skeetdog Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Thanks Englishman...Hopefully there's more too this than the angle these articles are stating...The other side of this disagreement is not clear why Abadi request the removal of the governor...Let the smoke clear on this one to see where things settle.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Englishman Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Iraqi Kurd president says ties with Baghdad are cut over sacking of Kirkuk governor Najmadin Karim was dismissed by parliament after backing the inclusion of oil-rich province in the upcoming Kurdish independence referendum Mina Aldroubi September 14, 2017 Updated: September 14, 2017 07:57 PM The president of Iraqi Kurdistan declared ties between Baghdad and Erbil severed on Thursday after Iraq's parliament sacked the governor of Kirkuk amid tensions over a Kurdish independence referendum. "The escalation in the Iraqi parliament has left no room for negotiations with Baghdad," Masoud Barzani said. The vote to dismiss Najmadin Karim, the Kurdish governor of oil-rich Kirkuk — claimed by both Baghdad and the semi-autonomous Kurdistan region — follows a decision by the province to take part in the referendum scheduled on September 25 that is opposed by Baghdad. The lawmakers were acting on a request on Thursday from prime minister Haider Al Abadi’s office "for a vote to dismiss the governor of Kirkuk”, said parliament spokesman Abdel Al Malik Hussieni. “The request is based on the second clause of section 8 of Article 7 of the ‘Law of governorates not incorporated into a region’, the document is a product of Iraq’s local governance programme,” Mr Al Hussieni said. Article 7 of the provincial law stipulates that the “council of representatives may remove the governor by the absolute majority of its members upon the proposal of the prime minister, if he lost integrity, abused his powers, wasted public funds, lost a condition of membership, negligence or intentional shortcomings in performing his duties”. Mr Karim has been a vocal supporter of Kurdistan’s independence and of Kirkuk's participation in the vote. The province, which is home to Iraqi Arabs, Turkmen, Christians and Kurds, announced in August that it would participate in Iraqi Kurdistan's independence referendum even though it is not part of the Kurdistan region. The president of the European Turkmen Association League, Sundus Saqi told The National that “the league welcomes this decision. Although it is late, the decision is just.” Ms Saqi said that “Kirkuk is part of Iraq and is governed from Baghdad. However, the Kurds and their governor Najmadin Karim, have been acting like it is a part of Kurdistan’s autonomous region.” “Requesting for provinces in Iraq, out of the Kurdish region, to participate in the Kurdish province’s independence referendum is illegal," Ms Saqi said, and would "lead to a civil war”. The best solution to end the dispute over the territory of Kirkuk is an “equal partnership of the three communities Turkmens, Arabs and Kurds”, she said. Earlier, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) party denounced the Iraqi parliament's sacking of Mr Karim, saying the “government wants to give a political punishment to the Kurdistan Region. The removal of Kirkuk’s governor has no reasonable explanation.” The parliament voted on Tuesday to reject the Kurdish referendum and authorised Mr Al Abadi to “take all measures” to preserve national unity. Meanwhile, Turkmen and Arab leaders in Kirkuk have filed formal petitions to the United Nations and international embassies declaring their opposition to the inclusion of Kirkuk in the Kurdish referendum. Arshad Al Salehi, an Iraqi MP and head of the Iraqi Turkmen Front said that a signed petition by the Turkmen Front in Kirkuk was sent to the United Nations as well as embassies in the region on Wednesday. “We directed our objections to international organisations because what is happening in Kirkuk is unconstitutional and is illegal,” Mr Al Salehi told The National. The non-binding referendum has faced strong opposition from central government in Baghdad as well as from Turkey, Iran and the United States. On Thursday, Turkey warned Kurdish leaders that the referendum would "have a cost". Tehran and Ankara both fear that the vote will ignite separatist aspirations among their own sizeable Kurdish minorities, while Washington has warned Erbil that the vote would distract from Iraq’s battle against ISIL. Mr Barzani held talks on the referendum on Thursday with the US envoy to the anti-ISIL campaign, Brett McGurk, US ambassador Douglas Silliman, British ambassador Frank Baker and Jan Kubis, the UN special representative and head of its assistance mission in Iraq. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfrag Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Zebari is just as crooked as they come himself. Wasn't he kicked out of the Iraqi Parliment himself for all of his corrupt ways??? Perhaps the Kurds should wake up from Barzani's dream of life in LA LA LAND!!! Barzani is stealing them blind too! Karim falls under the "Abused his Powers" when he accepted that bribe from Barzani to jump on the Kurds bandwagon !!! Edited September 14, 2017 by jcfrag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosterbglee Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm beginning to think they will accomplish.......nothing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 YEARS LATER Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Never miss an opportunity to screw things all to hell. What a bunch of inbred mutants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigergorzow Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Iraqi parliament discusses dismissal of Kirkuk's governor September 14 2017 02:17 PM Breaking The Iraqi parliament voted to include the dismissal of the governor of Kirkuk on its agenda for Thursday's session, a source told The Baghdad Post. Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) said that the parliament does not have the right to sack the governor of Kirkuk, describing what happened as feeble attempts. Kurdistan will carry out an independence referendum, which includes Kirkuk governorate, on the 25th of September to secede from Iraq. http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/16917/Iraqi-parliament-discusses-dismissal-of-Kirkuk-s-governor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigergorzow Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Iraqi Parliament Votes to Remove Kirkuk Governor Basnews English 14/09/2017 - 14:12 Iraq ERBIL — The Iraqi Parliament voted in a session on Thursday to remove the Kirkuk Governor Najmadin Karim from the office. The Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi’s Office sent a request to the Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jabouri on Thursday, asking the parliament for a vote to dismiss the governor of Kirkuk. Around 173 MPs from those who attended today’s parliamentary session voted to withdraw confidence from the Kirkuk governor. The Kurdish MPs, however, boycotted the session in protest of the decision. Baghdad’s move against the Kirkuk governor is in response to his support for the Kurdistan Region’s independence referendum and holding the vote in the province. http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/iraq/377965 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Englishman Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Today's developments is why the Kurds and Iraqis will not get on and stay as one, history has always shown the gulf of differences and discontent. Unfortunately Baghdad has to shoulder most of the blame, although Erbil have not helped. Shake hands and part, be good neighbours and support each other when needed, as i am fed up with false promises and talks that mean nothing when it comes to the crunch. Concentrate on your own land and the people within who have suffered so much over the years, rather than pleasing the high ranks of your governments Ladies and gentlemen the time has come to show some balls and do the RIGHT thing, the country will never move forward as one and the suffering will only continue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylilpony Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Article 7 of the provincial law stipulates that the “council of representatives may remove the governor by the absolute majority of its members upon the proposal of the prime minister, So an absolute majority of its members means that they would have to include the kurdish bloc. Its just like the budget, if one of the main blocs do not vote on the budget, then the budget cannot go forward until they have the census of all blocs. At least one minister from a particular bloc has to vote or it doesnt count. So if the kurds boycotted the session and not one kurd voted for this then its not legal. The biggest thing that these guys need to get through their thick heads is that the turks and arabs were not originally part of kirkuk. Saddam moved those people into kirkuk so that it would be virtually taken away from the kurds by population. The kurds have been supporting kirkuk since i got invested 7 years ago, and who knows how long before that. Baghdad has done nothing for kirkuk but yet wants all the say so. Get off your arse and do something for kirkuk and maybe they would see things your way. The shiites are so frickin afraid that a sunni or kurd could gain power again that they are really ending up shooting themselves in the foot. The next step i think we are going to see besides the referendum if promises are not made and kept is kirkuk voting within the province to become their own region and they have the constitutional right to do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoviceInvestor Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 hours ago, boosterbglee said: I'm beginning to think they will accomplish.......nothing! You are not alone in your thinking boosterbglee... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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