GOOD CHANCE OBAMA & MALIKI ARE GOING TO BURN ALL US DINAR INVESTORS , IT COULD BE A SECRET AGENDA

[teddyjay]

It is a good read. Thank you for posting.

INTERNET GURU'S - BASIL III COMPLIANT - from a retired judge

THIS IS A MUST READ  

If you are tired of all the guru's info and you are confused as to what is and what isn't....

this email I got may help you....its from a retired judge. Enjoy!

            INTERNET GURU'S  - BASIL III COMPLIANT

Remember the old PROVERB: 'Knowledge is power?'

 Well all of you Dinarians need to 'power-up' and understand a few things that these Internet Guru's obviously do not!   The RV [revalue] isn't just about Iraq and the Dinar or Vietnam and the Dong.

   The RV is an international matter, which does not necessitate; require or focus upon Maliki or Shabbi's permission or the United Nations approval or acknowledgment.

  For those of you who do not research history, government, law and politics: ISRAEL is the Puppet Master.  They pull the strings and call the shots of the Criminal Cabal and have been in control of the United States Corporation since 1913.

'Those who do not know their past are condemned to repeat it.'

George Santayana

The Chinese have no designs on World Domination and still they are responsible for championing the RV internationally.   Seventy one Countries opposed the RV because it meant the destruction of their FIAT based currency and government.   All of those Countries are United Nations members.   Now isn't that curious?

 The balance of the 194 Countries who are not United Nations members, voted in favor of the RV because they are tired of selling their goods and services internationally, in exchange for worthless paper [or] script, a/k/a FIAT currency!

The RV is all about forcing all Countries who wish to trade internationally, to make their currency [asset backed] or BASIL III compliant!   BASIL III means currency guaranteed by gold, silver or some other measurable asset accountability: [e.g.] NO MORE Bonded Promissory Notes drawn against government issued birth certificates [or] currency backed by counterfeit Liens [or] Bonds simply created out of thin air, which is the reason why the Euro is on the verge of collapsing right now!

You all know about America's NATIONAL DEBT and heard the arguments about how our government leaders have squandered the labor and assets of future generations for centuries to come!

Now here's the truth about that argument:

America is a FIAT or debt based government and economy, and in order to stabilize a FIAT system, it is necessary to PERPETUATE DEBT and never pay it off!  Hence, the reason why Congress refuses to be held to a balanced budget and the reason for our military involvement in so many foreign wars!   Even a high tax structure helps to perpetuate debt, especially when 100% of your tax dollars are exported out of the United States!   And I bet you thought your taxes ran the government and wars were all about stopping Communist aggression!   In the minds of our government leaders:  'War and taxes are good for business!'   Spoken like a true sociopath!

Debt represents a negative number and in America, debt is perpetuated with the use of promissory notes called: 'Federal Reserve Notes.'   The Federal Reserve is neither Federal nor is it a Reserve.   It is a privately owned foreign corporation and is also known by the name: The Bank of International Settlements.   The Federal Reserve Corporation is owned and controlled by a group of Sabbatean Jewish Bankers based in Israel.   America's NATIONAL DEBT is actually Israe's Debt   but we all have been taught that it is America's obligation and responsibility, with the use of clever patriotic slogans like:

'This is the cost of Freedom!'

You've got to love those patriotic slogans!

The NATIONAL DEBT is a trick bookkeeping entry, which does not involve any real assets because a real asset entry would immediately cancel the debt.   Under the Uniform Commercial Code, promissory notes such as a Federal Reserve Note, is defined as a: 'Negotiable Debt Instrument' and so the National Debt of America is based entirely upon these negotiable debt instruments.   In retrospect, America's National Debt can be cancelled at any time with an asset bookkeeping entry and the payment of one dollar of solid gold or silver!

A positive cancels a negative, even when the negative is in the trillions.   It's basic Algebra!

I sent this to a friend of mine and he questioned my math because he is old school and my math didn't make sense to him!   So I wrote back to him with this example and explanation:

If you add [-1 and +1] what is the sum?   The answer is [0] because each cancels the other out.

  Now if you add [-34,000 and +1] what is the sum?

 The answer is still [0] because each cancels the other out.

  Here's the trick:  [-1] can be broken up into

 -35,000 pieces or more but when all those pieces are glued back together ,

you still have nothing more than the original [-1].

In Mathematics, [0] = [0] and anything less than [0] is still [0].   Algebra on the other hand, dissects that result and theorizes the possibility of negative numbers having values.   The National Debt represents negative numbers that appear to have values!

The Federal Reserves bookkeeping system conceals this simple truth, which is also known as 'debt slavery' and to complete their circle of fraud and slavery, the American public must be trained to believe that 'Federal Reserve Notes' have real value!   This was accomplished by and through forced public education!   Our government officials concluded that under these conditions the American public could be taught to believe anything we choose [and] our Licenses and Diplomas are proof of their success!

PS/  Don't look in Fort Knox for that gold dollar because there isn't any gold there!   America's gold was embezzled by previous federal government leaders during their planned Great Depression of 1933,  however one dollar of any currency that is BASIL III Compliant can cancel the Israeli / American National Debt and this is why the United Nations membership is so vehemently opposed to the international revalue of currency.   Many member Countries have attempted to instigate WWIII in the middle east and Asia, in an attempt to head off the RV. [e.g.]  The tsunami in Japan was created by the detonation of an under water A-bomb.   Japan's political structure is in revolt and the new faction supports the RV and desires to sever Japan's alliance with the United Nations.

This new FIAT based government for the United States is the real reason why Franklin Roosevelt, issued a Presidential Order in 1933, that directed all American citizens to surrender their gold during the Great Depression [and] why under the Federal Banking Act, the Constitutional control of America's currency and the US Mint was surrendered to the Federal Reserve Board [and] why under the Federal Coinage Act, it became unlawful for American citizens to own solid gold and silver [and] why all American coins are now plated with mixed alloys and filled with charcoal.

  Only jewelers can own solid gold, if related to his trade and numismatists are permitted to collect and trade Silver Certificates; solid gold and silver, but the moment they offer any of these in payment of a Federal debt; they have committed a Federal Crime!

BASIL III shall eliminate Israel's debt based strangle hold over America and shall cause all of the Federal Reserve Notes that our politicians and industrial leaders have stolen and or accumulated to instantly become as worthless as used paper.

Imagine Bill Gates and Mitt Romney being as poor as you and me!

The Iraqi Dinar and the Vietnam Dong have received the greatest amount of attention by and from currency speculators because both currencies have the greatest potential to generate huge dividends with the international RV.   Both of these currencies had previously been devalued by the World Bank; the IMF and CBI by virtue of the international influence wheeled by the United States, Corp!

The devaluation of currency is a military strategy designed to defeat a Country economically while attacking them physically.   Iraqi Dinar's were previously worth 3.22 US prior to their devaluation but I'm not certain what the Dong was worth prior to its devaluation.

Iraqi History:

 When the new government for Iraq was installed and approved by the United Nations around 16 months ago, the very first action by the Iraqi government was to petition the United Nations to be released from Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and request permission to freely Contract with other Countries once again.   The United Nations agreed to both requests pending the submission and approval of a repayment plan for Kuwait and repayment of all other debts Iraq has accumulated during their occupation and reconstruction.   Iraq submitted a plan, which was approved and the Bankruptcy was released and Iraq's first new Contract was with the Soviets, to supply Russia with ten trillion dollars worth of crude over the next five years!

All of the internal politics about Iraq that these Internet Guru's have been writing about has no bearing on the worldwide RV.  Their recent comments and Intel about Iraq's Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and their repayment plan holding up the RV is old news and incorrect news.   This is all Cabal propaganda and rhetoric being used to transfer attention from the Cabal to Iraq, while the Cabal regroups and grabs at straws to block the RV and save their thousand year plan for World Domination!  None of this misdirection will do the Cabal any good but does explain what the RV delay is really all about!

The WHITE HATS have a different plan and schedule in mind, which first involves the collapse of the FIAT governments by and through the international RV; the mass arrests of Cabal members for crimes against humanity; the installation of temporary governments and lastly the release of technology that has been withheld from us under the guise of TOP SECRET!   This technology will destroy the oil industries strangle hold on all Countries foreign and domestic and will eliminate their lies and arguments to drill more oil wells in environmentally dangerous and protected venues.   PS/ Oil wells never go dry because Mother Earth methodically refills them as crude is pumped out!

  Wells can be pumped out faster than the Earth can refill them but they will all eventually be refilled just the same!

The WHITE HATS plan requires that the international RV occur first because the BASIL III compliance regulation will cause the eventual collapse the worlds FIAT governments and cancel their worthless counterfeit currency.   So if you're eagerly waiting for the RV to occur, be comforted by the fact that 194 Countries are just as eager for the RV as you!   Keep in mind that the Cabals mercenaries are not patriotic souls and do not work for free!   If the Cabal cannot hire or pay for their mercenaries, who is left to protect them?

Speculation about the Dinar and Dong have caused most of these Internet Guru's to concentrate only on these two international currencies, absent any real knowledge or understanding about the RV.   Their Internet Blog; member following and their personal ignorance, make them an easy mark for disinformation agents who frequently feed them useless Intel about the internal politics of Iraq and Vietnam.   Have you ever witnessed any of these Internet Guru's discuss any of the historic; political; monetary or international facts or details I have just elaborated on?

Since the world wide RV is certain to collapse all FIAT based governments, why in hell would any of these Internet Guru's ever recommend setting up any kind of bank account or trust at any of the Federal Reserve Banks?   If they had any real intellect, these Guru's, should be recommending off-shore accounts in safe foreign venues.   I believe one of these Guru's, actually used the term FDIC insured.   For those of you who don't know, the FDIC went Bankrupt around 2006 and not one deposit entered into any Federal Reserve Bank has been insured after that date!

I even recall reading about some Guru recommending a special non-taxable, non-interest bearing, secured account created by Congress, called: 'Tag Accounts.'  Well, isn't that special because when the Federal Reserve and the United States FIAT government collapses; so does the monetary system and their regulatory laws called Statutes!   [i.e.]  Statues are actually corporate regulations and not law!   They can only be enforced against sub-corporations, which is why all of our names are all spelled out in capital letters!   Still these people who claim to be Internet Guru's continue to offer other investors such irresponsible and ruminant counsel !   Worse still is the fact that there actually are Dinarians in our society who are  prepared to blindly follow their stolid advice and risk losing it all!

The only positive comment I can write about these Internet Gurus is that they do perpetuate the American dream and daily bring a small ray of hope into the lives of a people and culture that certainly deserve something better……

Blessings,

 Judge Dale, retired

Posted by John MacHaffie at 10:49 AM

15 comments:

AnonymousApr 8, 2012 08:12 AM

I appreciate the comments, Judge Dale, retired.

latest White Hat report is out with news of Hertzog scam/intimidation, Billions going into pockets of Romney and J. Bush. Up today at www.tdarkcabal.blogspot.com, after a month of waiting.

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SonnyApr 8, 2012 08:35 AM

Bingo!! Thank you Judge Dale....I've always thought there was something amiss with the focus on the Iraqi Dinar and the Dong.....I kept thinking, what about those who didn't have Dinars and Dongs? just how small or big is the percentage of people with these currencies? How the heck does this have to do with the emancipation of humanity if only a few "privileged" people stand to "cash in"? It just didn't make sense to me after following the Dinar reports religiously.....some gurus even have the temerity to imply that "Christians" will be rich after this.....again thank you Judge Dale

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 08:37 AM

Makes total sense to me. Nice post John, thanks. Once one strips away all of the RV rhetoric it falls nicely into place doesn't it?!

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 08:52 AM

Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 08:56 AM

Finally, someone who makes sense. No RV until all fiat currencies are revalued, including the dollar. Don't look for it by tomorrow. The gurus have been had.

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 08:56 AM

Thanks to Judge Dale for telling us like it is. Maybe this post will shut down the guru's who can't spell, can't write a simple sentence and have been giving all the dinar investors false hope.

Thanks to John for posting this and opening the eyes and minds of all of us who have been believing what the guru's have been telling us.

The guru's need to stop posting hopium and misrepresenting the facts - please.

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 09:03 AM

Chapter 7 doesn't have to do with Bankruptcy... it has to do with UN peace sanctions.

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 09:05 AM

"why in hell would any of these Internet Guru's ever recommend setting up any kind of bank account or trust at any of the Federal Reserve Banks"

I remember this well. There may be a guru in the bunch but some are just average Joe's who have no idea what they are talking about .. and then again some may be plants.

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Dave BaraApr 8, 2012 10:18 AM

Dood-Frank accounts (non-interest bearing, guaranteed by the US TREASURY) are where most "guru's" are telling us to park our money post-RV. This is because Federal Reserve Notes will be replaced by TREASURY NOTES after the RV and thus the money is guranteed (insured). These accounts were set up in order to protect the Big Wigs cash during the transition. There is no need to take your money off-shore.

There will be a "devaluation" of the US dollar; this will actually be an exchange of worthless FRN's for new TREASURY NOTES at a rate of probably 1:4 or 1:5.

db

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Master ThinkerApr 8, 2012 12:21 PM

Before blindly believing "Judge Dale": let's take into account:

As of 7/2011 there are officially 195 sovereign states [countries] in the world.

Of which 193 are members.

Now... going into specifics.

Of the 193 only 87 are full fledged Democracies.

And 54 are ECOSOC members.

http://www.eyeontheun.org/facts.asp?1=1&p=16

http://www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml

http://www.un.org/en/ecosoc/about/members.shtml

Sorry but while a good story, if you can't bring forth the correct numbers/facts to back up your statement, the credibility and feasibility of this entire story [yes--but admittedly a good one] goes down the tubes.

Sorry to dash everyone's hopes.

To quote "Judge Dale":

Seventy one Countries opposed the RV because it meant the destruction of their FIAT based currency and government. All of those Countries are United Nations members. Now isn't that curious?

The balance of the 194 Countries who are not United Nations members, voted in favor of the RV because they are tired of selling their goods and services internationally, in exchange for worthless paper [or] script, a/k/a FIAT currency!

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 12:36 PM

Great post judge! Thank you for making all this mess crystal clear for us! Makes sense now why all the delays & false hopes; however, I do agree w/Dave Bara no need to take our funds off-shore imp.

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 12:47 PM

Interesting comments, Thanks! I thought at first the White Hats were referring to a retired Judge, as in a Courtroom; then I realized that instead, this is just his name--Judge Dale (who is retired); you know like the other Judge guy--the actor, "Judge Reinhold, Retired" (from movies).

Anyway, you are right, Dave Bara when you say,

"Dood-Frank accounts (non-interest bearing, guaranteed by the US TREASURY) are where most "guru's" are telling us to park our money post-RV. This is because Federal Reserve Notes will be replaced by TREASURY NOTES after the RV and thus the money is guaranteed (insured). Dood-Frank accounts (non-interest bearing, guaranteed by the US TREASURY) are where most "guru's" are telling us to park our money post-RV. This is because Federal Reserve Notes will be replaced by TREASURY NOTES after the RV and thus the money is guaranteed (insured)." Absolutely right--the new asset-backed US Treasury dollars will not be a fiat money, it will both have underlying value, and it will be issued by and guaranteed by the US Treasury. Also, these old Fed Reserve fiat notes will not all be allowed exchange to new valuable Treasury Dollars until first their source is verified via the Treasury's US Dollar Refunding Program--this will keep crooks and cabal money stashed off-shore from sneaking in--if the owner can't show a legitimate, legal SOURCE of their fiat cash pile, WOOPS--sorry, you don't get new Treasury Dollars in exchange. Instead, they get to keep their fiat Dollars along with their sad memories of how it would have been to be rich with real dollars, instead of their Monopoly fiat Dollars (which will shortly expire--but still good for wallpaper or out-house users.) Thanks Bara--good to see someone not confused and wrong like J. McKoffie. NESARA has some good ideas, but its supporters always seem more confused when trying to understand it than its critics!! No wonder it can't get off the ground or passed into law. If there were better educated, logical people to advocate its merits--you know, who understand the law and other relevant topics like the distinction between up and down, and then can move on to learn about making specific points, doing real research, and being in a state paranoid-schizoid delirium when asked to substantiate any of their claims, rather than just make whopping generalizations LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTER--without flinching (THE CABAL, THE CABAL, THE CABAL!!!!!!), as if they were just throwing out something blatantly SIMPLE AND COMPLETELY obvious to any and all ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE. LOL ??!!"

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 12:53 PM

Who will approve it--the Judge? Oh no--my God--will it be THE CABAL??!!! Oh ****, I'm freaking out!!!

Tell you what--I'm a famous person--if you publish this comment, there is a very good chance your cause will gain some important credibility where you need it most. If not (which I fully expect, as do my colleagues at the ______ Times, you will go on into nowhere, which will take forever, and upon arrival, find nothing--not even a McKofie's with a Drive-Thru...

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AnonymousApr 8, 2012 06:49 PM

Great Information. I used to wish that the Dinar and Dong would revalue now, now, now, but more than anything my thinking has changed to "I hope they get those bastards, and now, now, now"....THAT IS NOW MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

Boy would I love to see that happen. We need to be freed from this "prison planet" more than that money for our own sanity and well-being.

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AnonymousApr 9, 2012 12:50 AM

Posted by enerchi at 4/07/2012 10:36:00 PM ....4 comments:....Anonymous Apr 7, 2012 09:02 PM But Judge Dale didn't give Dinarians any good suggestion where to cash out after RV, and does't he mean, RV will still take for awhile, before all the cabals step down and are arrested? Who has any idea ? ///

Esoteric Turnage,Apr 8, 2012 06:03 AM Thank u for sharing your Light Judge. Love n Gods Light 2 U and Yours // Unknown Apr 8, 2012 09:32 AM Basel iii is a Banking Regulatory piece of work. (see http://www.basel-iii-accord.com/ for more info.) And given that this accord was made by the "G20" how will this hold up if the G20 is part of the 74 United Nations members, the USA being one of them? It seems to me that cashing out my triple "0" IQD for the equivalent lower denoms IQD until the new banking system emerges, might be one strategy to consider. /// Anonymous Apr 8, 2012 09:29 PM Judge, Don't give Israel so much credit. It's the Vatican that pulls the strings, they just let the Rothchilds run their banks for them. They knew that when the Global system collapses, they can blame it on the Jew. Great Article....Thanks.

from: http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2012/04/retired-judge-educates-dinar-community.html ///

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/p/about-this-blog.html

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/p/my-spiritual-psychic-metaphysical.html

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/p/links-of-interest.html

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/p/2011-2013-sequence-of-events-leading-to.html

http://nesaranews.bl...liant-from.html

[Luigi1]

Let's just hope the RV is put on hold till after the US elections & hope Obama is defeated.

I wouldn't put anything past these weasels. Prosperity is not part of their game plan unless it is they that are prosperous.

[OrDinarE]

Look at all the slimy snakeeeeee things obamacide and his regime have done in the dark of nite . He is the ultimate sneek . Depend on him to always try to benefit from someone elses elbow Grease .Where did this creep really come from ? Do we know , nooooooooo! Out with this tyrant . Talk to your friends, anyone who will listen to logic remotely . We must work to gather to oust this monster from our white house .. Vote him outttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!

LMAO!!!! U seem to eat, sleep, and shi$ with Obama on the brain! You may need to lie on someones couch and 'let it all out'..... I am scared to be in your neck of the woods if Obama gets re-elected ROTFLMAO!.

Thank you for your intelligent comment. Obama has NOTHING to do with the Iraqi Dinar!!!

Finally a voice of reason!!! ;-)

[dvforumuser]

It isn't Obama, or the bankers, or the Rothschilds, or Malaki, or any government that are putting one over on you, its the dealers and pumpers that started and propagate the RV myth in the first place. No grand conspiracy theories are needed to explain why the global currency reset including the Iraqi RV has not occurred, as they are inventions to get us to buy something for more than it is worth and will never occur!!

[Roberticos]

LMAO!!!! U seem to eat, sleep, and shi$ with Obama on the brain! You may need to lie on someones couch and 'let it all out'..... I am scared to be in your neck of the woods if Obama gets re-elected ROTFLMAO!.

Finally a voice of reason!!! ;-)

Well maybe Obama doesn't have anything to do with the RV. But one thing is fact, his administration sucks!!! Can't wait for elections...

[OrDinarE]

Well maybe Obama doesn't have anything to do with the RV. But one thing is fact, his administration sucks!!! Can't wait for elections...

I can live iwith that! ;-)

[64jaguar]

Liberty Counsel

Mathew Staver, Founder and Chairman

4/9/2012

Last month, President Obama issued an Executive Order – empowering himself with the authority to declare martial law and seize American resources and manpower – in a sweeping power grab that should disturb every American.

This is yet another emerging battleground in the Obama administration’s intensifying war on the Constitution. Please see my crucial message below – Mat.

Under President Barack Obama, the Executive Branch’s quest for power at the expense of the other two Branches appears to be accelerating. In fact, the administration’s propensity to sidestep the Constitution is making news nearly every day now.

According to columnist Jeffrey T. Kuhner of The Washington Times, through his quietly announced “National Defense Resources Preparedness” Executive Order (EO) signed on March 16th, President Obama placed himself and certain government bureaucrats above the law.

That single EO granted the power “to commandeer all U.S. domestic resources, including food and water, as well as seize all energy and transportation infrastructure inside the borders of the United States.”

Further, the Government can also forcibly draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill ‘labor requirements’ for the purposes of ‘national defense.’ There is not even any congressional oversight allowed – only briefings, says Kuhner.

Mr. Kuhner called Obama’s power grab, “stunning in its audacity and a flagrant violation of the Constitution… He now possesses the potential powers of a dictator.”

President Obama’s stunning agenda to “fundamentally transform” the United States of America has now been fully exposed as a systematic assault on our Constitution in order to form a more socialized union.

That’s why we are calling on ALL American citizens to rise up and “Stop the War on the Constitution”!

++Obama’s Executive Order gives unprecedented power to unelected bureaucrats.

Under the President’s control in an undefined scenario of “national defense,” the Order gives…

• The Secretary of Defense power over all water resources;

• The Secretary of Commerce power over all material services and facilities, including construction materials;

• The Secretary of Transportation power over all forms of civilian transportation;

• The Secretary of Agriculture power over food resources and facilities, livestock plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment;

• The Secretary of Health and Human Services power over all health resources;

• The Secretary of Energy power over all forms of energy.

This order seizes more power for the Executive Branch while diminishing the Legislative Branch – and is blatantly unconstitutional. Sadly, it is only one of several such attacks on the Constitution we have seen in 2012.

In response, Congresswoman Sandy Adams (R-FL), has introduced a House Resolution to further define and reign in the President’s tyrannical Order in sidestepping the Constitution and Congress.

In announcing the Resolution, she stated…

“This [Order] leaves the door open for the president to give himself control over American resources during both times of peace, and national crisis… We [Congress] were elected to protect the values that make our nation great and to be a line of defense against the growing interjection of government into the everyday lives of the American people. I will continue to defend the principles on which our nation was founded and I will continue to uphold our Constitution.”

The American people are “calling out” Barack Obama.

We are united in purpose in calling for constitutional authority, accountability, transparency, and respect for the rule of law by all officials who have sworn to “uphold the Constitution of the United States” – especially the President of the United States.

This is an email I recently received from Liberty Counsel. President of the U.S. Corporation who swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States. who woulda thunk it!

Anyone want to make a prediction we won't be able to vote Barry Soetoro out in November??

[lsvet]

If osamabama gets 4 more years we will never see the RV............ Just saying...

[dvforumuser]

If osamabama gets 4 more years we will never see the RV............ Just saying...

Rather a safe prediction given that the RV is a myth in the first place.

[lsvet]

Then why are you here?

[dvforumuser]

Then why are you here?

I was invested, I am not anymore. I still find the topic, the whole myth mechanism and thinking, interesting. e.g.: Why is it that when someone disagrees with you, your reaction is to question their motives for participating in the discussion?

[lsvet]

Just can't imagine wasting time here if you don't see in it.. Must not have much to do or maybe you DO believe and curious to see if maybe you made a mistake by getting out. Doesnt look like you were in very long.

[Carrello]

WERE IS THE STATE DEPARTMENT , WHERE IS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION . IRAQI IS RIPE FOR A CIVIL WAR . THIS CAN BE SCAM PUT ON BY THE FED AND THE CENTRAL BANKERS . WHO'S STOPING MALIKI ?? NOBODY !!! SURE THERE MAYBE A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE . THE POWER STRUGGLE HAS ALREDY BEEN DECIDED . IT COULD BE A WAY OUT FOR THE BANKERS . SOMETHING AIN'T RIGHT HERE . WE KNOW MALIKI'S BACK TO THE WALL BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME OBAMA'S AND BANKERS HAVE SOMETHING UP THERE SLEVES . THEY ALL COULD POSSIBLY BE ROBBING ALL US BLIND , AND KEEP US ALL AS SLAVES . MALIKI NEEDS TO BE STOPPED DEAD IN HIS TRACKS NOW , TAKE OVER THE CBI MY ASS !!!!!!!!!! THOUGHTS PLEASE , PEACE TO ALL AND HAPPY EASTER !

What is wrong with you? Really.

[zigmeister]

I was invested, I am not anymore. I still find the topic, the whole myth mechanism and thinking, interesting. e.g.: Why is it that when someone disagrees with you, your reaction is to question their motives for participating in the discussion?

So whats the title of your book? 'I Don't Drink Dinar Koolaid Anymore', 'How I Escaped from the Dinar Moonies', 'Dinar Speculation, Myth or Truth or Guru JuJu', or 'Facing Reality On the Iraqi RV' 'Doritoes Saved Me From Dinar'

[dvforumuser]

So whats the title of your book? 'I Don't Drink Dinar Koolaid Anymore', 'How I Escaped from the Dinar Moonies', 'Dinar Speculation, Myth or Truth or Guru JuJu', or 'Facing Reality On the Iraqi RV' 'Doritoes Saved Me From Dinar'

What makes you so afraid of hearing anything other than a go-RV viewpoint that you resort to this sort of nonsense?

Just can't imagine wasting time here if you don't see in it.. Must not have much to do or maybe you DO believe and curious to see if maybe you made a mistake by getting out. Doesnt look like you were in very long.

I'm not responsible for your limited imagination. I am in front of a computer a lot (I'm a programmer) so its easy to take a quick look. I was in it for about 11 months, and no I am certain I made a good choice by getting out when I did. The only better choice would have been to not get in, but back then the Koolaid tasted soooo good.

[the wolf]

the Rothschilds banking cartel own the CBI..Obama's got nothing to do with the Iraqi Dinar....if Iraq was really headed for civil war, do you think Shell and Exxon would be inking multi-BILLION dollar oil contracts? So much investment money is pouring into Iraq monthly, it truly is staggering. The Iraqi government sideshow is just that, a bunch of puppets trying to be 1st at the trough,,,the Iraq government did not conceive of this plan with their currency, nor are they in control of it. BANKSTERS run everything.

What makes you think the Rothchilds own the CBI?

http://cbi.iq/documents/CBILAW-EN_f.pdf

See page 11 from the CBI banking law. It explains it pretty clearly.

You are correct that Obama has nothing to do with it.

Edited April 11, 2012 by the wolf

[uncirculd]

WERE IS THE STATE DEPARTMENT , WHERE IS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION . IRAQI IS RIPE FOR A CIVIL WAR . THIS CAN BE SCAM PUT ON BY THE FED AND THE CENTRAL BANKERS . WHO'S STOPING MALIKI ?? NOBODY !!! SURE THERE MAYBE A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE . THE POWER STRUGGLE HAS ALREDY BEEN DECIDED . IT COULD BE A WAY OUT FOR THE BANKERS . SOMETHING AIN'T RIGHT HERE . WE KNOW MALIKI'S BACK TO THE WALL BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME OBAMA'S AND BANKERS HAVE SOMETHING UP THERE SLEVES . THEY ALL COULD POSSIBLY BE ROBBING ALL US BLIND , AND KEEP US ALL AS SLAVES . MALIKI NEEDS TO BE STOPPED DEAD IN HIS TRACKS NOW , TAKE OVER THE CBI MY ASS !!!!!!!!!! THOUGHTS PLEASE , PEACE TO ALL AND HAPPY EASTER !

Calm down. Dang you sound like me when I know something to be true and fight for it. Iraq is not ripe for a civil war. They are ripe for a democracy. Look at this. Think about it. If they didn't call out the crooks and let it go, it would then comes to a big bubble and burst. This bickering has been going on and they don't want it bigger. Maliki is going to be stopped one way or another. If we are reading all this stuff what do you think they know that we don't. There was another article on 2 other bodyguards of Hashemi were also tortured. If they are talking about it, they are fixing to do something about it. Don't panic. You'll get others panicking. It's not going without being see and heard and dealt with. You know by now they are slow at everything. They will get where they need to. It's not a plot of the bankers to burn us. He will NOT take over the CBI. It is his wishes to take over all of Iraq, but they know and they are fixin to stop him. It just ain't fast enough for us. But really, calm down. It ain't over yet and give them time. They don't look at it like we do. I hope this helps your worried mind.

[thegente]

What makes you think the Rothchilds own the CBI?

http://cbi.iq/documents/CBILAW-EN_f.pdf

See page 11 from the CBI banking law. It explains it pretty clearly.

You are correct that Obama has nothing to do with it.

Google "Rothschilds and Central Banks" and do some research...they own/control nearly every Central Bank on the planet...it's old news. It's not going to be on paper at the CBI....while you're at it, look at the countries that have been invaded in within the last decade, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya...pre-invasion, they all had state-owned banks, but now have Central Banks controlled by the Rothschilds and their partners. There are only 3 countries left on earth that have banks that are independant of this cartel: Iran, South Korea, and Cuba. Do little digging, it's amazing once you connect the dots..

[the wolf]

Google "Rothschilds and Central Banks" and do some research...they own/control nearly every Central Bank on the planet...it's old news. It's not going to be on paper at the CBI....while you're at it, look at the countries that have been invaded in within the last decade, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya...pre-invasion, they all had state-owned banks, but now have Central Banks controlled by the Rothschilds and their partners. There are only 3 countries left on earth that have banks that are independant of this cartel: Iran, South Korea, and Cuba. Do little digging, it's amazing once you connect the dots..

I have researched it quite a bit and a lot more than just a :"google". Have you? The Rothchild in control of Central Banks is a conspiracy. I suppose you think they own our Federal Reserve as well? Any proof of any of it?

[thegente]

I have researched it quite a bit and a lot more than just a :"google". Have you? The Rothchild in control of Central Banks is a conspiracy. I suppose you think they own our Federal Reserve as well? Any proof of any of it?

Yes I have done more than "google" it....I don't have the time to try and convince you otherwise, believe what you wish...I've seen more than enough proof with my own eyes to convince me otherwise. Could care less whether you see it or not...

[armondtoth]

so does that mean +1 job created zero's out the -28,000,000 jobs lost. I don't think so. Its like making your checking account go into the negative by $300 by putting $1 dollar back in does not make the negative go away.

[the wolf]

Yes I have done more than "google" it....I don't have the time to try and convince you otherwise, believe what you wish...I've seen more than enough proof with my own eyes to convince me otherwise. Could care less whether you see it or not...

didn't think you had any proof

[thegente]

didn't think you had any proof

Like I said, there's more than ample proof if you take the time to read up on your own...just because you can't connect the dots and see the big picture, doesn't mean it isn't true. if you wish to continue thru life with blinders on, that's entirely up to you.

[zigmeister]

What makes you so afraid of hearing anything other than a go-RV viewpoint that you resort to this sort of nonsense?

I'm not responsible for your limited imagination. I am in front of a computer a lot (I'm a programmer) so its easy to take a quick look. I was in it for about 11 months, and no I am certain I made a good choice by getting out when I did. The only better choice would have been to not get in, but back then the Koolaid tasted soooo good.

HAHAHAHA! Your a kick you know that? I actually would be surprised you even owned dinar. You probably hang out at Wedding Chat groups, and tell them you were married once, but now your not, and your glad you got out of the whole thing. So you warn them about marriage and receptions, and honeymoons. HAHAHAHA! I bet you do.

[the wolf]

Like I said, there's more than ample proof if you take the time to read up on your own...just because you can't connect the dots and see the big picture, doesn't mean it isn't true. if you wish to continue thru life with blinders on, that's entirely up to you.

So based on your theory of the Rothchild's owning the CBI. Do you think they are going to want to have to pay out Trillions of dollars of their vast fortune to make you and everyone else rich? That doesn't sound like a very good business plan for such a wealthy familiy and there is no way to avoid having to pay that out if there is a 1000x increase in value. Do you know that dinar held by the CBI is not included in their M1 or M2 figures? They only have 60 or 70 billion in reserves so the rest would need to come out of pocket.