kevin21673 Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 IF MALIKI GETS IN AS PM THERE WILL NOT BE A RV FOR SOMETIME LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD . HE IS CROOKED AND PROFITING OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ , WE NEED ALLAWI TO GO IN TO SEE RV. JUST MY OPINION 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIGuy Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 IF MALIKI GETS IN AS PM THERE WILL NOT BE A RV FOR SOMETIME LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD . HE IS CROOKED AND PROFITING OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ , WE NEED ALLAWI TO GO IN TO SEE RV. JUST MY OPINION That is so unfair and VERY untrue. There will be an RV regardless of who the PM is. It isn't about the PM, it is about a government being in place and before you get too high and mighty on ALL the bad things Maliki has done, why don't you check the approval rate of your boy Allawi. The Iraqis don't approve of him even more than Maliki. Maliki is who the people want in Iraq because Allawi is too timid. Just check the facts before making an unfounded statement. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robo5288 Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 IF MALIKI GETS IN AS PM THERE WILL NOT BE A RV FOR SOMETIME LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD . HE IS CROOKED AND PROFITING OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ , WE NEED ALLAWI TO GO IN TO SEE RV. JUST MY OPINION Doesn't make any difference who the PM is. Nobody cares. They are all corrupt. Just give us the RV. Thanks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phoenix Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) IF MALIKI GETS IN AS PM THERE WILL NOT BE A RV FOR SOMETIME LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD . HE IS CROOKED AND PROFITING OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ , WE NEED ALLAWI TO GO IN TO SEE RV. JUST MY OPINION 100% False. You "opinions" have zero basis in reality but have been fed to you by persons giving out false information on the forums. Fact: Iraq is under the constant audit and inspection of the UN for theft and coruption and in all of the reports to the US congress and the United Nations NEVER has Maliki been implicated in ANY type of theft, crime or fraud! If even one bit of the false things said about Maliki were true he would have been removed months ago and it would be the topic of every major news outlet in the US and EU. The supporting information for these FACTS can be found at website of the The SIGIR. SIGIR:The Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, they frequently provide testimony before U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate committees on SIGIR's oversight of the U.S. reconstruction effort in Iraq. Fact: SIGIR ( The Special Inspector General of Iraqi Reconstruction ) has done extensive investigations into corruption within Iraq since 2004, SIGIR’s investigative work has resulted in 24 arrests, 31 indictments, 24 convictions, and nearly $50 million in fines, forfeitures, and recoveries. This quarter, several ongoing joint investigations yielded successful results and Maliki has NEVER been implicated in ANY of the corruption and theft within Iraq! EVER! As a matter of fact Maliki has been PRAISED by the office SIGIR for his work and efforts to combat government and contractor theft and corruption! Not hear say...not political mud slinging...not BS...real factual information. You will see that the Prime Minister of Iraq (Malaki) is not only NOT singled out for corruption but was commended for his fight against government coruption! Full report: http://www.sigir.mil...dits/10-020.pdf SIGIR http://www.sigir.mil...ions/index.html But guess who HAS been fingered in the past for coruption and implicated in crime? Thats right....Allawi. Iyad Allawi ~ 'Saddam without a moustache' ... BBC News Profile ... "His tenure was marked by allegations of widespread corruption, collaboration with the US, and a hardline stance on security - the last attribute led some Iraqis to nickname him "Saddam without a moustache" Saturday, 27 March 2010 BBC News Profile: Iyad Allawi *Born 1945 to leading Shia family *Trained in UK as a neurologist *Former Baathist; exiled after falling out with Saddam Hussein *Survived an assassination attempt in 1978 while living in London *Co-founded Iraqi National Accord in 1991 after invasion of Kuwait *Backed failed 1996 attempt by Iraq army officers to oust Saddam *Became member of post-invasion Iraqi Governing Council in 2003 *Appointed prime minister of Iraq's transitional government in 2004 *Iraqi National List third in 2005 parliamentary election Iyad Allawi went into exile in the 1970s after falling foul of Saddam Hussein. Iyad Allawi was denounced by many Iraqis as an American puppet when he stepped down as prime minister five years ago. But the British-trained neurosurgeon has again become a leading contender for the job after his Iraqiya bloc's narrow victory in March's parliamentary election. Barring a successful challenge by Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's State of Law alliance, Mr Allawi will be given the opportunity to form a coalition government, paving the way for weeks of political wrangling. A secular Shia, he has promised that Iraqiya "will open its heart to all political forces and all those who want to build Iraq". Axe attack Mr Allawi is well-connected in Washington and London, has extensive business interests, and has close relations with Saudi Arabia. Born in 1945 to a prominent Shia Muslim merchant family, Mr Allawi joined the now banned Arab nationalist Baath Party as a young man. But he fell out with Saddam Hussein in the early 1970s after the party came to power and was forced to go into exile in the UK, where he completed his medical training. He was badly wounded in an assassination attempt while living in Kingston-upon-Thames in 1978, believed to have been ordered by Saddam. The assailant attacked Mr Allawi in his bedroom with an axe, nearly severing his right leg and inflicting a deep wound in his chest. Mr Allawi spent a year in hospital recovering from his injuries, after which he began to organise a network of opposition to Iraq's future president. In the 1980s he travelled extensively in the Middle East, holding meetings with other exiles, and cultivating links with rebel army officers still in Iraq. After Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, Mr Allawi co-founded the Iraqi National Accord (INA), which became known for attracting disillusioned former Baathists, and for its close links with Western intelligence agencies. With the backing of MI6 and the CIA, the group supported the idea of fostering a coup from within the Iraqi army to overthrow Saddam. But its attempts ended disastrously, most notably in 1996. The defection to Jordan the previous year of the Saddam's son-in-law, Hussein Kamil al-Majid, encouraged the INA and the CIA to believe that the president was losing his grip on power. But the coup was foiled when Iraqi intelligence agents penetrated the INA's dissident operations inside Iraq. In June 1996, 30 military officers linked to the INA were executed and another 100 arrested. 'Saddam without a moustache' In the aftermath of the invasion in 2003, Mr Allawi returned to Iraq and became a member of the US-appointed Iraqi Governing Council . During that time, he focused on running the IGC's security committee, which was responsible for reforming the army, police and intelligence services. He opposed the purging of members of Baath party from government positions. In June 2004, Mr Allawi was provisionally appointed Iraqi prime minister by Washington and led a transitional government for just under a year. His tenure was marked by allegations of widespread corruption, collaboration with the US, and a hardline stance on security - the last attribute led some Iraqis to nickname him "Saddam without a moustache". Mr Allawi supported the controversial US offensives to regain control of the predominantly Sunni Arab city of Fallujah in 2004, and against the Mahdi Army of the radical Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in Najaf. He also did little to dispel a rumour that he personally shot dead several suspected insurgents at a police station in Baghdad in 2004. Mr Allawi's government could do little, however, to prevent Iraq sliding into sectarian conflict, and his secular Iraqi National List alliance fared poorly in the parliamentary election of 2005, coming a distant third to the Shia-led United Iraqi Alliance. Despite winning election to the newly formed Council of Representatives in the second poll that year, he spent most of the subsequent years out of Iraq. Then in 2009, Mr Allawi launched al-Iraqiya (Iraqi National Movement), a nationalist alliance which includes Iraqi Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi, a Sunni Arab, and Sunni politician Saleh al-Mutlaq. While all of the major coalitions spoke of "national unity" ahead of the 7 March election, Iraqiya had a more consistent anti-sectarian perspective than most of their rivals and received many votes from disaffected Sunnis and Shias across Iraq. http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/3757923.stm Iraq's Allawi Connected to C.I.A. http://articlesofint...nnected-to.html Read more: Bottom line...things are NOT as they seem and we are looking good in this investment. Stick with the FACTS and you will be ok. Phoenix Edited August 10, 2010 by Phoenix 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveruss Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 False , thanks for sharing your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METEMARLO Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) back to the books my friend you've missed alot of dv class it doesnt matter who the pm will be just seat the govt then wait for the ride of your life Edited August 12, 2010 by METEMARLO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 IF MALIKI GETS IN AS PM THERE WILL NOT BE A RV FOR SOMETIME LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD . HE IS CROOKED AND PROFITING OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ , WE NEED ALLAWI TO GO IN TO SEE RV. JUST MY OPINION Maliki and his govt are the ones we need to thank, for the RV.....they voted and put the laws into effect last year to approve the RV......I personally think Maliki is fine for the PM position.....and the fact that the US still has his back makes you go hmmmmm....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicBain Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 at the same time maliki looks alittle too clean so could be suspicious whereas allawi does not deny shooting threats to his life (arabs can easily lie we all now its a game to them so why not have someone cover for him?) and oh wait does it say in his CV on filethere he actually collaborated with the US to remove hussien? gee sounds like a bad move allawi. cuz we know invading kuwait was tbe right thing to do. maliki probably just better and smarter at covering his tracks. imo toss them both and get a new guy, especially someone younger. let them enjoy their new wealth when the IQD RVs! respect your elders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 That is so unfair and VERY untrue. There will be an RV regardless of who the PM is. It isn't about the PM, it is about a government being in place and before you get too high and mighty on ALL the bad things Maliki has done, why don't you check the approval rate of your boy Allawi. The Iraqis don't approve of him even more than Maliki. Maliki is who the people want in Iraq because Allawi is too timid. Just check the facts before making an unfounded statement. A question if I may! If Allawi is too timid and "'the Iraqis dont approve of him" how come he got more seats than Maliki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnToGod Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 A question if I may! If Allawi is too timid and "'the Iraqis dont approve of him" how come he got more seats than Maliki? Probably the same reason Obama was elected POTUS: It was not a vote for Obama; it was a vote against the Republicans and Georgie-boy Bush politics. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) A question if I may! If Allawi is too timid and "'the Iraqis dont approve of him" how come he got more seats than Maliki? He did not. Yes Alliwi's party won more seats...but between Maliki and Alliwi Maliki had more votes (by a little over 250,000 or so) If it were a straight election between Alliwi and Maliki just based upon who got the most votes the winner would have been Maliki but that is not the case. They go by seats won and not by the whole party and not just the individual votes. Phoenix Edited August 12, 2010 by Phoenix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therentman Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Thanks for the post Phoenix. I think the consensus with everyone is "just form the government and get on with the plan". Money talks and BS walks, so for the good of Iraq, they better move quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy17 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Probably the same reason Obama was elected POTUS: It was not a vote for Obama; it was a vote against the Republicans and Georgie-boy Bush politics. Man i miss those georgie boys days compared to what we have now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade321 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 That really is uncalled for , Maliki would have RV ed this thing last Jan if he could ,,he's greed has slowed this up no doubt , dictatorship will not be excepted buy the rest of the world ( UN , IMF , US ) relax the rv will come no matter who is PM as long as the gov is in place ,,, we look good for this blessing anyday. Go RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splicer09 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Swing and a miss Kevin. As a matter of FACT, you aren't even in the ballpark. Thanks for posting though. phoenix did a fine job of educating those who might believe you. Just a seated gov...Just the facts ma'am..just the facts. GO RV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jac Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Maliki and his govt are the ones we need to thank, for the RV.....they voted and put the laws into effect last year to approve the RV......I personally think Maliki is fine for the PM position.....and the fact that the US still has his back makes you go hmmmmm....... It is about time I thought everyone had forgotten the above. You are right keepmwlknfny. It is a difficult because there are agreements between Maliki and US Government. We may never know the whys or the wherefores completely. My opinion is that Maliki will serve another term in order to see promses fulfilled on the Iraqi side and the US side whatever such promises happen to be. Perhaps it is true that United States has negotiated with Allawi and that is why he has now had a change of heart. Some of the events that have hindered the seating of the GOI can be laid right on the shoulders and the lack of action of our Adminstration in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prayin4peace Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 It is about time I thought everyone had forgotten the above. You are right keepmwlknfny. It is a difficult because there are agreements between Maliki and US Government. We may never know the whys or the wherefores completely. My opinion is that Maliki will serve another term in order to see promses fulfilled on the Iraqi side and the US side whatever such promises happen to be. Perhaps it is true that United States has negotiated with Allawi and that is why he has now had a change of heart. Some of the events that have hindered the seating of the GOI can be laid right on the shoulders and the lack of action of our Adminstration in DC. If you thought the Bush Administration missed the boat, this administration doesn't even know where the dock is. The Anointed One doesn't have a clue and his handling of his Generals proves it. It's time to place some demands on the Iraqi govt. to get this done. GO RV!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPATOM Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 IF MALIKI GETS IN AS PM THERE WILL NOT BE A RV FOR SOMETIME LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD . HE IS CROOKED AND PROFITING OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ , WE NEED ALLAWI TO GO IN TO SEE RV. JUST MY OPINION wow...you sure make a strong point! with plenty of support and then...you say...Just my opinion. it seemed like a good idea at the time huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddydave Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Have you seen Green Zone Where the Intelgent opperations of are gov. where corupt and the sided with the same group saddam was from. Well this is it all over maybe what are gov. want is not what the people of Iraq want and maybe A. knows it and thats why he is fighting to keep the rights he won fair and square Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Thanks for the post Phoenix. I think the consensus with everyone is "just form the government and get on with the plan". Money talks and BS walks, so for the good of Iraq, they better move quickly. Hey therentman, you seem to have the right Idea. If the rest of the folks on here would listen to your words, "just form the government and get on with the plan".It does not matter about "good guy" or "bad guy" as though they are running for a popularity contest. Matters not who is in PM position, seating a "government" is what counts at this stage of game. The RV will be done when they are ready and if they don't get this thing formed then security and conditions will not improve for the Iraqi people period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper51 Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Doesn't make any difference who the PM is. Nobody cares. They are all corrupt. Just give us the RV. Thanks You could not have said it better. I for one will not defend either as they are all crooks and out for only what they can get. Both should be charged and tried for they both have committed multipal crimes against the people of Iraq. Give us the RV and to H with them. Edited August 12, 2010 by viper51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxthom Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 All these guys care about is money! Wait, that's why we're in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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