rtrusty Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Sunday, April 10, 2011 BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA 1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama. This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981. The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone. Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level. This is what we know about Ludwig: In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC. On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US. Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings. Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924: Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008 Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None Place of Birth: France, Ammersville. [link to www.ellisisland.org] First Name: Jean P. Last Name: Ludwig Ethnicity: France Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C. Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924 Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Leviathan Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France Manifest Line Number: 0008 U.S. Social Security Death Index Name: Jean Ludwig Birth Date: 17 February 1890 Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI) Death Date: June 1981 Estimated Age at Death: 91 Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM. FOR MORE GO HERE ANDDONT FORGET TO BUMP FOR TRUMP! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyc xtreme Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 who cares 4 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
investorman Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 nyc...anyone who is interested in the truth. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desimo Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 If in fact Obama's SS# is the same as Ludwig someone has some explaining to do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbdolphins Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Too late now...the damage is done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaydadea Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 who cares I care!! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRERUMPH Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 I care!! you would !!!!!!!!!!!!!! which shows what kind of character you possess 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPSprayduster Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 There are some who thrive on BS. I am sure when donald trump finds something you all will be the first to know. Nobody cares only to have a job, provide for the family and have roof over our heads. There are some who only spend there time trying to find something that hold water. The birthers tried FAILED, Donald Trump who is running for president is trying to woo the Tea Parth and he will fail too. There is always someone who is looking for something and never finds it so they will just make up a story. 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRERUMPH Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Sunday, April 10, 2011 BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA 1890 SS NUMBER TRACED TO JOHN PAUL LUDWIG This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama. This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981. The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone. Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level. This is what we know about Ludwig: In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC. On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US. Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings. Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924: Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008 Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None Place of Birth: France, Ammersville. [link to www.ellisisland.org] First Name: Jean P. Last Name: Ludwig Ethnicity: France Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C. Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924 Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Leviathan Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France Manifest Line Number: 0008 U.S. Social Security Death Index Name: Jean Ludwig Birth Date: 17 February 1890 Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI) Death Date: June 1981 Estimated Age at Death: 91 Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM. FOR MORE GO HERE ANDDONT FORGET TO BUMP FOR TRUMP! so when are you people is going to leave well enough alone? anything can be fabricated in and around the net!!!!!!!!!! face fact the man is here to stay and whenever you run for a public or private office there is an extensive back ground because you will have a security cleareance because you are the leader of th US. So can you people plzz stop with the birth certificate thing plzzzzzzz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! its over and done with........ GO RV and yeah lets say Trump is junk!!!!!!!!! 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nointel Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) ajskj will be here shortly to debunk this info for you all. if he is a citizen or not the point is moot. we can debate this until our heads explode. us average citizens can't do anything about his citenzship. we had an election and like it or not he apparently won. Edited April 11, 2011 by nointel 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmstreet61 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 i have said it before....I am an Aussie citizen, so I cannot vote for an American president...but oh boy...if i could....wow...Donny Trump is #1!!!!!! Go the Don! please...here in Australia, voting is compulsory....i know it's voluntary in USA...but PLEASE...all of you Americans.......VOTE!!!! get your country back into shape, with a good business head at the helm. get your constitution back into shape by repealing that nasty tax ammendment. Go Go GO USA!!! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimmy90 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Too late now...the damage is done. impeach him n undo all hus wrongs 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robear Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Obama's a fraud and an admitted hater of the USA. HE NEEDS TO GO NOW. Congress needs to get some gonads and impeach him before he finishes the job of destroying our democracy. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimmy90 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 ajskj will be here shortly to debunk this info for you all. if he is a citizen or not the point is moot. we can debate this until our heads explode. us average citizens can't do anything about his citenzship. we had an election and like it or not he apparently won. he won under false pretence dont you understand that?or do schools now days teach you people to not care about your country? this is your country they are just human we are equal obama is a lll Obama's a fraud and an admitted hater of the USA. HE NEEDS TO GO NOW. Congress needs to get some gonads and impeach him before he finishes the job of destroying our democracy. write yur congressman today if possible 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaminjimmy90 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 so when are you people is going to leave well enough alone? anything can be fabricated in and around the net!!!!!!!!!! face fact the man is here to stay and whenever you run for a public or private office there is an extensive back ground because you will have a security cleareance because you are the leader of th US. So can you people plzz stop with the birth certificate thing plzzzzzzz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! its over and done with........ GO RV and yeah lets say Trump is junk!!!!!!!!! wow people like you is why we have no rights just give up patsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajskj Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 More Orly Taitz lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFlorida Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Most of us believe some sort of conspiracy took place here with the presidency of the United States. The question is what is anyone doing about it, probably after Obama's term in office is when the American people will find out the real truth. What a shame to be in this situation in America, just the name did not seem right and don't forget a zebra never loses it stripes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nointel Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) he won under false pretence dont you understand that?or do schools now days teach you people to not care about your country? this is your country they are just human we are equal obama is a lll understand it or not, obama is just a puppet in this whole thing. he was placed there by the ones with the real power. i'm not naive to what's going on. and i graduated HS almost 35 years ago when we were still taught to care about our country, respect, discipline, and we knew if we didn't behave the teachers still had the right to break out the paddle and swat your a** in front of everyone. and they weren't afraid to do it because they weren't afraid of being accused of abuse and threatened by the students and parents with a lawsuit. so i don't want to hear about not caring about my country. i voted and it wasn't for obama. Edited April 11, 2011 by nointel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzworth Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) You realize that there are 9 digitis in a SSN... That means there are 1 billion combinations. There's roughly 320 Million US citizens. They live and they die all the time. Has it occurred to anyone that perhaps more than 1 billion people have been citizens of the US in the last 235 years? That means that some numbers may be recycled onto future generations. It's just math, dude. Edited April 11, 2011 by Lonzworth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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