DaveJen

Adam, I guess all the mods were right in resigning and leaving DinarVets. It has lost its orginal intent and has been turned over to those who are only here for greed like the above post. It is a shame that they do not see the hand of God upon the world and will be left out ultimately to God's greatest gift. If it is not to late, it is time for you take a stand and return from which you started. It is time to return to your first love and leave those whose first love is money where they will ultimately be left to be. Adam we are calling you back but the decisionis yours. As for me, I am told to leave this site and return no more. May God bless you as you return. You have lost your site to those who are controlled by the world instead of the Spirit.

Not agreeing does not make it untrue. Let he has ears hear, let he who eyes see. It is developing right before our eyes and it is a shame that only a few can see it.

Good test. I got 31 out of 33.

Luci, May God's riches and blessing be with your daughter and your family all the day long. May His peace which surpasses all understanding be with.

Yes believe it or not there are many of us who look to scripture in the right way and find very solid principals in dealing with finances. We also look there for our prinicpals of law, personal relationships and daily living. For those who approach it prayerfully it has the answer for anything we face. I know that is hard to believe for some. And some refuse to believe it. But failre to accept or believe makes it no less true and valid. May God bless those who look to Him for answers to life's problems.

Good post, good news. Not directly on Dinar but certainly close enough to give some hope for the future.

As a resident of Ohio and knowing Dennis the Menace personnaly I have found I have never agreed with a single word this man has ever said. He ran Cleveland into total bankruptcy and should not be allowed near our money. BUT. much to my surprise there is finally something he and I can agree on. Perhaps not for the same reason, but for the same principle, the Founding Father never intended for Congress to abdicate its power over the money. The Federal Reserve does much damage to this country and should be, along with the IRS, abolished. Let us move quickly to a FAIR Tax and be done with both the Fed and IRS.

We have an election coming up in about 17 months that we should be able to answer each of those questions with a vote. INMO we should already know the answer to each question asked. but the truth is there is still more educating to do. Keep up the good work. And yes let's send him back from wherever he is from today.

I am a self professed isolationist and am not ashamed of it. I have been espousing these same thoughts from waaaaaay back when I was in high school and have never changed and my 40th reunion is in three weeks. This wasa great post. And yes this could have been written by Ron Paul. GREAAAAAT Post.

It should not be "shame on Adam", it should be shame on the rude, immature, self-centered indviduals on here who have to bash everyone and everything that comes to the forum. Yes, this site is getting bad, but not because of Newbies, it is because of the frustrated old investors who thought this thing would go months or years ago and put thier eggs all in one basket. That is who should be ashamed.

Yes Netanyahu was much more graceful and respectful than the man who is an occupier of our White House. And should he be re-elected it will not be "if" but when the USA (not the people - but the governement - will turn against Israel. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Great humor. Anyone offended by this is offended by life. And we need humor. Toooooo many people take themselves sooooooo serious.

Unfortunately I agree with Doctor Williams prediction. However, it is for another reason. And I believe that what we desire with the Dinar will play into that reason. If all the supposed "intel" is to be believed the UST will receive a great influx of money from Dinar and a great reduction in US debt will occur. Of course one person will take and get credit for this, even though the RV was put in place by a previous adminstration. More importantly, if we read end time prophesy correctly the United States will not play a signifant role in it. And as Dr. Williams state the US will no longer be a superpower. For Biblical prophesy to come true this indeed does have to happen and will happen. For those who are open minded we are already seeing this with the current leadership turning thier back on Israel. Of course if you are not Christcentric none of this will be agreeable, but that does not make it untrue. Now while at first blush we want to ring our hands and say, "Oh my", it really is not a bad thing, for it ushers in the return of Lord and glorious days ahead. Maybe not as Americans, but as God's children.

I find it interesting that you would read out of my subject that I was referring to any one person or that I was referring to "keep" and not to the person that started the thread and insisted that the argument had to be continued in order to get their particular point across. In both cases there is a clear indication of an out of balance situation in their lives. And anytime we are out of balance, which it appears that the Dinar has done a good job of doing in many peoples life then help is needed. I was not suggesting anymore or anyless than that in my comments. And yes I would have to respectively disagree with your statement that, "if all you know ... is what you have read from this forum ....". You see you can know a great deal about a person by the tone and language they use. You can sense and hear the anger and insensity in one and the lack of maturity in the other. It is not enough to just hear but one must listen also. And there must be an understanding that the one common thread in any situation of balance that there is a common, yet unique underlying issue in that person's life. It is not enough to look at the sympton, but to look deeper within. That is why most programs that work on one issue do not work at all. Why?, because they do not get to the missing issue inside. The fact is, yes I was referring in this situation to keep, but not only keep but to all, sometimes including myself, that we have allowed the dinar to get us out of balance. And you should also note, that I thought Keep has much to give to these forums. But you can garner much more respect with a dose of humilty than you can with the stiffness in which he come across. As for "RV or Not" I simply see immaturity in wanting to keep the argument going when there was no hope of getting his point (right or wrong) across. Bottom line is that each of us have a little KEEP in us. It is not always pleasnt to know that and we should find ways of overcoming this allowing us to be so dominated by a single issue or subject. There is truly a big beautiful world out there whether there is ever an RV or not. Our lives should not come to depend upon it as it does with so many. I find much joy in the game of investing and I always want it to be a game and do fairly well at, but like with anything else, if it becomes a chore instead of a joy, I would just as soon give all of it away and do something else. Keep made it clear this is not his only thing I accept his word on that. His expressions do not indicate that to be fact, but I accept it as fact and wish him well. However, there are many who have allowed themselves to be totally consumed by this investment and early on I did also. No longer. I started this investment by attending a dinar club. I got quite bored with the same subject matter week in - week out. We have now converted it into an investment club and everyone enjoys it so much more and in fact are actually making some profits. They are coming back in balance. Will I stay in dinar, yes, and any other currency that is undervalued. It just won't be consumed by it. And that is truly what my statements were all about. They were not about KEEP himself, but all of us who from time to time get out of balance. No more no less. Sorry the post offended you and anyone else it may have offended it. I never like to offend, I allow God's Holy Spirit do that. May God bless each of you to the extent you deserve His blessing. Dave

This my friends is a good thread. God will bless as we are ready to receive His blessing and not one minute sooner. As as He gives remember to who much is given - much is expected. Be a wise steward of what He brings our way. For as He gives He can also take away. For His word says, that He causes ALL things to work to the good to those who love Him and called according to His purpose. If He believes this is bad He will not allow it to come to those who it can be bad for. His word also tells us that IF we turn from our wicked ways, IF we humble ourselves before HIM, IF we turn from our SIN, IF we beging to pray to HIM, THEN HE will hear from heaven and restore us. We have actions to do before He follows-up with His promise. Most do not like to hear this but it is none the less the true Word of God. May God bless each only to the point of which God determines that blessing to be. No more and no less. Dave

To say that you invested your hard earned money into this or anyother investment implies that you were/are an inmature investor who had no business investing in this or anyohter investment to begin with. I am sorry you made this mistake and now must see this investment come true because your very life depends upon it. As a pastor and counselor I love to follow certain threads on here. It really becomes a case study in human nature. Human nature is not always kind, but it is always true. And the truth is if this site has become your life, then you need to seek the help of a professional. You are not that much different that any other who has his/her life out of balance. Wether it be the workaholic or the alcoholic or the drug addict, there truly is something that you are masking. This is very apparent when I can see the underlying anger that comes to the surface when a post is made. It is much like a volcano that has been under pressure and that pressure is released against anyone who has dared to challenge your belief center. And just as a volcano you care not where you spew your lava. No one can argue with constructive criticism. But your criiticism is far from constructive. It is destructive. And not just to the individual you are directing your comments to but perhaps even more importantly to yourself. Again, like a volcano you explode, but remember that same volcano can also implode and destroy itself. And that would be ashame for if handled right you have a great power that could harnessed for good. It is within you to do just that. But the help you seek and need is from a source higher than any on this site. Please for all concerned and especially yourself seek out that source and let that source begin to guide you and heal you of your inner turmoil. Just a thought.

OHIO is still here. I believe we will lose our football coach before the rapture.

Shoot this sounds like a serious comment to me. At least factual.

All of that in just 50 years. The land was totally barren for all the years the Hebrews were in exile. What did the then occupiers

I know we all get frustrated, but the Master Himself said that we are to judge as we desire to be judged. If we judge harshly then we shall be judged harshly. If we judge with mercy, we shall be judged with mercy.

AMEN AMEN AMEN God is in charge, no matter what anyone may think. And yes pray accodrding to His well, not ours.

The Laws of our Land make it very clear that ANYONE who consorts with our enemy is guilty of TREASON. The "crack pot" in the White House is certianly guilty of multiple counts of TREASON and should not only be impeached but found guilty of TREASON with the appropriate punishment as prescribed by law. He is a disgrace and a laughing stock. And the thing that scares me the most is that the thing we each want the most, the RV, has a good chance of putting him back into the White House with nothing to lose (no legal attemp to remain for a third term". WE will be free to accomplish his desires which is an overthrow of the US Constitution. He is not a socialist or a communist. He is far far worse. He is a revolutionary with muslim ties that wants to destroy what is left of our country. Wake up America - Wake up Christians - See him for what he is.

Not sure who has ruled it out. Most economist friends of mine, whether invested, or not have ruled it in. I certainly do. In fact in the global market today you cannot leave fractional banking out of the mix in anyway. Not only our banking system, but the world banking system is very much a frational banking system and has been for over 100 years. And most exchanges between economies operate in this manner. In fact, without fractional banking there would be no banks operating and no economies. And while it may seem simple on the surface it is truly very convoluted in practice. And it truly is the means that the wealthy keep the middle class at bay.

I am not sure we have the complete grasp of all of this yet. The United States has learned some lessons since Viet Nam. We have learned that WAR can be a long term investment for our country. Remember it was George Bush who said Iraq would more than pay for itself. It is now time for Iraq to pay for itself. The US has already started another investment. It is called Lybia. It is quite clear that we had no justification for doing anything inside the Lybian country. They were not attacking another country (like in the first Gulf War). They were not making threats against us. Don't get me wrong, Lybia is a despot government but simply being a despot government does not give justification for going in. We are moving on Lybia for two reasons. 1: We recogonize a great investment from the one we are cashing in on. 2. We are using Lybia as a test of UN charter changes which gives other countries justification for the overthrow of existing countries even if it is only on speculation. So now the stage is set. We will receive a grand windfall from our Iraqi investment. The muslim in the White House will take credit and be re-elected by the not so bright electorate of the US and he will then use the same UN charter provisions being used to go int Lybia to go into Israel (the speech yesterday was a prelude to this) and have the governement of Israel be destroyed because they don't abide by world opionion. Can not understand why each of can't see the handwriting on the wall. It was all writtine about 2000 years ago.

Not sure where your math comes from but 2 million times 1 million on a 1:1 ration equals $2 Trillion not a quadtrillion. And we will not cash in with Iraq, we will cash in with the UST who in turn already have a contract to buy discounted oil. It really does not cost Iraq statistically more to RV at $4 or $5 than it does at $0.5. There have been some very good articles on this. Sorry Corrilo your post came in as I was posting.