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12 hours ago, umbertino said:

 

It's clear ( and it'd be stupid and senseless denying that) that Cuba has a lot of problems ...I'd rather not  dig back on the causes as I know that would lead us to strong debates and arguments most likely completely useless in that  each of us would stick to their convictions about all that.....So......I'll only say it has been excluded from the main money institutions and has enormous difficulties in asking for Int'l loans  ( other than making deals with single Nations of course)

 

 

LIFE IN CUBA TODAY

 

https://www.bizevdeyokuz.com/en/life-in-cuba-today/

 

https://www.internations.org/go/moving-to-cuba/living

 

https://shershegoes.com/life-in-cuba-castro/

 

http://www.liveincuba.com/live-in-cuba/chapter-ii/11-the-people

 

https://havanatimes.org/diaries/graham-sowas-diary/sweet-home-havana-us-citizens-living-in-cuba/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The tool of Satanism is Communism. The goal is chaos and blinding people to the light of the Lord. Cuba is a blighted example of the evil men call good. 

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43 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

The tool of Satanism is Communism. The goal is chaos and blinding people to the light of the Lord. Cuba is a blighted example of the evil men call good. 

 

I can only respect your stance on the issue but I do not concur with it...I guess we'll all see and have an Epiphany in due time....Which might be in your favor ( sure, why not) or otherwise.....

 

I simply can't see ( maybe my own lack of vision) God and neither the Devil taking sides on the left or the right....That's the way I feel, at least....

 

 

Time will tell about Cuba.....Let's say 20 / 30 years or more from now......

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50 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

I can only respect your stance on the issue but I do not concur with it...I guess we'll all see and have an Epiphany in due time....Which might be in your favor ( sure, why not) or otherwise.....

 

I simply can't see ( maybe my own lack of vision) God and neither the Devil taking sides on the left or the right....That's the way I feel, at least....

 

 

Time will tell about Cuba.....Let's say 20 / 30 years or more from now......

Thank you for the respect, and I will show you the same. As far as the devil and God taking sides that is the history of men. I personally believe that we do very little on our own without spiritual influence one way or the other. As far as time will tell with Cuba, that country has been under communism rule for over 50 years how much time does it take to see the disaster that socialism and communism creates?

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23 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 

 

 

But I was always taught ( in history books etc) that one of the very traits  of the United States  was immigration and inclusion....One of the pillars of American values infact....The capability of being able to accept / welcome Folks coming from the most diverse cultures and corners of the world and give them a chance of a decent  ( if not successful even) living.....

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4 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

 

But I was always taught ( in history books etc) that one of the very traits  of the United States  was immigration and inclusion....One of the pillars of American values infact....The capability of being able to accept / welcome Folks coming from the most diverse cultures and corners of the world and give them a chance of a decent  ( if not successful even) living.....

You may wanna get another history book. 

And the issue today isn't immigration, it's LEGAL IMMIGRATION 

 

In 1932 President Hoover and the State Department essentially shut down immigration during the Great Depression as immigration went from 236,000 in 1929 to 23,000 in 1933.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_laws_concerning_immigration_and_naturalization_in_the_United_States#20th_century

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3 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Thank you for the respect, and I will show you the same. As far as the devil and God taking sides that is the history of men. I personally believe that we do very little on our own without spiritual influence one way or the other. As far as time will tell with Cuba, that country has been under communism rule for over 50 years how much time does it take to see the disaster that socialism and communism creates?

 

Hello LGD....Thanks for the mutual respect which is appreciated.....I must admit that while I was writing that post of mine above ..I already had the feeling I was going to receive  an answer like that... " It's been already a long time for Cuba to be Communist..."  Which surely may make sense  for some / many....

 

I'm only  saying about this feeling of mine....Nothing more...When I feel clearer  in my mind and thoughts , I'll try to write a ( I hope at least) sensible post facing said issue....Not sure if It'll be a good one or not....But at least I will try

 

Best and have a great weekend

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14 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

Hello LGD....Thanks for the mutual respect which is appreciated.....I must admit that while I was writing that post of mine above ..I already had the feeling I was going to receive  an answer like that... " It's been already a long time for Cuba to be Communist..."  Which surely may make sense  for some / many....

 

I'm only  saying about this feeling of mine....Nothing more...When I feel clearer  in my mind and thoughts , I'll try to write a ( I hope at least) sensible post facing said issue....Not sure if It'll be a good one or not....But at least I will try

 

Best and have a great weekend

You're welcome. While we don't agree politically I've ALWAYS enjoyed the level of respect you bring to the table. 

 

 

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Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

You're welcome. While we don't agree politically I've ALWAYS enjoyed the level of respect you bring to the table. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, LGD

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The funniest thing I've seen all year is how a blithering BIMBO can manipulate a bunch of decrepit old dinosaurs to follow her off the cliff 

 

 

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On 7/1/2019 at 2:03 PM, bostonangler said:

 

That's a great story... Remember when it was the Las Vegas of the Caribbean? Just imagine how quickly it would change if we bought off the corrupt leader, dropped the sanctions and let investors go in. The rest of the world vacations there including your buddy, but we are still living with an outdated policy... We only exclude ourselves...  

 

B/A

 

 

There was a period in the 50's ( when Batista was the ruler) in which Cuba was called ( not my words)  " the Paradise of Mafia(s)"  and also ( again not my words) " America's brothel" ( re. casinos and women etc)

 

I'd believe that's at least one of the points which inspired the Revolution  (you need to add the rampant racism at the time to the equation plus other issues)

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Let him pay for her, the child and the rest of the family. 

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18 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

WOW,you read allot 

 

 

LOL....Yes...I try to, at least.....

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I am convinced that something HUGE is about to come down on these people. It's the only thing that even remotely explains there behavior. They know their going to pay for treason 

 

 

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