Chill out. Please. :)

[TonyR]

What I am about to say may make a few people mad. It's not intended to start an argument. Please keep this thread as civil as possible - or I will request it to be closed. We're all adults here, and we should act like it when we post in threads.

Okay so... I'm gong to be "That guy"..

Over the last few days tempers have been high. People have been pumping the RV/Dinar, and some have been knocking it down. When the RV does not happen everyone gets mad. Extremely mad. Not at the situation, but the fact a "Guru" said we would RV on Day "X" at "X"o-clock. We get pissed that they lied and or were just plain wrong. First off, you need to sit back and think about why you're pissed.Then you need to sit back and think about how you should be pissed at yourself for listening to the opinion of someone you have never met before. Losing sleep over it, and practically having a heart attack waiting for their prediction to come true.

Not a single person on this site can say when the RV will happen - nor can they tell you the rate. Some people say the RV will happen today. Some say tomorrow. When that does not happen, someone will say Thursday. That wont happen, someone will say Friday. It's a vicious circle that won't end until Iraq decides to get off their butts and RV. If you take anything written in the Rumors section (Key word... Rumor) with anything more than a grain of salt. Don't get pissed at who made the prediction. Get pissed you listened to a rumor. There is a reason your parents raised you to not start rumors and gossip. It's because 99.8% of the time - the rumor is just that... a rumor.

If you are going to listen to the rumors - do yourself a favor. Check it out for yourself. If someone says "Today Maliki said we will RV at $20.71" do some research. The internet is a wonderful place if you didn't know.

One person will not hear that info before the news stations in Iraq here it. So here are a few links to some news sources you can check up with:

http://english.aljazeera.net/

http://www.ninanews.com/english/index.asp

http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/

http://www.albaghdadia.com

http://aawsat.com

http://www.elaph.com

"But Tony...some of those sites are in Arabic... I can't read it"

Well if you didn't know, there is a thing called a "Translator". It's a great invention used to translate pages or text from one language to another.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/

http://translate.google.com/

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

To those of you who are constantly knocking down the Dinar, or posting that it won't RV...comon'. Do you really not have anything better to do than troll the site? If you didn't know...the Dinar has actually risen on the Forex Market in the last few days. Slowly of course...but it is rising. Many of you bash Jim Crammer or CNBC in general for doing a report on the Dinar. Obviously CNBC must be doing something right in order for them to stay on air as long as they have. If you can do so much better, by all means...submit your resume to CNBC and watch what happens. If CNBC does the Iraqi Dinar story under false pretense and it turns out to be a scam, they would be in a lot of hot water. Do you really think they want to risk it?

So you say the media and government have not announced the Iraqi Dinar investment, so it must be fake...right? .....Wrong. Look at it this way, if the US Government announced the great Iraqi Dinar investment right now, there would be millions of US citizens buying the dinar. Once the RV happens the US would be so over inundated with the money being exchanged it would cause chaos. You get mugged now for having $100 in your wallet. What happens when you are carrying a stack of Dinar worth $100,000? There would be crime like no tomorrow. So instead, the decide to keep it under wraps, and for the people who do know about it - they let it be.

"But Tony...the Iraqi Government will just re-dominate their money and we'll lose our dinar!" False. If/When a RD occurs, our Dinar will still be good. Once an RD happens, there will be a set amount of time to exchange your old Dinar in for a new Dinar. Once that period of time is up, then the old Dinar becomes obsolete. They already RD'd the old Sadam Dinar. Do you really think they told the people of Iraq "Sorry, your money is worthless...suck it up..ok?" Yeah...no. That wouldn't fly. The people would riot. They let them exchange the old Dinar in for new Dinar. So if you are going to start trolling... remember the facts first.

"Hi...I'm a toll.. LOP LOP LOP LOP LOL LOP" When the 0's are removed from the Dinar it will be the same as when the US Dollar had a LOP. Remember the $1000 bills? How about the $5000 bills? Yeah... they removed the zeros. But if you still hold a $1000 bill or $500 bill, it is still worth the written amount today. It's just probably one of the last bills around.

So yeah, from now on, just chill if an RV date is set and relax. Don't lose sleep. Don't freak. If an RV happens it happens. Losing sleep won't make the RV happen any faster. Look at it this way... Bob says we will RV tomorrow at 5AM EST. So you stay up all night after getting home from work. Wait till 5. It just so happens to RV at 5... but you still can't cash in until 9 when the banks open. All that time you stayed up you could have been sleeping and just found out about the RV when you woke up for work the next day. Just sayin....

So yeah, please don't flame me for this post. I just feel this site is ran by mature adults, and they allow us to be on the site. We should all show the site respect by acting like adults. So remember, do research and don't get pissed at a rumor.

Sorry to take up so much of your time... haha. I just had to get it off my chest.

Tony

[fatbob]

Thanks for the post.

[RhondaG]

Nice post Tony. We all need to take a chill pill and realize the people that are imparting their wisdom and info are doing their best and it will happen when it happens - on Iraqi Time!

[shaneelstar]

Dude, you might ought to go smoke a little something. You seem stressed out a bit. Or you could just stop logging on here for a day or two..

[BtrFuture4All]

EXCELLENT post, TonyR. Thanks !

[TBnhispower]

What I am about to say may make a few people mad. It's not intended to start an argument. Please keep this thread as civil as possible - or I will request it to be closed. We're all adults here, and we should act like it when we post in threads.

I agree with you to a point. However, when people, like TK, come in and make outlandish predictions that not even he himself could possible believe is true, it gets to be too much. I know that I don't have to read TK's posts, but the point is that we should have some say about not wanting these sights to become a complete joke. There are rumors and then there are people that just play this like a silly game. I have been hesitant to share this sight with a couple people because of these ridiculous, wayyyy off, predictions. This is a serious investment, and potentially life changing for most, so it seems to me that some of these repeated "rumors" need to be called to the table for the lies that they are. I'm just sharing my opinion here. God Bless and GO RV!

[curious80]

Thanks Tony, nicely said

"Don't worry, about a thing...every little thing, is going to be alright..."

--Bob Marley

[TonyR]

Dude, you might ought to go smoke a little something.

Dude... I stopped doing that a long time ago....

[pamela]

TonyR, THANK YOU!!

[BOOBOODOG]

3 thumbs up!

[Dinerry]

And another ice cube to it.....

Here's article. It looks like SUNDAY NOVEMBER 21st is when they begin negotiations to form a government.

> http://bit.ly/b6DF0M

[Officer151]

I know people have to chill out! These people you speak of must not have a clue what they are talking about? They just don't understand how serious of a matter this is. Thanks for setting us straight TONYR. Night Night!

Hey check out the post above. They are still forming a government!

Edited November 17, 2010 by Officer151

[rwharnden]

Nice post! Eye opening and refreshing! Thanks friend!

[pirateoflight]

Great post Tony. Thank you

[tyro]

Tony, your post is really well done. Adding the news and translation links was especially helpful. Thanks!

[deenar]

Ok, so don't get excited over bs intel. I get it. Actually, I got it over a year ago. All you newbies need to stay grounded. You will just wake up one day and BOOM! Rate change. No internet tool is going to tell you exactly when it will happen. Stop expecting someone to tell you when, or the rate. None of us has any control of, or knowledge of when it happens.

[quattro1]

DITTO! Well said!

[RicknSaudi]

Isn't it amazing that no matter what a persons intentions, there could ALWAYS be something useful to come out of a persons thoughts. Being stuck over here in a third world country (Saudi Arabia), I am limited on many of the articles and references posted on DV that are either in their original Arabic state (I don't speak or read Arabic), or translated through Google translate.

As many websites are blocked for me by the Saudi censors (including Google Translate), I have resigned myself to reading those translations if someone (and most do) post the translation text here or in chat. Cudo's to those that go through this extra trouble to ensure ALL of us are enlightened.

Now, thanks to TonyR and his thoughts here, I have discovered two translate sights (Bling and Babelfish) that ARE NOT censored! Furthermore, the "bit.ly" sites have always been blocked for me also. Now, thanks to the good timing of Dinerry, I was able to take his link, run it through one of TonyR's links (Bling in this case), and viola'. I am no longer encumbered by the Saudi censors.

Thanks for the post and follow up you guys....You opened up a new avenue of reading for me.

Now....Can you tell me the date and rate? :lol: JK

[JugDawg1]

I'm with ya on that Tony, just a little different path. One thing I've noticed is that some either do not read the whole post or they read what thay want into it. Blame him, blame her and all the while not stopping to think that it's me that makes the choices to believe or not, ME! Another thing is this guru crap. These guys aren't gurus. They're, for the most part good folks trying to help US idiots who either don't know or understand how to dig this stuff up and interpret it or they just don't have the time or they're just too lazy to do it themselves. Me, I'm one of the computer illiterate dumbies who can type a little and knows how to turn it on. Don't you guys get it. THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP! So what if they're not perfect. Are you? The only one I ever heard of got hung on a cross a looonnnggg time ago. CUDOS TO ALL OUR HELPING AMIGOS.

Now the last thing is what's the deal with everyone ripping each others throats out over these "gurus" from other sites. Both sides, GROW UP! What are ya 5 or 6 years old. My old man used to kick my ass for acting like that and rightfully so. Pro or con, it don't matter GROW UP. How do you react to your children acting like that. Some kid calls yours a jerk so you go kick his dad's butt? Learn people. Have fun. I've had more fun lately than I have in quite a while. I'm just as guilty as any of you but I try EVERY DAY to be better than I was yesterday.

That's it. Peace.

Oh and Tony, thanks for those links muchas gracias. You too Dinerry.

Edited November 17, 2010 by JugDawg1

[TonyR]

Isn't it amazing that no matter what a persons intentions, there could ALWAYS be something useful to come out of a persons thoughts. Being stuck over here in a third world country (Saudi Arabia), I am limited on many of the articles and references posted on DV that are either in their original Arabic state (I don't speak or read Arabic), or translated through Google translate.

As many websites are blocked for me by the Saudi censors (including Google Translate), I have resigned myself to reading those translations if someone (and most do) post the translation text here or in chat. Cudo's to those that go through this extra trouble to ensure ALL of us are enlightened.

Now, thanks to TonyR and his thoughts here, I have discovered two translate sights (Bling and Babelfish) that ARE NOT censored! Furthermore, the "bit.ly" sites have always been blocked for me also. Now, thanks to the good timing of Dinerry, I was able to take his link, run it through one of TonyR's links (Bling in this case), and viola'. I am no longer encumbered by the Saudi censors.

Thanks for the post and follow up you guys....You opened up a new avenue of reading for me.

Now....Can you tell me the date and rate? :lol: JK

Glad I was able to help. I never meant harm by the post. More just speaking my mind.

[SFMS]

Great post TonyR....

[BtrFuture4All]

I'm with ya on that Tony, just a little different path. One thing I've noticed is that some either do not read the whole post or they read what thay want into it. Blame him, blame her and all the while not stopping to think that it's me that makes the choices to believe or not, ME! Another thing is this guru crap. These guys aren't gurus. They're, for the most part good folks trying to help US idiots who either don't know or understand how to dig this stuff up and interpret it or they just don't have the time or they're just too lazy to do it themselves. Me, I'm one of the computer illiterate dumbies who can type a little and knows how to turn it on. Don't you guys get it. THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP! So what if they're not perfect. Are you? The only one I ever heard of got hung on a cross a looonnnggg time ago. CUDOS TO ALL OUR HELPING AMIGOS.

Now the last thing is what's the deal with everyone ripping each others throats out over these "gurus" from other sites. Both sides, GROW UP! What are ya 5 or 6 years old. My old man used to kick my ass for acting like that and rightfully so. Pro or con, it don't matter GROW UP. How do you react to your children acting like that. Some kid calls yours a jerk so you go kick his dad's butt? Learn people. Have fun. I've had more fun lately than I have in quite a while. I'm just as guilty as any of you but I try EVERY DAY to be better than I was yesterday.

That's it. Peace.

Oh and Tony, thanks for those links muchas gracias. You too Dinerry.

Awfully WISE for a JugDawg !! Your daddy taught you well. Thanks to both you and Tony who said what needed to be said. Maybe the mods should close the thread while it is still positive?

[doc9574]

Your correct tony, and well said. Many times Ive said be your own guru, the only intel I have ever personally received was from dinar trade, when all this was going on heavy about a lop and blah, blah ,blah I called them and said well what about this lop, and they told me it was a RUMOR started by an American politician. Now I have posted that no less than 4 maybe 5 times and everybody just ignored what I said, Maybe it' was because I could actually name my source so that meant he wasnt a legit "intel" source.however there was never this television show we were supposed to have over in Iraq informing the people of the dropping of the zeros and they havent been dropped yet so you know what , till proven otherwise Im going to believe them. I know a lot of people do a lot of hard work trying to find out for us and I am totally appreciative of that as I believe they are doing their best but until I see it officially it's all just a rumor to me wether it's negative or positive. I agree some people shouldnt be on here because their life is so sad they have nothing better to do than bring others down so they feel better but you know I dont have to read what they write, more than likely if they were ignored enough they would drift off to find someone else to aggravate. The best I can figure out from all of this is that it will rv sometime between now and the end of 2012, the rate will be between .10 and 16$ and all of that information came from this site (I know 16$ not gonna happen) but my prediction at this point is just as good as anybody elses and with that I will say good nite

[DmsC]

IF there was a way to give you more than one + I would. You have written what I have been thinking for a couple of years now. the TK and GET A Clue team IMO are a joke The thing with "guru's" is all of thme want something. Whether it is money fame what ever. the only "guru" I haven't figured out yet is scooter since he doesn't call himself a guru but shows research but I haven't heard him come out with dates and or rates. Again good job on the post well said.

[caz1104]

If some people have problems with rumors or a particular author, why read them? Why get all stressed out and pissed off over something you CAN avoid. I and most others here don't need to be told that some creators of rumors are full of it, we are all grown ups. But some here think they are smarter than most and feel the need to bash,complain, and tell all how bad a person those who offer rumors are.IT'S A FRICKIN RUMOR!! Who knows what a persons motive/motives are. Who is anyone to judge,myself included. This in my opinion, serves no purpose and makes you no better than those you bash. We are so very close to the end of this historic investment,sit back and enjoy..........................................................