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I personally think the whole subject has been a distraction for The White House since he has been in office, and I'm hoping this will now be put out to pasture and

we can get on with the task of fixing our economy and our Great Nation. It will take many Presidents to fix this mess as it took many to create it. There is no magic bullet.

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Personally, I know Chicago style of politics and business. I think this man is a crooked as a snake and I would not beleive a word he said. He has proven himself to be a lying sack of poo.

Let's see, a 'lying sack of poo' compared to, say Rush Limbaugh or maybe Bush/Chaney who lied to us about the the real reasons we invaded Iraq? Give me a freakin' break. Racism is alive and well here in America!

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Soldiering4U, I had the same question; How did a birth certificate printed in 1961 end up having the name Barack Hussein Obama on it, when he did not have that name until he was a young adult? His name was Berry Santoro until he changed it to Barack Hussein Obama. If you have a real birth certificate printed when you were born, it has your real name on it, not a name you've only recently changed. Most of you will only believe what you want, but there are serious problems here that need addressing.

Maverick

Excellent point Soldiering4U!!! Anyone who will question the validity of this obviously fake document will be considered crazy. So, I guess I am crazy.

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Geez...this is getting ridiculous

What will it take for people to let this go??? No matter what proof is presented, people will dispute it. Aside from video footage of his birth from the hospital with the state flag of Hawaii billowing in the background, I dont see people letting it go...

Meanwhile more pressing issues go unnoticed.

If you care so much about getting him out of office, hit the campaign trail. Otherwise, move on

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To dispel any doubt what so ever I would need some forensics done on this "new" document! My original birth certificate and others I have seen from Hawaii and elsewhere in the country from my time 1953 through 1961, at least, where done on a thick black corbon copy looking paper.

The "carbon copy" look of the birth certificates from that far back 1953-1961 are quite aged and look stained by years of chemical changes of the "ink" through the paper, much like old photo prints from back then have "yellowed" by chemical changes.

Based on the look of Obamas certificate, the paper stock, the hatched clean and modern look of the background, it still does not seem to fit the time frame and the look of other certificates from that era.

So at this point I call it bogus! Modern forensics could tell us the age and composition of the paper and the age and chemistry of the ink from the original document.

I would gladly submit my original certificate for comparison as I have nothing but generations of native born family clear back to Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman! I know my certificate would stand up to nano level examination!!!! wink.gif

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Perhaps this post will put an end to the Birthers speculation that President Obama was born in US. Im sure that there are those who will contend that this is a fake. Im not posting for the validity of the document......just the fact that it has been released. I doube seriously he would release a fradulent document. just saying!

link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110427/ts_yblog_theticket/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate

Obama needs better advisors. He let this go on way too long. It has cost him some support no matter where he was born.

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To dispel any doubt what so ever I would need some forensics done on this "new" document! My original birth certificate and others I have seen from Hawaii and elsewhere in the country from my time 1953 through 1961, at least, where done on a thick black corbon copy looking paper.

The "carbon copy" look of the birth certificates from that far back 1953-1961 are quite aged and look stained by years of chemical changes of the "ink" through the paper, much like old photo prints from back then have "yellowed" by chemical changes.

Based on the look of Obamas certificate, the paper stock, the hatched clean and modern look of the background, it still does not seem to fit the time frame and the look of other certificates from that era.

So at this point I call it bogus! Modern forensics could tell us the age and composition of the paper and the age and chemistry of the ink from the original document.

I would gladly submit my original certificate for comparison as I have nothing but generations of native born family clear back to Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman! I know my certificate would stand up to nano level examination!!!! wink.gif

Good observations, but does your birth certificate have an embossed state seal to authenticate the document like mine? I don't

see one on this document either. I had to have a copy showing the state seal "embossed on the document" to be considered genuine

and therefore acceptable for application for a U.S. passport. I don't speak for the Passport folks, so ask them for the requirements.

NMGarand

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No kidding!!

I'll defer to Mark Twain: “It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.”

Last comment for me in this thread.

Ts

I believe in the RV; I don't believe in the cult.

Nice, I'm a Clemmins fan myself. Also said, "Never argue with and idiot", "He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience".

Ever wonder why we even bother?

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You mean that's it. You take it at face value. I see so many discrepancies in the copy of the birth certificate still. As Trump said, it will be checked out. Let the experts tell us. If found to be a false document, would you cater to a President that sets the example of being a lyer to our children? mad.gif

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yea jazz looks like you brought coffee to a tea party...... JUST SAYIN'

Opened a can of worms heh? check out this link: http://www.mikefrancesa.com/wordpress/?p=973. As a physician I do know there is validity to the long form birth certificate. Anything is possible in this day and age of photo shop and internet so I guess we will just have to wait.. heard that before? Go RV!!!

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It doesnt matter. He is not the person that should be our president.

If you didnt see the time where he didnt salute when the national anthem was played (even Hillarious Clinton saluted) because 'it offends others" is not qualified to be MY president, or I would think ANYONE that has served this country and a total slap in the face of the mothers whose sons never came home alive.

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It doesnt matter. He is not the person that should be our president.

If you didnt see the time where he didnt salute when the national anthem was played (even Hillarious Clinton saluted) because 'it offends others" is not qualified to be MY president, or I would think ANYONE that has served this country and a total slap in the face of the mothers whose sons never came home alive.

More misinformation.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

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The only people this will NOT convince are those who do not WISH to be convinced ... they will believe what they believe no matter what "proof" is offered. It will NEVER be sufficient. So, why bother. They complain about the president but won't get out and do anything proactive about making a difference in the next election. They will just keep complaining and grabbing another brew and feeling hard done by as if they are the only ones being abused by the system. Good Grief Charlie Brown ... grow up already!

smee2

I agree that this wont convince some people as one's perception is reality to them. My perception doesn't matter, as I believe Obama is just a little puppet in the big show. I do believe that we need to continue to pray for him, his staff, and all our leadership for that matter regardless of what our political beliefs are. Prayers are what is holding this country together right now.

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Is it a fake???Probably but at this point the damage had been done.Remember the campaign speeches about TRANSPARANCY.....please what a joke.O has cost this country something it may never get back.Its respect in the world community.This man should be impeached not because of the birth certificate thing.But because of the lousy job he has done to date.If you or i performed as poorly on the job we would be fired.All he dose is blame everyone else again and again.I'm sorry but you are steering the ship pal.The sooner he is gone the better.

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It's more than funny.....makes me wonder if I should have posted it at all. peace

It's all good friend. There's a lot of people that need to talk these days. Think about it. You made it happen! Now, if we all agreed, what fun would that be? I for 1 thank you for getting it started. Like you said, PEACE! See you on my Yacht. RSVP. You like your Martini dry, or with a slight splash of lime? Slay.

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It is a Fake it does not have the Race of the Child

can someone help me verify George Bush 1& 2's birth certificate?

oh wait, all the racist uncle-brothers and sister-mamas never cared about all of the past presidents bith certificates.....I wonder why that was........... interracial Man in the white house maybe?

would all racist prefer that he never had a black dad and white mom were the case? maybe if his name was Steve or Bob and he had a last name of Smith or Corruthers

yeah, you are a racist if you never called for your Daddy Bush's birth verification............. just because he looks like the majority does not mean he's American-who is this punk and how does anyone know where he comes from?

if Mccain had won the election would there even be a birther movement by racist so-called christians in this country?

all Mr. Obama did was really expose the hate and anger against black people in this country..............racism is alive and well and that monster is growing and showing it's ugly face everyday!

Donald Trump....let's verify your Mob ties to your casinos and hotels!...you sorry punk...you ain't shot without your money!

to all racist people: Mr. Obama will not win the next election and if the tea party and the birthers leave and not try this crap with the next president, then I have proven my point about this issue was purely about race and that's all!

I put my dinar millions on that!

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