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I am sure people realize by not that Luigi is posting this stuff to ruffle feathers. From his past, we know he doesn't believe it any more than the next person. It's a complete ploy to annoy the rest of us on DV. We should collectively STOP opening any posts by him as they are a "joke" to him & his goal is to be sarcastic and spin people up. Clearly, he has nothing better to do with his life. I am not even going to click on any of these posts by him as they are garbage. If I wanted to read any more of this trash-I'd go to a page that Recaps the Guru-Garbage. Maybe if we discontinue egging him on...he will move on to something more productive in his life. Getting a rise out of people on DV is a shame. It has caused me to stop even checking this site. We used to have decent rumors and conversations. Now all rumors are his garbage brought over and missing part of the original rumor anyway. Stop perpetuating the troll on this respectable site. I think we are close and I don't believe it will be over a dollar. We shall see. Keep in mind what I said above. I know everyone here is beyond annoyed. Responding to the garbage keeps it coming. Stay grounded friends. It will happen eventually, and sooner than later I believe! Blessings, RED EXACTLY, LMAO!!!!

Flatbush Zombie, Is his person out of Oklahoma City? Saw at the beginning it said OKC, OK. Maybe Okies cousin. Thanks for the share, Easy.

Now THAT is more within the vernacular style of Okie. You know, "Ships Sailing" and schnit. And the infamous "Nuff Said." I noticed he became particularly silent right after the BH Group went down and the long list of people included in the class action lawsuit was laid out. Think he and his cohorts thought he ought to keep his mouth shut for awhile. Looks like someone took the duck tape off. Darn. thanks for the giggles Rayzur, To those who get their undies in a knot over Okies posts being brought over here.....it's the RUMOR section and clearly stated within the title is th name/word, "OKIE;" so you knew what you were gonna get. Next time don't click and move along. When I'm in no mood for BS I hang in the facts forum and wouldn't dare open a post from someone I loathed, chillax. Nuff said. Ha.

Maybe demand is low? I remember reading that before this would happen, people would be to the point of burning their dinar. Maybe moral is down and people aren't buying.....OR maybe people are getting in those Christmas Credit Card bills....ouch. Or maybe people who have enough, have enough and aren't buying any more and if they've told any of their friends about it....their friends aren't investing, because, well.....ya know. Also, in regards to these companies saying they ar doing this or that.... Last I heard, a particular Dinar Company was opening in ALL 50 States! Wow. No. Pure pumping is what I will call that until I see it. I remember the first thing that popped in my head when I read the email stating they were "excited to announce their plans to open in all 50 States." I thought, "They must know! it's about to pop, baby!" Then I came back to earth and went pure logic, no emotion....why would they waste the millions of dollars to do that when they can keep shipping from where they are now? They are Pumping you for sales, IMHO.

Starring Jason Statham as the heist leader/coordinator and Liam Neeson who had to go on the "take" to save his family. Just an idea.

Well, thanks dog! It turns my stomach especially because my daughter is 6. Its senseless. But that type of firepower should be met with equal or far greater fire power. My mother is a teacher in Ft. hood and they've already implemented new rules. Locked doors. Yeah. Because I could kick one in or blow the lock off in a heartbeat. Ugh. I have been brainstorming and can't think of anything else. Anyone?

I would think that most cities could impose a tiny safety tax...just cents....that would provide armed guards in these schools. I would volunteer in a heartbeat. No pay necessary. I went shooting yesterday, yes I am a female. More and more women are arming themselves these days. Yesterday, I took my sister and shot a Walther P22, .22 LR SIG Sauer P226, 9mmTaurus Model 85, .38 Special Smith and Wesson Model 686, .357 Magnum & Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22. .22 LR and a Govt. Issued model 1911 .45 ACP. In these gun-free zones there are mass shootings. I'll tell you what, I went to my daughters assembly last Thursday and thought to myself, "here are a thousand children....wide open....no protection." I walked in no problem. So did any other parent or whomever. I also walked in, illegally, yes, with concealed firepower and positioned myself in an area to where I could just "maybe" be a "guardian" if need be. I scanned an analyzed body language, dress, etc. I shoot many, many times a week and I would have no moral problem, as most of you, dropping a mass shooter. Felt better my husband was there this time....military and a detective, former SWAT....but he doesn't know I shoot. He can't, its complicated. But if things went haywire, I would join him in taking out the shooter if need be. I also know, that, not just because of what I do for a living, that NO District Attorney would bring charges forth on a person taking out a shooter. I have spoken to some teachers....some retired, that concealed and carried at their schools. They are/were guardians. The tricky part is no collateral damage. It is sad that it has come to this....that we have to protect our children in schools. There is no way to reverse the gun culture we live in. There is no disarming the citizens if they wanted to. Its far too late. Fire power should be met with greater fire power. And so I do think there should be a select number of trained teachers with guns and school guardians. I don't know a parent who would disagree. A shooter may get off a few shots but when the first one goes off...the teachers jump into action. Maybe the local police departments wouldn't mind highly training several teachers, as well, after stringent background and psychological tests, of course. Just kind of brain storming. How to stop this. Millions of gun owners behaved well that day. It was the one that wasn't at all a gun owner that caused such a tragic event. God rest their souls. Sorry if I rambled off topic. Just thinking out loud, so to say. And Dog, I got a visual. The crapper. Hahaha! That's funny. This will unfortunately happen again in the next year and we will be asking ourselves why and what to do. Well. I think its bloody time to take some action.

Perhaps it's their own special way of pumping! What wouldn't get someone more excited than news that a major dinar dealer is opening I'm 50 states!? It makes the average person think they are doing it because it's about to pop and they want us to all be able to cash out with them, within a decent drive! My guess is....they are NOT opening in 50states. Whats in it for them? They do just fine shipping from their location now. (unless it is about to pop then maybe it's worth it) I mean, can you imagine the licensing fees and overhead/cost, to open THAT many? I'm calling BS. Pure pumping at its finest. JMHO

Now THAT is interesting. However, I am not buying the "actor" theory. I am buying that 20 innocent children & 6 innocent adults are, in fact, deceased. Whether it was set up as a way for our guns to be taken? That will take a lot of time and research. That video I just watched..... its hard to believe it is a coincidence. I know only that these people are truly dead. And it breaks my heart. I can't say I know for sure who is responsible for the actions that took those lives, other than what was reported. But I don't buy into the idea that all these people are "actors." False Flag Ops have been around forever. I do know that. But I simply don't buy that all these funerals are fake and greif stricken families are all actors too. At all. In a town that small....everyone knows everyone.....where did the real students go? There's other questions raised when you throw around an "actor" theory. Let us know what u come up with. Or don't. I can't believe I am wasting my time responding to such nonsense. No Normalcy Bias here. How about Occam's Razor. And I hardly ever go that route. But let's start there. None if those actor theories and pics are convincing me....and probably many others.

I visited this site. And Pope Benedict XVI is non other than actor Robert Blake!? What a friggin joke. Oh....and Morgan Freeman is Jimmy Hendrix...because Jimi Hendrix never died either. And Ive been accused of wearing a tin foil hat! Ha! Not a very good site to back up your non-sense. And did you ever think there could have been several people initially detained because no one really knew if there was more than one shooter? Jeez....you are really, really reaching man.

I get the false flag stuff. Happens all the time. But seriously, sure, " wearing sissy's dress!? Lol..." ummm, yeah. Seriously. My daughter and her cousins have matching dresses and are about the same size and my niece wears my daughters dresses all the time. Yes. The media lies. Yes. Wheres the outrage of Fast and Furious. And I am no sheep going to be led off a cliff. Just give it a rest for now. I think this is too soon and gut wrenching for the families who really "did" lose their children. Could it have been a false flag like the no-go Op Northwoods, or 9-11 or theatre? Sure, but bottom line is....these babies died. Truly, they are dead. Now who did it is up for question as seen in the posted videos. I have no doubt these families lost their children. You think they'd all keep quiet and not say, "no....it's a lie, my child is alive!" Reality check. I have a distant relative who was a first responder. Those babies were murdered. Promise.

Maybe she is wearing her sisters dress....if the family photo shows Emilie in that dress. But I don't that's Emilie, the daughter u r referring to in the family photo. And again, if it is Emilie in the family photo, maybe her sister wanted to wear her sissy's dress. What's wrong with you? It's been less than a week. Have some respect. You really think if this were a false flag op that they'd be dumb enough to PHOTOGRAPH HER IN A WIDELY PUBLICIZED PHOT WITH THE PRESIDENT!? Duh! I don't trust our government but get ahold of yourself. My husband goes on dead body calls all the time. You'd be surprised at their reactions while speaking with police. Many don't appear to be too upset. Either way--get ahold of yourself and show respect. There were 20 babies murdered that day. You think that could be kept quiet by the parents if they were really alive? Come on! I am thoroughly disgusted; your name suits you well. May God bless Sandy Hook....

My thoughts exactly, (see above), if the teachers had guns, when the shots rang out, protocol of locking the children In the room would have been followed by every trained teacher carefully entering the fire-zone-- and then you're looking at 1 gunman whom may kill a few but an overwhelming number of armed adults ready to shoot to kill to defend their kids, they spend everyday with. I don't know this is the answer....my husband has fired thousands of rounds and to get a license it only takes 50 shots. So maybe they are more highly trained? He asked me if I could see my mom, (a 1st grade teacher) packing and taking out a gunman...I said your damned right she would. She would lay down her life for her kids. But taken the amount of overwhelming fire power, on the other side, or the mere knowledge of, it could be a deterrent. I don't know the answer. Just thinking that if a gunman knew he'd be met with critical fire-power...he might think twice or else, end up dead in the hallway. Fewer casualties for sure.

We choose to live in a gun culture. Is there a positive correlation between the number of guns in a country and gun violence, sure. Of course! But here's the deal. How many millions of people acted responsively with their guns that day? I did. You did. It was 1 person. If we are going to have guns we are going to have to stomach the chance that this can happen. But it's rare in comparison to the number of guns we have. Ive saved my life with a gun. I didn't pull the trigger, but he retreated. We need to realize that with this right comes great responsibility and sometimes great tragedy. If we are going to be a country full of guns, then we have to accept the fact that these tragedies will occur. It is what it is. The odds are small of you or your child being involved in a mass shooting. Yesterday, in Pakistan, 17 women and children were blown up. There is violence everywhere. People will find a way to kill, guns or not. It's evil and/or mental illness that hits a breaking point. It's awful. I can't even turn on the news or read the papers because I have a 6 year old and it breaks my heart. Listen very carefully to what O said in his speech last night. Make your decisions for your safety carefully. My husband has put a lot of people in prison, so there is a gun, well hidden, and not in reach of my child that I could grab if one of these people gets out and wants revenge. I've got that revenge-stop in my hand. Don't forget what great responsibility comes with the ownership of gun(s). God bless the little ones who are spending Christmas with Jesus, the Brave adults, first reponders, and their families. My prayers go out to all.

Oops. Double posted that. Dunno how. Sorry. And I meant to say that ' they will be spending Christmas with Jesus this year."

My daughter is 6 and I can't imagine. Coincidentally, I was on the way to the gun range to shoot my P22 and my new .38 revolver, when I heard he news on talk radio. I burst into tears and pictured what I would do if I could, in a situation like that.....and I blew the hell out of those targets.....spinal cord shots, heart shots and between the eyes...almost every time. My husband is a detective and I've had a friend murdered. I know the police come after the crime has been committed...not typically while in progress. I know that if anyone threatened the life of my family or me...well....it's not going to be me. I will pump them so full of lead....until the threat has stopped. Exactly what the cops are trained to do. So if he's alive-he's a threat. If my husband doesn't get to him first....I will. And since he was 13 years SWAT he may get there first, but I'll be right behind him in case he takes one. Tag team him. If we get rid of all guns...the good law abiding citizens would give them up but who would be left with the guns? The thugs and killers and criminals. Sad, sad world we live in. If anything happened to my daughter, I could not go on. My heart and prayers go out to the families of all that were lost. They will be spending Christmas with Jesus this year. Bless their souls. God bless their families in this time of terrible senseless tragedy. I am tearing up again. I can write no more. Just keep praying.

Congrats to you! You should be so very proud of yourself, love! I knew the only way I would quit is if I promised my daughter. She lost her daddy a year ago on December 19th. She was only 5. I couldn't bear the thought of her losing me to something I had done to myself, maybe 20-30 years from now. Totally not fair to her. Or my husband....I held his mothers hand as she died from Lung Cancer. We found out in July and she passed on in September. It was quick and devastating. Plus the 3rd hand smoke my family was getting off my clothes...yes, there is 3rd hand smoke. No sheit. So I pinky swore her that mommy would quit before I was 29 and a half. 9 weeks later and still smoke free. I have an open pack of cigarettes in my console I can look at and say, "I beat you!" Anyway, sorry to turn that about me. I just wanted others to know it is so possible! And how proud I am of YOU! Great job!

Ive spoken with some congressmen. One is a congresswoman whom I know. I was told, if their office receives a mere TWENTY-FIVE calls on one issue in one day....they definitely take note and actually pay attention and may even try to do something. Unless their coffers are filled with money from lobbyists and donors....then it's about useless. BUT...if everyone called. If everyone who agreed with this called their reps...perhaps there would be some looking into this and more importantly, something done about it. Good luck!

I live near the University Of Oklahoma and got gas in OKC today for $2.93. Lovin' it. Realize how lucky we are here in Oklahoma, when I talk to family up North or out West paying out the are for gasoline.

I just today, bought a Taurus .38 Stainless Steel Revolver. I need a smaller gun to carry. Here's the deal, I do understand both sides of the argument. However, as a survivor of a brutal rape, I will never be without protection again. You only call the police after the crime has been committed. The man who attacked me got off on a major police screw up. The DA told me to sue the city. It was THAT bad of a screw up. Thank you detective Stephen Lucas of the Norman, OK police Dept. (now he works for the sherrifs dept. He's as big as a house and shouldn't be allowed on any force with that kind of health/body fat. Anyway.... After me, he attacked another girl. She killed herself. He's still free...walking around preying on women. If I had my gun that night I would have filled him full of lead. This man tried to kill me and Id known him for years. I had no weapons..none on me. But I can tell you this: I wont be a survivor of another crime...a crime that took me the last 10 years to overcome and want to live again. I will protect myself, aim for center mass and keep shooting, whether it's my Glock 9, my Ruger or my new Revolver. And yes, had I had a gun on me that fateful night-- I had the opportunity...I could have blown him away like he deserved, spared myself 10 years of intense fear,etc,etc,etc, and saved the life of the 18 year old girl he got after me, and the probably dozen or more after her. Guns can kill...but its people who have to pull the trigger. I have no problem doing it if my or my familys life is in danger.

Sorry to hear about your bad times. Many are having financial trouble and many who haven't previously, will. I just wanted to let you know, that I understand you are trying to make as much back as you can, but there is a reputable site I buy from, offering the same for $20/more. I am sure the price will rise again so if you can hold off a little longer, you may get what you're asking...if not, you may have to come down a bit. Do you have a cert. Of authenticity...and who did you purchase from? That might help to have that info out there. Just thought Id let you know. Good luck, love and hang in there. I'll be thinking of you during your rough times. Take care, Red

Great post! Exactly right in practicing of pulling weapon. Its like you described. Great info for all, thank you!

As the wife of a husband who has spent 25 years on as a Detective, SWAT, Running undercover Narcotics Ops, working with DEA, FBI JTT (joint Terrorism Task Force), S.Service Detail, and is Navy Captian, I would advise against this method of shooting. In a moment of intense anxiety and the high probability the intruder is moving, and possibly toward you--DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SHOOT LEGS ARMS OR ANYOTHER PART OF THE BODY. You are quite likely to miss. Leaving you.... In more danger. I only know this after asking why they don't shoot legs or othe parts of the body, (ie: why do they have to kill people). Cops are trained to shoot "Until the threat Is no longer an active threat." So they aim for center mass. Chest. Stomach. Not flying and moving limbs. (my husband told me that many times up to and sometimes over half of the bullets coming from police guns don't hit the active target. Scary huh? And they are trained and qualified over and over and over. You are liable to end up dead yourself. SWAT, especially in highly volatile situations including hostages and especially when subject has a weapon. Kill shot. Through either side of the back of the neck or straight through the nose or front of the neck. It's a dead drop. No reflexes. It is literally a shot and they drop. They have no reflexive action. That part of the brain has been severed. As to the original post-- my husband was called out a few nights ago on one of these, the cops aren't out to effing put you in jail for shooting an intruder. They are there to make sure what happened, is what happened. And truth be told, they are quite often glad the intruder was taken out, as people don't typically start their criminal career in this fashion. They have very lengthy records. In their eyes, you did them a favor, less the paper work that follows. Believe you me, when one of these scumbags is taken out in this fashion, the police aren't out to "get you." it's one less scumbag they'll sound years griping to put away. Furthermore, your phone isn't magically locked after you call 911 unless the detectives instantly arrive on scene, can teleport themselves to a computer, write up an affidavit, rouse a judge in 15 seconds, have him sign a warrant and subpoena the AT&T or whomever your service provider is and have their department available to deal with the so called instant lock down of your phone. (highly improbable) and for no reason in the first place. As far as having a secret 2nd phone to make a plethora of calls, I wouldn't suggest that. They will find that phone unless u hide it very very well, as they will look through your things in your house t make sure the story went down as suspected. If you shoot someone in self defense and begin calling your tiger/legal team, (which is a cool notion that you may deem necessary if you live in a liberal city; I live in Oklahoma and Texas; ie--Make My Day) you are calling a lot more questions to yourself. Such as, if this was self defense...why do you have a team set up to deal with this already...was this planned? You see where I am going with this. I enjoyed your informative post and it had a lot of good points. But we don't need to be so scared of our police that killing an intruder is going to get you in a heap of trouble. Around here, you end u on the news with a "way to go!" Kind of story. I asked my husband recently, after he warned me that he'd interrogated a literal psychopath, and gave me a picture of him just in case he wanted to come after my husband or I (the first time in many many years he truly felt like someone he was about to send to prison seemed like enough of a threat to post his pic at our front door), and I asked him if his police gun was available and near me if I could unload it on the bad guy. He told me"ABSOLUTELY." You shoot until the threat has stopped. As far as I am concerned, if the intruder is still moving I am probably going to be fearing for my life, which is why, and it is legal to do so, empty every last one of the bullets in his Glock into the MFr that decides to very unluckily pick my home. (just don't shoot in the back. You are looking at trouble if you shoot a fleeing intruder or if facedown, in the back.) It'd be hard not to, but ya can't. I am a survivor of a violent crime and I will never again be a victim or a survivor of any violent crime if I can help it. But I will certainly make the intruder a non survivor of his. I am far more fearful of our Fed govt. Than the police. My husband is well aware you all too often call then police AFTER the crime has been committed. Therefore it is also highly understandable if you have to protect yourself. And in that protection of yourself, you make sure you aim for center mass and keep pulling the trigger until the threat has stopped. If you're some Massaud-super-trained shooter, you can try for the legs. But even my self defense guy, Ex Russian Special forces taught me to spray upward, starting at the hip across the abdomen and chest all the way to the shoulder. Even with training, I will stick with center mass. Sorry that was really long and likely redundant. Just don't be afraid to defend yourself and you don't need a team of people to give you back up and reason. Not here anyway. Heck, we just went open carry.

It is so hard this time of year, to lose someone. Actually, its always hard. But the seasons holidays make the burden feel especially heavy. Know your loved ones all meet together again. I am so sorry for your loss and I'll keep thinking of you and lifting you up in thought and prayer, love to you, dearest Unbertino, Jenny

GREAT FIND, the country is in the toilet. Slowly people are waking up...I can only hope. Ironic that Chicago is corrupt and violent as all get out. I am disgusted. Everyone should send this video out. Make it viral....i urge you to email it to everyone you know. The true colors. Anyway, thanks for sharing!