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Man who attempted to sign up claims he was threatened with drivers license being revoked, federal tax lien on home

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
October 2, 2013

A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.

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Image: Obama signs the Affordable Care Act.

If true, the implementation of Obamacare is going to be a whole lot more draconian than Americans have been led to believe.

Will Sheehan claims that when he tried to sign up for Obamacare and then register to opt out, he received an ominous warning. Sheehan’s full Facebook post reads;

Sheehan went on to point out that the site makes you input all your personal information before giving you an indication of the costs, meaning a database of the “uninsured” is being built. He added that he could not afford to pay the premium so would have to break the law and pay the fine, leaving him with no health care coverage.

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”

The federal government has consistently denied that any fines pertaining to Obamacare non-compliance could be seized from bank accounts, despite reports last year that the IRS had hired 16,500 new agents to harass citizens who attempt to evade the new law.

“There’s no criminal sanctions for not paying this, and there’s no ability to levy a bank account or do seizures,” then-IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman said in April 2010.

In addition, Americans who refuse to pay for mandatory health insurance “shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution,” according to the law itself.

Section 1501(g)(2) of the Affordable Care Act also states that the IRS cannot “file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section.”

Either Sheehan’s claim that he received this notice is a lie, or the feds have been dishonest with the American people all along, and the revolt against Obamacare is about to take “don’t tread on me” to a whole new level.

Read a copy of the full exchange on Facebook below.

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King Obama...Drones in the sky o’re the land of the free,
“The Messiah” Obama spying on you and me.
Tapping our phones and e-mail too,
He is afraid of what we can do.

He wants our guns and ammo you see,
Cause his tyranny, is not to be.
We are free people in this land,
But not under the Kings heavy hand.

He is working hard almost everyday,
To try and take our rights away.
GOD given rights he can try and take,
Afraid that will be one tremendous mistake!

Millions have served this great land,
Many have died from an enemies hand.
I cherish this land and freedom too,
I was proud to serve America and of course you.

Black verses white and tween men and women too,
He has started wars to divide me and you.
Take from the makers everything he can,
To GIVE to the takers in this great land.

Between Fast & Furious and Ben-ghazi,
The King is a liar as we all can see.
Lie to America every chance he gets,
There is no lie that he regrets.

We must hold firm to survive this regime,
And send’em packin’ in twenty fourteen.
We will survive there is no doubt,
This is the land of the free that I shout!!

John D USN RVN 71, 72, 73, evac 75
5/5/2013

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Its a tax so any penalties will be taken out of any tax refund you have coming. or be added to any taxes you may owe.

Yes it would be tax evasion not to pay the penalty charge.

Welcome to the new Socialist States of America  

 

Obamacare Reality Shock Sets In – Facebook Posts Reveals The True Horrors Of Obamacare
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Though Obamacare has only just begun, the American people are already displaying their displeasure such as this Facebook post about the reality of Obamacare setting in and what it means to your family and checkbook. A post on GLP shares what we have to look forward to with Obamacare and even more so, what happens when we choose not to opt in. You can see a screenshot of the Facebook post below as well as a video below from Christopher Greene on the emerging horrors of Obamacare. I just saw a repost from a Facebook page – An alleged comment on the Affordable Care Act FB page states that a person had signed up online, under the $45-55,000 income range, pre-existing condition of type I diabetes. They chose the “Silver” plan…

 

Their premium came back as $597 per month, with an almost $14,000 annual deductible! And when the person clicked the “opt out” option, they shortly received an e-mail stating that their fine would be $4,037, and could be attached to their annual tax return and if you don’t have the $4,037 on time, then the repercussions for non-payment begin with your drivers license being suspended until the fine is paid, and if it goes 24 months without payment, a tax lien is placed on you property. It gives you the option to provide your bank info so your penalties can be withdrawn weekly, or biweekly, etc. 

That comes out to about $350/month for not opting in, or $597 plus pretty much all your medical expenses for the year out of pocket (deductible) – unless you have some type of major surgery or catstrophic illness, which you then get to cough up $14,000 plus your monthly payments.

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Think about the repercussion of mass order of Invalid Driver licences...just a few  here off the top of my head...No Driver licences effects No ride to work, No Job...ok now it time to.. Cancel Car Insurance, Turn tag into the DMV, How many  folks have this affected just by this bone head law.. How Long do you think this will take to wake up a few folks...

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ACA is meant to fail, so they can go to one payor system.

This is not going to be a "one payer system"  

It will be a "one collector system"

The Collector will be the federal government

 

Their spending addiction has just got started.

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Obamacare Fines to be Seized From Bank Accounts?

Man who attempted to sign up claims he was threatened with drivers license being revoked, federal tax lien on home

Paul Joseph Watson

Infowars.com

October 2, 2013

A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.

021013care.jpg

Image: Obama signs the Affordable Care Act.

If true, the implementation of Obamacare is going to be a whole lot more draconian than Americans have been led to believe.

Will Sheehan claims that when he tried to sign up for Obamacare and then register to opt out, he received an ominous warning. Sheehan’s full Facebook post reads;

Sheehan went on to point out that the site makes you input all your personal information before giving you an indication of the costs, meaning a database of the “uninsured” is being built. He added that he could not afford to pay the premium so would have to break the law and pay the fine, leaving him with no health care coverage.

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the “REPERCUSSIONS PORTION” for “non-payment” of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with “Non-Payment” and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy “Automatically withdraw” your “penalties” weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is “Free” or even “Affordable.”

The federal government has consistently denied that any fines pertaining to Obamacare non-compliance could be seized from bank accounts, despite reports last year that the IRS had hired 16,500 new agents to harass citizens who attempt to evade the new law.

“There’s no criminal sanctions for not paying this, and there’s no ability to levy a bank account or do seizures,” then-IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman said in April 2010.

In addition, Americans who refuse to pay for mandatory health insurance “shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution,” according to the law itself.

Section 1501(g)(2) of the Affordable Care Act also states that the IRS cannot “file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section.”

Either Sheehan’s claim that he received this notice is a lie, or the feds have been dishonest with the American people all along, and the revolt against Obamacare is about to take “don’t tread on me” to a whole new level.

Read a copy of the full exchange on Facebook below.

021013fines.png

add one readers comment

King Obama...Drones in the sky o’re the land of the free,

“The Messiah” Obama spying on you and me.

Tapping our phones and e-mail too,

He is afraid of what we can do.

He wants our guns and ammo you see,

Cause his tyranny, is not to be.

We are free people in this land,

But not under the Kings heavy hand.

He is working hard almost everyday,

To try and take our rights away.

GOD given rights he can try and take,

Afraid that will be one tremendous mistake!

Millions have served this great land,

Many have died from an enemies hand.

I cherish this land and freedom too,

I was proud to serve America and of course you.

Black verses white and tween men and women too,

He has started wars to divide me and you.

Take from the makers everything he can,

To GIVE to the takers in this great land.

Between Fast & Furious and Ben-ghazi,

The King is a liar as we all can see.

Lie to America every chance he gets,

There is no lie that he regrets.

We must hold firm to survive this regime,

And send’em packin’ in twenty fourteen.

We will survive there is no doubt,

This is the land of the free that I shout!!Can I get an Amen

John D USN RVN 71, 72, 73, evac 75

5/5/2013

Until "O" has been put out, he will continue to attempt to drive our country into a controlled US. Pray

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This is not going to be a "one payer system"  

It will be a "one collector system"

The Collector will be the federal government

 

Their spending addiction has just got started.

Being a politician needs to an “Amateur Post” 

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There's been several sucessful attempts of this nature throughout history in which the man in charge was considered the Messiah, at the start. The last of which started out as a community organizer...some guy by the name of Adolf Hitler. If ya were to study the history of tyanny and the methodes they used...IMHO the individuals behind this Bill learned from their mistakes in the past and we are seeing the proper steps bein' taken to over throw the greastest nation that ever graced this land...yes, history will tell ''How this'll work for us''.....

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