Maybe you missed this...

[Tr2]

Obama has finally formally declared an end to "war" operations in Iraq and a withdraw of occupying forces.

IMF will not sanction world trade of currency from a country which is occupied by foreign forces.

Iraq Dinar will begin to trade on the world market immediately after the troops leave their soil. The formal withdraw date has now been written in stone as 12/31/2011.

Remaining training forces are irrelevant to IMF as long as a formal withdraw of combat forces has been declared ( as of yesterday) and obliged.

Happy New Year.

[jetphyxr]

Perhaps that is what the Biden visit may solve. I'm sure there's a loophole somewhere...if not maybe they'll create one.

[usndiver]

Obama has finally formally declared an end to "war" operations in Iraq and a withdraw of occupying forces.

IMF will not sanction world trade of currency from a country which is occupied by foreign forces.

Iraq Dinar will begin to trade on the world market immediately after the troops leave their soil. The formal withdraw date has now been written in stone as 12/31/2011.

Remaining training forces are irrelevant to IMF as long as a formal withdraw of combat forces has been declared ( as of yesterday) and obliged.

Happy New Year.

Can you provide chapter and verse in reference to this claim?

Thanks

[FlyHi]

Sauce and links?? Hmmm BBQ time...

[sweetness34]

I thought he already said that all combat troops were already out of Iraq a few months ago???? since the troops that are here now can't do anything without Iraqi permission

[Carrello]

Thank you for the post, The information you provided regarding IMF restrictions is interesting.

Just one note: George Bush negotiated this date of withdrawal. General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker actually did the face-to-face negotiations with Iraq. This date is not new. And yes, combat troops have been removed. That is why there are only 45,000 troops there currently, one-third the amount in Afghanistan.

I hope few people missed the news yesterday, as it had great discussion.

[John in Kuwait]

Obama has finally formally declared an end to "war" operations in Iraq and a withdraw of occupying forces.

IMF will not sanction world trade of currency from a country which is occupied by foreign forces.

Iraq Dinar will begin to trade on the world market immediately after the troops leave their soil. The formal withdraw date has now been written in stone as 12/31/2011.

Remaining training forces are irrelevant to IMF as long as a formal withdraw of combat forces has been declared ( as of yesterday) and obliged.

Happy New Year.

That may be correct information, but we are not "occupying" Iraq. Haven't for some time, since the formed their government.

If you want a good example of an army of occupation just look at France from 1940-1944.

[429]

IMF will not sanction world trade of currency from a country which is occupied by foreign forces.

Is that like how the US had to quit "Occupying" Germany after World War II? Or how the US Military had to get out of Japan after 1945 so that that country could have a tradable world currency?

Seems like the US still has lots of troops in Germany and the Deutsche mark did fine and then morphed into the Euro. I was stationed in Japan when the Yen devalued so that there would be better parity with the US dollar. Still lots of US troops there.

Just sayin'....

[umbertino]

[Tr2]

Clearly some of you understand very little about military operations and how they begin and end.

Yes..as Obama states:

"As of 1-1-2012 we begin a new relationship with Iraq...one between two sovereign nations."

The U.S. has and will hold until JAN 1, the the right to extend and/or continue war operations in the country of Iraq. A country that we currently occupy until we say otherwise.

Regardless of when that date was first negotiated, Obama states that WE have decided to uphold that date.

As the occupying force in Iraq we make the decision whether to keep our deadline or extend.

Obama previously declared an end to "combat" operations in Iraq not "war" operations....big differences there

As we handed over power to the new Iraqi military we relinquished our combat responsibilities and agreed to act with Iraqi authority during late stage transition.

As the occupying force we have maintained the right and ability to at any time take back that full authority if it had become necessary.

As of Jan 1 we have been told by the Commander and Chief that we will no longer occupy Iraq and will instead formally recognize Iraq as a sovereign nation with all due respects.

Any actions taken by U.S. troops in Iraq beyond Jan. 1 would require a new declaration of war by congress or a new presidential order.

As of Jan 1, the President commits that the current Presidential order to occupy Iraq will formally expire.

As I said long ago...

Then and only then will Iraq dinar be formally recognized as a currency of a sovereign nation and invited to trade on the world market.

I expect to see it trading in Jan....RV or not.

[few24u]

Clearly some of you understand very little about military operations and how they begin and end.

Yes..as Obama states:

"As of 1-1-2012 we begin a new relationship with Iraq...one between two sovereign nations."

The U.S. has and will hold until JAN 1, the the right to extend and/or continue war operations in the country of Iraq. A country that we currently occupy until we say otherwise.

Regardless of when that date was first negotiated, Obama states that WE have decided to uphold that date.

As the occupying force in Iraq we make the decision whether to keep our deadline or extend.

Obama previously declared an end to "combat" operations in Iraq not "war" operations....big differences there

As we handed over power to the new Iraqi military we relinquished our combat responsibilities and agreed to act with Iraqi authority during late stage transition.

As the occupying force we have maintained the right and ability to at any time take back that full authority if it had become necessary.

As of Jan 1 we have been told by the Commander and Chief that we will no longer occupy Iraq and will instead formally recognize Iraq as a sovereign nation with all due respects.

Any actions taken by U.S. troops in Iraq beyond Jan. 1 would require a new declaration of war by congress or a new presidential order.

As of Jan 1, the President commits that the current Presidential order to occupy Iraq will formally expire.

As I said long ago...

Then and only then will Iraq dinar be formally recognized as a currency of a sovereign nation and invited to trade on the world market.

I expect to see it trading in Jan....RV or not.

Mahalos Tr2!

[zigmeister]

Clearly some of you understand very little about military operations and how they begin and end.

Yes..as Obama states:

"As of 1-1-2012 we begin a new relationship with Iraq...one between two sovereign nations."

The U.S. has and will hold until JAN 1, the the right to extend and/or continue war operations in the country of Iraq. A country that we currently occupy until we say otherwise.

Regardless of when that date was first negotiated, Obama states that WE have decided to uphold that date.

As the occupying force in Iraq we make the decision whether to keep our deadline or extend.

Obama previously declared an end to "combat" operations in Iraq not "war" operations....big differences there

As we handed over power to the new Iraqi military we relinquished our combat responsibilities and agreed to act with Iraqi authority during late stage transition.

As the occupying force we have maintained the right and ability to at any time take back that full authority if it had become necessary.

As of Jan 1 we have been told by the Commander and Chief that we will no longer occupy Iraq and will instead formally recognize Iraq as a sovereign nation with all due respects.

Any actions taken by U.S. troops in Iraq beyond Jan. 1 would require a new declaration of war by congress or a new presidential order.

As of Jan 1, the President commits that the current Presidential order to occupy Iraq will formally expire.

As I said long ago...

Then and only then will Iraq dinar be formally recognized as a currency of a sovereign nation and invited to trade on the world market.

I expect to see it trading in Jan....RV or not.

I have a question for you. We get out, Syria being the next target borders on Iraq, couldn't they ask Iraq to come back in to protect borders between the two countries?

[MovieMaker]

Thank you for sharing. MUCH appreciated. Interesting thread.