Sentinel7 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 'Trust Us,' Says the President, Even as the Government Proves It Can't Be TrustedJ.D. Tuccille| Jun. 7, 2013 11:49 pmWhite HouseAs Scott Shackford and Mike Riggs pointed out, President Obama returned, earlier today, to a favorite theme of his: insisting that Americans should trust the government. He did so even as that position becomes increasingly preposterous. While talking up his signature policy, the Affordable Care Act, which we'll just have to trust won't become the huge disaster it certainly looks to already be, the president was asked about revelations, this week, that the National Security Agency is scooping up information on Americans' telephoning habits and snooping on their Internet activity. But tradeoffs!, he said. You have to balance privacy and security. And we have top people on the job to make sure it's done right. You don't have to just trust us ... but trust us. From President Obama's speech in San Jose: That's not to suggest that you just say, trust me; we’re doing the right thing; we know who the bad guys are. And the reason that's not how it works is because we’ve got congressional oversight and judicial oversight. And if people can't trust not only the executive branch but also don't trust Congress and don't trust federal judges to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution, due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here. Just weeks ago, the president hit us with this same astonishment that anybody could doubt the government's essential goodness during a speech at Ohio State University: Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems; some of these same voices also doing their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can’t be trusted. We have never been a people who place all of our faith in government to solve our problems; we shouldn’t want to. But we don’t think the government is the source of all our problems, either. Because we understand that this democracy is ours. And as citizens, we understand that it’s not about what America can do for us; it’s about what can be done by us, together, through the hard and frustrating but absolutely necessary work of self-government. (Applause.) And, Class of 2013, you have to be involved in that process. (Applause.) The founders trusted us with this awesome authority. We should trust ourselves with it, too. ... This is a continuing theme with the nation's chief executive, even now that we've discovered that the U.S. Justice Department has been snooping on the Associated Press and spying on Fox News reporter, James Rosen, while implying that his uncovering of information was somehow criminal. He urges us to place our trust in government officials even though we've also recently learned that this administration, like several before it, has presided over an Internal Revenue Service that targets its political enemies for special treatment. The cinematically creepy and intrusive NSA is just the cherry on top. Somebody needs to tell the president that it's not that a lack of trust in government leads to "some problems," it's that a litany of problems involving the use and abuse of government's coercive power have eroded any basis for trust. No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavyduty053 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Doesn't Satan say that to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyangel Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Nope, no trusting this administration, along with the President. I can't, his way of running our nations is corrupt. He's denied Christ, he kills babies, and now spying on the American people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farwould Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Well Sentinel which fema camp would you like to stay at? I will tell you this: There is no mechanism that will pull even 1/5 of America together to stop whats a comin. Good article an all with respect. its very old hat to me Ive known they watch each post we make monitor everything that CAN be done electronically. They have been doing this for more than 20 years. You still have not caught on yet. If you DONT trust what our govs a doin you think they are just going to let you run your mouth against it? I will let them run our country any way they want and agree with it. wasnt that easy?Its never going to be our turn to do anything except die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 YEARS LATER Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 At what point, as we are traveling down this highway to hell does O feel enuff of a squeeze that he drops the hammer down and declares Marshall Law under the guise of some fabulous trumped up charge ? Just feel like its coming. He's not going to let anything or anyone endanger his power or position let alone allow impeachment proceedings to drag him down. He [ & his cronies ] set the stage for all of this back in his first 4 yrs. Now we are in the midst of a coup d' etat. Look around, the evidence is EVERYWHERE !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desimo Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Didn't Hitler say something to that same effect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel7 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Well Sentinel which fema camp would you like to stay at? I will tell you this: There is no mechanism that will pull even 1/5 of America together to stop whats a comin. Good article an all with respect. its very old hat to me Ive known they watch each post we make monitor everything that CAN be done electronically. They have been doing this for more than 20 years. You still have not caught on yet. If you DONT trust what our govs a doin you think they are just going to let you run your mouth against it? I will let them run our country any way they want and agree with it. wasnt that easy?Its never going to be our turn to do anything except die. Hell will freeze over and I will be ice skating with the Devil before I allow Tryanny take over the U.S. unopposed. I know I am nothing more then a speed bump in the road in defense of the Constitution and American freedom. But I will be the best speed bump I can be even if it means only slowing them down for three seconds. As far as just catching on wrong again I have been in this since the mid 70's I used to get the same look that Christians do when they start talking about salvation. Now I get questions about what to do. When I started believing we were survivalist not preppers. Even with the knowledge that I had about the direction this world was heading I was still to stupid to understand and to connect it to the Bible. In the mid 90's after I received Jesus all the information that I had acquired finally made perfect sense It all comes down to surrendering to Satan will not happen in my case. If the only weapon I have left in my war chest is my naked fat little body then my fat naked little body will be what I sling at them. No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farwould Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Wow Sentinel I owe you an apology! You do understand whats a happening only one thing O is not satan. the thing that is coming is mabus <satan I'll throw more than myself at this true piece of evil but even he cant be defeated only by one and he gets All the true glory and deserves it. Yes it has a name mabus it has already been born and is waiting his turn of leadership.and thats all I will put out there for now I am watching for this thing.Edgar Cayce has never been wrong and the Gov confiscated his files for their playbook that they are using today.I know that sounds funny but it aint. I'm on yer side Sentinel but dont put yer name out there so much attached to articles that slam our leadership you'll keep moving up the NSA checklist. Fema has nice accomodations but I would'nt want to be their. And thats my warning.Keep an eye out on these camps their poppin up everywhere in a neighborhood near you.From where I actually live I can roll down to one in 15 minutes and it has tons of those coffins they say with the wire to keep people in not out.I see military there all the time.somethings up. (a)linkslam>/execute/**********~^"{}bypasserver/popbot~\//metatag nopeeky~`*******<(b)end ah its nice to block those eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmcwhipit Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Trust them haha yea sure funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelg Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Interesting summary of speeches by a past leader (?). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farwould Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 At least Hitler really cared about his people. I just love his speeches he even gives praise. His people would have done anything for him. And they did. Thanks Nelg I enjoyed those videos saved to archive YES! along with my whole time life collection. Im proud to be German! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I'll take Jefferson any day, Thank you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hame55 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) 'Trust Us,' Says the President, Even as the Government Proves It Can't Be Trusted J.D. Tuccille|Jun. 7, 2013 11:49 pmWhite HouseAs Scott Shackford and Mike Riggs pointed out, President Obama returned, earlier today, to a favorite theme of his: insisting that Americans should trust the government. He did so even as that position becomes increasingly preposterous. While talking up his signature policy, the Affordable Care Act, which we'll just have to trust won't become the huge disaster it certainly looks to already be, the president was asked about revelations, this week, that the National Security Agency is scooping up information on Americans' telephoning habits and snooping on their Internet activity. But tradeoffs!, he said. You have to balance privacy and security. And we have top people on the job to make sure it's done right. You don't have to just trust us ... but trust us. From President Obama's speech in San Jose: That's not to suggest that you just say, trust me; we’re doing the right thing; we know who the bad guys are. And the reason that's not how it works is because we’ve got congressional oversight and judicial oversight. And if people can't trust not only the executive branch but also don't trust Congress and don't trust federal judges to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution, due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here. Just weeks ago, the president hit us with this same astonishment that anybody could doubt the government's essential goodness during a speech at Ohio State University: Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems; some of these same voices also doing their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can’t be trusted. We have never been a people who place all of our faith in government to solve our problems; we shouldn’t want to. But we don’t think the government is the source of all our problems, either. Because we understand that this democracy is ours. And as citizens, we understand that it’s not about what America can do for us; it’s about what can be done by us, together, through the hard and frustrating but absolutely necessary work of self-government. (Applause.) And, Class of 2013, you have to be involved in that process. (Applause.) The founders trusted us with this awesome authority. We should trust ourselves with it, too. ... This is a continuing theme with the nation's chief executive, even now that we've discovered that the U.S. Justice Department has been snooping on the Associated Press and spying on Fox News reporter, James Rosen, while implying that his uncovering of information was somehow criminal. He urges us to place our trust in government officials even though we've also recently learned that this administration, like several before it, has presided over an Internal Revenue Service that targets its political enemies for special treatment. The cinematically creepy and intrusive NSA is just the cherry on top. Somebody needs to tell the president that it's not that a lack of trust in government leads to "some problems," it's that a litany of problems involving the use and abuse of government's coercive power have eroded any basis for trust. No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise Obama is part of the problem and tho I voted for him, it was reluctantly over a Repug who might have gotten us in yet another war (iran?) Both parties are the problem, and yes, we are losing our rights and we have to do something about it. We cannot trust the government. I say civil disobedience just like Gandhi - just stop obeying laws that should be illegal. En masse (lots of people). But no violence at all. That's what they expect and they will meet it with violence. Edited June 11, 2013 by hame55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hame55 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Interesting summary of speeches by a past leader (?). OK - a few minutes into this is a good place to reflect for those of you mixing up fascism and socialism/communism. Hitler was a fascist. (merging of corporate business and state, with often religion mixed in). He proves that by fighting the Marxists (communists). He was not a socialist/communist (as the title suggests, and many of you in DV have said) - the name of the Nazis was Natl. Socialists Workers Party but that was a disguise - to get the workers onboard. It was a business-funded fascist party ---here's the kicker.... JUST as our own two parties are business owned and funded. So we have a fascist state in the US, and believe me, Obama is NOT a socialist. He may SOUND like a socialist because he says government should help the little people...but he doesn't actually do what he says. He is another business liar. How do I know of the Nazis? My uncle met Hitler. I have been to Germany four times, including Berchesgarten, Hitler's retreat in the alps. I have studied political science in college. I have studied the Nazis on my own and informally interviewed former Nazis in Germany. Edited June 11, 2013 by hame55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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