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Yesterday was several county's caucus in Washington State.

You would think it'd be no big deal, since the delegates are by law required to vote for the popular vote candidate.

Not quite, that only holds for the first round, and if the establishment gets it's way, there will be no presumptive delegate.

Why is that bad?

Because they can then impose ANY candidate they want, and force the nomination.

If you look at recent primaries, Rubio is being listed as getting votes. and delegates.

Are you ready for Jeb Bush to be POTUS?

How about Clinton?

While hopefully Cruz believes he will get the nomination from the establishment, he can just as easily only be the unwitting tool that the PTB's use to disregard America's candidate, and install their own.

Heck, they can disrupt the convention and make Michelle Obama the GOP candidate.

I witnessed strong arm tactics imposed by gangs of Cruz thugs who took over the delegate selection process, and they were given free reign by the establishment "leadership" who was in control of the caucus proceedings.

There were hundreds of write in delegate candidates, they were't allowed to nominate themselves, but someone else was, so they nominated each other.

After an absurd amount of procedural issues, we finally took the vote.

There were enough of us actual PCO's to influence it so that on the 1st round we had a pretty good cross section  of community representatives who have been active long enough to actually understand and respect our neighbor's wishes.

During the lengthy process, it became obvious the delegate selection was going as planned, and then the newly elected chair stopped the process to order special markings be put on the voting sheets.

Once the votes were collected, most of the regular PCO's took off after waiting for the tally that was taking far too long, but we were reassured everything was OK, and having other obligations, several took off.

Then, it was announced all the vote sheets were voided, because of what the chairman had ordered people to mark on their sheets.

Even though it was only the new gang that screwed up their sheets, they threw out all of them, which meant everyone's vote that had just left was tossed, and the write in newcomers outnumbered the remaining PCO's 20 to 1.

The Cruz thugs were given boxed lunches, and ate during the process.

We were told there would be a lunch break, and it was in the schedule. I had planned on a sub shop that was close by that I dont get to very often.

I got back from a quick 20 minute lunch and realized they did not stop, and only the Cruz thugs were around to vote on procedural changes for the day that just happened to benefit them.

I was about to get another vote sheet and noticed the usurpers passing around a sheet that had the names of everyone that was either undeclared, or declared Trump.

It was easy to see none of the numbers to the names on the list were circled on the vote sheets held by the write-ins.

I went to the delegate board, crossed out my name, eliminating myself from being either a state or national delegate, and left the building.

This election is being rigged at this moment.

Cruz is so determined to make POTUS he has accepted money and favors from Wall Street and establishment RINOS.

You can bet, if he makes it, he will own them big time, but then, all they have to do is stop Trump, and they can put in their own guy.

They have been sure to let everyone know the 2016 rules have not yet been decided.

I have to admit, I was far too optimistic, and very naive.

I believed with all my heart that if I just showed people the truth they would be grown up enough to accept it.

I never counted on the power of denial.

While the American Public is being bombarded with pro socialist propaganda, conditioned to accept anything anti-America is good, and traditional beliefs are bad, they are also being treated to an onslaught of Nazism from the left, disguised as "political correctness".

The Nazis are busily destroying all voices that do not agree with their twisted perspective.

While the angry left is in their face, the elites are colluding behind their backs, using sleight of hand and creative rule making to impose yet another globalist on America.

The socialists are blind to the reality it is the elites that are demanding it.

It will put free will to rest forever, and ensure a class of ultra powerful that will live in luxury forever, sucking the life out of the commoners.

I know a lot of people understand what is going on, but unless and until humans unite against the oppressors, we will be cheated of, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

I'm done.

After over a decade donating thousands of hours, working phone banks, parades, protests, demonstrations, writing articles, defending conservatism, it is now apparent.

Until a majority of people understand that without freedom we have nothing, and until we fight for our freedom like there is nothing else to lose, we will lose everything.

The time for talk is over, it is time to get out, assemble in the street with our countrymen, refuse to go to work, shut down commerce and government with peaceful demonstrations, because if we are not willing to get off our rear ends to stand up for ourselves, I can promise you, no one else will.

If any still believe Cruz is a patriot, just look at his donor list.

How, I wonder, is Cruz any different than George Bush?

Besides the fact he is only married into wall street, and the Bushes own part of it.

Really though, it doesn't matter, other than the fact they are intentionally stealing your vote, and Cruz knows it.

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Divemaster is this your thoughts or is this a article? If its yours then you are/were a delegate? If so it is very discouraging indeed. I have been thinking the elections are actually selections myself.

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Cruz is so determined to make POTUS he has accepted money and favors from Wall Street and establishment RINOS.

 

Of course, but the problem also is he has fooled those who support him. The dreadful truth and message that is in everyones face

is simply, our vote does not matter. They win, we continue to think we make a difference, they continue to commit crime against

the people. We are no match for the psycho's and power hungry thugs that have stolen the republic. But it was stolen many years ago

and no one noticed. There is hope, but not within the system we now have. Those within it will stop at nothing to continue the fraud.

BOTH parties...the same.

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If this is true, there is a concerted effort by the Republican establishment to have a contested convention. I wonder why that is? Don't put it past them to look past both Trump and Cruz to find their candidate. If Trump & Cruz were smart, they would unite forces to ensure one of them was elected. Right now, the fighting and rancor is only going to ensure the election of HC.

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LOM this is DM's thoughts as a Precinct Committee Officer as he observed at the county Caucus.

So IMHO as an outside observer his opinion and what he states is true, so Agree with Indraman with the push to have a contested election. 

DM why not approach Trump camp and report these events and see what pressure he can bring on the situation.

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We've taken some pretty serious heat here for trying to expose CRUZ for the Jr.Illuminati tool he is and

his close association with the powerful cartel pushing the global agenda... he is a BushBaby.

we've tried to shed light on the Bush cartel and their decades-old involvement in that NWO / OWO agenda.

 

We've criticized the electoral college and pushed for all here to more closely scrutinize what is occurring at their hands.

We're sorry our respected friend DIVE had to see it first hand.

It's enough to shatter a Patriotic heart.

 

Hopefully enough Patriots will rise up and push back against the advent of evil-doers which are manifesting themselves as

caring and concerned Patriotic Americans.

They are deceptive MANIPULATORS' destroying the honorable intent of our process...

hell-bent on destroying our Republic.

 

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On 4/11/2016 at 6:07 PM, Jim1cor13 said:

 

 

ok, I give.

Cant figure out this new site.

 

The OP was written by myself, and was what I personally experienced on Saturday 4/09/2016.

In the post I briefly explained that Cruz is being used as a patsy for the establishment.

That statement was confirmed a couple days afterwards.

Paul Ryan released a statement in which he declared he was not interested in being nominated.

How could he even say that if he never even announced he was running?

Because it is as I said, all that needs to happen is that Trump is cheated out of his delegates and the convention is wide open for the GOP to put anyone on the ticket.

What Cruz is doing is vile. He has lost all personal respect, he knows he is acting without honor, and he is so corrupted by his lust for power he is not letting anything get in his way, especially not the demands of the very peoples he claims to represent.

Whether he has personally justified this deception to himself by resolving to act with honor AFTER he gets the job no one can know, but the means do not justify the ends, especially when his entire platform is built on trust and respect.

After all, how could we know if Abraham Lincoln actually would  rescind deceleration of America being in a state of emergency when the war was over, he was murdered before he had a chance, but the fact remains, no president since Lincoln has bothered to remove that status, and America has been governed by rules that are only valid due to the state of emergency declared by Abraham Lincoln in 1862 is still in effect today.

Trump knows he's being cheated, and just the fact he is is enough to throw doubt on Cruz.

The people that showed up en masse were not cordial, not pleasant, were obviously sent by a singular source, and were following instructions.

In hindsight I should have taken some of the documents they were passing around among each other.

Unfortunately, I was in a state of shock.

A good turnout for all other previous monthly meetings was 40 to 60. Saturday,there were over 1100 just for one district.

Understand, three days before this caucus they extended the declaration to 72 hours before start because there wasn't even  enough delegates to fill the 26 open positions.

None of the new write ins even showed up at the public caucus, and by established rules they were not eligible to even attend  county.

Instead, they were not only allowed to attend, they were allowed to vote each other to delegate.

During the morning hours of procedural BS I had noticed a posture that made me uneasy, but just discounted it.

Those of us that were voted in before at the public caucus all were given name tag ID's in lanyards that were color coded to indicate status as certified delegate.

The write ins all had one of those stupid peel off "hi my name is" stickers.

I felt eyes burning into the back of my head several times, and had complete strangers glare at me with open hostility when they saw the lanyard.

It was a planned, and well executed, takeover of the election process, and it only happened because the trusted officials allowed it to.

We still do have a chance, but only if people accept the truth, and decide to make a stand.

I am still convinced they can not throw a landslide election.

Until more people stop listening to main stream media, I'm afraid the powers that  be will remain in full control.

Flyhi, I did send in an email. I was contacted by the Trump campaign weeks ago, and already had some correspondence.

Haven't heard anything back yet, and honestly don't expect to. Thank you for your words.

I am only one of many thousands of active PCO's or equivalent, and I have no doubt the Trump camp realizes their mistake.

The sad part about that is Trump obviously thought all he would need is to have the majority of voting Americans on his side.

He has discovered that doesn't mean very much if the other side has all the power cards.

To me it also proves his integrity.

He refused to compromise his ethics, but now he has to pay the price for his honesty.

Hopefully it wont include global ridicule at the end of the election.

 

What's crazy is Cruz was at the top of my list, one down from Carson.

Understand folks, this may easily be the last time we have a chance to toss the establishment without violence.

Thank you all for your time.

DM

 

 

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Thanks DM ! It is quite possible that you are right, however we have our Lord who will make the change if we can't. That's what I know and that's what I believe!

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At the high risk of getting another verbal beating......Damn the torpedoes!  I read this entire thread and have no reason to doubt Dive's firsthand account of the corruption in play.  I can't quite wrap my mind around the antics there in Washington state, but with regards to the debacle in Colorado......Trump had just as much notice about the rules as every other candidate.  I would certainly think a billionaire world wide business man and the author of the "Art of the Deal" would have the savvy to surround himself with the best and most experienced campaign managers money could buy from the get go.  Just my opinion, but those types of people had to be beating his door down to work for him.  Now, another point would be, every time his multiple bankruptcies are brought up, his defense is always that he played within the laws on the books.  Well here we are. Voting rules are on the books.....and he's whining because of a self-inflicted missed opportunity.  Bash away.  :D

GO RV, then BV

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10 hours ago, Texstorm said:

Thanks DM ! It is quite possible that you are right, however we have our Lord who will make the change if we can't. That's what I know and that's what I believe!

That has been my secret power. At times, the singular thread that has kept me tethered, firmed my resolve, and kept me going.

Amen, my brother, amen.

8 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

At the high risk of getting another verbal beating......Damn the torpedoes!  I read this entire thread and have no reason to doubt Dive's firsthand account of the corruption in play.  I can't quite wrap my mind around the antics there in Washington state, but with regards to the debacle in Colorado......Trump had just as much notice about the rules as every other candidate.  I would certainly think a billionaire world wide business man and the author of the "Art of the Deal" would have the savvy to surround himself with the best and most experienced campaign managers money could buy from the get go.  Just my opinion, but those types of people had to be beating his door down to work for him.  Now, another point would be, every time his multiple bankruptcies are brought up, his defense is always that he played within the laws on the books.  Well here we are. Voting rules are on the books.....and he's whining because of a self-inflicted missed opportunity.  Bash away.  :D

GO RV, then BV

No need for "a bashing", it is unfortunately a presumed valid position, and at the same time a very sad statement of today's perspective.

Perhaps I didn't explain well.

What happened in Washington wasn't actually "on the books". The only thing set in stone regarding Rules of Parliamentary Procedure is, nothing is set in stone, other than the rules will be changed to suit the ruling party's agenda.

They changed the rules for the caucus on the day of the caucus.

Not all the rules, just the ones that allowed the Cruz invaders to perform a takeover.

The only way Trump could have had enough power to fight off the attack would have been for his team to have first anticipated the illegal actions, and then taken the time to "seed" the communities with his supporters, who would have been on standby nearby, ready to make a counter invasion on the building.

But then, that would have required a deceptive and manipulative mentality. He would have had to engage in organizing that would have been considered unethical.

Does this mean it's OK to steal? Can we go rob a bank as long as we have a good excuse?

Just because you may not like Trump does that mean everyone else is entitled to cheat to eliminate him?

Why are his rights not as valid?

Isn't that the whole problem with the government today? All they have to do is make up some justification, and they steal, kidnap, and hold innocent humans for ransom.

What's that, the government doesn't do that? Exactly what is it called then when a prosecutor lies to a grand jury, gets an incitement, issues an arrest warrant, then the police raid his home, arrest him, seize his bank accounts, and leave him in jail, unable to post bail, all because the mayor is following their own political agenda.

Look at the  idiot in Ferguson who robbed a store, then lunged at a cop.

They made up charges and destroyed that cops reputation while pandering to racist blacks, and completely ignored the truth.

Once upon a time there was something called Honor.

Maybe you read about it in history books, it was when people did things that were right, just because it was the right thing to do.

The only way Cruz could have pulled off that takeover is if he had knowledge BEFORE the day of caucus that the rules were going to be changed in his favor.

Which means he either bribed the right people, or, the ones that make the rules told him what they were going to do, he agreed to go along, they then conspired,(illegal), recruited, (unethical), and then executed their little pony show, completely ignoring the will of The People.

Just because what happened may suit your needs, it is only a matter of time before the ones that pulled this off decide to do something that wont benefit you, but just the same as last week, they wont care.

How could you possibly expect remedy, or protection, at that time, if you are willingly allowing them to steal now?

If America has finally descended to a point where laws don't matter, where ethics are allowed to be ignored, where the means justify the ends, then you can be sure we are doomed.

America was founded on principle.

It was the personal honor of individuals that inspired them to make the ultimate sacrifice, and the presumed ethics of our leaders that qualifies them to be given their authority.

If none of that matters, then there is nothing left.

I'm tired.

Even worse, for the first time, I'm scared.

With the oblivious lack of character being demonstrated by so many that call themselves Americans, it is becoming apparent that soon there will be no one left willing to defend what was once the greatest nation on earth.

I have my faith, and I have done my best to discharge what I perceived to be my obligation.

That doesn't help much when I am forced to accept that just as Abraham was forced to concede there weren't enough righteous men in Sodom, America has sealed her fate.

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Ethics? Really?  An ethical man can certainly file for bankruptcy....stuff happens.  4 times?....not so much.  An ethical man does not cheat on his wife. An ethical man does not claim to be Pro-Life and then stumble over what being Pro-Life actually means.   An ethical man does not make fun of the disabled, breast feeding mothers, strong women, immigrants, religions, POWs, etc.  Perhaps examining the term "principle" is in order.  One could say, "I have great respect for him, for he stands on his principles"......Well, if his principles are of the nefarious type, should he be hoisted upon our shoulders and celebrated?  I don't even like Ted Cruz and yet Trump makes him look like an alter boy.  By far the craziest election cycle I've ever witnessed.  It has certainly brought out the worst in people, me included.  :(

GO RV, then BV  

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Ditto that, SHABS... ditto that.... :facepalm3:

That's why we sometimes say it looks like the TRUMPinator may well be running as a lark just so his ego can

say he held the job.... <_<

and was indeed The USofA's very last President before we all succumbed to the evil OWO / NWO :facepalm:

 

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

Ethics? Really?  An ethical man can certainly file for bankruptcy....stuff happens.  4 times?....not so much.  An ethical man does not cheat on his wife. An ethical man does not claim to be Pro-Life and then stumble over what being Pro-Life actually means.   An ethical man does not make fun of the disabled, breast feeding mothers, strong women, immigrants, religions, POWs, etc.  Perhaps examining the term "principle" is in order.  One could say, "I have great respect for him, for he stands on his principles"......Well, if his principles are of the nefarious type, should he be hoisted upon our shoulders and celebrated?  I don't even like Ted Cruz and yet Trump makes him look like an alter boy.  By far the craziest election cycle I've ever witnessed.  It has certainly brought out the worst in people, me included.  :(

GO RV, then BV  

It is your right to say whatever you want to, even if it is a half truth or outright lie. After all, that's what politicians have been doing since before recorded time. The bankruptcy statement is at best a weak deception, but unless a person has an ounce of business acumen, or has ever actually started a real live company, they would be left to just parrot whatever BS fits their agenda. Trump never went "bankrupt", he simply used well established entity laws to close down four companies. 

If you are going to use that against Trump, then you need to extend your hate to 99% of every seasoned business owner in America. But it is your right to continue to spread your deceptions, even after several people have corrected this mistake, you certainly have the right to refuse to accept the truth.

It's your right to hate every business owner as well. After all, what's the difference if it's a married couple working 18 hours a day to operate a tiny cafe, some blue collar guy killing himself to feed his family, or Goldman Sachs, all business are the same, right? All they want to do is ripoff everyone, even if the small business owner has invested their life savings to build an ethical company that offers a much needed service at very reasonable prices to their community, they should have just known it's far more respectable to be a government bureaucrat sucking the life out of the taxpayers, never producing anything at all except perpetrating divisive racism, or finding one of those "horrible" Christian business to destroy financially through selective enforcement.

Just the same as you are obviously demanding to use the standard liberal double standards, it is your right to insist anyone you don't like be held to unrealistic standards, while at the same time ignoring the blatant faults of those you do.

No one has ever changed their outlook in life, and certainly no self-respecting idealistic 14 year old could ever hope to be counted as a true hero if they ever bothered to accept the reality of life by the time they turn 40. All that "Jesus Freak" stuff is nonsense, a leopard can never change it's stripes, and no one has ever turned their life around after being "saved" by Christ.

However, I refuse to get sucked into a discussion with anyone that refuses to be completely honest, or is willing to perpetrate falsehoods just to score some sort of "victory" with a complete stranger online.

I don't have the time, and more importantly, the desire, to waste my energy with anyone that is determined to regurgitate unfounded rhetoric for individual agenda.

I don't much care for his personality, but this entire post had absolutely nothing to do with that.

This post DID have everything to do about the hypocrisy of the establishment, exposing rampant corruption, and bringing to light the detailed mechanics of how not just mine, but YOUR voice, and millions of others, are being drowned out and dismissed by disgusting parlor tricks.

 America is like the Titanic just after crashing into the iceberg,  alarms are going off, people are screaming, running around panicked, children getting ripped out of the arms of their mothers, grown men pushing women and children aside in their haste to find a seat on a life boat, and there you are, blocking the door of the kitchen, refusing to let the staff out so they can save their lives, screaming "It's a drill, it's not real, and it doesn't matter anyway, go back to your stations. I want every pot, every pan, scrubbed and stowed before you leave". And all you can think of is how efficient you are, as the ship sinks into the deep, killing the entire staff, and taking all those half cleaned pots and pans into oblivion forever.

Go on Shabby, hijack another thread, that's you own personal "special talent".

Who cares Americans are being ripped off, what does it matter that terrorists are invading our country at this moment through our southern border, and hey, we all gotta die sometime, so if North Korea launched several dozen 500 mega ton nukes on their now fully operational ICBM's, or if we live our lives to old age in peace and harmony, it's potato, potata.

The NWO, UN, and Rothschild's be damned,  and the constitution is just a stupid piece of paper, none of that matters, Shabbs has a thread to destroy for his own personal amusement, and that's all that matters.

Like I said, once upon a time there was a thing called Honor, it was considered something called a "virtue", and Americans actually respected the rights of others, even the ones they didn't like.

It's your turn now, go one, justify your deceptions with contrived "moral outrage", those same kind of "morals" so obvious in every left wingnut politician and socialist. Demand to deflect from the truth and intent of this post, after all, that's what America is all about now, justification of personal agenda, truth be damned.

Just don't expect me to respond, I have better things to do, like working with others that still believe in America. 

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15 minutes ago, divemaster5734 said:

It is your right to say whatever you want to, even if it is a half truth or outright lie. After all, that's what politicians have been doing since before recorded time. The bankruptcy statement is at best a weak deception, but unless a person has an ounce of business acumen, or has ever actually started a real live company, they would be left to just parrot whatever BS fits their agenda. Trump never went "bankrupt", he simply used well established entity laws to close down four companies. 

If you are going to use that against Trump, then you need to extend your hate to 99% of every seasoned business owner in America. But it is your right to continue to spread your deceptions, even after several people have corrected this mistake, you certainly have the right to refuse to accept the truth.

It's your right to hate every business owner as well. After all, what's the difference if it's a married couple working 18 hours a day to operate a tiny cafe, some blue collar guy killing himself to feed his family, or Goldman Sachs, all business are the same, right? All they want to do is ripoff everyone, even if the small business owner has invested their life savings to build an ethical company that offers a much needed service at very reasonable prices to their community, they should have just known it's far more respectable to be a government bureaucrat sucking the life out of the taxpayers, never producing anything at all except perpetrating divisive racism, or finding one of those "horrible" Christian business to destroy financially through selective enforcement.

Just the same as you are obviously demanding to use the standard liberal double standards, it is your right to insist anyone you don't like be held to unrealistic standards, while at the same time ignoring the blatant faults of those you do.

No one has ever changed their outlook in life, and certainly no self-respecting idealistic 14 year old could ever hope to be counted as a true hero if they ever bothered to accept the reality of life by the time they turn 40. All that "Jesus Freak" stuff is nonsense, a leopard can never change it's stripes, and no one has ever turned their life around after being "saved" by Christ.

However, I refuse to get sucked into a discussion with anyone that refuses to be completely honest, or is willing to perpetrate falsehoods just to score some sort of "victory" with a complete stranger online.

I don't have the time, and more importantly, the desire, to waste my energy with anyone that is determined to regurgitate unfounded rhetoric for individual agenda.

I don't much care for his personality, but this entire post had absolutely nothing to do with that.

This post DID have everything to do about the hypocrisy of the establishment, exposing rampant corruption, and bringing to light the detailed mechanics of how not just mine, but YOUR voice, and millions of others, are being drowned out and dismissed by disgusting parlor tricks.

 America is like the Titanic just after crashing into the iceberg,  alarms are going off, people are screaming, running around panicked, children getting ripped out of the arms of their mothers, grown men pushing women and children aside in their haste to find a seat on a life boat, and there you are, blocking the door of the kitchen, refusing to let the staff out so they can save their lives, screaming "It's a drill, it's not real, and it doesn't matter anyway, go back to your stations. I want every pot, every pan, scrubbed and stowed before you leave". And all you can think of is how efficient you are, as the ship sinks into the deep, killing the entire staff, and taking all those half cleaned pots and pans into oblivion forever.

Go on Shabby, hijack another thread, that's you own personal "special talent".

Who cares Americans are being ripped off, what does it matter that terrorists are invading our country at this moment through our southern border, and hey, we all gotta die sometime, so if North Korea launched several dozen 500 mega ton nukes on their now fully operational ICBM's, or if we live our lives to old age in peace and harmony, it's potato, potata.

The NWO, UN, and Rothschild's be damned,  and the constitution is just a stupid piece of paper, none of that matters, Shabbs has a thread to destroy for his own personal amusement, and that's all that matters.

Like I said, once upon a time there was a thing called Honor, it was considered something called a "virtue", and Americans actually respected the rights of others, even the ones they didn't like.

It's your turn now, go one, justify your deceptions with contrived "moral outrage", those same kind of "morals" so obvious in every left wingnut politician and socialist. Demand to deflect from the truth and intent of this post, after all, that's what America is all about now, justification of personal agenda, truth be damned.

Just don't expect me to respond, I have better things to do, like working with others that still believe in America. 

"Like I said, once upon a time there was a thing called Honor, it was considered something called a "virtue", and Americans actually respected the rights of others, even the ones they didn't like."

Sounds good.  I'll just keep doing that.  ;) 

GO RV, then BV

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