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Iraqi, U.S. diplomats discuss peaceful means to end UN Chapter VII status


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Iraqi, U.S. diplomats discuss peaceful means to end UN Chapter VII status

Kuwait News Agency - 01 December, 2011

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari discussed on Wednesday with Assistant U.S. Secretary of State Jeffery Feltman peaceful steps and ways to help Iraq exit UN Chapter VII.

An Iraqi source AT the Foreign Ministry told KUNA, that Zebari and Feltman, who arrived here last night accompanied by U.S. Vice-President Joe Biden, also talked about political developments in Iraq and the region, including discussion to help Iraq get out of Chapter VII.

The two sides also tackled issues regarding relations between the U.S. consulate and Iraqi government, including preparations for mutual visits between the two sides.

The source added that the two sides also discussed U.S. military withdrawal at the end of this year and ways to improve relations on all levels.

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Thank you, Carla.

There is just a whole lot of UN Chapter 7 shaking goin' on! Come on, baby. Snake eyes!

There are too many high level representatives getting their name in the news over Chapter 7. You do not do that with an issue that you have no control over or think is a sinker. In situations such as this, smart people do not ask a question unless they know the answer, so to speak.

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With Kobler visiting Kuwait, and Maliki scheduled to go there BEFORE going to the U.S., I'm thinking this is a done deal, and that by the time Maliki gets there, HE will be dictating to THEM just exactly how and when it's going to happen. Kuwait's only choice will be to make nicey-nice and smile when the announcement is made. We may see a some monetary payment made to help them save face, as they're having political problems of their own now.

In particular, the focus of the Biden interviews have been on this subject. I believe it's a done deal, and that regarding the sanctions, their only plans are about how they will make Obama look good (I don't care either way...) when they announce it in Washington Dec. 12th-13th. HCL may have been completed by this time also.

There is NO WAY that the U.S., especially after this build up in the world press, would allow them to be denied this release as the troops are being withdrawn - NO WAY would they even CHANCE the harm that would come to the remaining (exiting) troops and those still at the embassy. The blowback from a continuation of Chapter 7 is something that our diplomatic relations would NEVER recover from, wasting all that we've sacrificed and invested.

[As an aside, if the U.S. administration has been smart, they will have negotiated something out of this, and my belief is that it will be in the timing of the RV. If it were to happen, say, two full weeks before the end of this year, there would be "significant" impact on tax revenues in early 2012, and therefore affect the election process.]

P.S. Just one more thing- check with an expert, but in the U.S., you may be paying your taxes quaterly if you suddenly show large increases in taxable income via FINCen forms.

Well, that's my opinion on what's up and what's goin' down. Solving the ministries, Article 140 would only further confirm an imminent RV. If you're familiar with the game of golf, when having a casual game with friends and on the putting green, if you just miss a long putt and the ball ends up just inches from the hole, it's a "gimme" (meaning that there's no need to actually knock it in, you just pick up the ball and take the stroke - your friends believe that there's NO WAY you'd miss from that close!).

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Just to add my :twocents:

I think that the combination of all the recent articles about the currency change at the same time as our troops withdrawal and the release from Chapter 7, is more confirmation that this RV will take place this December (or January at the latest) and not in two years! Not to mention the global financial crisis. The world leaders aren't going to go broke when there is Iraq, sitting on all this monetary VALUE that can be the boost that is badly needed!

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With Kobler visiting Kuwait, and Maliki scheduled to go there BEFORE going to the U.S., I'm thinking this is a done deal, and that by the time Maliki gets there, HE will be dictating to THEM just exactly how and when it's going to happen. Kuwait's only choice will be to make nicey-nice and smile when the announcement is made. We may see a some monetary payment made to help them save face, as they're having political problems of their own now.

In particular, the focus of the Biden interviews have been on this subject. I believe it's a done deal, and that regarding the sanctions, their only plans are about how they will make Obama look good (I don't care either way...) when they announce it in Washington Dec. 12th-13th. HCL may have been completed by this time also.

There is NO WAY that the U.S., especially after this build up in the world press, would allow them to be denied this release as the troops are being withdrawn - NO WAY would they even CHANCE the harm that would come to the remaining (exiting) troops and those still at the embassy. The blowback from a continuation of Chapter 7 is something that our diplomatic relations would NEVER recover from, wasting all that we've sacrificed and invested.

[As an aside, if the U.S. administration has been smart, they will have negotiated something out of this, and my belief is that it will be in the timing of the RV. If it were to happen, say, two full weeks before the end of this year, there would be "significant" impact on tax revenues in early 2012, and therefore affect the election process.]

P.S. Just one more thing- check with an expert, but in the U.S., you may be paying your taxes quaterly if you suddenly show large increases in taxable income via FINCen forms.

Well, that's my opinion on what's up and what's goin' down. Solving the ministries, Article 140 would only further confirm an imminent RV. If you're familiar with the game of golf, when having a casual game with friends and on the putting green, if you just miss a long putt and the ball ends up just inches from the hole, it's a "gimme" (meaning that there's no need to actually knock it in, you just pick up the ball and take the stroke - your friends believe that there's NO WAY you'd miss from that close!).

I think you are right on, fnbplanet. Good post.

And let's face it: If you are a politician, a politician in any party, you have to take advantage of this opportunity or you would be a fool. And you had better know the outcome and confident that every detail is in place. Look what happened to Bush when he landed on the aircraft carrier and and called "Mission Accomplished." I don't think any politician would make a major mistake like that again. We are in good shape.

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I won't say I'm excited, more like ECSTATIC!!! I'm meeting with my trustee tomorrow, not because of this news, but because we believe it to be very, very, close to an RV. We are making final preparations for "cashing in," holding back, and investments for the long term. Yes, sir! ECSTATIC, ECSTATIC, ECSTATIC!! Wooo, wooo!

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I won't say I'm excited, more like ECSTATIC!!! I'm meeting with my trustee tomorrow, not because of this news, but because we believe it to be very, very, close to an RV. We are making final preparations for "cashing in," holding back, and investments for the long term. Yes, sir! ECSTATIC, ECSTATIC, ECSTATIC!! Wooo, wooo!

+1 just for sharing all that excitement or ECSTATIC! hehehe

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