Crow Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) If this speculation comes true and this den of liars and thieves are in office.......NO MATTER WHAT RATE HITS....THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO HIT OUR WALLETS!!! Anyone that votes for him is an idiot in my honest opinion!!! Edited June 28, 2012 by Crow 21 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwizard Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 If this speculation comes true and this den of liars and thieves are in office.......NO MATTER WHAT RATE HITS....THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO HIT OUR WALLETS!!! Anyone that votes for him is an idiot in my honest opinion!!! I have to AGREE! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmasters Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 After reading the article yesterday amongst other things I'm not too worried about this .My state along with many others are on the path to telling the feds where they can stick it. . Good read here and may just be where many of us need to end up???? I do agree that those who voted for him are Idiots who swallowed the whole hope and change deal.Not so sure they were counting on ending up with no hope and pocket lint for change though.. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg167 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Perhaps this could be moved to a more appropriate forum since it doesn't have anything to do with Dinars. 4 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Perhaps this could be moved to a more appropriate forum since it doesn't have anything to do with Dinars. and your thread about being back from the banned had what to do with ...............LOP? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncirculd Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Where does the broke USofA get the tax money with millions of americans out of work. Who will pay these taxes? The supreme court is a laughing stalk. They were suppose to tell if it was constitutional. It is not to mandate commerce. But it is constitutional to tax us. Did someone forget to tell them that this is a capitalist country and not a socialist? So I have to pay a penalty now if I don't have insurance. I get sued if I don't pay my bill, but if I was illegal I won't get sued. How does that fly? Only in the NON FREE America. We are getting closer to the time of the Oath Keepers. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg167 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) and your thread about being back from the banned had what to do with ...............LOP? Point taken, my wrong does not excuse anyone else's however. Edited June 28, 2012 by jg167 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laid Back Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Political ideas and activities that are intended to represent ordinary people's needs and wishes. It can be understood as any political discourse that appeals to the general mass of the population, to the "people" as such, regardless of class distinctions and political partisanship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 What gave the GOP a landslide victory in 2010? Wasn't it Obamacare! What Chief Justice Roberts did is rekindle a losing cause for the marxists and exposed obama as a liar by arguing for obamacare as a tax. A stroke of GENIUS by the Chief Justice. Think about...,just think about! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pep007 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Parmenio you are right. I'm excited about the ruling, not because of Obamacare, but for the fact that a consumer clause can't be repealed but a tax can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pep007 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I meant commerce clause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Machine Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I meant commerce clause. Too late now ..... Consumer clause it is lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyTime Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Where does the broke USofA get the tax money with millions of americans out of work. Who will pay these taxes? The supreme court is a laughing stalk. They were suppose to tell if it was constitutional. It is not to mandate commerce. But it is constitutional to tax us. Did someone forget to tell them that this is a capitalist country and not a socialist? So I have to pay a penalty now if I don't have insurance. I get sued if I don't pay my bill, but if I was illegal I won't get sued. How does that fly? Only in the NON FREE America. We are getting closer to the time of the Oath Keepers. Nope! You don't pay a penality. You pay a TAX! Now that Roberts ruled the mandate is a TAX, you pay the $695 tax and government has to provide you with healthcare! Where else ya gonna get that for only $695 per year???? Now that ii is ruled being a TAX, and if they assess that TAX on you then they are obligated to provide the goods for that tax. They can't just tax you without providing you the benefits of that tax. That would be illegal taxation. So did Roberts juast get even with Obama in a brilliant move with ruling this the way he did? How is government going to pay to cover your healthcare for only $695 per year in taxes? LOL This move could force them to have to repeal this thing! It will bankrupt an already bankrupt corporation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncirculd Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Nope! You don't pay a penality. You pay a TAX! Now that Roberts ruled the mandate is a TAX, you pay the $695 tax and government has to provide you with healthcare! Where else ya gonna get that for only $695 per year???? Now that ii is ruled being a TAX, and if they assess that TAX on you then they are obligated to provide the goods for that tax. They can't just tax you without providing you the benefits of that tax. That would be illegal taxation. So did Roberts juast get even with Obama in a brilliant move with ruling this the way he did? How is government going to pay to cover your healthcare for only $695 per year in taxes? LOL This move could force them to have to repeal this thing! It will bankrupt an already bankrupt corporation! Oh yeah, I fully understand. That's why I am dropping my insurance and going with the cheap plan. But yes what the judge did was expose the law. I am really mad about those states that got sweet deals in lieu of a yes vote. I want the same deals. And what is worse all of them freaks who voted yes and didn't read it, which is most likely all of them should be brought on charges of fraud of misrepresentation of the people. That bill is still "WIDE OPEN" for lawsuits. No one read it, I think pelosi said, "lets pass it and see what's in it". How embarrassing that would be for the world to hear that from the most powerful country in the world when the speaker of the house says something so ignorant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 and your thread about being back from the banned had what to do with ...............LOP? Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Point taken, my wrong does not excuse anyone else's however. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncirculd Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 One of the neighbours who has a girl in college is working at a local pizza place. They have told her they will be cutting her hours down to 18 to 20 hours a week because of this new HealthCare Law. I wonder if the IRS will double dip when the employer ops out of offering healthcare and tax them for it, and then turn around to the employee and tax them for not getting a healthcare plan. Sounds to me like the IRS is out of control thanks to the Federal government. Giving them that power is crap. I think I'll join the Tea party folks and stop this outrageous taxing of the middle class. Heck, the poor already can hardly feed their family and they want them to dish out for healthcare? There are so many wrongs about this. Lawsuits are wide and I expect will keep coming. What about illegal folks? How will that work? How many representatives read it? That is what really urks me. How dare they? We put them in there to do their job? That tells me they didn't do it. Maybe we could legally fire them for not doing their job? I don't know where to find that, but I am sure I can find a lawyer who will. Ok I will shut up. Ranting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Perhaps this could be moved to a more appropriate forum since it doesn't have anything to do with Dinars. If you don't like what is being discussed here. Maybe it would be time for you to stick your head back in the sand and move on. nuff said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Perhaps this could be moved to a more appropriate forum since it doesn't have anything to do with Dinars. That is what OFF TOPIC means. It is in the appropriate forum. Unless it was in another forum earlier. I haven't been on here for a while. Roadrunner Edited July 2, 2012 by Roadrunner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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