keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I see people are still getting excited when seeing the deletion of the zeros articles.... Reality check....that's not what you want them to do!!! That is a lop....please stop listening to the gurus.... 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thanks keepm for starting a new thread!! That other one was tired!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarbeleiver Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 There is more than one way to delete zeros keep! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thanks keepm for starting a new thread!! That other one was tired!! Lol no kidding....I was getting no where with that one!! Sheesh.... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzur Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yeah I could never actually figure out why anyone would be excited about deleting zeros... or how anyone saw that as good/exciting /or indication of great progress.... There is probably some line of logic, I just don't remember reading any logical progression as why people think that is such a great thing??? And the question is genuine.... what is the line of thinking behind this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixirbaby Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Run Forest run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 There is more than one way to delete zeros keep! No there isent....please show me an example of a country cutting zeros off their currency and it wasn't a lop..... And don't tell me the US cause tthat's not what they did..... Yeah I could never actually figure out why anyone would be excited about deleting zeros... or how anyone saw that as good/exciting /or indication of great progress.... There is probably some line of logic, I just don't remember reading any logical progression as why people think that is such a great thing??? And the question is genuine.... what is the line of thinking behind this? My thoughts exactly....Thank you for sharing rayzur.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVPleaseToday Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 There was some guru line of logic that changed people suddenly from worrying about a lop to suddenly thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Removing three zeros is a lop. It has been done many times by many currencies over the years and it always happens the same way. It is always a neutral event. It is NOT what you want if you are looking for a big RV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 There was some guru line of logic that changed people suddenly from worrying about a lop to suddenly thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Removing three zeros is a lop. It has been done many times by many currencies over the years and it always happens the same way. It is always a neutral event. It is NOT what you want if you are looking for a big RV. No kidding.....If you hold dinar you don't want them going through with this. It's a non profit situation yet alot seem to be confused still as to what it is thanks to the gurus. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billio0 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thanks, sincerely! I used to be one of those who was confused. Billio0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Thanks, sincerely! I used to be one of those who was confused. Billio0 No worries....not trying to piss on anyone's parade btw....but the facts will stand true.....it will not turn out good for anyone holding dinar 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarbeleiver Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Humanitarian keepem lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVPleaseToday Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) dinarbeleiver, wouldn't it be better to keep personalities out of this thread? Kinda messed up the previous thread. How about adding something substantive? Edited May 3, 2014 by RVPleaseToday 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 No worries....not trying to piss on anyone's parade btw....but the facts will stand true.....it will not turn out good for anyone holding dinar Are you talking about this investment in general or the deletion of the 000?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captl1 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Hey how's this $3.33 dollars for one dinar All new dinars They put out pegged exchange rate between the old dinar and the new dinar what ever it is But all the new dinar is at $3.33 per dinar If there's no increase in the value of the old dinar You get 300 new dinar for one million old dinar If they decide they want to raise that pegged exchange rate by 2and 1/2 percent they do If not they don't Or what ever percent 3% What ever It Would be pegged between the old and new currency But the new currency will have its international exchange rate against the dollar at $3.33 And the dinar would be a separate issue during the exchange I for one do not believe that there is any one who does not know already what a lop is So if that's what they do its what they do If they do something else it's what they do I supposed what I said is all wrong and I don't know what I'm talking about The new dinar has its new rate exclusively and internationally The cbi exchanges in all old dinar How it gets there is up to who ever is holding it The currency dealers will be turning in what currency they have left so why not offer to buy back dinar off the holders before they go and take it all back It's how they make money Why would they say nah I'm going to just cash in the ones they had left over When they can make a fortune off the exchange just like they made selling it Only this time instead of making that fortune in 10 years The exchange period is only 1 year So they just tell the holders to take a number and get in line No sales pitches Ya got no other choice but get in line Of course they want to make another 300 million dollars off the holders on the way out Yep I think we all know the scenario It's been talked about for 10 years So why even talk about it again I think that's why they made a lopster bin So these topics could be contained and not used to interrupt daily conversations in the rest of the forum dinarbeleiver, wouldn't it be better to keep personalities out of this thread? Kinda messed up the previous thread. How about adding something substantive? I think the opening of this topic already started by calling people gurus When it starts out buy bringing personalities into it that's usually the way it goes Calling people gurus or lopsters what's the difference Why not just call them princess like keep does They guy has earned his own demise 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) There is more than one way to delete zeros keep!When the currency code remains the same they can have what ever kind of pegged exchange rate they choose The IQD will still be the IQD The Swiss IQD had a pegged exchange rate that was different than the pegged exchange rate of the central bank officially monetized IQD The market value and the official exchange rate of the Swiss IQD in "most of Iraq "was zero including at the central bank of Iraq But it ended up with a official exchange rate to the NID at the central bank of Iraq by decree at 150 times the value of the central banks official IQD So nothing is set in stone There were separate pegged official exchange rates to the NID from the IQD in the 2003 exchange . Edited May 3, 2014 by dontlop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I see people are still getting excited when seeing the deletion of the zeros articles.... Reality check....that's not what you want them to do!!! That is a lop....please stop listening to the gurus.... How do you know what people want ??? Did ya ever think that they know exactly what you know , After all it doesn't take much to read the paragraph that explains it People been following this for years and they may be tired of it and want this thing over no matter how it turns out Not everyone has bet the farm and lost their family and home over this They are not all obsessed about losing a couple hundred dollars It is what it is I want it over no matter what they do just end this already Like people say there's no reason for all this spin if they were going to lop But if they were hiding something then it would take govt cooperation and propagan..... Ask shabbs he will tell ya And if your interested I can show you those words coming straight out of his mouth on a utube video 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) There was some guru line of logic that changed people suddenly from worrying about a lop to suddenly thinking it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Removing three zeros is a lop. It has been done many times by many currencies over the years and it always happens the same way. It is always a neutral event. It is NOT what you want if you are looking for a big RV.Don't understand the bringing out of personalities and stereo typing them as gurus But Can you show us one time in history where the circumstances in Iraq were repeated by any of those country's that lopped And let me explain what was different in Iraq Then I'd like your response ....... ............ ...... Ok 1) who else that lopped was invaded by foriegn country's and the foriegn country ordered a new currency and exchange rates by decree of that invading country 2) who else was this action approved if by the world bank , United Nations , the International Monetary Fund , and the bank of international settlements 3) who else was set up on a program rate by the International Monetary Fund for monetering purposes Please explain how Iraq is just like all the other country's that lopped Especially the program rate Edited May 3, 2014 by dontlop 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 It makes ya wonder how they set the rates It went from 2400 to 1100 in two months in 2003 then back up to over 2000 for the exchange period I guess adding a bunch of Swiss dinar that were backed by nothing into the exchange in 2003 could devalue the crap out of the IQD But they did go from 2400 In April2003 to June 2003 to 1100 It makes ya wonder The entire govts of Iraq was removed A new central bank law was set by decree by the invading forces How can this be compared to every other country who's govt remaining in place with the same central bank I guess the " Iraq is different " is reserved to back up what arguments someone chooses I've heard Iraq is different from both sides of the arguement Now let's see the " Substance " and not the usual ridicule 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Are you talking about this investment in general or the deletion of the 000?? Deleting the zeros. ..... Hey how's this $3.33 dollars for one dinar All new dinars They put out pegged exchange rate between the old dinar and the new dinar what ever it is But all the new dinar is at $3.33 per dinar If there's no increase in the value of the old dinar You get 300 new dinar for one million old dinar If they decide they want to raise that pegged exchange rate by 2and 1/2 percent they do If not they don't Or what ever percent 3% What ever It Would be pegged between the old and new currency But the new currency will have its international exchange rate against the dollar at $3.33 And the dinar would be a separate issue during the exchange I for one do not believe that there is any one who does not know already what a lop is So if that's what they do its what they do If they do something else it's what they do I supposed what I said is all wrong and I don't know what I'm talking about The new dinar has its new rate exclusively and internationally The cbi exchanges in all old dinar How it gets there is up to who ever is holding it The currency dealers will be turning in what currency they have left so why not offer to buy back dinar off the holders before they go and take it all back It's how they make money Why would they say nah I'm going to just cash in the ones they had left over When they can make a fortune off the exchange just like they made selling it Only this time instead of making that fortune in 10 years The exchange period is only 1 year So they just tell the holders to take a number and get in line No sales pitches Ya got no other choice but get in line Of course they want to make another 300 million dollars off the holders on the way out Yep I think we all know the scenario It's been talked about for 10 years So why even talk about it again I think that's why they made a lopster bin So these topics could be contained and not used to interrupt daily conversations in the rest of the forum I think the opening of this topic already started by calling people gurus When it starts out buy bringing personalities into it that's usually the way it goes Calling people gurus or lopsters what's the difference Why not just call them princess like keep does They guy has earned his own demise There are plenty who still don't understand a lop.....have you seen the people getting excited about deleting the zeros? Read through those threads....they apparently have no idea.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Ok Hopfully they will stop in and you can start all over with all that splainin I just hope you don't start ridiculing them when they present the same arguements you heard in the past 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 How do you know what people want ??? Did ya ever think that they know exactly what you know , After all it doesn't take much to read the paragraph that explains it People been following this for years and they may be tired of it and want this thing over no matter how it turns out Not everyone has bet the farm and lost their family and home over this They are not all obsessed about losing a couple hundred dollars It is what it is I want it over no matter what they do just end this already Like people say there's no reason for all this spin if they were going to lop But if they were hiding something then it would take govt cooperation and propagan..... Ask shabbs he will tell ya And if your interested I can show you those words coming straight out of his mouth on a utube video I'm not gonna argue for 80 pages with your ignorance. ....If you don't know what I'm talking about, then don't speak... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Oh so now I'm ignorant I was wondering how long before the insults started flying Page two just like your last thread I'm not gonna argue for 80 pages with your ignorance. ....If you don't know what I'm talking about, then don't speak... If you got nothing nice to say maybe you shouldn't be opening topics for discussion I suppose its time for your reinforcements to come and gang up on me as usual Do ya got any new screen names ready like your last topic? Here we go again. Yep ya pegged it right off the bat Home run captl1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVPleaseToday Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) dontlop says: "2) who else was this action approved if by the world bank , United Nations , the International Monetary Fund , and the bank of international settlements 3) who else was set up on a program rate by the International Monetary Fund for monitoring purposes" Could you provide a link for these two items? I've never seen this except as part of a guru explanation. The program rate is not a law Iraq has to follow, although many gurus suggest that it is. The program rate is simply a number the IMF chose as an internal accounting measure. Iraq has moved their exchange rate from the "program" rate a number of times. Iraq has complete control of its own exchange rate, not the IMF. The IMF has pointed this out that it has no control over Iraq's exchange rate, most recently when questions were asked during the TNT Tony twitter nonsense. Edited May 3, 2014 by RVPleaseToday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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