Popular Post dman13 Posted May 9, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I read all these posts and find myself amazed at the finger-pointing, griping, and many mean-spirited comments that they contain. This investment is a simple equation: small investment + time= gain. I know many people who are invested and I know many people who say this is a scam. The reality of the situation in my opinion is this: it may be either... I don't know and I don't believe a large number of people in this could definitively say it's one or the other. Therefore, with that said, we have to look at the RV thru a prism of pragmatism. If it's a scam, then I've lost a few thousand dollars and my life hasn't changed; however, if it's real and it LOPs, I've made 200-300% on my money which is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. But, if it hits without a LOP, then I've made several million and THAT does change my life. So for me, the scales made this an investment impossible to resist. Now every investment comes with a price. The dinar seems to carry both an emotional and a physical one for some people. I've read about people who are losing their homes, overcharging their credit cards, spending their mortgage payments and then moaning and groaning about the fact that the information delivered by the gurus didn't pan out... WHY??? No one held a gun to anyone's head and forced them to invest, did they? If you put yourself in a bad position to participate in this opportunity, then have the fortitude to accept the blame for that decision and not blame the 'pumper', the 'guru', or the government for not delivering... YOU did this, now do something to change it. I've seen where certain players are seemingly taking their toys and going to play in a different sandbox- Ali leaving was distressing for me because I've used him as my supplier. I did this for the convenience of the transaction and the anticipated exchange- now I'm not sure that he'll be there, but... it was HIS decision and I certainly don't hold any ill-will or bad feeling toward his choice. In fact, I wish him the best as long as he sold me legitimate dinars, there's no problem... IT's the same with everyone else... I'm sure that some of these that are leaving have made money from dinar investors but that's their choice. They can leave when they want just like in a large stakes poker game- you can leave the table when you choose. If they start another concern, it's once again mine and your choice to participate or not- isn't it??? It's called FREE WILL. No one should throw stones at them for their choices- remember, this is an investment of accountability. Anyway, I'm off my soapbox now... but I leave you with a few comments: 1) This is an investment of choice where we have no control over how it pans out 2) I strongly believe it's a terrific opportunity but everyone should realize it may take more time than is currently being discussed 3) I like the gurus- once again, they create an agenda for discussion at the very least but DECISIONS are MINE alone 4) If you have something positive to say; if you have facts that can be validated; if you have personal triumphs to proclaim; or if you have questions- then I look forward to reading your comments. BUT, if all you can do is *****, moan and groan as you call someone names, attack someone's character or slur someone's reputation- I'd appreciate it if you'd list in the subject matter of your thread some clue to it's nature so I don't waste my time. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculatorsRIDE Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Outstanding assessment and I concur with every statement. Kudo's to you for posting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsan Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Well put. Nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandy Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 good post and well said!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonavy Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thx for saying that.... it needed to be said. My brother who is invested significantly added this thought... If the a MM dinar costs 1180 USD and the sellers will repurchase at 960 USD, then you actual RISK is the 220USD difference. Furthermore, doesn't the fact that the companies that sell the dinar will also repurchase them just about end the whole "scam" discussion? Given the actual risk, 220USD/MM, and the potential return... a life changing event... what do I have to complain about??? $ 220 more or less is not going to affect my life, the return will. People, get some perspective. Don't bet the farm, don't invest the car note $$, don't get overwrought with all the intel. JUST WAIT. I would rather lose a couple of thousand dollars and own some totally worthless iraqi currency than to say (and know) that "yeah, I knew about that, but I was too smart for it!" If this event comes about... and I don't see how it could possibly be avoided... then I would not want to sit it out for the lack of some chump change. I like the gurus... I like reading about their "intel" eventhough their record on their predictions is abysmal. Forget the predictions, know why you invested... truthfully, the information these guys have passed along... hcl, Erbil agreement, tax strategies, Chapter 7, etc... have bolstered my confidence. I'm not a pumper because I don't need to pump. It is just as simple as this post put it... minimal investment + time= reward. OR NOT!!! But know what you invested, what the upside is and CHILL! Go RVing! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfd Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree 100% Thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggai Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) Great post, thank you Edited May 9, 2011 by Haggai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Machine Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Couldn't have said it better ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamf1414 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thank you and I agree, I would also like to add a few things to this that I am sick of seeing. If you feel this is a bad investment and we are getting robbed, GET OUT. Like what was stated above, this is your choice, bounce while you can still get your money back and quit posting it on every post that comes out. And when info comes out, we don't need 57 out of 60 replies that say, Link Please, if you are on this site, you have a computer, USE it, find the info yourself so that you can confirm whether this is a real post that someone found or if it is someone blowing smoke. Unfortunately we can not believe everything that is going on right now about anything let alone this investment, people are way to uptight about this and I feel bad because I know alot of people are praying that this happens just so they can pay their bills. Don't buy because of someone else's thoughts or predictions or intel. Get your own intel and buy when and if you can. And last but not least, even I believe that the "Gurus" are not always honest and I believe that some are trying to feed an ego that doesn't need anymore food. I feel there is no way that all of there intel is wrong. Things change all the time, Maybe something they found out was going to happen and then for one reason or another, it didn't. This is Iraq we are talking and they have a lot of work to do to get caught up with the rest of the world in a lot of areas. I to do not believe that their government cares for them, but if they don't get it together soon, it is very possible that they will have a revolt on their hands, just like what is going on in the rest of the Middle East. Sit back, and enjoy the ride, don't take it to seriously or you are going to have hospital bills to cover after your heart attack for all this mess Go RV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusofsabri Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Welcome on board dman13 and thanks for great thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big haus Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thank you all for these well stated posts.... I am a newbie here and have been asking myself, WHY? It is fellow Dinarians that will keep me staying. Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jxhal Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Newbie --- That says it all................................ 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deenar Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Newbie --- That says it all................................ That struck a nerve didn't it captain negative? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Newbie --- That says it all................................ Is there something positive that you would to contribute? It would be refreshing considering your track record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDinarWolf Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thx for saying that.... it needed to be said. My brother who is invested significantly added this thought... If the a MM dinar costs 1180 USD and the sellers will repurchase at 960 USD, then you actual RISK is the 220USD difference. Furthermore, doesn't the fact that the companies that sell the dinar will also repurchase them just about end the whole "scam" discussion? Given the actual risk, 220USD/MM, and the potential return... a life changing event... what do I have to complain about??? $ 220 more or less is not going to affect my life, the return will. People, get some perspective. Don't bet the farm, don't invest the car note $$, don't get overwrought with all the intel. JUST WAIT. I would rather lose a couple of thousand dollars and own some totally worthless iraqi currency than to say (and know) that "yeah, I knew about that, but I was too smart for it!" If this event comes about... and I don't see how it could possibly be avoided... then I would not want to sit it out for the lack of some chump change. I like the gurus... I like reading about their "intel" eventhough their record on their predictions is abysmal. Forget the predictions, know why you invested... truthfully, the information these guys have passed along... hcl, Erbil agreement, tax strategies, Chapter 7, etc... have bolstered my confidence. I'm not a pumper because I don't need to pump. It is just as simple as this post put it... minimal investment + time= reward. OR NOT!!! But know what you invested, what the upside is and CHILL! Go RVing! THAT $220US risk is only IF the dealers buy back. Many people are scared that the dealers might have sold worthless paper or the paper in fact does become worthless and not resellable to anybody. I am hopefull for a RV and that this is a real deal. Thx for saying that.... it needed to be said. My brother who is invested significantly added this thought... If the a MM dinar costs 1180 USD and the sellers will repurchase at 960 USD, then you actual RISK is the 220USD difference. Furthermore, doesn't the fact that the companies that sell the dinar will also repurchase them just about end the whole "scam" discussion? Given the actual risk, 220USD/MM, and the potential return... a life changing event... what do I have to complain about??? $ 220 more or less is not going to affect my life, the return will. People, get some perspective. Don't bet the farm, don't invest the car note $$, don't get overwrought with all the intel. JUST WAIT. I would rather lose a couple of thousand dollars and own some totally worthless iraqi currency than to say (and know) that "yeah, I knew about that, but I was too smart for it!" If this event comes about... and I don't see how it could possibly be avoided... then I would not want to sit it out for the lack of some chump change. I like the gurus... I like reading about their "intel" eventhough their record on their predictions is abysmal. Forget the predictions, know why you invested... truthfully, the information these guys have passed along... hcl, Erbil agreement, tax strategies, Chapter 7, etc... have bolstered my confidence. I'm not a pumper because I don't need to pump. It is just as simple as this post put it... minimal investment + time= reward. OR NOT!!! But know what you invested, what the upside is and CHILL! Go RVing! THAT $220US risk is only IF the dealers buy back. Many people are scared that the dealers might have sold worthless paper or the paper in fact does become worthless and not resellable to anybody. I am hopefull for a RV and that this is a real deal. Thx for saying that.... it needed to be said. My brother who is invested significantly added this thought... If the a MM dinar costs 1180 USD and the sellers will repurchase at 960 USD, then you actual RISK is the 220USD difference. Furthermore, doesn't the fact that the companies that sell the dinar will also repurchase them just about end the whole "scam" discussion? Given the actual risk, 220USD/MM, and the potential return... a life changing event... what do I have to complain about??? $ 220 more or less is not going to affect my life, the return will. People, get some perspective. Don't bet the farm, don't invest the car note $$, don't get overwrought with all the intel. JUST WAIT. I would rather lose a couple of thousand dollars and own some totally worthless iraqi currency than to say (and know) that "yeah, I knew about that, but I was too smart for it!" If this event comes about... and I don't see how it could possibly be avoided... then I would not want to sit it out for the lack of some chump change. I like the gurus... I like reading about their "intel" eventhough their record on their predictions is abysmal. Forget the predictions, know why you invested... truthfully, the information these guys have passed along... hcl, Erbil agreement, tax strategies, Chapter 7, etc... have bolstered my confidence. I'm not a pumper because I don't need to pump. It is just as simple as this post put it... minimal investment + time= reward. OR NOT!!! But know what you invested, what the upside is and CHILL! Go RVing! THAT $220US risk is only IF the dealers buy back. Many people are scared that the dealers might have sold worthless paper or the paper in fact does become worthless and not resellable to anybody. I am hopefull for a RV and that this is a real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman13 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 jxhal, didn't mean to start a p-ing contest but do have a few questions for you. 1) i've been invested in a small way since 05- recently improved my position b/c i think it's close to time... how do you define 'newbie' 2) if it's by the number of posts- i've only recently joined this site and only have 2 posts, however you only have a bit over 100. There's people here who have 1000 or more so if that makes me a 'newbie', what does it make you- a 'pain in the azz' 3) how can you disagree with any one point of my original post: make economically sound decisions, take responsibility for those decisions, don't blame others for your actions, and don't defame other's character or motivations when things don't happen. just asking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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