40 REASONS WHY OBAMA AND ROMNEY ARE THE SAME CANDIDATE

[jonjon]

You forgot one!

Both Obama and Romney actually won their Primary Elections.

We do have a choice.

Edited August 18, 2012 by jonjon

[tellmewhen]

I like RP to. I like the young politician idea as well.

[slb]

One is a socialist and one is a capitalist. It's really that simple. Make your choice accordingly......

[carlos in san diego]

So what is the solution, Carlos? I understand you don't like either candidate (or party), but you don't mention what you think the answer is. This election we only have two choices...if you want or believe we should have or need a third choice, give us one. Otherwise I fail to see why you would post this type of information. That sounds a bit harsh...it is my opinion that if someone wants to shine a light on a problem or an issue, one should also shine a light on a solution for said problem. So...your 40 points are easy to read, but I don't see your solution.

Your point is well taken, but you are being a bit harsh. I did not say I was Jesus Christ. I'm just a regular dude trying to make sense of it all too. Maybe I can offer no other solution that to tell you what I DID DO, and that was vote for RON PAUL< I wrote him in on a democratic primary ticket.I guess if your going to be asked to lead, do it out front and not from behind.

One thing I know...is that the New World Order needs to be booted out of our government and our country and keep the bastards out once and for all. We do not have a democracy anymore. It's a fascist state run by Americas corporations and super wealthy. Elections have been a foregone conclusion for generations now. Our votes are irrelevant, the country is being "steered" not by us, but by the Elite who's only objective is to get every penny they can from us in any way they can. We are their prisoners!

Other than that brother....I don't know....you tell me? Carlos

[carlos in san diego]

Of course you want to compare your loosing president to ROMNEY/RYAN ticket because you dont have no ideas to run his campaign on no platform other than to name call romney.

Of course you are from San Diego and your state is broke led by democrats.

Jump off the sinking ship and,

Come jump on our wagon ROMENY/RYAN wagon.

Hold on!!!

Sure buddy...I'm going to join the team that has caused every economic downturn, market fluctuation, slowing of the economy , recession and depression we have had in the last 100 years through manipulation of the markets, putting millions out of work and throwing them into absolute despair. The same people responsible for causing every terrorist act and was we have seen since world war two! They are responsible for killing millions of people around the world so that they could profit!!! These are the people YOU want ME to join?

Sorry to disappoint you....I still value my human dignity, and won't sell out my neighbors and country men....Maybe you will and have,...but that's your choice. All I can say is I'm real glad I'm not YOU.

Carlos

kilkco ?? sorry about the spelling,, The answer is not stumickable by 99.9% of the p@()ssies. The voters are not supposed to quit telling our elected officials what to do AFTER they vote them into office. The answer is to make them do what is in the best intrest of the voters while they are in office thats what impeachment is about, your not doing the job we hired(voted) you to do so your fired period, but they (the gov) don't like that. The second ammendment READ IT EVERYBODY please. It gives us the RIGHT to bear arms so as to never have to live under an oppressive government. NOW, you know why they want to take our guns away they know they have us ALMOST totally oppressed

I like your attitude buddy...Carlos

1. They're the same species.

2. They both have black hair.

3. They both can drive automobiles.

4. They both eat vegetables.

5. They both breathe oxygen.

6. They both wear clothes.

7. They both rode bicycles as children.

8. They both have a high school education.

9. They both have a college education (we think).

10. They both take showers.

11. They both brush their teeth.

12. They both wash their hair.

13. They both get haircuts.

14. They both wear wedding bands.

15. They both want the same job.

16. They both take vacations.

17. They both read.

18. They both write.

19. They both speak English.

20. They both were born in the US. Oy, not that one. LOL

21. They both use the internet.

22. They both watch TV.

23. They both trim their toenails.

24. They both use dry cleaners.

25. They both get their blood pressure checked.

26. They both have pubic hair.

27. They both have eyelashes.

28. They both use artificial lighting.

29. They both cross state lines.

30. They both use pencils.

31. They both use pens.

32. They both have ten fingers.

33. They both have ten toes.

33. They both use soap.

34. They both use toothpaste.

35. They both smile.

36. They both get naked.

38. They both laugh.

39. They both have been out of the United States.

40. They both have wives.

Maybe it would be more useful to look at what they don't have in common. Since these are the two choices we have, and all.

I think you missed the point dude! Carlos

[flatdawg]

I am so glad that people don't call me a flip flopper because I've learned and changed my thinking and approach to all kinds of things. I guess it does depend on how you look at it

Touché.

I meant the sleaze ball politicians the will change their views to gain votes, then change back to appease their masters.

But you knew that.

[carlos in san diego]

Thanks for answering the question, Maggie. I appreciate you sharing your perspective.

I asked because I always like to know if there's something I missed. I don't agree with your reasoning, so my thinking isn't changed.

I posted another list of 40 things they have in common because I don't believe that many of the things on the first list are relevant because he has changed his position or they are outright untrue. In fact, I started a line by line rebuttal, eliminating most of the things on the list as currently relevant but I quit because I realized it was taking too long and it's a waste of time. Nobody's position is going to be changed by me investing an hour. You will either do your own homework, or you will believe whatever you read that's put in front of you.

Thanks for your time.

I guess the point I am trying to make Brokenomore...is that we are not in control of our country...The New World Order is. They are a Fascist Banker Cartel that is only looking out for themselves and no one else. If you honestly believe your political party is looking out for your well being...then your not reading the writing on the wall, they are doing one thing and telling you something completely different...Carlos

[BrokeNoMore]

I guess the point I am trying to make Brokenomore...is that we are not in control of our country...The New World Order is. They are a Fascist Banker Cartel that is only looking out for themselves and no one else. If you honestly believe your political party is looking out for your well being...then your not reading the writing on the wall, they are doing one thing and telling you something completely different...Carlos

I agree with this, Carlos.

But if you think that voting for Ron Paul will help, you're wrong. 1. He can't win. 2. He won't be allowed to take office or 3. he'll be assassinated before the end of his first summer.

I'd like to see the one man who will do our country damage more slowly get into office, and not the man who is 'ell bent on seeing us a marxist state now, since those are our two choices.

I didn't miss the point at all. Did you miss my point?

[carlos in san diego]

One is a socialist and one is a capitalist. It's really that simple. Make your choice accordingly......

Wrong...they are both politicians that have been bought. Any semblance of a difference is just to make you think there is a difference. To keep the American people think that their is a substantial difference between themIn the bigger picture, they are both told what to do....their wills are not their own. The Super Elite tell them what to do, and what to say. Our economy and our futures are being steered by the Rockerfeller and the Rothchilds of this world...The 1%

This is what the OCUPPY movement was / is all about! Carlos

[pattyangel]

Your point is well taken, but you are being a bit harsh. I did not say I was Jesus Christ. I'm just a regular dude trying to make sense of it all too. Maybe I can offer no other solution that to tell you what I DID DO, and that was vote for RON PAUL< I wrote him in on a democratic primary ticket.I guess if your going to be asked to lead, do it out front and not from behind.

One thing I know...is that the New World Order needs to be booted out of our government and our country and keep the bastards out once and for all. We do not have a democracy anymore. It's a fascist state run by Americas corporations and super wealthy. Elections have been a foregone conclusion for generations now. Our votes are irrelevant, the country is being "steered" not by us, but by the Elite who's only objective is to get every penny they can from us in any way they can. We are their prisoners!

Other than that brother....I don't know....you tell me? Carlos

Carlos, Thanks for being honest and I understand what your trying to put forth. But my concern is that when we write in our candidates name how are we to know that the Elite will not interfere with that vote.

How do we know that it will get counted in favor of our candidate. I guess we won't.

I think I stand along side with everyone saying this government has been and will continue to be corrupted. Something has to be done, because inch by inch we are losing our rights to be an American.

[jonjon]

Vote Romney/Ryan 2012

Because after Obama the USA deserves some R&R

[kid4dinar]

Really BrokeNoMore? What has been shown are how they are the same on Relevant Issues. You really think your post diminishes those facts? Why don't you tell us "What they don't have in common". That may be more productive. I would love to hear your perspective.

Ok I see your newest post asking for my perspective and I will give it to you briefly...

1.) Ron Paul doesn't play by the party rules, or the banks rules, or the lobby's rules, he stands up for his solutions, dispite not gaining their support. (that tells me a lot)

The Tea Party Does Cater To All Of Them.

2.) He is our best chance to stay out of a war in Iran. We are facing a crisis right now!

The Tea Party WOULD back Israel.

3.) He has the best plan for the economy. He does stand for less government control and a fair tax system. He would advance his work to end the Fed Reserve that has been robbing us blind. It would be best for you to check it out for yourself...

The Tea Party supports the "Trickle Down Theory". Don't know about you, but in the 10 years they have been trying this, I haven't seen a drop. Nobody else that I know has either. They would continue supporting the big banks and the large corporations because they are the ones "buttering their bread".

I'll go ahead and copy/paste a post that layed it out far better than I can or have time for...

Just in case you missed it.

Ron Paul he lost. Not only did he loose he conceded to Romney

[Maggie123]

No, he most certainly has not. Show me when he conceded to Romney!

[jonjon]

Wrong...they are both politicians that have been bought. Any semblance of a difference is just to make you think there is a difference. To keep the American people think that their is a substantial difference between themIn the bigger picture, they are both told what to do....their wills are not their own. The Super Elite tell them what to do, and what to say. Our economy and our futures are being steered by the Rockerfeller and the Rothchilds of this world...The 1%

This is what the OCUPPY movement was / is all about! Carlos

I have an inside source with the 1% - the elite. I am not allowed to reveal it but in the coming days you will all understand.

Oh hell, I’m not a guru, I’m going to go ahead and tell you. The voting booths will be rigged to send enough electrical current through anyone who cast a write in vote to knock them out.

So if you are still planning to cast a write in vote……..Go Ahead………Knock yourself out.

[kid4dinar]

RON PAUL SUPPORTERS

The few, the proud, the lonely.

Ron paul has been in this same govt that speak so bad about for more years and has become as corrupt as the same few you speak so badly of, yet he has only co sponsored 1 bill.

WOW!

How has he been able to stay in this corrupt govt for so long, with less of achievments in govt than BO did before he became president??

No, he most certainly has not. Show me when he conceded to Romney!

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/06/ron-paul-concedes-defeat-asks-supporters-to-be-respectful-in-tampa/

Here is just 1 want more???

[pattyangel]

I have an inside source with the 1% - the elite. I am not allowed to reveal it but in the coming days you will all understand.

Oh hell, I’m not a guru, I’m going to go ahead and tell you. The voting booths will be rigged to send enough electrical current through anyone who cast a write in vote to knock them out.

So if you are still planning to cast a write in vote……..Go Ahead………Knock yourself out.

jonjon, okay I'm not writing my vote in. That didn't take long to convince me. Thanks for the humor. I'm still at a lost. I'm sure my mind will be made up before the election.

[Maggie123]

Texas on the Potomac

Washington news with a Texas accent!

[joekooltrips]

1.- Obama and Romney both supported TARP

2.- Mitt Romney supported Obama's "economic stimulus" package.

3.- Mitt Romney says that Obama's bailout of the auto industry was his idea

4.-Neither candidate supports immediate balancing of the federal budget.

5.- They both support big government and both were big spenders while in office.

6.- Obama and Romney both fully support the Federal Reserve.

7.- Obama and Romney are both on record as saying that the President should not question the "independence" of the Federal Reserve.

8.-Obama and Romney both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has done a good job during the last financial crisis.

9.- Obama and Romney both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke should be renominated for a second term.

10.- Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

11.- Both Candidates are on record as saying that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has done a good job.

12.- Obama and Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

13.- Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based on.

14.- Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign contributions.

15.- Neither candidate wants to eliminate income tax or the IRS.

16.- Both candidates want to keep personal income tax levels at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.

17.- Both candidates are "open" to the idea of a "value added tax" on the American people.

18.-Obama and Romney both agree that the TSA is doing a "great" job.

19.- Obama and Romney are both supporters of the NDAA.

20.- Obama and Romney are both supported the renewal of the "Patriot Act"

21.- Obama and Romney both believe the Federal Government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are considered terrorists.

22.- Both candidates believe that American citizens that are considered terrorists can be killed by presidential decree.

23.- Obama did not close Guantanamo like he promised to do, Romney actually wants to double the amount of prisoners held there.

24.- Both candidates actually support the practice of "extraordinary rendition"

25.- They both support the job-killing "free trade"agenda of the global elite.

26.- Both accuse each other of shipping jobs overseas, and they are both right.

27.- Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.

28.- Neither candidate has any military experience, this is the first time this has happened in a US election since 1941.

29.- Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

30.- They both believe the theory of man made global warming.

31.- Romney has said he will support "cap and trade" carbon tax scheme, like the one Obama wants, as long as the entire globe goes along with it.

32.- Both candidates have a long record of strict gun control measures.

33.- Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their careers. Romney's "conversion" to pro life has been questioned by many. In fact Romney has made millions on Bain Capital's investment in a company called, "Stericycle' that incinerates aborted babies, collected in clinic.

34.- Obama and Romney both believe that the Boy scouts ban on *** troop leaders is wrong.

35.- Both candidates believe that a "two state solution" will bring peace to the middle east.

36.- Both candidates have a long history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

37.- Like Obama, Romney also plans to add "signing statements" to bill he signs.

38.- Both candidates have horrible record when it comes to job creation.

39.- Both candidates believes the President has the power to take the nation to war without the approval of Congress.

40.- Both candidates plan to continue to run up the government debt even though the government is now 16 trillion dollars in debt.

Source: Rumormillnews, friday, August 17, 2012

Personal comment: If this is not evidence that BOTH candidates are controlled by the New World Order...I don't know what it will take to convince you to the contrary. You continue to fight among yourself over the supposed differences that your political party is said to have that makes it better than the other, when in fact there is NO difference at all. Our political circus is controlled and so is our media. When will you people wake up? Carlos

Lol, True that Carlos, Right Wing, Left Wing BUT still part of the same F-U BIRD !............

[slb]

Occupy movement, seriously...If you can't see a difference your beyond help. I suggest you spend more time looking and/or actually working and less time with the occupy movement!

[geman]

Vote Romney/Ryan 2012

Because after Obama the USA deserves some R&R

Amen we sure could.

[flatdawg]

Ron paul has been in this same govt that speak so bad about for more years and has become as corrupt as the same few you speak so badly of,

How has he been able to stay in this corrupt govt for so long, with less of achievments in govt than BO did before he became president??

A link to Paul's corruption please.

yet he has only co sponsored 1 bill. WOW!

Sometimes it's not what you sponsor or co-sponsor that's important, it's what you vote against .

Kid, I'm guessing it's a public school you go to.

Maybe when the Dinar hits you'll have enough money to get a decent education.

[kliklok00]

Your point is well taken, but you are being a bit harsh. I did not say I was Jesus Christ. I'm just a regular dude trying to make sense of it all too. Maybe I can offer no other solution that to tell you what I DID DO, and that was vote for RON PAUL< I wrote him in on a democratic primary ticket.I guess if your going to be asked to lead, do it out front and not from behind.

One thing I know...is that the New World Order needs to be booted out of our government and our country and keep the bastards out once and for all. We do not have a democracy anymore. It's a fascist state run by Americas corporations and super wealthy. Elections have been a foregone conclusion for generations now. Our votes are irrelevant, the country is being "steered" not by us, but by the Elite who's only objective is to get every penny they can from us in any way they can. We are their prisoners!

Other than that brother....I don't know....you tell me? Carlos

I thought I may have come across a bit stern...not my intent. When I think about Ron Paul (who I like very much...even sent him money), he reminds me of you in a way. He points out problems and issues within the leadership department of our government. He has been "fighting" the good fight, yet if you look at his record it is pretty dismal. Why? Because the two party system is loyal...corrupt, but loyal (to the system). They fight back and are backed with billions (if not trillions) of dollars. On the other hand, his fight has stirred up a lot of voters (finally!)...and to me, that is the beginning of the solution. We all want immediate results for all of our government problems, but we must remember, we have generations of corruption to get rid of. Start the process by shining a light on the problem...get voters stirred up...start voting in young men and women who are fed up with the status quo...and we will see change.

It won't be easy and it won't be immediate...but it will work if we keep fighting.

Check out Rep. Amash from Michigan...he has a Facebook page and has not missed a single vote in the House since being elected to his post. He explains EVERY vote to his constituents via his website and Facebook. I can't vote for him because I live in Texas...but I can use him as an example of who I want in Congress...and the more he is supported / talked about, the more people like him will take up the challenge and jump into the fray. It is a start, right?

[BrokeNoMore]

Kid, I'm guessing it's a public school you go to.

Maybe when the Dinar hits you'll have enough money to get a decent education.

With an internet connection a decent education is free.

A piece of paper, now, that's expensive!

[simple]

So much negativism and conclusions from headline readers. This 40 incites the headline followers and breeds behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment. Headlines get your attention, thoroughness get you facts.

Broken-o-More doesn't care about the details, - headliner and rumor man - ! "I'm not really interested in links to show why things are true when the vast body of knowledge proves otherwise." How insidious can one be?

Read more:

But I do know that wasn't your real objective Carlos.

[carlos in san diego]

So much negativism and conclusions from headline readers. This 40 incites the headline followers and breeds behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment. Headlines get your attention, thoroughness get you facts.

Broken-o-More doesn't care about the details, - headliner and rumor man - ! "I'm not really interested in links to show why things are true when the vast body of knowledge proves otherwise." How insidious can one be?

Read more:

But I do know that wasn't your real objective Carlos.

No my objective was not to create discord or bad feelings...these things seem to happen even if that's not your intentions. The purpose was to show those who still believe that the Republican party and the Democratic party are basically different and completely independent of each other that they are living in a dream world. The New World Order controls both parties and it's their will that is being carried out....and not yours and mine. Our vote is irrelevant.

I am trying to wake the average american out of it's slumber...wake them up to the fact that the apathy they have is what has gotten them into this problem and we have to work together to get rid of the parasites that have taken over our government.

If you people think that what it boils down to is a choice between the less of two evils then you have no choice at all. If the lesser of two evils is what you are being offered by the establishment, then get rid of the establishment, and start over with a clean slate.

Thanks for you participation and your time....Carlos

I thought I may have come across a bit stern...not my intent. When I think about Ron Paul (who I like very much...even sent him money), he reminds me of you in a way. He points out problems and issues within the leadership department of our government. He has been "fighting" the good fight, yet if you look at his record it is pretty dismal. Why? Because the two party system is loyal...corrupt, but loyal (to the system). They fight back and are backed with billions (if not trillions) of dollars. On the other hand, his fight has stirred up a lot of voters (finally!)...and to me, that is the beginning of the solution. We all want immediate results for all of our government problems, but we must remember, we have generations of corruption to get rid of. Start the process by shining a light on the problem...get voters stirred up...start voting in young men and women who are fed up with the status quo...and we will see change.

It won't be easy and it won't be immediate...but it will work if we keep fighting.

Check out Rep. Amash from Michigan...he has a Facebook page and has not missed a single vote in the House since being elected to his post. He explains EVERY vote to his constituents via his website and Facebook. I can't vote for him because I live in Texas...but I can use him as an example of who I want in Congress...and the more he is supported / talked about, the more people like him will take up the challenge and jump into the fray. It is a start, right?

Thanks buddy for your considerate comments. I hope in some small way, I made you and others think about the consequences of what we face. If the New World Order controls our elections and candidates, then we do not have a democracy, and we are no longer free. Carlos