bostonangler Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 The White House on Wednesday released a memo summarizing President Trump’s controversial July 25 phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump repeatedly urged Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter, who sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company during Biden’s term as vice president. Biden at the time was in the lead for the Democratic nomination to run against Trump in 2020. Even before the memo was released, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi acceded to mounting calls from fellow Democrats to open a formal impeachment inquiry against the president. Trump referred to the five-page document as a transcript. But the memo itself cautions that the text is “not a verbatim transcript of a discussion” but rather “the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and [National Security Council] policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/full-memo-transcript-trump-phone-call-ukraine-president-zelensky-biden-151319799.html Once again Trump has mislead his people... It is not a transcript as he told the public, it is a memo which is someone's written opinion, not what was spoken. Is anyone not surprised he would once again decieve the people to protect his lack of leadership and to hide his lack of comprehension of what it means to be the president. Can someone pass me a Sharpie? B/A 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 White House accidentally sends anti-impeachment talking points to Democrats The White House accidentally sent its anti-impeachment talking points intended for allies in Congress to House Democrats. On Wednesday morning, the White House emailed its media strategy for defending President Trump against the charge that he tried to bribe or coerce Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the son of former Vice President Joe Biden in a phone call on July 25. Along with House Republicans who will likely be asked about the impeachment inquiry every time they speak to the media, the president’s team also sent them to some of the Democrats investigating him, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. According to copies of the emails obtained by Yahoo News, about 40 minutes after sending the talking points out, the White House attempted to recall them. Photo illustration: Yahoo News; photos: AP, via Twitter The talking points urge allies to reiterate that Trump made no promises to Zelensky and that he didn’t bring up his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, until his Ukrainian counterpart brought him up. The White House memo summarizing the conversation, released to the public a few hours before, shows that Trump sought Zelensky’s cooperation as a “favor,” but does not contain a specific offer of a quid pro quo. At the time, much-needed American military aid for Ukraine had been held up for unexplained reasons, reportedly at the request of the White House. The completeness of the memo cannot be independently verified. The White House referred to it as a transcript, but the document itself states it is “not a verbatim transcript of a discussion” but rather “the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and [National Security Council] policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.” Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., told MSNBC that the White House had called Republicans in Congress to look over the memo and go over talking points before its release. Congress has called for the White House to release the details of a complaint by an unnamed whistleblower in the intelligence community, related to Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, that is the basis of the impeachment investigation announced by Pelosi Tuesday. https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-impeachment-talking-points-democrats-email-recall-170508969.html Open mouth insert foot. B/A 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 So if this is “the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and [National Security Council] policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.” what more is there to present? If there was an actual recording then they could listen to the recording as many times as needed to get a verbatim printed transcript. I think what you are getting is the complete phone call. That Caution Statement is probably at the bottom of every transcript as a guide and for informational purposes. JMO. Otherwise they could just authorize and actual audio file and the world could hear what was said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Trump's Ukraine Transcript Reveals That Democrats Made A Huge Mistake, Are Helping Trump | Tim Pool Indy 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, cranman said: what more is there to present? The question is... What's hide? Why not release it if there is nothing to it, like he said. Why give out a memo which is subject to opinion, rewrites and more fantasy... I really thought this time he would come clean.... B/A 2 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, bostonangler said: The question is... What's hide? Why not release it if there is nothing to it, like he said. Why give out a memo which is subject to opinion, rewrites and more fantasy... I really thought this time he would come clean.... B/A Just what did he Hide...He Said he was going to Release it and all of the sudden the Dems were Screaming that is not good enough....We Demand the Whistle Blowers Full Complaint......So the Party of Impeachment get a transcripts and there is Nothing There....They call it a Memo and they want the real evidence, the Real Transcript that fits the Impeachment Narrative they laid out on the table the day before with out any Evidence.....Pelosi and the rest just made their point again....They will do anything the save their collective, corrupt asses from Trump Exposing what they have been doing to the American People for decades. It wouldn't matter what POTUS Trump turned over it was never going to be what they wanted.....Sorta like the Guru's keep moving the Goal Post. Karsten 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats? https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/437719-ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats?fbclid=IwAR0Y9HShnzGD9uJ1zimFQZSdXjjZ4URjyuWKvbTfuuososuDkMlIvjPNlns Karsten 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 10 hours ago, bostonangler said: The question is... What's hide? Why not release it if there is nothing to it, like he said. Why give out a memo which is subject to opinion, rewrites and more fantasy... I really thought this time he would come clean.... B/A He released the full transcript as created by law and you dang well know it. To pretend you don't is lying. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: He released the full transcript as created by law and you dang well know it. To pretend you don't is lying. He released a memo... Truth will set you free... What's the big deal if he is clean? His followers will hold out until the end, but watch how his party starts to turn on him... Good or bad he is a threat to the system, and they will protect their interests in the end. JMHO B/A 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 And I thought you guys were against secret governments, cover-ups and The Deep State... I guess not. B/A 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Truth will set you free. You should try it. Yahoo is NOT TRUTH. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, bostonangler said: And I thought you guys were against secret governments, cover-ups and The Deep State... I guess not. B/A You just described the Democratic Socialists Party and their hate filled deranged lunatic fringe. Not Trump. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: You should try it. Yahoo is NOT TRUTH. Did you read the memo? It states this is not "verbatim". So that makes it incomplete and subject to be edited. A secret government. Who supports that idea? Well the Kommies do. B/A 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: You just described the Democratic Socialists Party and their hate filled deranged lunatic fringe. Not Trump. I thought so too, but it appears Trump and his followers are now in support of shadow government ideals. When did it become okay to accept any politician at their word? It might be okay for some, but not for me. B/A 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Did you read the memo? It states this is not "verbatim". So that makes it incomplete and subject to be edited. A secret government. Who supports that idea? Well the Kommies do. B/A Most calls of this kind are monitored by multiple 3 letter agencies which makes real time notes on the conversation. They are not "edited" ,and you KNOW THAT. To do so would require all those agencies to be working together in an unprecedented way. And most certainly would have been totally exposed by now. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Most calls of this kind are monitored by multiple 3 letter agencies which makes real time notes on the conversation. They are not "edited" ,and you KNOW THAT. To do so would require all those agencies to be working together in an unprecedented way. And most certainly would have been totally exposed by now. You are right and that could be the HUGE problem... In the old days things could be covered up, but today nothing is secure and things always come out. Of course if our security agencies come out tomorrow with anything that points to illegal activity, Trump's followers will never believe it and will call everyone a liar accept Trump... True? B/A 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 State of Delusion: Democrats Privately Panic Following Transcript, Impeachment Fallout Democrats and Republicans demonstrated starkly different reactions following the release of the unredacted transcript of President Trump’s conversation with the president of Ukraine. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/25/state-of-delusion-democrats-privately-panic-following-transcript-impeachment-fallout/?fbclid=IwAR0JIpJh41Ik0LW7Ru-5YkPs1oKYG31HPP1_0ewYLfKyNav0zWSAhEpgjA0 Karsten 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Whistleblower Did Not Want Trump Reelected, Never Heard Ukraine Phone Call https://americaisonline.com/whistleblower-did-not-want-trump-reelected-never-heard-ukraine-phone-call/?fbclid=IwAR3ft4hhs8U1-m_wsglPlbjB5k1smJyyGz5_EY5y_R4It8lrbrdFwb5mGYM The DOJ Confirms The Trump Whistleblower Was Politically Motivated https://www.chicksonright.com/opinion/2019/09/25/the-doj-confirms-the-trump-whistleblower-was-politically-motivated/?utm_source=msp Well, That fell apart fast.....Big Nothing Burger Again......When will the Liberals learn their Cheating is hurting them? Karsten 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Read the full whistleblower complaint against Trump https://news.yahoo.com/full-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-trump-125238707.html How will the legions of trumpkins spin Donald's effort to place a non-classified transcript on a secure server?....Should be fun to watch the irony play out in front of us. GO RV, then BV 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Adam Schiff Makes Up Entire Conversation With Trump That Never Happened https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/adam-schiff-makes-entire-conversation-trump-never-happened?fbclid=IwAR1_pt3JKw8X04Rtj72Uif8v-srQ5MudJwal5uySCf01d_p4gVjD_lx2Hfs Karsten 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Read the full whistleblower complaint against Trump https://news.yahoo.com/full-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-trump-125238707.html How will the legions of trumpkins spin Donald's effort to place a non-classified transcript on a secure server?....Should be fun to watch the irony play out in front of us. GO RV, then BV This isn't about Bite me Biden, this is about Trump going after the Democratic Socialists Party for starting the fake Russia collusion attempt to overthrow his election. Trump NEVER said, "I need you to do me a favor and investigate Biden". He did say, ...favor, look into what happened during the 2016 election with respect to Cloudstrike. Trump knows full well that the Deep State inside the intelligence community is out to destroy him and so this info was placed in the super secure area to protect it from the intelligence community until Trump was ready to release it. This began back in 2018 and I suspect that all the documentation proving the actions of the Democratic Socialists Party are in Trump's possession. Heads are going to roll. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Karsten said: Adam Schiff Makes Up Entire Conversation With Trump That Never Happened https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/adam-schiff-makes-entire-conversation-trump-never-happened?fbclid=IwAR1_pt3JKw8X04Rtj72Uif8v-srQ5MudJwal5uySCf01d_p4gVjD_lx2Hfs Karsten Lying is what the Democratic Socialists Party does best. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Trump NEVER said, "I need you to do me a favor and investigate Biden". And I quote “I would like you to do us a favor though,” Trump replied to Zelensky’s request for additional military assistance, “because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it.” He does ask for a favor to find out about the situation involving Biden's son. So why deny it? B/A 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Karsten said: Adam Schiff Makes Up Entire Conversation With Trump That Never Happened https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/adam-schiff-makes-entire-conversation-trump-never-happened?fbclid=IwAR1_pt3JKw8X04Rtj72Uif8v-srQ5MudJwal5uySCf01d_p4gVjD_lx2Hfs Karsten I'm sure glad Schiff was able to clear that up and tell us what the president INTENDED to say and instead of what he did say. A fine example of why nothing ever gets done in congress and why they can't compromise. They never listen to what is said but hear loud and clear what is supposedly intended. Buffoons each and every one. Edited September 26, 2019 by cranman spelling 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Lying is what the Democratic Socialists Party does best. They're not the only ones lying... But they may indeed do it better than Don the con. B/A 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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