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by: Albert Bender

January 25 2013

Idle No More is a Native protest movement that arose in Canada and is now engulfing that country and the U.S. Native communities from coast to coast in the U.S. have embraced this upheaval. Throughout our country, rallies of hundreds to thousands have performed traditional round dances flash mobs in support of INM, to the beat of drumming ,singing and chanting, in malls and other public venues. Some of these activities have taken place without incident and some have not. (Article continues below video).

(To see video check link at the end of article).

In certain parts of the country, most infamously Colorado and Minnesota, Native people have been barred from malls and even arrested for just "looking Native American." This is an unspeakable outrage. Police were quoted as telling mall security, "If they look Native American, tell them to leave." This is 1960s Mississippi-style racist police action directed against American Indian people for simply trying to assemble and exercise free speech in support of INM. Why isn't there a national uproar? Native people of the U.S. are realizing that the civil rights progress of the 1960s in many respects bypassed Indigenous citizens.

The INM movement, started by four Indigenous women in November last year and now sweeping the Western Hemisphere at warp speed, was in response to the Canadian government's Omnibus Bill C-45 that would further strip reservations of lands and also environmental protections. This infamous legislation was passed on December 14, after Assembly of First Nations (AFN) representatives were even barred from government meetings on the bill.

This led to a series of rallies and protests and a hunger strike by Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence demanding a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Steven Harper and the Governor General on Aboriginal rights. Chief Spence is camping out in a tepee on an ice-covered island in the Ottawa River across from Parliament Hill, Canada's seat of government.

In the meantime, the movement has sparked countless demonstrations and direct actions, including blockades of railways, roads and border crossings in Canada and rallies and flash mobs from coast to coast in the U.S. Suffice it to say that INM has morphed into the most massive Native American Indian movement in history. The movement is not new, but is the latest manifestation of centuries-old Native resistance to the exploitation, marginalization and continuous daily discrimination experienced by Indian citizens. Indeed, Native people have never forgotten that all of Canada and the U.S., two of the wealthiest nations in the world, is treaty land and that these two nations achieved their economic heights by using the land and resources of Indigenous nations that was for the most part illegally acquired.

On January 16 this year, INM held a national Day of Action that brought Canadian roads, railways and border crossings to a standstill with blockades. The blockades, though predominantly Indigenous, were often supported by non-Native participation. The movement, which started with Indian sovereignty and environmental protection, is now addressing a panoply of Native issues including poverty, suicides rates, joblessness, health and the protection of women. Media from around the world are covering INM.

But where, we may ask, is U.S. mainstream media coverage of this gigantic political movement? The "Buckskin Curtain" has struck again in an attempt to hide this immense social upheaval. But social media technology has circumvented the U.S. news machine. Indeed, INM support groups have arisen across the globe - throughout the Western Hemisphere from Alaska to the southernmost part of South America, to Europe, the Middle East, Asia, New Zealand and Australia.

In the latter 20th century the American Indian Movement and other freedom-seeking organizations ushered in a tremendous upsurge of Native activism resulting in the 1970 Mayflower takeover, the 1973 Trail of Broken Treaties, the 1973 Wounded Knee occupation and other defiant actions. Similarly the Idle No More movement may well bring about an even greater upheaval in the struggle for global justice for all oppressed peoples.

This is not just an Indian issue. The movement is reaching out to all justice-minded citizens to participate in INM, because the issues that are being fought for affect all the people of this earth.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/idle-no-more-native-movement-sweeps-canada-and-u-s/

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by: Albert Bender

January 25 2013

Idle No More is a Native protest movement that arose in Canada and is now engulfing that country and the U.S. Native communities from coast to coast in the U.S. have embraced this upheaval. Throughout our country, rallies of hundreds to thousands have performed traditional round dances flash mobs in support of INM, to the beat of drumming ,singing and chanting, in malls and other public venues. Some of these activities have taken place without incident and some have not. (Article continues below video).

(To see video check link at the end of article).

In certain parts of the country, most infamously Colorado and Minnesota, Native people have been barred from malls and even arrested for just "looking Native American." This is an unspeakable outrage. Police were quoted as telling mall security, "If they look Native American, tell them to leave." This is 1960s Mississippi-style racist police action directed against American Indian people for simply trying to assemble and exercise free speech in support of INM. Why isn't there a national uproar? Native people of the U.S. are realizing that the civil rights progress of the 1960s in many respects bypassed Indigenous citizens.

The INM movement, started by four Indigenous women in November last year and now sweeping the Western Hemisphere at warp speed, was in response to the Canadian government's Omnibus Bill C-45 that would further strip reservations of lands and also environmental protections. This infamous legislation was passed on December 14, after Assembly of First Nations (AFN) representatives were even barred from government meetings on the bill.

This led to a series of rallies and protests and a hunger strike by Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence demanding a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Steven Harper and the Governor General on Aboriginal rights. Chief Spence is camping out in a tepee on an ice-covered island in the Ottawa River across from Parliament Hill, Canada's seat of government.

In the meantime, the movement has sparked countless demonstrations and direct actions, including blockades of railways, roads and border crossings in Canada and rallies and flash mobs from coast to coast in the U.S. Suffice it to say that INM has morphed into the most massive Native American Indian movement in history. The movement is not new, but is the latest manifestation of centuries-old Native resistance to the exploitation, marginalization and continuous daily discrimination experienced by Indian citizens. Indeed, Native people have never forgotten that all of Canada and the U.S., two of the wealthiest nations in the world, is treaty land and that these two nations achieved their economic heights by using the land and resources of Indigenous nations that was for the most part illegally acquired.

On January 16 this year, INM held a national Day of Action that brought Canadian roads, railways and border crossings to a standstill with blockades. The blockades, though predominantly Indigenous, were often supported by non-Native participation. The movement, which started with Indian sovereignty and environmental protection, is now addressing a panoply of Native issues including poverty, suicides rates, joblessness, health and the protection of women. Media from around the world are covering INM.

But where, we may ask, is U.S. mainstream media coverage of this gigantic political movement? The "Buckskin Curtain" has struck again in an attempt to hide this immense social upheaval. But social media technology has circumvented the U.S. news machine. Indeed, INM support groups have arisen across the globe - throughout the Western Hemisphere from Alaska to the southernmost part of South America, to Europe, the Middle East, Asia, New Zealand and Australia.

In the latter 20th century the American Indian Movement and other freedom-seeking organizations ushered in a tremendous upsurge of Native activism resulting in the 1970 Mayflower takeover, the 1973 Trail of Broken Treaties, the 1973 Wounded Knee occupation and other defiant actions. Similarly the Idle No More movement may well bring about an even greater upheaval in the struggle for global justice for all oppressed peoples.

This is not just an Indian issue. The movement is reaching out to all justice-minded citizens to participate in INM, because the issues that are being fought for affect all the people of this earth.

http://www.peopleswo...canada-and-u-s/

+1 umbert I happen to be a member. We are idle No more.

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Is this true I have not heard nothing

#5 needs input where can I get more information

No Surrender No Retreat and No surrender

Chief Theresa Spence, a Canadian aboriginal chief from the remote northern Ontario community of Attawapiskat has been fasting since December 11 and has vowed to continue until Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper personally commits to meet with Native leaders for talks on several complaints, including new legislation that will harm native lands. Spence is at the center of an unprecedented Canadian aboriginal protest movement called "Idle No More" that began with four women in the province of Saskatchewan raising awareness about the Conservative government's budget bill, which was passed earlier this month that scales back environmental protections for lakes and rivers and makes it easier to sell reserve lands. "Flash mob" protests with traditional dancing and drumming have erupted in dozens of shopping malls across North America. There have been rallies, marches and highway blockades by aboriginal groups across Canada and supporters have emerged from as far away as New Zealand and the Middle East. The campaign aims to draw attention to the dismal living conditions faced by many of the country's 1.2 million natives, including poverty, unsafe drinking water, inadequate housing, addiction and high suicide rates. Spence states that she has run out of patience. "I know it's hard for people to understand what I'm doing but it's for this pain that's been going on too long with our people.

"It has to stop and I'm willing to suffer until the meeting goes on. Even if I don't make it, people will continue my journey. Like I keep saying, I'm willing to die for the people of First Nations because the suffering is too much. Why are they so afraid to meet with us?" she said. In 2008 PM Harper formally apologized on behalf of Canada for having in the past forced 150,000 aboriginal children into residential schools, where many were abused.

Meanwhile, with the help of social media the Idle No More movement has taken on a life of its own in much the same way the first "Occupy Wall Street" camp gave birth to a multitude of "occupy" protests with no specific demand or leadership. "This has spread in ways that we wouldn't even have imagined," said Sheelah McLean, an instructor at the University of Saskatchewan who was one of the four women who originally coined the "Idle No More" slogan. "What this movement is supposed to do is build consciousness about the inequalities so that everyone is outraged about what is happening here in Canada. Every Canadian should be outraged."

Idle No More calls on all people to join in a revolution which honors and fulfills Indigenous sovereignty which protects the land and water. Colonization continues through attacks to Indigenous rights and damage to the land and water. We must repair these violations, live the spirit and intent of the treaty relationship, work towards justice in action, and protect Mother Earth...Promote Idle No More:

http://www.idlenomore.com/

Chief Theresa Spence, a Canadian aboriginal chief from the remote northern Ontario community of Attawapiskat has been fasting since December 11 and has vowed to continue until Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper personally commits to meet with Native leaders for talks on several complaints, including new legislation that will harm native lands. Spence is at the center of an unprecedented Canadian aboriginal protest movement called "Idle No More" that began with four women in the province of Saskatchewan raising awareness about the Conservative government's budget bill, which was passed earlier this month that scales back environmental protections for lakes and rivers and makes it easier to sell reserve lands. "Flash mob" protests with traditional dancing and drumming have erupted in dozens of shopping malls across North America. There have been rallies, marches and highway blockades by aboriginal groups across Canada and supporters have emerged from as far away as New Zealand and the Middle East. The campaign aims to draw attention to the dismal living conditions faced by many of the country's 1.2 million natives, including poverty, unsafe drinking water, inadequate housing, addiction and high suicide rates. Spence states that she has run out of patience. "I know it's hard for people to understand what I'm doing but it's for this pain that's been going on too long with our people.

"It has to stop and I'm willing to suffer until the meeting goes on. Even if I don't make it, people will continue my journey. Like I keep saying, I'm willing to die for the people of First Nations because the suffering is too much. Why are they so afraid to meet with us?" she said. In 2008 PM Harper formally apologized on behalf of Canada for having in the past forced 150,000 aboriginal children into residential schools, where many were abused.

Meanwhile, with the help of social media the Idle No More movement has taken on a life of its own in much the same way the first "Occupy Wall Street" camp gave birth to a multitude of "occupy" protests with no specific demand or leadership. "This has spread in ways that we wouldn't even have imagined," said Sheelah McLean, an instructor at the University of Saskatchewan who was one of the four women who originally coined the "Idle No More" slogan. "What this movement is supposed to do is build consciousness about the inequalities so that everyone is outraged about what is happening here in Canada. Every Canadian should be outraged."

Idle No More calls on all people to join in a revolution which honors and fulfills Indigenous sovereignty which protects the land and water. Colonization continues through attacks to Indigenous rights and damage to the land and water. We must repair these violations, live the spirit and intent of the treaty relationship, work towards justice in action, and protect Mother Earth...Promote Idle No More:

http://www.idlenomore.com/

http://www.idlenomore1.blogspot.ca/2012/12/face-and-leaders-of-idle-no-more-is.html

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In Alaska, alaska natives, is what we call ourselves, in my view, we have it good. Our people are getting educated, we have great jobs, and we have the potential to become wealthy. It's in our own hands. Of course, there are problems, we know we are being short-changed by our gov't. and oil companies, and even by our own native leaders. Our leaders aren't strong enough to stave off the bribes and the tide is too great. The gov't. builds us small houses in our communities and our streets need maintainace, jobs are limited. But, that's the case everywhere. I know they should do better, but if our people would recieve the gospel & obey God's word, noboby would be able to stop the blessings. 2 Chron. 7:14.

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In Alaska, alaska natives, is what we call ourselves, in my view, we have it good. Our people are getting educated, we have great jobs, and we have the potential to become wealthy. It's in our own hands. Of course, there are problems, we know we are being short-changed by our gov't. and oil companies, and even by our own native leaders. Our leaders aren't strong enough to stave off the bribes and the tide is too great. The gov't. builds us small houses in our communities and our streets need maintainace, jobs are limited. But, that's the case everywhere. I know they should do better, but if our people would recieve the gospel & obey God's word, noboby would be able to stop the blessings. 2 Chron. 7:14.

Keep the faith my brother. The word of god is spreading throughout the nations. If it does not lead to our salvation in this world . It will in the next.

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Do we need to laugh or cry ???

This is what came out of one of the Ottawa newspaper last week !!!! :lol: :lol:

Ago now 25 days the head of the Attawapiskat reserve performed "hunger strike" (she eats when even fish broth) in the hope of meeting the Prime Minister Harper. (Editor's Note: Harper has announced that he would meet with Aboriginal leaders.)Theresa Spence is presented as a martyr by the media who swallow everything she says because the journalists have the heart in the right place. That is to the left. In addition, his younger and the Idle No More movement it spawned, fall for the media: it's a quiet period of the year and must still meet the newsletters and the pages of the newspapers.Attawapiskat is the village of third-world of Northern Ontario which made headlines there is a little more than a year because of the appalling living conditions of its inhabitants. The incompetence and negligence of Theresa Spence were directly responsible for the catastrophic situation of the reserve. The hamlet which has some 1500 people in 300 households is administered by 21 Aboriginal politicians: three chiefs and 18 Councillors at full time. It looks like the city of Montreal!Since his election seven years ago, the Harper Government spent unaudited $ 90 million on Attawapiskat, or $50,000 for each man, woman and child. Theresa Spence refuses to disclose what happened to the Canadian taxpayers ' money.The truth is Theresa Spence and his acolytes of the Attawapiskat band Council need a serious weight loss cure. Ezra Levant Sun News has obtained the financial statements of the reserve. They indicate that the lover of Chief Theresa Spence, who is also Manager of the village, is paid $850 per day. In addition to his salary of Mayor Spence operates the daycare centre of the hamlet for a salary of $8,000 per month. The Chief and his "chum" therefore receive their two close to $350,000 per year non-taxable because they are Indians and living on a reserve. The reserve also has a "handling technology" who earns $171,000 a year. Another Member of the band Council has spent $68,000 in travel over a period of two months.Among other disturbing information discovered by Levant, we learn the Attawapiskat band Council has a stock portfolio of $ 9 million. Sell actions sometimes to improve the housing or the health of the inhabitants of the reserve? According to Levant, the Council was liquidated for $200,000 shares for undisclosed gifts, $36,000 for part of the wild goose hunt and $96,000 for the purchase of a new Zamboni to the skating rink of the reserve so that it had already a, but of an older model. Also had to demolish the school of the village because the band Council had it built on a toxic waste site.This is how the band Council spends the money it administers the reserve members live in abject living conditions. Attawapiskat is just one example among hundreds of others across the Canada. Waste and embezzlement of funds occur continuously for many years on the reserves, but successive Canadian Governments are afraid to intervene. They let indigenous criminals, with impunity, divert and steal fortunes.Despite huge amounts to the Indians living on-reserve conditions are worse. Hundreds of thousands of people live in dismal conditions of poverty, physical and moral decay. On them is a class of profiteers who manages the reserves, assisted by a veritable industry of Aboriginal poverty dominated vultures lawyers who advise the leaders on the best way to extort money from the federal Government.Idle no more and the head Spence will succeed in a mass against the Harper Government movement a coalition as the students have done against Charest last spring? Difficult to predict. Despite the media efforts to present the indigenous movement in a favourable way, it is not sure that it will be sufficient to mobilize the silent white majority of the ROC in their favour.The Harper Government is responsible for the current situation in the reserve because he refused to ring the end of recreation for corrupt leaders and force them to be accountable for how they manage the money entrusted Ottawa.The entire system is rotten. Should abolish the reserves and the Indian Act. Making indigenous citizens like the others. But it will never be because too many thieves and pigs benefit.

TNX Umbertino !!

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Do we need to laugh or cry ???

This is what came out of one of the Ottawa newspaper last week !!!! laugh.giflaugh.gif

Ago now 25 days the head of the Attawapiskat reserve performed "hunger strike" (she eats when even fish broth) in the hope of meeting the Prime Minister Harper. (Editor's Note: Harper has announced that he would meet with Aboriginal leaders.)Theresa Spence is presented as a martyr by the media who swallow everything she says because the journalists have the heart in the right place. That is to the left. In addition, his younger and the Idle No More movement it spawned, fall for the media: it's a quiet period of the year and must still meet the newsletters and the pages of the newspapers.Attawapiskat is the village of third-world of Northern Ontario which made headlines there is a little more than a year because of the appalling living conditions of its inhabitants. The incompetence and negligence of Theresa Spence were directly responsible for the catastrophic situation of the reserve. The hamlet which has some 1500 people in 300 households is administered by 21 Aboriginal politicians: three chiefs and 18 Councillors at full time. It looks like the city of Montreal!Since his election seven years ago, the Harper Government spent unaudited $ 90 million on Attawapiskat, or $50,000 for each man, woman and child. Theresa Spence refuses to disclose what happened to the Canadian taxpayers ' money.The truth is Theresa Spence and his acolytes of the Attawapiskat band Council need a serious weight loss cure. Ezra Levant Sun News has obtained the financial statements of the reserve. They indicate that the lover of Chief Theresa Spence, who is also Manager of the village, is paid $850 per day. In addition to his salary of Mayor Spence operates the daycare centre of the hamlet for a salary of $8,000 per month. The Chief and his "chum" therefore receive their two close to $350,000 per year non-taxable because they are Indians and living on a reserve. The reserve also has a "handling technology" who earns $171,000 a year. Another Member of the band Council has spent $68,000 in travel over a period of two months.Among other disturbing information discovered by Levant, we learn the Attawapiskat band Council has a stock portfolio of $ 9 million. Sell actions sometimes to improve the housing or the health of the inhabitants of the reserve? According to Levant, the Council was liquidated for $200,000 shares for undisclosed gifts, $36,000 for part of the wild goose hunt and $96,000 for the purchase of a new Zamboni to the skating rink of the reserve so that it had already a, but of an older model. Also had to demolish the school of the village because the band Council had it built on a toxic waste site.This is how the band Council spends the money it administers the reserve members live in abject living conditions. Attawapiskat is just one example among hundreds of others across the Canada. Waste and embezzlement of funds occur continuously for many years on the reserves, but successive Canadian Governments are afraid to intervene. They let indigenous criminals, with impunity, divert and steal fortunes.Despite huge amounts to the Indians living on-reserve conditions are worse. Hundreds of thousands of people live in dismal conditions of poverty, physical and moral decay. On them is a class of profiteers who manages the reserves, assisted by a veritable industry of Aboriginal poverty dominated vultures lawyers who advise the leaders on the best way to extort money from the federal Government.Idle no more and the head Spence will succeed in a mass against the Harper Government movement a coalition as the students have done against Charest last spring? Difficult to predict. Despite the media efforts to present the indigenous movement in a favourable way, it is not sure that it will be sufficient to mobilize the silent white majority of the ROC in their favour.The Harper Government is responsible for the current situation in the reserve because he refused to ring the end of recreation for corrupt leaders and force them to be accountable for how they manage the money entrusted Ottawa.The entire system is rotten. Should abolish the reserves and the Indian Act. Making indigenous citizens like the others. But it will never be because too many thieves and pigs benefit.

TNX Umbertino !!

SnooZ

Yes I really wouldnt expect anything different to come come out of your mouth`s

USA / Canada Same Govt same lies

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Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence is a thief with her hand caught in the cookie jar. She uses this " so called " hunger strike to draw attention away from the Investigation regarding the missing funds.

While there are legitimate concerns in the first nations, they must realize that there comes a time when they must be responsible for there own destiny.

When my house is in disrepair, it is me and my husband that must make and pay the repairs, not the Government.

When I get a job, it is me that is required to show up 5 days a week, and not miss the day following payday and the next several days until broke. If that was me I would be fired and unemployed.

I do not expect the Government to send me a check for staying home every two weeks so I can smoke, drink and gamble while complaining about the white man.

I do not complain about the Justice system when I am in court on a break and enter charge as being biased against me. I believe all criminals should have there sorry azzez thrown in jail for trying to steal the things I worked hard to buy.

Should an elder require assistance to survive, I have no problem with that at all. Our Country needs to help those in need.

"Give us back our land " ? this is a statement made by older generations. The young natives of today have always had, DVD's, big screen TV's, computers, McDonalds,pick-up trucks and rodeo's but hey lets jump on the band wagon, even though everyone else needs to work to pay us for " stealing " our land.

The only thing I am guilty of is supporting a government that has allowed thing to carry on for way to long.

Its time for the natives to get off there azz and get a job !!! Catch up with the times. the free ride is about to end !!!

Let the bashing begin.

pp

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Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence is a thief with her hand caught in the cookie jar. She uses this " so called " hunger strike to draw attention away from the Investigation regarding the missing funds.

While there are legitimate concerns in the first nations, they must realize that there comes a time when they must be responsible for there own destiny.

When my house is in disrepair, it is me and my husband that must make and pay the repairs, not the Government.

When I get a job, it is me that is required to show up 5 days a week, and not miss the day following payday and the next several days until broke. If that was me I would be fired and unemployed.

I do not expect the Government to send me a check for staying home every two weeks so I can smoke, drink and gamble while complaining about the white man.

I do not complain about the Justice system when I am in court on a break and enter charge as being biased against me. I believe all criminals should have there sorry azzez thrown in jail for trying to steal the things I worked hard to buy.

Should an elder require assistance to survive, I have no problem with that at all. Our Country needs to help those in need.

"Give us back our land " ? this is a statement made by older generations. The young natives of today have always had, DVD's, big screen TV's, computers, McDonalds,pick-up trucks and rodeo's but hey lets jump on the band wagon, even though everyone else needs to work to pay us for " stealing " our land.

The only thing I am guilty of is supporting a government that has allowed thing to carry on for way to long.

Its time for the natives to get off there azz and get a job !!! Catch up with the times. the free ride is about to end !!!

Let the bashing begin.

pp

I will not bash you or give you a Neg But you cannot judge a whole people by a few. Just like in this country we have black and latino`s, whites milking the system . As you say sitting on their sorry A$$`s and collecting the food stamps. Oh so only native Americans get the handout`s in your Canada. I see just Indians get entitlements in your country and there`s no white`s on them . Right? so I should say all blacks, latino`s and poor whites are all just a waste and their people are no good. NO don't think so. There is lazy and worthless in all colors. Also in your country its OK to judge and convict before the trial has even started? Nothing you say has yet been proven that is fact. Also in my younger days bear hunting in your country I seen first hand how you treat your Indian people. So no I offer no bashing but I do strongly disagree. As is my right in this country

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I will not bash you or give you a Neg But you cannot judge a whole people by a few. Just like in this country we have black and latino`s, whites milking the system . As you say sitting on their sorry A$$`s and collecting the food stamps. Oh so only native Americans get the handout`s in your Canada. I see just Indians get entitlements in your country and there`s no white`s on them . Right? so I should say all blacks, latino`s and poor whites are all just a waste and their people are no good. NO don't think so. There is lazy and worthless in all colors. Also in your country its OK to judge and convict before the trial has even started? Nothing you say has yet been proven that is fact. Also in my younger days bear hunting in your country I seen first hand how you treat your Indian people. So no I offer no bashing but I do strongly disagree. As is my right in this country

Having worked with the natives of my country I see this first hand a lot. Are all natives this way ? absolutely not.

Are there other ethnic groups that abuse the system ? You bet there is, but the native community continues to abuse the system by doing so through the media.

Blacks, Latinos, Asian groups have worked hard to be accepted by Canadian society and they came here by one means or another and are accepted.

The native population was born here, and have not earned our respect. I wish they would, as there is a lot of natives who work darn hard and deserve global respect for there contribution and not a token nod.

I point you mention that I do agree with is your right to disagree. That is a freedom that we can enjoy were many cannot.

As a added note, the original post was about natives and not any other group.

pp

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Having worked with the natives of my country I see this first hand a lot. Are all natives this way ? absolutely not.

Are there other ethnic groups that abuse the system ? You bet there is, but the native community continues to abuse the system by doing so through the media.

Blacks, Latinos, Asian groups have worked hard to be accepted by Canadian society and they came here by one means or another and are accepted.

The native population was born here, and have not earned our respect. I wish they would, as there is a lot of natives who work darn hard and deserve global respect for there contribution and not a token nod.

I point you mention that I do agree with is your right to disagree. That is a freedom that we can enjoy were many cannot.

pp

Hahahahaha deserve YOUR respect.

Your GOVT and mine can take YOUR respect and shove it right up YOUR A$$`s

Both GOVT`s yours and mine have lied , cheated , manipulated, Broke every treaty ever written. Justified every trumped up charge and false allegation, to steal Indian land and you have the nerve to think for a minute that we actually give a shat about YOUR respect.

hahahahahahahaha

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I was talking lately to an Algonquin chief here (Small reserve) and that is exactly what he as brought up to my attention !!! The community are strugling hard to make them self a living, and been complaining on how corrupted those big well knowed chiefs are, anyway, bare with me, many of those communities have their rights, but when corruption is one of their main issues, that make you go ummmmm !!!???? I guess corruption is not only in Iraq, look around your own backyards !!!! You'll be surprised..... And not changing my mind over that 'Idle no more " still a big joke !!!

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Hahahahaha deserve YOUR respect.

Your GOVT and mine can take YOUR respect and shove it right up YOUR A$$`s

Both GOVT`s yours and mine have lied , cheated , manipulated, Broke every treaty ever written. Justified every trumped up charge and false allegation, to steal Indian land and you have the nerve to think for a minute that we actually give a shat about YOUR respect.

hahahahahahahaha

WASHITA

There is no washita in Canada but alcoholism and crime. And that effects all cultures, not just natives.

No amount of money the Government throws at this problem will help. Natives have got to step up to the plate and start to fend for them selves, not expecting government handouts like normal

Sorry dog53, it a sad but true fact. You can neg me. It won't make me bleed or lose sleep.

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Umbertino - no bash at you for posting this - quote:

"In certain parts of the country, most infamously Colorado and Minnesota, Native people have been barred from malls and even arrested for just "looking Native American." This is an unspeakable outrage. Police were quoted as telling mall security, "If they look Native American, tell them to leave." This is 1960s Mississippi-style racist police action directed against American Indian people for simply trying to assemble and exercise free speech in support of INM. Why isn't there a national uproar? Native people of the U.S. are realizing that the civil rights progress of the 1960s in many respects bypassed Indigenous citizens." Unquote

I've lived in both states for years and I don't know where the writer of that article got his information but he is full of it and I'm sure his eyes are brown because of it. In all my years in both states I've NEVER seen or heard of this kind of baloney. I remember the Wounded Knee 1973 South Dakota fiasco where I still believe to this day that the U.S. government was totally in the wrong. But for MN and CO stopping First Nations people from entering places of business - ridiculous.

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Thank You Umbertino For Bringing This In. smile.gif

I have a Indian blood in my heritage, my great, great grandmother was full blooded Iroquois... I think I may have gotten her nose.

Regardless... I have always enjoyed learning about the Indian culture and the views towards the people, the land and animals. Very Spiritual.

When I was trying to help my son years ago I ran across some books, one being the "Medicine Wheel" that had wonderful insight's that did help us.

My son had "lost his feet" and there was a lot of wisdom in how to help him spiritually in getting them back. Unfortunately he lost them again...

A couple of months ago I heard a woman speak about how she (at eight years old) and her siblings were "kidnapped" from her parents one day as

they were walking down the side of the road by government agents that took them to an Indian school. Her parents lived off the land and did not

speak english so even after they finally knew what happened to their children they were in no position to fight back. The Mormons and Catholics

would come on Sundays and take the kids to church... she made friends with a Mormon family and they decided to adopt her to get her out of the

school which was very abusive and cruel... her siblings were not so lucky and were very damaged by what happened. They were not allowed to hold

onto any of their culture, even if they tried to speak to each other in their own language they were beaten.

My point is... this was not that long ago, it was in the sixties, they have been oppressed in many other ways since then too. So horrible most wouldn't

believe it. Medical procedures to prevent babies against the womans knowledge or will. Total lack of rights imposed by our government policies...

So while there may be some opportunist that are less than honest, as a whole the Indians fight for their rights is far from over.

They are still oppressed... One example is a historical place not far from where I live called "Indian Pipe Springs" The reservation is across the road yet

the site is owned and run by the white man, they offer daily tours and have a token Indian sitting outside whittling a stick while they collect all the

revenues. I was shaking my head as I saw this because I was sure that this place had significant historical value to this tribe... when I asked the tour

guide why the Indians didn't still have this place within the reservation, he told me "they gave it to us".

Hahahahaha deserve YOUR respect.

Your GOVT and mine can take YOUR respect and shove it right up YOUR A$$`s

Both GOVT`s yours and mine have lied , cheated , manipulated, Broke every treaty ever written. Justified every trumped up charge and false allegation, to steal Indian land and you have the nerve to think for a minute that we actually give a shat about YOUR respect.

hahahahahahahaha

WASHITA

Took away your neg Dog, not that we really give a Damn about negs... on this subject we both passionately AGREE!!!

I will do my best when I have some time to bring in some information that may make a few heads turn, some people have no idea...

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I hope that some of you might take a little time with this post and perhaps learn something new about a beautiful group of people and a beautiful culture...

On A Positive Note... Here are some short youtubes.

"Native American ~ Words of Wisdom"

"The Diversity And Beauty Of Native American Woman"

"Native American Men"

"The Ten Commandments Of The Native American Indians"

Not So Positive, But The Truth Should Be Known...

"Indian Boarding School Abuse"

Forced Sterilization of Native Americans

http://encyclopedia....-Americans.html (ARTICLE)

Yes there is corruption by some of the current leaders, power plays and taking bribes... That does not excuse the evil things that were done to them by the US Government.

It will no doubt take generations to overcome the atrocities that were committed against them.

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I will not bash you or give you a Neg But you cannot judge a whole people by a few. Just like in this country we have black and latino`s, whites milking the system . As you say sitting on their sorry A$$`s and collecting the food stamps. Oh so only native Americans get the handout`s in your Canada. I see just Indians get entitlements in your country and there`s no white`s on them . Right? so I should say all blacks, latino`s and poor whites are all just a waste and their people are no good. NO don't think so. There is lazy and worthless in all colors. Also in your country its OK to judge and convict before the trial has even started? Nothing you say has yet been proven that is fact. Also in my younger days bear hunting in your country I seen first hand how you treat your Indian people. So no I offer no bashing but I do strongly disagree. As is my right in this country

Totally agreed.

Umbertino - no bash at you for posting this - quote:

"In certain parts of the country, most infamously Colorado and Minnesota, Native people have been barred from malls and even arrested for just "looking Native American." This is an unspeakable outrage. Police were quoted as telling mall security, "If they look Native American, tell them to leave." This is 1960s Mississippi-style racist police action directed against American Indian people for simply trying to assemble and exercise free speech in support of INM. Why isn't there a national uproar? Native people of the U.S. are realizing that the civil rights progress of the 1960s in many respects bypassed Indigenous citizens." Unquote

I've lived in both states for years and I don't know where the writer of that article got his information but he is full of it and I'm sure his eyes are brown because of it. In all my years in both states I've NEVER seen or heard of this kind of baloney. I remember the Wounded Knee 1973 South Dakota fiasco where I still believe to this day that the U.S. government was totally in the wrong. But for MN and CO stopping First Nations people from entering places of business - ridiculous.

Sage... Thanks for your post.....I only copy-pasted the article cos I deemed it of interest. I surely admit I'm no expert at all regarding American Indian issues and matters tho I'm fascinated by the topic for many reasons.... I just liked the article and decided to post it so that People here could comment about it..

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I hope that some of you might take a little time with this post and perhaps learn something new about a beautiful group of people and a beautiful culture...

On A Positive Note... Here are some short youtubes.

"Native American ~ Words of Wisdom"

"The Diversity And Beauty Of Native American Woman"

"Native American Men"

"The Ten Commandments Of The Native American Indians"

Not So Positive, But The Truth Should Be Known...

"Indian Boarding School Abuse"

Forced Sterilization of Native Americans

http://encyclopedia....-Americans.html (ARTICLE)

Yes there is corruption by some of the current leaders, power plays and taking bribes... That does not excuse the evil things that were done to them by the US Government.

It will no doubt take generations to overcome the atrocities that were committed against them.

Just the way you came on doing this post has more merrits than anything you could imagine !!! I say Thank you maggie !!! You are something !!! :D:) :) Thank you !!

SnooZ

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Just the way you came on doing this post has more merrits than anything you could imagine !!! I say Thank you maggie !!! You are something !!! biggrin.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif Thank you !!

SnooZ

Your Welcome Snooz smile.gif And Thank You, I'm glad you enjoyed them.

I have to say I got as much out of it as you did... I loved finding these first few to post. They are truly beautiful in their words, music and art.

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My only "experiences" with American Indians were 1) One night In Bloomington, IN I casually met a Young Man and he started a conversation with me and it was extremely strong and sad ( I got to cry, I admit) life testimony to me what he told me about his life ( reservation, etc.) as it was stuff I had only read in books or seen on TV programs. And NO .He didn't ask me for anything ( money or other stuff).. He just wanted to talk and share. He was very down ( sad but not drunk at all... very sharp in his reasoning infact) and I felt bad myself .

The 2nd experience I had was ....getting to talk almost on a regular basis with a colleague ( I used to work in a day-care center as voluntary non- paid activity in Bloomington for one year) who was a young Cherokee from Oklahoma and he told me many interesting things which impressed me esp. when he told me about the practice of being sent alone in the wilderness for 15 days and having to get himself food and water out of nothing planned or prepared.... And many other things he told me. I still remember both testimonials to this day.

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Very nice Maggie but you cannot change the minds or attitudes of people like the 2 posters above. The Nations were swept under the carpet long ago. They are exactly what this gov has made them. They are expected to live live off the GOVT Teat because that's all they have ever known. Their Gods their culture even there language was stripped from them. As a people they were merely ghosts in the shadows. They have came a long way in reclaiming a little of what was once theirs. Re-learning the legends and the language has helped them somewhat restore a piece of them that has been missing. There were more of us killed off then the Jewish holocaust but it is never spoken of. I want nothing from this GOVT other then to be left alone by it. The nations are healing slowly. Its one step forward and three back and its because of the mind set of the likes of ones above who think that we somehow would want their respect. We need to be left alone . WE will deal with our alcoholics , drug addicts and the lazy who refuse to work and the coruption within our leaders. Like they deal with theirs.

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Your Welcome Snooz smile.gif And Thank You, I'm glad you enjoyed them.

I have to say I got as much out of it as you did... I loved finding these first few to post. They are truly beautiful in their words, music and art.

I absolutely understand the meaning of your words.....Think of having native blood inside no matter how far it is, Their whole culture is something I love also !! Thanks you Maggie :)

:D :D :D

SnooZ

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