"Intel" Gurus exposed

[USHistoryteacher]

Dear friends,

I told my wife on Feb. 1st I would check back on our June 19th anniversary. At the time I told her that I was 50% sure that I was listening to script writers post "guru-intel". I believed at the time there was a good chance this was being scripted by a collection of "subject-educated conspiritors". I haven't seen the sites since Feb. 1...but checked in because of chatter I picked up else where. I was right...this is out of control. I'm now 95% convinced.

First, let me tell a brief story that was a prelude to my 20 years in Sales and Marketing...I was a senior in high school. We were going to have an assembly. I told a friend of an idea...lets start a rumor. We told a handful of people that Pepsi was secretly sponsoring the assembly and that they were going to feature a "high spirited" school in an upcoming commercial. We started the rumor at 8:00am. By 3:00pm the energy was palpable. It was so loud and rowdy that the presenter was unable to make his presentation. Teachers had the most incredulous looks I've ever seen. Here is what I knew...we were having an assembly...the rest was marketing magic furnished by true believers who all got their "intel" from a trusted friend. They made the reality. That was marketing 101...senior year. "There is nothing so silly that should you repeat it often enough...people will believe it".

Secondly...good movie makers have mastered the art of "suspending disbelief". It is the best possible example of superior marketing and sales. That is why we spend millions to be momentarily transported to another place through movies. Its why I like James Bond.

Ok...Iraq is a real country with real potential. There is a history of countries that do have their currencies revalued. They have talked about it and Shabs is a real player in economics. Their are so many factors regarding this Iraqi "assembly" that, as a marketing and sales guy, I say a buck can be made. Here is my plan...lets assemble a small team of creative writers (who are "subject educated"). Now, lets do the math. 3,000,000 customers who buy an average of 1-2,000,000 dinar a piece, who average 2-3 purchases. That is somewhere between 6-9 million orders that average over a $100.00 profit per purchase for the selling company. That means there has been 6-900,000,000 MILLION in profits to be made. From a marketing perspective...this is a no brainer. These companies are making over 100,000,000 per year...that is assuming their are 6-9 of them. That kind of profit has a budget for marketing...trust me. I say lets start writing.

As a former Director for Marketing and Sales for a nameless corporation...here is my analysis and conclusion. Our target audience is the NEWBIE class. We will fabricate any and every bit of intel...Because it is PLAUSIBLE...because there is nothing so silly that should you repeat it often enough, people will believe it. We will suspend disbelief, even for the initiated, over time...but only for a time. Numbers will drive our game. We will run this out until sales numbers drop (I believe this had been getting synergistic over the last 6 months since I've been away). Here is what I expect is likely in the next 6-months to a year(could be longer). When the sales numbers fall there will be a marketing reversal. We will then fabricate intel that incites holders of dinar to sell. We will make countless millions on the buy back. We will repeat the process until this seemingly "IMMINENT" event takes place...at that time we will make BILLIONS. It is a no lose situation for the those running the show. There are NO LEGAL ramifications (everyone is truly annyonomous and these are just "rumors")...there is only upside. This is a marketing and sales dream come true.

I write this as an educated opinion. I AM HEAVILY VESTED in IQD. Why? Because my study of history, economics, and investment suggests it is a worthwhile venture. Iraq WILL NOT, because it CAN NOT, fail. We will see a return on this investment and I believe it will be in proportion to Iraqi wealth (oil), it will be based on Iraq's formation of a competent government that has provided national security, it will be grounded in Iraq's infrastructural development...it will come with time, the kind of time it takes for an emerging democracy to get the kind of traction necessary to make all our dreams come true.

If you are a NEWBIE...buy 1,000,000 dinar and check this site every monday http://www.cbi.iq/. Stay away from these sites and look ONLY at the Central Bank of Iraq site...it will tell you when the Iraqi Dinar has changed in value. If you are a "Senior Member"...I suggest you consider doing the same (except buy all that you can afford).

Please excuse grammar and spelling ( no spell check on this foreign computer)

See you all in January...GO RV!!!

[crnamiss]

Hummmmm, excellent post, makes good points

[Diamond4me]

Dear friends,

If you are a NEWBIE...buy 1,000,000 dinar and check this site every monday http://www.cbi.iq/. Stay away from these sites and look ONLY at the Central Bank of Iraq site...it will tell you when the Iraqi Dinar has changed in value. If you are a "Senior Member"...I suggest you consider doing the same (except buy all that you can afford).

Please excuse grammar and spelling ( no spell check on this foreign computer)

See you all in January...GO RV!!!

Good points, agree. BTW, you mentioned January, is it 2012 or ..... I am Ok till December 2013....

[AJ 37]

Hi, This is the exact thing I heard from another invester in Australia. These pumpers are being heavily paid by traders. The more you pump and increase sales you get paid a commission and all these gurus are in the same group. Don't get caught to these hypes. Play cool. Cheers

[GemGirl7]

My husband, who is an expert in internet marketing has said the same thing to me. He said he believes all these 'Gurus' are just a small handful of guys marketing among a bunch of websites. He said this is a common internet practice to help increase sales across various websites. He would not be surprised if they had been hired by companies that sell dinar, to create this chatter.

[Ok-Valentine]

What's funny to me is that this also sounds like a sales pitch....

He did say he was in sales and marketing....

(buy all you can afford). HeHez

[NYer]

Very informative.. Makes perfect sense to me.

[pokerplayer]

A very well educated post. This Information is very useful and could be used with any product, just not dinars. Post RV this Information could be used to sell anything from cars to wing nuts.

pp

[8887]

I spent 4 years on sea duty with the US Navy as a junior officer. To deal with periods of boredom, a few of us came up with an idea. If we didn't hear a rumor before 10am, we would start one. The game was to see how long it took for it to come back to us and in what form. HA! Great memories!

Blessings, 8887

[coxcreeksc]

Thanks for a factual read, like you said Marketing 101!

[jcny47]

[/bALL I CAN SAY IS WOW....]

[umbertino]

USHT......Good post. Thanks.

[Catmandu]

Teacher,

Well said. Remember all, it doesn't take even a handful of people it may be one or two who carry different handles, changing and answering themselves

As for 8887....You forgot the times we would start rumors and they would come back to us so changed that we believed them and almost fell for them until grunt would say "didn't you start that".

CMD

[11 Bravo]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

Are you telling me that this info from these gurus might not be legit.

I thought it was just coincidense that they are wrong everytime.

I must be a fool. Thanks for helping me see the light.

[Mo Money]

What's funny to me is that this also sounds like a sales pitch....

He did say he was in sales and marketing....

(buy all you can afford). HeHez

+ 1...while reading that I was thinking the same thing..bottom line the message at the end was..buy..buy..buy.. lol

[4aprofit]

The sad part about all of this...is if you go down to your local mall, walmart, gocery store, post office, etc.....and ask 100 people about the weather, you will get 100 different answers, of course some may be the same somewhat, but I guarantee you that there will be all types of variations...then run some of these person's answer's through numerous others, then see what you have ...it's get's to be a twisted tangled mess...so, with that said, even if we had only one guru trying to do his god honest best...with all of the other b.s. out there....how would we know if he or she's legit, and/or not in with the other's?....Or better yet, how do we know who to believe anywhere, and/or from any source...especially if we can't offer anything better ourselves, to put up on the plate for people to see what is actually happening in Iraq....The media here and in Iraq does'nt show us what's really happening either...I figured out a long time ago that if you googled even the word Iraq or Dinar, that you'll usually end up in some guru's lap one way or another....listening to something that they say daily that is a lie...and of enourmous proportions regarding the dinar...could this be to pump sales no matter what the regulars have figured out about this pumper's continued lie's...IMO...I think most definitely that there has been a plan since day one to pump dinars, and even to make people dump their dinars...and/or even play it back and forth...pump/buy, dump/sell-back, pump/buy, dump/sell-back, etc.......(Don't people get in a bind and sell their gold and sliver or other collectibles at times, and then sometimes buy them back, all according to the economic situations at the time?)...The only good thing about it...is that if this thing hits, and/or if it hit's of any signifigant value...some of that pumping may be a blessing...although aggravating as H#%l at times!...For what it's worth?

P.S. Do your own homework...as I did..and there are those that have been in this Iraqi Venture long term, that have already seen double and even triple gains, even in the dinars held physically, the Warka Bank Accts., and the ISX/Iraqi Stock Exchange....(These are things that are hardly ever mentioned)....So, for 8 years while blood was running in the streets...there were better gains in Iraq for many investorsors than there were in the U.S. or anywhere else..That is a FACT!...So, IMO..I've alway's said..."If that can happen while it was bad over there, what could happen if it get's good...and it's getting good..believe it or not"....

Edited July 9, 2011 by 4aprofit

[RodandStaff]

I am not sure that it takes a "marketing expert" to realize the fact that the gurus are a bunch of scripted pumper liars.....but at least your self announced qualifications may make some of these SHEEP open their eyes a little bit....

The rumors...and the sales pitch also relies on your selected "audience" being somewhat dense after the "project" has run for years and years and YEARS.... when there are level headed people on these websites practically BEGGING fools not to fall for it anymore.......or at least one would think.....

At this point....my opinion is that if someone is stupid enough to fall for the OUTRAGEOUS LIES and believe them...I hope they spend every last dime they have on buying more and more and more dinar......they deserve the "results" of that well thought out "investment" LMAO :lol:

The problem is the newbies and "their learning curve". If they don't get level headed advice soon enough.. yes, they will probably be suckered in...almost every time. They may not recognize the lies until they compare them to the truth. That said though... there is always a new crowd of newbies around the next corner so they can just keep perpetrating the same old lies and someone is bound to fall for them... unless they are warned, and heed those warnings. That is what education is for... keeping those poor well meaning (most of them anyway) newbies from hurting themselves. But that is a story in itself. I bet some of the "old timers" on this site could write a book on that subject! Ya think? GO RV Already!

[tandy]

Good post...Thx

[debbieb40]

thank you

[Think about it]

Yes, I just signed up but I have been watching over a year. I just had to finally say something. Anyone and everyone who has done any type of writing would know that when someone copies and pastes some one elses writings, it is copyright enfringement even if you cite where it came from. You must rewrite it in your own words and then cite it for it not to be. So the question is; With all of these sites and the person running them paying all this money to have them, why would they let other sites copy and paste without saying something? because in some way they are all linked together or when these guys 'don't like' each other they would do something about the other site coping and pasteing. Think about it.

[Diamond4me]

My husband, who is an expert in internet marketing has said the same thing to me. He said he believes all these 'Gurus' are just a small handful of guys marketing among a bunch of websites. He said this is a common internet practice to help increase sales across various websites. He would not be surprised if they had been hired by companies that sell dinar, to create this chatter.

Yes, it is possible. There are 2 groups of people 1. Pumpers who gives you all the good information based on current situation what is going on in Iraq.

2. Bashers, who will come out time to to time and gives you negative information.

It is human nature, we like to hear good and positive information and above all greed and dream to be financially independent. They create confusion, when there is a confusion there is a opportunity for those traders to make money. People won't pay much attention to negative information because of greed. Am I making any sense.

Well enjoy your weekend and have fun.