemy state. It will cause severe supply issues for years. And that will cause inflation to skyrocket. 

Sadly, I don't think this is the end. Much more to come. .

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, MyLadiesDaddy said:

As I said earlier about the consequences, taking out this bridge is a wet dream for an enemy state. It will cause severe supply issues for years. And that will cause inflation to skyrocket. 

Sadly, I don't think this is the end. Much more to come. .

 

 

 

I agree completely.

Am putting my home up for sale by end of May.

Getting out of Washington and probably going to Texas.

Don't want to be anywhere around a blue state when they unleash the illegal krakens.

I'm rural, next to a large joint base, but just 10 miles away is libtard central.

 

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4 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

That bridge was just waiting to come down.

 

4 hours ago, MyLadiesDaddy said:

taking out this bridge is a wet dream

Another thing I find interesting is the fact that two different videos were taken

simultaneously.

 

Like perfect timing to film the exact ship at the exact time.

 

The 1st mayday call was at 1:24 am and the ship hit at 1:29 am.

 

Who's up filming a ship at 1:24 am on a Tuesday? LOL

 

Maybe they are security cameras and were in place.

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15 minutes ago, Markinsa said:

Expert Ships Engineer Reacts to Baltimore Bridge Crash

https://youtu.be/BEzDh4RwpaM

 

Good find.

On all land based infrastructure and critical systems,(no fail), throughout all county, state, and federal facilities involving essential mechanical systems there are Lead/Lag redundant pumps, controls, etc, along with emergency backup.

Anytime I've been involved in any operation, from remodel to emergency repair bypass, we have always had the failsafe motivator operating in standby.

I realize the ship launch is a lot more mundane than 500,000 people served in a regional area possibly losing their fresh water supply for an hour, or 1m + people's toilets suddenly backing up, but after spending years in the public works projects I'm still seriously gobsmacked  they didn't have everything at the ready.

Again, it's very likely that anyone who has done those maneuvers on ships 1000 times had long ago become so familiar with the environment they became contemptuous of the risk. 

There's enough plausibility in human error to rule out intentional cyber takeover, but there's still the big question of did a cyber attack cause the loss of power in the first place.

It seems too perfect a location to experience the catastrophic event to be chance.

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2 minutes ago, divemaster5734 said:

Anytime I've been involved in any operation, from remodel to emergency repair bypass, we have always had the failsafe motivator operating in standby.

 

I can't say what the procedure is now on US Navy Ships, but when I was in and we were leaving/entering port, we had all the critical watch stations manned. 

 

I've stood Aft Steering Watch, which is located at the tail end of the ship where all the hydraulics are located to steer the ship.  If the connection between the bridge and the Aft Steering was disabled, we could still steer the ship from the Aft Location.

 

I've stood Anchor Watch, which controlled the motors to raise the ship's anchor. 

 

I've stood Emergency Generator Watch.  The generator wasn't running but we (A-Gang, Diesel Mechanics) were there to make sure that generator would run.

 

And most importantly, for the electricians, the Main Switchboard Watch, which was the central location for power distribution. 

 

And like that expert said, they really on had about 5 minutes to respond to the emergency.  For that situation, these stations should have been manned.  But unfortunately, it appears this ship wasn't staffed to react properly for this type of emergency.

 

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7 hours ago, MyLadiesDaddy said:

We are under attack. I absolutely do not believe in coincidences. 

 

 

 

 

 

Too many coincidences as far as I'm concerned. If their is nefarious issues from an attack from a different Country, then it needs to be dealt with, firmly and swiftly.

 

Great find my friend. Time will tell.

 

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1 hour ago, pokerplayer said:

 

Too many coincidences as far as I'm concerned. If their is nefarious issues from an attack from a different Country, then it needs to be dealt with, firmly and swiftly.

 

Great find my friend. Time will tell.

 

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Thanks my friend.  Most people only focus on a story for about a week. They never hear," the rest of the story". 

That's how they bury the truth. 

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7 hours ago, MyLadiesDaddy said:

That's how they bury the truth. 

As the world's technology progresses exponentially, it will become easier and easier for these "coincidences" to occur and be made to look like accidents so the sheeple to fall in line and be blinded to what is actually occurring right under their noses!!

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7 hours ago, MyLadiesDaddy said:

Seems like we're not the only conspiracy believers. 

 

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/maryland-bridge-collapse/2024/04/15/id/1161028/

 

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It was too blatantly obvious.

I read something about an anti-communist group operating inside China that's trying to gain the momentum to overthrow the ruling Party there.

They informed an outside contact about the name of the malware that allows the state sponsored hackers to take full control of entire systems, like SCADA,( a type of infrastructure operating/control system), then send commands to cause catastrophic failures.

It can be sent through WIFI.

Every water system, sewer system, electrical generating or distribution, manufacturing plant, and high-rise has multiple data OP's, from operations to security to fire suppression, and remotely turning off alarms, changing set points, sensor parameters, etc, can cause anything from fires to explosions, to the release of highly toxic gas.

There are several manufacturing processes that utilize air scrubbers to remove stuff like cyanide from the exhaust system just before that same exhaust is released into the local atmosphere.

I've work on several systems that vent their exhaust in places surrounded by highly populated residential areas.

This could be the beginning of something really, really bad.

In truth, we may never know the full extent, at least not through the MSM.

 

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