NEW TREASURY RULES ILLEGAL!

[Dr Alan]

WARNING!!! DO NOT CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINKS!! PUMPER ALERT!!! NEWBIE ROBERT IS A POSER!

i'm pretty sure wesley is out and doing what he wants too. check out his latest films at google... i'll pay what i have to but only what I HAVE TOO and i'm not paying anything without a fight... you can be a sheep if you want to. it's your right, and so is what i want to do.

i am sorry to tell you this fellow dinar adventurer but THE FED is a private corporation. It originally came into prominence to loan Woodrow Wilson's GO money after the war. read his own quote about his circumstances...

PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON: "A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men". (Just before he died, Wilson is reported to have stated to friends that he had been "deceived" and that "I have betrayed my Country". He referred to the Federal Reserve Act passed during his Presidency.)

Knowing history like I do, I hope old Woodrow is really really hot right now!

[Lilalbertus]

Pay your income taxes (35%) or you will eventually get caught.....the penalties and interest will be staggering in addition to possible jail time. Why bother, if you really don't like the law of the land, renounce your citizenship, move to another country where you think it is better and have a nice day.

Even if you do that, you stil have to be citizen of the country for 5 years or they can still nail you with tax evasion.

[Kaduku]

That would be a Bill of Attainder, but I don't think they are targeting a group for taxation, they are restricting the parameters of transfering foreign funds. Although i believe that their intention is to receive full taxation upon exchange of currency.

I agree with you 100% and then some.... Obama wants MORE of our investment, so he can give it to whomever he wants. THAT'S PLAIN SOCIALISM IN MY EYES!!! and liberals/idiots voted for this INCOMPETENT CORRUPTED STUPID IDIOT.

[D-BUNK]

I agree with you 100% and then some.... Obama wants MORE of our investment, so he can give it to whomever he wants. THAT'S PLAIN SOCIALISM IN MY EYES!!! and liberals/idiots voted for this INCOMPETENT CORRUPTED STUPID IDIOT.

sigh...really? really?

Let me get this straight...

Without buying into any of the "Right vs. Left" B.S.

It has been long standing that we pay taxes in this country. Since the 1930's or so- and while it's arguable whether we should have them- it has been law since well before you were born and it ain't changing anytime soon.

You've participated in this system your whole life. You've benefited from it (in the form of Public School, Milk that is fresh, Highways, Firemen- etc. etc.).

Now. There is a great chance that you have taken anywhere from $200-$1000 and turned it into $600,000 to $3,000,000,000 for doing little more than BELIEVING in something and you have the audacity to complain about paying your taxes?

What a bunch of spoiled little brats.

It's not the Right or the Left that will bring about the downfall of America.

It's GREED.

Check yourself.

[Drunken Irish]

Do you really think the government cares about legality? They just passed the most expensive piece of legislation ever written without ever reading the 2600 page bill. These people wipe their asses with the constitution everyday. This country needs a bloody uprising. Thomas Jefferson is turning over in his grave. We fear our gov't when they should fear us!

[FishmanTx]

I keep seeing the number 35% tax on capital gains (and a currency exchange profit IS a capital gain!). That number is NOT true for everyone!

Refer to the chart on this wiki link, it's the same as in the tax law if you should care to dig it up. A capital gains tax rate is determined by the NORMAL rate you are CURRENTLY taxed at and HOW LONG you held the currency or investment.

Capital Gains Tax in the US - Wiki

Neil

[Ore]

I will gladly pay like 50% in taxes if I knew this thing would RV at over $3

Right now and for awhile I am stuck with a bunch of toliet paper.

Same here. As long as we get $1-$1.5 per dinar after taxes, its all good ......wishful thinking, I know

I keep seeing the number 35% tax on capital gains (and a currency exchange profit IS a capital gain!). That number is NOT true for everyone!

Refer to the chart on this wiki link, it's the same as in the tax law if you should care to dig it up. A capital gains tax rate is determined by the NORMAL rate you are CURRENTLY taxed at and HOW LONG you held the currency or investment.

Capital Gains Tax in the US - Wiki

Neil

Capital Gain Tax is 15%, if the investment was held for over 2 year, and it can be proven.

Short Term gains/profits, less than 2 years, qualify as Income Tax (35%). And that includes profits derived from currency investments.

[TimS]

I keep seeing the number 35% tax on capital gains (and a currency exchange profit IS a capital gain!). That number is NOT true for everyone!

Refer to the chart on this wiki link, it's the same as in the tax law if you should care to dig it up. A capital gains tax rate is determined by the NORMAL rate you are CURRENTLY taxed at and HOW LONG you held the currency or investment.

Capital Gains Tax in the US - Wiki

Neil

This speculation is NOT a capital gains transaction.....it's ordinary income. You need to read some of the old tax ramifications that explain this reasoning. But no matter what you read....see your own tax attorney and accountant before you do anything. Never take some one else's word.

[Lilalbertus]

So many people complain about blood money made off brave troops, troops that can't even own a fraction of the dinar and that sickens me more than anything. This has nothing to do with liberals or conserves but a bunch of greedy people whining over taxes. You have to pay taxes on lottery money if you win. Republican or Democrat you not going to get what you personally want anyway no matter whose in office.

So many people complain about blood money made off brave troops, troops that can't even own a fraction of the dinar and that sickens me more than anything. This has nothing to do with liberals or conserves but a bunch of greedy people whining over taxes. You have to pay taxes on lottery money if you win. Republican or Democrat you not going to get what you personally want anyway no matter whose in office.

[Kenneth]

Pay your income taxes (35%) or you will eventually get caught.....the penalties and interest will be staggering in addition to possible jail time. Why bother, if you really don't like the law of the land, renounce your citizenship, move to another country where you think it is better and have a nice day.

Or just vote you tax and spend democrats out of office and vote Tea Party; I'll personally will cash some in and wait and see what happens in 2012. All you guys are going to rush to cash in your dinar to what? A falling dollar; or cash in enough to stock up on food, water, ammo and enough to pay off debts/taxes.

Tea Party wants to get rid of the IRS.

I will sit on my Dinar until 2012 when we can get all of these corrupt politicians out of office. Iraq dollar will last longer than the US dollar, leaving your Dinar buried in the back yard til 2012 is your best bet.

By the way the only people who tell other people to pay their taxes have trouble paying there own. http://beforeitsnews.com/story/199/658/Obama_Administration_Full_of_Tax_Cheats,_Socialists,_and_Radicals.html

I looked again and I couldn't find no 35% tax in the constitution, but most people like you don't like the constitution.

- BANK OF AMERICA: In 2009, Bank of America didn’t pay a single penny in federal income taxes, exploiting the tax code so as to avoid paying its fair share. “Oh, yeah, this happens all the time,” said Robert Willens, a tax accounting expert interviewed by McClatchy. “If you go out and try to make money and you don’t do it, why should the government pay you for your losses?” asked Bob McIntyre of Citizens for Tax Justice. The same year, the mega-bank’s top executives received pay “ranging from $6 million to nearly $30 million.”

- BOEING: Despite receiving billions of dollars from the federal government every single year in taxpayer subsidies from the U.S. government, Boeing didn’t “pay a dime of U.S. federal corporate income taxes” between 2008 and 2010.

- CITIGROUP: Citigroup’s deferred income taxes for the third quarter of 2010 amounted to a grand total of $0.00. At the same time, Citigroup has continued to pay its staff lavishly. “John Havens, the head of Citigroup’s investment bank, is expected to be the bank’s highest paid executive for the second year in a row, with a compensation package worth $9.5 million.”

- EXXON-MOBIL: The oil giant uses offshore subsidiaries in the Caribbean to avoid paying taxes in the United States. Although Exxon-Mobil paid $15 billion in taxes in 2009, not a penny of those taxes went to the American Treasury. This was the same year that the company overtook Wal-Mart in the Fortune 500. Meanwhile the total compensation of Exxon-Mobil’s CEO the same year was over $29,000,000.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2011/02/27/time-to-target-the-corporate-tax-cheats/

[Thor363]

The problem is folks we have ever since 1871, have a rouge de-facto corporate government called the United States! The Country we were all told about and fell in love with is the De-Jure Republic that was not convene after the Civil War. For more information go Here!

Hit 'em bro! Wake these people up. They've been asleep too long! Yeah I'm Canadian born, but I wish all people had understanding, and would take the time to read about what happened and how America got to this screwed up socialistic state!

Go ahead peeps, throw the red. It'll prove how socialist you are....otherwise, hit those links and understand what happened to make the Corporation of the United States of America.

[no left angles]

We were told all along that the tax would be 35%, but then greed sets in and the lawyers advise. People, it is not worth your angst. President George W. Bush said the Iraq war would not cost the US anything. What do you think he was talking about. Let's be proud. Forget that it is Obama. He is out in 2 years. Don't let greed steal any of the joy of what is coming. Pay up.

r u serious?

dont drink the kool-aide

[DarkShinobi76]

All this he said - she said is really getting to be toooooo much....unless you are going to base your continued investment in the IQD on information you know absolutely to be fact. You will be constssntly blaming everyone when it dosen't RV when you want it there are other options. My suggestion, forget about what she said the tax would be or what he thought it should be. Set aside somewhare aroung 31% after cash in in a secure account. When uncle sam say's he needs some money, go to your account you have for taxes and give him his money. Unless you really want a up-close and personal relationship with Wesley Snipes. Just sayin

LOL; "up-close and personal relationship with Wesley Snipes"... I agree though, you all should just pay your taxes and move on from there... Don't be greedy, pay them and build yourself up once you do... Look at it this way, why risk losing it all(your money and/or freedom) by not paying your taxes, when you can just surrender a portion of it and remain out of jail with most of your money(which you can use to invest into solid investments, re-structure yourself financially when it comes to how the IRS sees you and regain what you've had to pay out in taxes)...

Seriously, I prefer to pay them and go from there... If you have solid, trustworthy professionals in the taxation arena working for you before the RI/RV, then by all means utilize them, but if you don't it's not the end of the world, you can always hire them once you've paid Uncle Sam and get re-structured accordingly after the RI/RV... So just don't become a fish with a bull's eye on it that's stuck in a barrel; just saying...

[Spoolin]

That new UST directive is NOT law, which means, nothing was passed through congress. So why do we even have to listen to what the UST DIRECTIVE states?

Edited March 10, 2011 by Spoolin

[butkus51]

Spoolin, do not think the cutie pie in the picture with the hat is the one talking. The UST is not directed at us. It is directed at the Dinar Traders, and as such, there is no choice. Gosh, won't it be great when all this site has to talk about is tax implications, post RV, of course. It will have an impact....Shoot, Democrats will become Republicans and there will be guys on golf courses, putting down their quart of beer before they take each shot. And, are you ready....they will be wearing collarless shirts.

Detroitjazzman - So you are the guy that is living in Detroit.

[jrcrna]

PAY UP?? are you crazy?! do you really think your "tax dollar" is going to the gov.? no my friend, you are mistaken. it is going right into the FED. the IRS is the FED"S collection agent. I would totally agree with you if I thought the actual GO would see a dime of this money but that is just not the case. this is money is going to go to paying down our "national debt", you know, the interest the FED has been charging us for a century just for printing up and distribiting our own currency. this has nothing to do with Obama or any political personage. this is BEN Bernake and his cronies. so pay up??? i don't think so, not if i don't have to. i'm not giving one cent of my blessing to make the Rothchild's babies any richer that they already are. I'd just as soon donate my money to worthy charities and help gifted chilrden etc, thank you very much. as if the FED had ANYTHING to do with the gov't. ha!

well said, read The Creature from Jeckyll Island, a second look at the federal reserve. It describes the origin of the federal reserve, omg it will blow your mind!! there is nothing federal about it!! jr

[Cricket]

become sovereign, stand with the dejure government

[roux]

Go get a lawyer's legal opinion and post it with refetrences. Until then, stop carrying on because this seems to step on your toes. Most of us are thankful for the blessings twe believe the rv will bring

[emmet]

I am also one that does not want to pay a dime to the IRS, but the last time I took a government class in college, the IRS is part of the GOV and the FED is a genaric term for the GOV. The IRS takes money from the citizens and corporations and uses it to pay the bills of the GOV regardless if it for the Defense Dept. , the Agriculture Depart. , the highway Administration, and countless other GOV Agencies. Oh, and let's not forget money to pay down the Governments National Debt.

I hope this helps. Good Luck

You better go back to school. There are way to many facts out there telling you who the IRS is and who the Fed is and where the income tax really goes and it not where you say. Just read the Grace Commission (google it) report to a man by the name of Ronald Reagan when he was president. (1984)

"If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries

and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England

are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these

to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread,

we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers

to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers."

~ Thomas Jefferson

[sandyf]

That new UST directive is NOT law, which means, nothing was passed through congress. So why do we even have to listen to what the UST DIRECTIVE states?

Because the traders and bankers hold the dollars. If you want the dollars you have to play to their rules.

You could wait for a legal challenge but I suspect the cash-in window will be closed by then.

[emmet]

yes sir, and the cash in window is veryyyyyyyyyyyy big concern. I hope we have more than 90 days to cash in.

"If we run such [government] debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries

and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England

are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these

to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread,

we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers

to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-suffers."

~ Thomas Jefferson