February 26, a 17 year old boy was walking home - Trayvon Martin

[divemaster5734]

Thinking about so many on this forum saying they're not racist; well I can believe that, but biased is just as deadly!

Neither is a "protector" of anything or anyone but their own bigoted selves.[/left]

http://deadmenworkin...not-racist.html

I approve this message. Mojack

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While I do completely agree this guy needs to face charges, I hope this does not end any communities involvement in it's own well being.

Neighborhood watches are an excellent way to get to know your neighbor's, and a great way to help curb petty crimes.

I can just see the progressives getting their anti gun speeches ready.

This was an obvious crime, but is NOT indicative of what takes place by thousands of concerned and engaged citizens every single day across America.

What we need are for more people to become active and accept more personal responsibility for their living environment.

No one that knew the shooter can deny the guy has made some pretty outrageous statements in the past,

That will soon come out, along with the "I never thought he could do THAT" statements.

One word... horsesh*t.

As long as we allow other people to control our lives we will have this going on.

Weather it is some waco with illusions of grandeur, or some cop planting evidence to "get a bad guy off the street", to some freaking politicians allowing a power hungry socialist try to change America.

We need to wake up and understand it really is up to us to make a difference.

If there was some other neighbor walking with the waco I doubt he would have been able to justify gunning an innocent down.

[dog53]

Now this is the DV that I know... negatives for the statements above. What was irrational?

@Mongo - I totally agree! I'll also add, a judicial process on Feb 26 would get us closer to actual facts but that chance is blown by not getting forensics.

Mojack you are absolutely right. the crime scene is total screwed up by the way the police handled it. The whole thing was a total fiasco kind of reminds me of the way they handled the O.J Simpson case .Totally screwed things up.

Mongo you are absolutely right the only one that knows what happened is the maker and zimmermon. But we can use some common sense here even though we were not there.

My point is why does there always have to be a point. A kid is dead. Cant bring him back

His killer remains at large. He needs to be incarsarated and let due process of the law see

if this man is giulty or not guilty. And the reality is justice may not be served as in the OJ case the crime scene may be to messed up to make a determination. I guess I just think that this is one of those where everyone loses.

[mojack]

Mojack you are absolutely right. the crime scene is total screwed up by the way the police handled it. The whole thing was a total fiasco kind of reminds me of the way they handled the O.J Simpson case .Totally screwed things up.

Mongo you are absolutely right the only one that knows what happened is the maker and zimmermon. But we can use some common sense here even though we were not there.

My point is why does there always have to be a point. A kid is dead. Cant bring him back

His killer remains at large. He needs to be incarsarated and let due process of the law see

if this man is giulty or not guilty. And the reality is justice may not be served as in the OJ case the crime scene may be to messed up to make a determination. I guess I just think that this is one of those where everyone loses.

Yep!

[stargazer55]

LINK Eye Witness to Incident

Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Updated: Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 6:19 PM EDT

Published : Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 5:47 PM EDT

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.

What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.

The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.

It shows more now about why police believed that night that George Zimmerman shouldn't have gone to jail.

Zimmerman called 911 and told dispatchers he was following a teen. The dispatcher told Zimmerman not to.

And from that moment to the shooting, details are few.

But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman."When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.

It is important that everything is investigated before jumping to conclusions. Remember the Duke case?

[mojack]

LINK Eye Witness to Incident

Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Updated: Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 6:19 PM EDT

Published : Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 5:47 PM EDT

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman."When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

It is important that everything is investigated before jumping to conclusions. Remember the Duke case?

That's not seeing the entire incident or an attack by Martin. That's indicating there was a scuffle after Zimmerman followed and taunted.

Remember, there can no longer be a complete investigation. Police dropped the ball.

[imgesing]

What? lol you do know that the dispatcher ordered him to stop following the kid and he kep following him, also the kid was indeed unarmed and Zimmerman called him a racial slur. This kid seemed like he was scared for his life and that man took it because he looked suspicious give me break. Shame on me, shame on you for thinking this man shouldnt be in prison i do believe in fair justice and try NOt to jump to conclusions but the evidence that is known is clear enough this guy needs to be charged with murder because the young black boy was NOT armed.

WOW you first say one thing and then another. Listen, I am not someone totally informed but... It appears this kid was not like most pictures they are showing of him at age 12 and 13. They dont show that he is over 6' tall and over 200 lbs. He is a BIG KID from what I have been told. The media is using old pics. Secondly the guy who shot him I am told was wrestled to the ground had a gash on the back of his head and cut up a bit. Now that is what I have been told. I seriously believe that IF he hadnt been attacked by the boy and had it been as it appears this guy would be in jail and charged.

I could be totally wrong but there seems to be more to this case than we are being told. I understand the racial tone in this but what if it wasnt racial. Apparently the man who shot him was a great guy and not a racist. He has been helping a black child and his mom for a while. We need to wait for all the facts before we make further conclusions. The media is BUZZING with this and we are all jumping on the wagon of hate. Lets wait and see what the REAL truth is before we throw the shooter in jail or to death. LETS WAIT FOR ALL THE FACTS!

Its like running around saying it RVd it RVd !!!! I am sick of people and BS. And EASYRIDER... Stick to your guns brother. Unless being popular on DV is more important than swimming against the current for what you feel is right. (lol)

As most here can see I dont give a rats what anyone thinks but I do care about honesty and truth. I really care about this world and morals and justice. I have a daughter who I hope can live in a better world.

PEACE ALL... You too EASYRIDER...

[mojack]

WOW you first say one thing and then another. Listen, I am not someone totally informed but... It appears this kid was not like most pictures they are showing of him at age 12 and 13. They dont show that he is over 6' tall and over 200 lbs. He is a BIG KID from what I have been told. The media is using old pics. Secondly the guy who shot him I am told was wrestled to the ground had a gash on the back of his head and cut up a bit. Now that is what I have been told. I seriously believe that IF he hadnt been attacked by the boy and had it been as it appears this guy would be in jail and charged.

I could be totally wrong but there seems to be more to this case than we are being told. I understand the racial tone in this but what if it wasnt racial. Apparently the man who shot him was a great guy and not a racist. He has been helping a black child and his mom for a while. We need to wait for all the facts before we make further conclusions. The media is BUZZING with this and we are all jumping on the wagon of hate. Lets wait and see what the REAL truth is before we throw the shooter in jail or to death. LETS WAIT FOR ALL THE FACTS!

Its like running around saying it RVd it RVd !!!! I am sick of people and BS. And EASYRIDER... Stick to your guns brother. Unless being popular on DV is more important than swimming against the current for what you feel is right. (lol)

As most here can see I dont give a rats what anyone thinks but I do care about honesty and truth. I really care about this world and morals and justice. I have a daughter who I hope can live in a better world.

PEACE ALL... You too EASYRIDER...

The question that need to be answered is where was the justice and the investigation. Forensics find truths, too late.

BTW: reports I saw on Martin 6 feet, 140-160 lbs.

[stargazer55]

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Remember, there can no longer be a complete investigation. Police dropped the ball.

So, you're an expert on investigative techniques, are you? I didn't know that. That changes everything! All right then!!! Let's all get together & form a lynch mob & string the sucker up based upon what the press has released thus far. We all know how accurate, reliable and honest THEY are. Please, grow up.

[imgesing]

The question that need to be answered is where was the justice and the investigation. Forensics find truths, too late.

BTW: reports I saw on Martin 6 feet, 140-160 lbs.

YES that I agree on. I dont know if this guy who shoot him is guilty yet but the media and community os definately leaning very much in that direction.

WE dont have all the facts yet, but you are right... they definately didnt do due diligence in the investigation from what I have heard.

As always peace...

6' - 160 lbs is still not the picture they are showing... right? Just the media sensationalizing this rather than showing the real recent pics and let us see the whole truth.

Thanks for the input....

Edited March 26, 2012 by imgesing

[stargazer55]

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The question that need to be answered is where was the justice and the investigation. Forensics find truths, too late.

No, there was an investigation. The problem was that the results were not what certain people wanted to hear. Forensics find truths too late? Too late for who? The suspect is still around and not going anywhere. If the external investigators find him at fault, he will be brought to justice. If he is vindicated there will still be folks who will cry foul. Remember the Duke rape case? I'm sure you do. Where did you stand on that one? Let me guess.

[mojack]

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So, you're an expert on investigative techniques, are you? I didn't know that. That changes everything! All right then!!! Let's all get together & form a lynch mob & string the sucker up based upon what the press has released thus far. We all know how accurate, reliable and honest THEY are. Please, grow up.

Let's set him free from any wrong doings based on your "self defense" post from the media and your short investigation techniques.

You said: "Please, grow up." Well okay then, Thanks!

I just didn't know an incident of that sort could take place in our society and leave the gun in hand, no arrest and no scientific forensics.... I just didn't know.

Edited March 26, 2012 by mojack

[imgesing]

Let's set him free from any wrong doings based on your "self defense" post from the media and your short investigation techniques.

You said: "Please, grow up." Well okay then, Thanks!

Here is my small view on this.... SINCE THIS CASE HAS GOTTEN FRONT ROW SEATS all the way to the white house, it will find justice.

There will be incredible amounts of man power put on this like no other case similar to it. RIGHT? So, let's sit back and see what happens in the coming days and weeks.

I believe proper justice will be served.

Peace.

[mojack]

YES that I agree on. I dont know if this guy who shoot him is guilty yet but the media and community os definately leaning very much in that direction.

WE dont have all the facts yet, but you are right... they definately didnt do due diligence in the investigation from what I have heard.

As always peace...

6' - 160 lbs is still not the picture they are showing... right? Just the media sensationalizing this rather than showing the real recent pics and let us see the whole truth.

Thanks for the input....

Yep, I can't believe there's not a more recent pic!!! Doesn't look 6 feet in those pics.

Here is my small view on this.... SINCE THIS CASE HAS GOTTEN FRONT ROW SEATS all the way to the white house, it will find justice.

There will be incredible amounts of man power put on this like no other case similar to it. RIGHT? So, let's sit back and see what happens in the coming days and weeks.

I believe proper justice will be served.

Peace.

Agree.

[desimo]

why is it that if a white group was calling for the capture of a suspect of shooting a white teen that it would be called racism and equal to a lynch mob yet there is no condemnation over the black groups that are rallying and chanting for the capture and justice against Zimmerman? Where is equality?

[lawdog32]

why is it that if a white group was calling for the capture of a suspect of shooting a white teen that it would be called racism and equal to a lynch mob yet there is no condemnation over the black groups that are rallying and chanting for the capture and justice against Zimmerman? Where is equality?

Well, to answer your question, a few thoughts pop to mind:

(1) Having some knowledge of our criminal justice system (I am an attorney) it is much more likely that if a black man had shot a white boy on his way home, there would have at the very least been an arrest immediately.

(2) As a white male, I have never one time had someone in my life that I know of, make any comment toward me or at all disrespect me, based solely on the color of my skin. I am not african american, so I cannot speak of an experience I don't have, but I have seen and heard quite a bit of racism over the years directed at others.

(3) In the last 60 years, it hasn't been necessary for me to join a civil rights movement b/c I couldn't sit on a bus or go to school or use a restroom. Granted much of this has been corrected some time ago, but unfortunately, whether people want to admit it or not, I still see quite a bit of racism in our society.

I guess to answer your question, we wouldn't be having the discussion in the first place b/c it would have gone down differently in all likelihood. Again, I am a white male, but have to say I get really tired of hearing the "reverse" racism argument. Is there some, does it exist in some ways, maybe. However, it pales greatly in comparison to the other, "real" racism that exists.

[desimo]

My point simply is that the leaders of the races scream for people to be treated equal. Yet they could not live under their own expectations because they refuse to act equal. If we truly want racism to end and people to be treated equal then let us, media and all sources actually treat people equal. Let us hold ALL people accountable by the same scale.

[40oz]

Actually, he was 17 years old, 6' 3" and weighing 140 pounds, which is hella scrawny.

Edited March 26, 2012 by 40oz

[lawdog32]

My point simply is that the leaders of the races scream for people to be treated equal. Yet they could not live under their own expectations because they refuse to act equal. If we truly want racism to end and people to be treated equal then let us, media and all sources actually treat people equal. Let us hold ALL people accountable by the same scale.

I haven't seen any commentary from anyone close to the situation, or anyone else for that matter on the news, that want anything other than the guy to be arrested. This isn't exactly a lynch mob mentality. Are they mad as heck at the guy, at the system, at the loss of this boy, sure they are. Does this cause some people to act irrationally, yes it probably does. However, do you really believe for one second if the roles were reversed and a white boy was walking home and a black man with a gun pursued him, even after he was told not to, shot the boy, and then the investigators took lab results of the deceased boy, and not the shooter, that the "white" community and every news channel out there wouldn't be giving it just as much coverage? The fact of the matter is it would never come to that b/c it would not have gone down the same way, almost guaranteed. The other question is, how do you suggest "they" act? Should everyone just sit around, like the first two weeks when nothing was done, or should they have their voices heard (like what is happening now), and actually some progress made? I can reasonably assume any parent in this country would be doing anything in their power, including protests and using the media, to try and get to the bottom of what happened.

Edited March 26, 2012 by lawdog32

[willy1der]

Well, to answer your question, a few thoughts pop to mind:

(1) Having some knowledge of our criminal justice system (I am an attorney) it is much more likely that if a black man had shot a white boy on his way home, there would have at the very least been an arrest immediately.

(2) As a white male, I have never one time had someone in my life that I know of, make any comment toward me or at all disrespect me, based solely on the color of my skin. I am not african american, so I cannot speak of an experience I don't have, but I have seen and heard quite a bit of racism over the years directed at others.

(3) In the last 60 years, it hasn't been necessary for me to join a civil rights movement b/c I couldn't sit on a bus or go to school or use a restroom. Granted much of this has been corrected some time ago, but unfortunately, whether people want to admit it or not, I still see quite a bit of racism in our society.

I guess to answer your question, we wouldn't be having the discussion in the first place b/c it would have gone down differently in all likelihood. Again, I am a white male, but have to say I get really tired of hearing the "reverse" racism argument. Is there some, does it exist in some ways, maybe. However, it pales greatly in comparison to the other, "real" racism that exists.

with all due respect racism is racism and it doesn't matter to what extent. Your attitude that reverse discrimination pales compared to the past discrimination/racism troubles me.

People made mistakes and the proper authority not doing their due diligence is a shame but to make a blanket statement that if the shoe was on the other foot basically points the finger at the law and calls them racist, I hope that is not your intent. Your reference to the lynch mob I have to ask if you've seen the new black panthers $10000 bounty for the capture of Mr Zimmerman? One trajedy is enough, lets not let this escalate. the best thing is for the law to pick up Mr Zimmerman and hold him for protection until they have answered more questions and then charge him based upon further investigation, IF that is legally possible.

I personally have been discriminated against, recently when inquiring about a job in more ways then one come to think about it. I have been heckled when I first moved to the south because I'm a "yankee". Even been threatened with physical violence, so sir with all due respect I do know what it's like to be discriminated against, due to being white and my age. Sir you're over-qualified, you mean too old, oh no we would never say that, you don't have to say those exact words, what has been implied is enough. So I will continue to pray for those who mistreated me and I will also pray for both families and know in the end justice shall prevail, for all of us. We need to check our hearts.

[stargazer55]

From a former leo administrator's viewpoint, the mistake that was made here was that the police department didn't call in a higher level law enforcement agency to conduct the investigation from the start (i.e State Police). It should be policy to bring in an outside agency when serious incidents such as this involve a department's own personnel (including neighborhood watch). They could have done everything correctly as far as the investigation is concerned (I don't know that they did) but, by doing it themselves, they've blown away any possible image of fairness or impartiality. The Chief stepping down was the right thing to do but, the damage was already done.

[umbertino]

Well, to answer your question, a few thoughts pop to mind:

(1) Having some knowledge of our criminal justice system (I am an attorney) it is much more likely that if a black man had shot a white boy on his way home, there would have at the very least been an arrest immediately.

(2) As a white male, I have never one time had someone in my life that I know of, make any comment toward me or at all disrespect me, based solely on the color of my skin. I am not african american, so I cannot speak of an experience I don't have, but I have seen and heard quite a bit of racism over the years directed at others.

(3) In the last 60 years, it hasn't been necessary for me to join a civil rights movement b/c I couldn't sit on a bus or go to school or use a restroom. Granted much of this has been corrected some time ago, but unfortunately, whether people want to admit it or not, I still see quite a bit of racism in our society.

I guess to answer your question, we wouldn't be having the discussion in the first place b/c it would have gone down differently in all likelihood. Again, I am a white male, but have to say I get really tired of hearing the "reverse" racism argument. Is there some, does it exist in some ways, maybe. However, it pales greatly in comparison to the other, "real" racism that exists.

Thank you.

[detroitjazzman]

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So, you're an expert on investigative techniques, are you? I didn't know that. That changes everything! All right then!!! Let's all get together & form a lynch mob & string the sucker up based upon what the press has released thus far. We all know how accurate, reliable and honest THEY are. Please, grow up.

I don't think you have to be an investigator to know......If you don't gather information at the time of the crime.....how do you go back and get it!....just saying

[mojack]

Well, to answer your question, a few thoughts pop to mind:

(1) Having some knowledge of our criminal justice system (I am an attorney) it is much more likely that if a black man had shot a white boy on his way home, there would have at the very least been an arrest immediately.

(2) As a white male, I have never one time had someone in my life that I know of, make any comment toward me or at all disrespect me, based solely on the color of my skin. I am not african american, so I cannot speak of an experience I don't have, but I have seen and heard quite a bit of racism over the years directed at others.

(3) In the last 60 years, it hasn't been necessary for me to join a civil rights movement b/c I couldn't sit on a bus or go to school or use a restroom. Granted much of this has been corrected some time ago, but unfortunately, whether people want to admit it or not, I still see quite a bit of racism in our society.

I guess to answer your question, we wouldn't be having the discussion in the first place b/c it would have gone down differently in all likelihood. Again, I am a white male, but have to say I get really tired of hearing the "reverse" racism argument. Is there some, does it exist in some ways, maybe. However, it pales greatly in comparison to the other, "real" racism that exists.

VERY well stated in an impartial manner. Great Post LawDog.

[krome2ez]

Zimmerman should be tried for first-degree murder.

Neither is a "protector" of anything or anyone but their own bigoted selves.[/left]

http://deadmenworkin...not-racist.html

I approve this message. Mojack

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Very tragic.

But let's not jump to conclusions.

I for one, am not going to make-up my mind till all the information is in.

New witness says George Zimmerman was not aggressor in Trayvon Martin shooting

SANFORD, Florida (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) – An alleged new witness to the Trayvon Martin shooting in Sanford, Florida, told media Saturday that it was Trayvon who attacked neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, not the other way around.

The shooting death of Trayvon Martin has spurred national and international controversy over whether this was a racially incited incident. Zimmerman has been at the height of the controversy.

Martin’s death has resulted in the stepping down of several Sanford officials, including the Chief of Police; has created an immense amount of tension and pressure to the town of Sanford and its officials; has led to public outcry around the world; and has led to an outside investigation by the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI.

To date, Zimmerman has not been arrested. Sanford Police say he claimed self-defense and, at the time of their investigation, they had nothing to disprove his claim. The public and experts believe they have plenty of probable cause for an arrest, yet the man is still free.

The desire for Zimmerman to be arrested and brought to justice continues to escalate. The New Black Panther group has put out a bounty on Zimmerman, offering a $10,000 reward for his capture, “Dead or alive.”

New witness, "John," comes forward in Zimmerman's defense

Zimmerman has been publicly denigrated to the point that this new alleged witness, who wants to be known only as “John,” is risking coming forward to his defense. He didn't want to be shown on camera.

According to Tampa Bay Fox affiliate WTVT-TV, “John” said:

“The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: ‘help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911.

“When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."

The Tampa Bay Fox report states that Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red, and that his statements to police were instrumental because police backed up Zimmerman’s claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

Trayvon's parents say the screams for help are those of their son. Trayvon's mother said a mom knows her baby's voice.

The Blaze reports that John’s statements could bolster Zimmerman’s claim that he shot Martin in self-defense.

Zimmerman's 911 call

The 911 call Zimmerman made moments before he shot and killed Trayvon was released to the public.

During the call, the 911 dispatcher asks Zimmerman if he's following Trayvon. Zimmerman said, "Yeah."

The dispatcher immediately said, "OK. We don't need you to do that."

Trayvon's girlfriend said at the same time Zimmerman was on the phone to 911, Trayvon and she were talking on their cellphones. She said Trayvon told her he was being followed and that he was scared.

She told him to run, he thought better of it. At some point he decided to run from Zimmerman. The girlfriend says he thought he'd gotten away from him, only to run into Zimmerman again.

She said at that point it sounded like Trayvon's ear piece hit the ground and the phone went dead. He didn't answer when she tried calling him back. Within moments Trayvon was dead.

Some say they hear Zimmerman uttering a racial slur under his breath during the 911 call, some say they don't. Read CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin's explanation of why the use of a racial slur is critical in this case

CNN decided to remove some of the background noise in their studios to see if they could hear the alleged comment made under Zimmerman’s breath: "F-ing coons."

Click here to listen to CNN’s edited frame [at 1:17]

Click here to read the transcript of the 911 call

Zimmerman’s attorney, Craig Sonner, appeared on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360” and admitted he had not met with his client face-to-face, had not listened to the 911 calls, and had not spoken with his client about the details of the shooting.

He did, however, say his client sustained a broken nose and an injury to the back of his head. He said his client should have had stitches but that when he arrived at the hospital, they concluded the wound had begun healing and stitches were not recommended. Sonner also said Zimmerman is not a racist. Click here for more details.

Many people who have listened to the 911 tapes, heard Sonner’s interview with Anderson Cooper, and reviewed details on this case, have concluded Zimmerman was the aggressor, not Trayvon as the new witness alleges. What do you think? Your comments are welcome below.

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George Zimmerman's 911 call transcribed

SANFORD, Florida (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) -- Moments before 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed by 28-year-old self-proclaimed neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, Zimmerman made a call to 911 which is transcribed below.

The 911 call was one of Zimmerman's nearly 50 calls in the past year wherein he reported a suspicious black male in his neighborhood. There have been reports of numerous burglaries in the neighborhood.

Trayvon Martin's father, Tracy Martin, also lives in the gated Sanford, Florida neighborhood where his son was shot and killed while walking home from a local convenience store.

Zimmerman:

We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

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911 dispatcher:

OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman:

He looks black.

911 dispatcher:

Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]

911 dispatcher:

He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.

Zimmerman:

Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]

911 dispatcher:

OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?

Zimmerman:

That’s the clubhouse.

911 dispatcher:

He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

911 dispatcher:

How old would you say he is?

Zimmerman:

He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.

911 dispatcher:

Late teens?

Zimmerman:

Uh, huh.

Something’s wrong with him. Yep, he’s coming to check me out.

He’s got something in his hands. I don’t know what his deal is. [01:20]

911 dispatcher:

Let me know if he does anything, OK?

Zimmerman:

OK.

911 dispatcher:

We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman:

OK.

These assholes. They always get away.

When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]

911 dispatcher:

OK, so it’s on the left hand side of the clubhouse?

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

He’s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[it sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ‘F-ing coons’ at 2:22]

NOTE:

[Listen here at 1:17 for CNN's edited frame]

[Read CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin's explanation of why the use of a racial slur is critical in this case.]

911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, what’s your last name?

Zimmerman:

Zimmerman.

911 dispatcher:

What’s the phone number you’re calling from?

Zimmerman:

407-435-2400

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman:

Yeah.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman:

Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]

Zimmerman:

Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, yeah, I live here.

911 dispatcher:

OK, what’s your apartment number?

Zimmerman:

It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]

Zimmerman:

Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …

Zimmerman:

Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]

911 dispatcher:

OK, that’s no problem.

Zimmerman:

My number … you’ve got it?

911 dispatcher:

Yeah, I’ve got it. 435-2400?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, you got it.

911 dispatcher:

OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]

Zimmerman:

Thanks.

911 dispatcher:

You’re welcome.

Call ends 4:07

Above was a transcription of Zimmerman's call to 911 moments before he shot and killed Trayvon Martin. It was transcribed to the best of the transcriber's abilities, and is not meant to replace any official transcript of the call.

You can listen to the call here from 0:01 to 4:07.

On February 26, 2012, Trayvon Martin, 17, was walking home from a convenience store after purchasing an Arizona iced tea and Skittles. Moments later he was lying dead on the ground, shot to death by volunteer neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman, 28.

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And on a similar note.

Where's the outrage on this story?

UPDATE: Mississippi State officials reassure public campus is safe after fatal shooting

by Daily Journal, wire reports Djournal.Com

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Mississippi State University president Mark Keenum comments about the Saturday night shooting death of 21-year-old John Sanderson of Madison, Miss., at a university dormitory, during a news conference Sunday. (AP Photo/The Reflector, Eric Evans) slideshow

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Mississippi State University President Mark Keenum, left, addresses the Saturday night shooting death of MSU student John D. Sanderson, 21, of Madison, in a dorm room at Evans Hall on the Starkville, Miss., campus, Sunday, March 25, 2012. Joining Keenum at the briefing were, from right, MSU Vice President for Student Affairs Bill Kibler, MSU Campus Police Chief Georgia Lindley, and MSU Campus Police Detective Brad Massey. Keenum said Lindley and her investigators had identified a person of interest in the shooting and recovered a weapon believed to have been used in the shooting. (AP Photo/The Starkville Daily News, Leilani Salterslideshow

Mississippi State University Vice President for Student Affairs Bill Kibler, left, and MSU Campus Police Chief Georgia Lindley, right, speak at a news conference Sunday, March 25, 2012, in Starkville, Miss., about the shooting death of MSU student John D. Sanderson, 21, of Madison, on Saturday night. The shooting took place in a dorm room in Evans Hall. Kibler said Lindley and her investigators had identified a person of interest in the shooting and recovered a weapon believed to have been used in the shooting. (AP Photo/The Starkville Daily News, Leilani Salter)slideshow

Mississippi State University Police officers gather outside Evans Hall dormitory at the Starkville, Miss., campus, Saturday night, March 24, 2012, as they investigate the shooting death of MSU student John D. Sanderson, 21, of Madison. (AP Photo/The Reflector, Micah Green)slideshow

Mississippi State University Police officers gather outside Evans Hall dormitory at the Starkville, Miss., campus, Saturday night, March 24, 2012. They are investigating the shooting death of MSU student John D. Sanderson, 21, of Madison. The shooting took place in a dorm room in the all-male dorm. (AP Photo/The Reflector, Micah Green) slideshow STARKVILLE - Mississippi State officials moved quickly to reassure the public about the safety of the school's campus after a student was shot to death in a dormitory late Saturday.

It was said to be the first on-campus shooting death in school history.

John Sanderson, 21, of Madison, was pronounced dead Saturday night after treatment at Oktibbeha County Hospital. He was shot inside Evans Hall shortly before 10 p.m, and declared dead at about 11:03 p.m.

Described as a first-semester transfer, Sanderson was shot multiple times outside a dorm room.

Bill Kibler, vice president of student affairs, said "a person of interest" had been identified and that a gun was recovered on campus after the shooting.

Three black males were seen fleeing from the building, driving away in a blue Crown Victoria. School officials said the three were not thought to be current MSU students.

The men still were being sought on Sunday, with reports that they may have been headed to the Jackson area.

"This is the first time in our school's history that such a tragic incident has occurred, involving a student being shot on campus," University president Mark Keenum said Sunday in a statement posted on the school's website. He and other school officials appeared at a 10 a.m. news conference to discuss the incident.

"Our campus is known as a safe place, and I want to assure students, parents, faculty and staff that it continues to be safe," Keenum said. "We have had no indication that there is a danger to others and we believe this was an isolated incident."

A moment of silence for Sanderson was observed Sunday afternoon before the start of the Mississippi State-Arkansas baseball game.

Police received a call about the shooting at Evans Hall at 9:54 p.m. Saturday. "The MSU Police Department was on the scene within one minute of receiving the emergency call," Keenum said.

Shortly after the shooting - at 10:33 p.m. - the university sent the first in a series of text message alerts to students. Police officers also stepped up patrols to make sure the campus was safe, Keenum said.

The four-story Evans Hall, a suite-style dorm for male freshmen and underclassmen, holds about 300 residents and is located on the north side of campus.

The other students on the first floor, where the shooting occurred, have been relocated to other dorms, Kibler said.

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Statement by Governor Phil Bryant on the death of two Mississippi College Students.

JACKSON – Gov. Phil Bryant issued the following statement regarding the deaths of two college students in Mississippi.

“Deborah and I were saddened to learn that Mississippi lost two college students this weekend. I have spoken today with President Meyers, President Keenum and Institutions of Higher Learning Commissioner Bounds. I instructed Department of Public Safety Commissioner Albert Santa Cruz to provide assistance to all law enforcement entities involved. Those perpetuating these crimes will be apprehended and held accountable. Mississippi does not take these instances lightly, and rest assured, we will continue to provide a safe learning environment for students at all our Mississippi College and University campuses.”

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Statement from IHL Commissioner on recent tragedies:

“The unfulfilled promise of a young person’s life cut short is always heartbreaking. We were reminded of this last night with the deaths of a Jackson State University student and a Mississippi State University student. These are both senseless tragedies and our sympathies go out to each of their families. Despite these tragic occurrences, our university campuses are very safe, with many precautions taken and systems in place to protect students. Mississippi State University’s extensive crisis planning was evident in their swift action and communication to students and the university community through the Maroon Alert system. Both Jackson State University and Mississippi State University have counseling centers and other resources available to students to help them. University officials continue to work with law enforcement officials to solve the crimes.”

-Dr. Hank M. Bounds

Commissioner of Higher Education

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Oktibbeha County Coroner Michael Hunt said Sanderson’s death was ruled a homicide and an autopsy is scheduled for 8:30 a.m. Monday, the Starkville Daily News reports.

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STARKVILLE, Miss. (AP) — A 21-year-old student was shot to death in a Mississippi State University dormitory, though the killing appears to be isolated and there is no indication others may be in danger, officials said Sunday.

University president Mark Keenum said Sunday in a statement on the school's website that the killing of 21-year-old John Sanderson of Madison, Miss., was the first time a student had been shot on the campus. Keenum said officials could reveal few other details because of the ongoing investigation.

University spokeswoman Maridith Geuder said police received a call about the shooting at Evans Hall around 10 p.m. Saturday. Sanderson was taken to Oktibbeha County Hospital, where he died.

Three male suspects fled the building in a blue Crown Victoria. No arrests have been made.

Shortly after the shooting, the university began sending a series of text message alerts to students. Police officers stepped up patrols to make sure the campus was safe, Keenum said.

The four-story Evans Hall holds about 300 male students and is located on the north side of campus.

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Click here for resources for students and parents after MSU shooting from Mississippi State.

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Dr. Mark Keenum comments on Sat. night shooting

March 25, 2012

We are here today to discuss a tragic event that occurred on our campus last night. But because of the ongoing investigation, we are limited in what we can share with you today. However, here are the facts as we know them this morning:

At approximately 10 p.m., last night campus police received notification of an incident in Evans Hall, a male residence hall, and responded immediately. The MSU Police Department was on the scene within one minute of receiving the emergency call. They found a male student with what appeared to be serious injuries; he was transported to Oktibbeha County Hospital for treatment, but unfortunately could not be saved. He has been identified as John Sanderson, age 21, of Madison, Mississippi.

This is the first time in our school's history that such a tragic incident has occurred, involving a student being shot on campus. Our campus is known as a safe place, and I want to assure students, parents, faculty, and staff that it continues to be safe. Safety is paramount at all times, and we have emergency response plans in place to maintain the safest environment possible. These procedures were executed quickly and effectively last night.

Our campus Crisis Action Team was convened immediately and began monitoring developments and coordinating response. Our police department stepped up patrols, assisted by officers from the City of Starkville and the Oktibbeha County Sheriff's office. Throughout the night and into this morning, we have kept the campus informed of developments through our Maroon Alert emergency notification system. But we have had no indication that there is a danger to others and we believe this was an isolated incident. We go to great lengths to address safety issues on our campus.

Our Bulldog Family is saddened by this event and the loss of one of our students. Our hearts go out to John Sanderson's family and friends. They continue to be in our prayers.

Our university police department is leading the investigation, working closely with Starkville Police, Oktibbeha County Sheriff's Office, and the Mississippi Highway Patrol. They are actively following all leads. We appreciate their hard work and their support. I also want to reiterate to parents and students that our top priority is always the safety and well-being of our campus and all who inhabit it.

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UPDATE 10:06 a.m. - From Twitter at Press Conference on campus ...

@StarkvilleDaily: MSU President Mark Keenum identifies deceased as John Sanderson, 21, of Madison.

@reflectoronline: The victim was declared deceased around 11:03. A weapon has been found on campus. Campus is not under emergency conditions.

@reflectoronline: Keenum: MSU PD believes this is an isolated incident. They do not believe there is a danger to campus.

@StarkvilleDaily: Bill Kibler, vice president of student affairs at MSU: Weapon found on campus, person of interest identified.

@StarkvilleDaily: Kibler: It is believed perpetrators fled the area immediately after the incident.

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UPDATE 9 a.m. - According to Mississippi State Maroon Alert parents of victim have been notified. Police believe the three suspects are not MSU students, university spokeswoman Maridith Geuder told the Clarion-Ledger Sunday morning. Dr. Mark Keenum, Mississippi State University president, will release a statement at 10 a.m.

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One student is confirmed dead in a Saturday night shooting at Mississippi State University's Evans Hall, an all-male dormatory.

University spokeswoman Maridith Geuder said police received a call about the shooting around 10 p.m. Saturday. The victim was taken to Oktibbeha County Hospital, where he subsequently died.

The first public report of the incident came at 10:33 p.m. through the university's Maroon Alert text-messaging system. The fatality was confirmed by text about 45 minutes later.

Three suspects were being sought after having been seen fleeing Evans Hall in a late-model blue Crown Victoria.

The university confirmed that the person reported to be dead was a male MSU student. It was not immediately clear if that student was a resident of Evans Hall.

The name of the victim was not released Saturday night, pending the notification of family. A news briefing about the incident is planned on campus at 10 a.m. Sunday.

According to media reports, the victim was shot multiple times.

Hours after the initial alert, the campus continued to be "operating under emergency conditions," according to the school's website. At 12:43 a.m., it was reported by text alert that "Suspects still at large."

The four-story Evans Hall, open to freshmen and upperclassmen, holds about 300 students and is located on the northwest side of the Starkville campus.

MSU sent out these Maroon Alerts to students, faculty, staff, etc., as the situation developed.

Here are the alerts:

3/25/12 12:43 am

Suspects still at large. The investigation is ongoing.

3/24/12 11:17 pm

Confirmed shooting at Evans Hall. Victim deceased. Suspects still at large.

3/24/12 10:57 pm

Suspects 3 black males fled Evans Hall in late model blue Crown Victoria.

3/24/12 10:38 pm

Report of a person stabbed or shot at Evans Hall. Perpetrator is still at large.

3/24/12 10:33 pm

Reported stabbing or shooting on campus at Evans Hall

A MSU official said the school could not release any more information at this time and said the case is under investigation.

Read more: djournal.com - UPDATE: Identity of shooting victim at Mississippi State released

Edited March 26, 2012 by krome2ez

[mojack]

with all due respect racism is racism and it doesn't matter to what extent. Your attitude that reverse discrimination pales compared to the past discrimination/racism troubles me.

People made mistakes and the proper authority not doing their due diligence is a shame but to make a blanket statement that if the shoe was on the other foot basically points the finger at the law and calls them racist, I hope that is not your intent. Your reference to the lynch mob I have to ask if you've seen the new black panthers $10000 bounty for the capture of Mr Zimmerman? One trajedy is enough, lets not let this escalate. the best thing is for the law to pick up Mr Zimmerman and hold him for protection until they have answered more questions and then charge him based upon further investigation, IF that is legally possible.

Willy you make these "what ifs" all the time and now you're critical of LawDog. Doesn't make sense! Let it go...