TPP URGENT-TPP Secret Details Leaked!

[divemaster5734]

Just got this.

No time to post commentary.

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This should scare the heck out of you...DM

 

 

The Scariest Trade Deal Nobody's Talking About Just Suffered a Big Leak

By David Dayen @ddayen

The Obama administration’s desire for “fast track” trade authority is not limited to passing the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). In fact, that may be the least important of three deals currently under negotiation by the U.S. Trade Representative. The Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) would bind the two biggest economies in the world, the United States and the European Union. And the largest agreement is also the least heralded: the 51-nation Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA).

On Wednesday, WikiLeaks brought this agreement into the spotlight by releasing 17 key TiSA-related documents, including 11 full chapters under negotiation. Though the outline for this agreement has been in place for nearly a year, these documents were supposed to remain classified for five years after being signed, an example of the secrecy surrounding the agreement, which outstrips even the TPP.

Would You Feel Differently About Julian Assange If You Knew What He Really Thought?

TiSA has been negotiated since 2013, between the United States, the European Union, and 22 other nations, including Canada, Mexico, Australia, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, Turkey, and others scattered across South America and Asia. Overall, 12 of the G20 nations are represented, and negotiations have carefully incorporated practically every advanced economy except for the “BRICS” coalition of emerging markets (which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa).

The deal would liberalize global trade of services, an expansive definition that encompasses air and maritime transport, package delivery, e-commerce, telecommunications, accountancy, engineering, consulting, health care, private education, financial services and more, covering close to 80 percent of the U.S. economy. Though member parties insist that the agreement would simply stop discrimination against foreign service providers, the text shows that TiSA would restrict how governments can manage their public laws through an effective regulatory cap. It could also dismantle and privatize state-owned enterprises, and turn those services over to the private sector. You begin to sound like the guy hanging out in front of the local food co-op passing around leaflets about One World Government when you talk about TiSA, but it really would clear the way for further corporate domination over sovereign countries and their citizens.

Reading the texts (here’s an example, the annex on air transport services) makes you realize the challenge for members of Congress or interested parties to comprehend a trade agreement while in negotiation. The “bracketed” text includes each country’s offer, merged into one document, with notations on whether the country proposed, is considering, or opposes each specific provision. You need to either be a trade lawyer or a very alert reader to know what’s going on. But between the text and a series of analyses released by WikiLeaks, you get a sense for what the countries negotiating TiSA want.

First, they want to limit regulation on service sectors, whether at the national, provincial or local level. The agreement has “standstill” clauses to freeze regulations in place and prevent future rulemaking for professional licensing and qualifications or technical standards. And a companion “ratchet” clause would make any broken trade barrier irreversible.

It may make sense to some to open service sectors up to competition. But under the agreement, governments may not be able to regulate staff to patient ratios in hospitals, or ban fracking, or tighten safety controls on airlines, or refuse accreditation to schools and universities. Foreign corporations must receive the same "national treatment" as domestic ones, and could argue that such regulations violate their ability to provide the service. Allowable regulations could not be “more burdensome than necessary to ensure the quality of the service,” according to TiSA’s domestic regulation annex. No restrictions could be placed on foreign investment—corporations could control entire sectors. 

This would force open dozens of services, including ones where state-owned enterprises, like the national telephone company in Uruguay or the national postal service of Italy, now operate. Previously, public services would be either broken up or forced into competition with foreign service providers. While the United States and European Union assured in a joint statement that such privatization need not be permanent, they also “noted the important complementary role of the private sector in these areas” to “improve the availability and diversity of services,” which doesn’t exactly connote a hands-off policy on the public commons. 

Corporations would get to comment on any new regulatory attempts, and enforce this regulatory straitjacket through a dispute mechanism similar to the investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) process in other trade agreements, where they could win money equal to “expected future profits” lost through violations of the regulatory cap.

For an example of how this would work, let’s look at financial services. It too has a “standstill” clause, which given the unpredictability of future crises could leave governments helpless to stop a new and dangerous financial innovation. In fact, Switzerland has proposed that all TiSA countries must allow “any new financial service” to enter their market. So-called “prudential regulations” to protect investors or depositors are theoretically allowed, but they must not act contrary to TiSA rules, rendering them somewhat irrelevant.

Most controversially, all financial services suppliers could transfer individual client data out of a TiSA country for processing, regardless of national privacy laws. This free flow of data across borders is true for the e-commerce annex as well; it breaks with thousands of years of precedent on locally kept business records, and has privacy advocates alarmed.

There’s no question that these provisions reinforce Senator Elizabeth Warren’s contention that a trade deal could undermine financial regulations like the Dodd-Frank Act. The Swiss proposal on allowances for financial services could invalidate derivatives rules, for example. And harmonizing regulations between the U.S. and EU would involve some alteration, as the EU rules are less stringent.

Member countries claim they want to simply open up trade in services between the 51 nations in the agreement. But there’s already an international deal governing these sectors through the World Trade Organization (WTO), called the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS). The only reason to re-write the rules is to replace GATS, which the European Union readily admits (“if enough WTO members join in, TiSA could be turned into a broader WTO agreement”).

That’s perhaps TiSA’s real goal—to pry open markets, deregulate and privatize services worldwide, even among emerging nations with no input into the agreement. U.S. corporations may benefit from such a structure, as the Chamber of Commerce suggests, but the impact on workers and citizens in America and across the globe is far less clear. Social, cultural, and even public health goals would be sidelined in favor of a regime that puts corporate profits first. It effectively nullifies the role of democratic governments to operate in the best interest of their constituents.

Unsurprisingly, this has raised far more concern globally than in the United States. But a completed TiSA would go through the same fast-track process as TPP, getting a guaranteed up-or-down vote in Congress without the possibility of amendment. Fast-track lasts six years, and negotiators for the next president may be even more willing to make the world safe for corporate hegemony. “This is as big a blow to our rights and freedom as the Trans-Pacific Partnership,” said Larry Cohen, president of the Communication Workers of America in a statement, “and in both cases our government’s secrecy is the key enabler.”

 

[Jim1cor13]

Thank you Dive. 

 

I am surprised at the lack of acknowledgement as to who gave the big push

behind this trade bill. The repubs appear to love this bill for the most part, and

of course, considering who it favors, not a surprise in the big picture. Remember,

politicians must cater to their masters, we are watching a big step coming into

place, and yet does anyone still believe either party is valid? Stunning how blind

we can be.

 

Here is more:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-tpp-and-the-ttip-how-congressional-republicans-lie-to-approve-obamas-trade-deals/5450662

 

A quote from the article:

 

the same billionaires who fund congressional and presidential campaigns are the people who will be taking from the general public vastly more money via TPP and TTIP than the paltry billions they’ve invested to fool voters into voting into office the Senators and Representatives who are now rubber-stamping into law Obama’s ‘trade’ deals.

 

Now, again, always ask who benefits...then ask yourself if 2016 is going to make an ounce

of difference whatever the 'name' is taking the office of president. Every single one of them

are paid for and that is American politics, and how low it has become. Sell out for the right

price, lie to your constituents, say all the right things they want to hear, and stab them in the

back when they turn to support you.

 

They are all the same, they do not represent anyone but themselves, and this should be

quite obvious by now. The "box" we are all in is getting smaller, and you can thank your loving

politician who was voted in to office for 'change', and then went right along with the pack once

it was obvious who benefited. We have been sold out, many years ago, while voters were

smiling about it.

Edited June 9, 2015 by Jim1cor13

[Jim1cor13]

Another interesting link:

 

http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/heres-how-your-senators-voted-in-the-key-senate-vote-to-end-american-democracy/

 

Take close notice to who the YEAS came from...and who the NAYS came from...quite revealing no?

 

[TrinityeXchange]

Thank you Dive. 

 

I am surprised at the lack of acknowledgement as to who gave the big push

behind this trade bill. The repubs appear to love this bill for the most part, and

of course, considering who it favors, not a surprise in the big picture. Remember,

politicians must cater to their masters, we are watching a big step coming into

place, and yet does anyone still believe either party is valid? Stunning how blind

we can be.

 

Here is more:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-tpp-and-the-ttip-how-congressional-republicans-lie-to-approve-obamas-trade-deals/5450662

 

A quote from the article:

 

Now, again, always ask who benefits...then ask yourself if 2016 is going to make an ounce

of difference whatever the 'name' is taking the office of president. Every single one of them

are paid for and that is American politics, and how low it has become. Sell out for the right

price, lie to your constituents, say all the right things they want to hear, and stab them in the

back when they turn to support you.

 

They are all the same, they do not represent anyone but themselves, and this should be

quite obvious by now. The "box" we are all in is getting smaller, and you can thank your loving

politician who was voted in to office for 'change', and then went right along with the pack once

it was obvious who benefited. We have been sold out, many years ago, while voters were

smiling about it.

i left that two party system a long time ago.  sadly though my man ron paul has retired.  it becomes so dejecting at times when i have to read through comments from members yet to realize the two party system exists only as a fictitious option deceiving the people that their vote really matters.  and they spend hours debating democrat vs republican just as the puppet masters desire.  bush, obama, clinton......it never really mattered.

[RVWITHME]

Wikileaks Reveals Full Text Of Trans-Pacific Partnership

http://www.readthetpp.com/

[flatdawg]

Another interesting link:

http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/heres-how-your-senators-voted-in-the-key-senate-vote-to-end-american-democracy/

Take close notice to who the YEAS came from...and who the NAYS came from...quite revealing no?

Are you telling me that Cruz, "the best thing that ever happened to American politics", is a facist?

Edit: All of the GOP for that matter?

Edited June 10, 2015 by flatdawg

[flatdawg]

I'm so effin' tired of these bastards giving away our sovereignty... May I suggest a tall branch and a shout rope for those traitors that support this bill?

[RVWITHME]

I'm so effin' tired of these bastards giving away our sovereignty... May I suggest a tall branch and a shout rope for those traitors that support this bill?

 

If it's any consolation, they aronly giving away U.S (Corp DC) sovereignty, not American (common law) sovereignty.

 

Not that most people can distinguish the difference anymore.

 

We still have time.

[jg1]

when I saw Obama was for the trade agreement that threw up a big red flag. I don't want more of what Nafta gave us.

[divemaster5734]

Another interesting link:

 

http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/heres-how-your-senators-voted-in-the-key-senate-vote-to-end-american-democracy/

 

Take close notice to who the YEAS came from...and who the NAYS came from...quite revealing no?

 

 

 

That was the gridlock vote tally, most of those "holdouts" announced they were the holdouts, and they magically received thousands of dollars overnight,, and miraculously decided to support fast track the next day.

That said, you are correct, the RINOS are open supporters of their generous sponsors, while the dems need to play games to make their followers think they are actually standing for something other than their own best interest.

 

i left that two party system a long time ago.  sadly though my man ron paul has retired.  it becomes so dejecting at times when i have to read through comments from members yet to realize the two party system exists only as a fictitious option deceiving the people that their vote really matters.  and they spend hours debating democrat vs republican just as the puppet masters desire.  bush, obama, clinton......it never really mattered.

 

Amen. 

I was apathetic concerning all thins politic until Ron Paul decided to run.

I was helping out on his phone bank, and got talked into running for PCO.

Unfortunately I won my precinct, and spent a lot of time "doorknobing".

We had the delegates to put him on the Washington ballot, then the GOP stepped in and started withholding funds, making threats, giving bribes, and that was what destroyed the campaign.

The vote at the national convention was totally rigged, and they refused to allow pre-designated Paul delegates entry.

There were even reports of uncommitted delegates being tossed after choosing Paul support.

 

I'm so effin' tired of these bastards giving away our sovereignty... May I suggest a tall branch and a shout rope for those traitors that support this bill?

 

The only reason they are selling their support is because they can.

Just look at the poor response to this topics on this forum.

While it is definitely an off topic, this issue will in fact affect every single person here.

Whether they live in America or not.

The only difference is if enough people stand up for themselves now and stop the madness, or if they are forced to deal with it when they lose their internet, food prices quadruple, the middle class disappears as the remaining pensions, 401's, and savings accounts are looted to pay off bank debts, and foreign military are roaming the streets enforcing UN laws because it was decided the US Constitution goes against international law.

Sooner or later, every human on earth will be impacted by this "agreement"

[SnowGlobe7]

Hear that sucking sound???

[RVWITHME]

Hear that sucking sound???

 

To quote a billionaire on that one.

 

"I'm all ears" ...

 

lol/

[Jim1cor13]

Just look at the poor response to this topics on this forum.

 

There is a reason for that, it is called denial. God forbid truth

to shatter the two party myth i.e., illusion.

[divemaster5734]

Word is they are going to try again on Tuesday.

 

[nstoolman1]

 

 

 foreign military are roaming the streets enforcing UN laws because it was decided the US Constitution goes against international law.

 

 

 

Bloody day in America when that happens.

[divemaster5734]

Bloody day in America when that happens.

 

True, but today there would only be a fraction of those resisting than there would have been had that happened 10 years ago.

Which would have only been a fraction of those that would have stood up 10 years before that.

As time goes on, more and more American kids are liberally indoctrinated, divided, and brainwashed into a global socialistic ideology.

40 years ago Bruce Jenner's identity issues would not have been given more air time than this trade package.

50 years ago the trade package announcement would have sparked massive demonstrations.

100 years ago the trade package would have resulted in the immediate recall votes of most of the politicians that are supporting it.

150 years ago patriots would have descended on DC and physically removed those traitors from office.

 

If the PC thought police keep gaining power, even posts like this will be against the law.

 

My point, it's only a matter of time before those of us that grew up in a whole different era are gone, our kids live a completely new reality than what we knew, and if we can't even leave them a sovereign America, they won't ever have a chance.

[DinarCash]

Thanks Divemaster, the American people should be raising a ruckus on this TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) 

 

This reveals danger to the internet freedom, freedom of speech, consumers protections.  These are just a few items on this trade deal, so much more that is being hidden.   

 

Solely developed by government and corporate interest, bad for anyone that falls under this jurisdiction, which is the American people.   Would trample over individual rights. 

 

This is a serious agreement that is deceiving the American people. 

 

Pass this around, research and educate yourself.