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I did some research on the talk about families being sent out of Iraq and all the other crap the media is pushing down our throats to buy into. I only know two people on the ground in Iraq, My friend is indicating that allot of this crap seems to be smoke and mirrors. I'm not too worried about all the garbage that is being said about families being sent out of Iraq. IMO this is being put out to keep the currency speculators under wraps. I still feel very positive about the coming RV. We may possibly here more good news yet tonight out of Iraq no I do not mean RV rather political. Here is a copy of an E-Mail I received from a friend earlier. All I can conclude from research is there are a LOT of backroom deals going on right now.

The articles are ALL smoke - M and A in full agreement. ALL positions filled - they are ready to announce but waiting on timing and articles are meant to hold down speculation. Media just trying to confuse. MOD, MOI and MOS ALL filled. GOI fully formed. Announcement at anytime now. Today is meant to confuse and buy more time to hold down speculators. Nothing to worry about. Great news coming out today! Just wait for it. All will be in agreement. By this afternoon Intel will be coming in from all areas to confirm. Peeps just need to sit tight and believe. Hope this helps if even just a little.

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NOW IM TRULY SORRY THAT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A CRUCIFIX IS SO OFFENSIVE TO YOU.

GUESS THATS THE REAL PROBLEM HERE. BUT ASK YOURSELF ONE QUESTION, WHAT ABOUT A CROSS IS IT THAT YOU FIND SO UPSETTING? ITS JUST A PICTURE. IF I HAD CHOSEN TO CALL MYSELF THE PORN KING OF KANSAS AND HAD A SCANTILY CLAD LADY AS MY AVATAR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OFFENDED AT ALL?

"WE FIGHT NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST POWERS AND PRINCIPALITY'S".

ITS JUST THAT DEMON ON YOUR SHOULDER THAT MAKES YOU SO OFFENDED AT SUCH A LITTLE THING.

AGAIN, SORRY THAT YOU FELL THIS WAY

Jesus, I did not say anything about your avatar - the crucifix. I said your name - Jesus Freak - gave me pause. It is the use of the word "Freak" that makes me want to take two steps back. Anyone that uses the word freak to describe themselves displays a trait that indicates extremism. Although, I do find it interesting that some people display their religion as a badge, an identity, but to each their own. This is why we live in America and not Saudia Arabia. But you think the crucifix is "a simple thing"....."a picture." Really. Jesus died for your sins on that cross, and you think a pictorial depiction of Christ on the cross is a simple thing. I am curious to know why you would use the name and/or the avatar as your identifier.

And, by the way, how dare you tell me what I will be offended at. You state I have a demon on my shoulder. Who do you think you are? Jesus or God? But we have established that - you have taken Jesus as your name.....it is only a name, my friend...only a name.

"WE FIGHT NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST POWERS AND PRINCIPALITY'S". That makes NO sense. Flesh and blood must offend you or you would not have accused me of not being offended by them.

Principalities, which, in your sentence is not used correctly, might be something you govern. Unless you are a city council member or some other elected official, then you may be fighting principalities. Perhaps it is the order of angels you are fighting against.

Definition of PRINCIPALITY

a : the state, office, or authority of a prince b : the position or responsibilities of a principal (as of a school)

b: the territory or jurisdiction of a prince : the country that gives title to a prince

c: plural : an order of angels — see celestial hierarchy

Principles, on the other hand, are something you live by and believe in. Extremism, on the other hand, is something that is generally not good for anyone.

Peace.

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Hey all I am new to this site and to owning dinars. If the past few years have been this exciting I would think you would all need to be on blood pressure medicine. Anyway, just saying hi and GO RV!

Well I am almost positive that when everyone in here got in the iraqi dinar investment, did so knowing that the return could either skyrocket and pay huge, or worst case scenario break even, or very minimal loss, as long as you don't invest more than you can afford to lose (just like any other investment if not better). So noone got carried away, or over excited to be on a blood pressure medicine. However, when they pull the trigger on that freaking RV I know I will be on a blood pressure medecine. :)

So bring on that blood pressure medecine!!!

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Not trying to bust every ones bubble but he said they told him where in print can we find it saying $3.20? All I am asking for is a link to where it says RV at $3.20. other wise it is all hear say .

Not trying to bash just want more info to show where you came up with $3.20. & than I believe you about $3.20 other wise we just need to wait and see what the rate come out at.

But thank you for the rest of your post with a link to where it came from I do believe we are sitting right on the edge of this sucker RV I just don't want to get mt hope up for something that's not coming . (his info could be right and could be wrong is all I am saying with no link to prove it about rate)

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Jesus, I did not say anything about your avatar - the crucifix. I said your name - Jesus Freak - gave me pause. It is the use of the word "Freak" that makes me want to take two steps back. Anyone that uses the word freak to describe themselves displays a trait that indicates extremism. Although, I do find it interesting that some people display their religion as a badge, an identity, but to each their own. This is why we live in America and not Saudia Arabia. But you think the crucifix is "a simple thing"....."a picture." Really. Jesus died for your sins on that cross, and you think a pictorial depiction of Christ on the cross is a simple thing. I am curious to know why you would use the name and/or the avatar as your identifier.

And, by the way, how dare you tell me what I will be offended at. You state I have a demon on my shoulder. Who do you think you are? Jesus or God? But we have established that - you have taken Jesus as your name.....it is only a name, my friend...only a name.

"WE FIGHT NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST POWERS AND PRINCIPALITY'S". That makes NO sense. Flesh and blood must offend you or you would not have accused me of not being offended by them.

Principalities, which, in your sentence is not used correctly, might be something you govern. Unless you are a city council member or some other elected official, then you may be fighting principalities. Perhaps it is the order of angels you are fighting against.

Definition of PRINCIPALITY

a : the state, office, or authority of a prince b : the position or responsibilities of a principal (as of a school)

b: the territory or jurisdiction of a prince : the country that gives title to a prince

c: plural : an order of angels — see celestial hierarchy

Principles, on the other hand, are something you live by and believe in. Extremism, on the other hand, is something that is generally not good for anyone.

Peace.

Now you see what a slight difference in religious beliefs causes and this is on a very small scale. Sounds like we are going to have Jihad or a crusade in the making. :lol::lol: Religion has caused a lot of death and destruction throughout the centuries!

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As I said last night GOOD things are coming our way, further that the political stances are all smoke and mirrors. Be positive hang in there we will have our reward very soon! It is already DONE! "Nuff Said" LMAO on that one, Okie shot. Here are a couple POSITIVE things you can read. Remember the NEWS said that parliament would not convene until next Saturday...pffff. Enjoy.

OS stresses the need to consider the low salaries of the citizens and work on lifting

BAGHDAD – The Feed – MP for the National Alliance Adnan OS on the need to consider the salaries of low degrees of functional citizens, calling for the lifting of the amounts of such salaries, “to fit with the requirements of everyday life.”

OS and said in a statement to the news agency public opinion (and babysit): “must be considered to reduce the salaries of the degree of functional and upper limit to the other grades can be equal, in addition to consider the question of excessive salaries must be considered.”

Tags: Abbas al-Bayati, Baghdad, Business and Economy, Central Bank, Government, Iraq, Middle East, Salary

* Maliki emphasizes the need to amend the Constitution

February 21, 2011 10:12 pm · Posted in NEWS (Iraq & World Currency) · Comments Off Posted 21/02/2011 12:25 PM

BAGHDAD (Babuz): New Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s demand to amend the terms of the Constitution, said in a speech during a meeting with a group of Iraqi teachers union: “After having laid the foundations we need to build up this subject and begin to reform the Constitution .”

Maliki said: “The Constitution has given us freedoms, but should not taken to encroach upon the Laws of the democratic process because the disciplinary process is organized life “.

He noted that “demonstrations in the area opened the doors of change for the peoples of those absent because of dictatorships States .” He continued that “all citizens are responsible for building the nation through community building, which is the responsibility of the teacher grades the first because the construction starts from the student “.

The prime minister stressed in his speech that claimed that people demand of services demands are realistic and we have asked the ministers to step down to the field and follow-up to people’s concerns and address them, but the citizen has to pay attention and warns of the politicization of the demonstrations .

He al-Maliki that the teachers were briefed on the various suffering family of difficult economic conditions during the period of the tyrant is busy Bhroppe, but so far we have to make reforms in the educational aspect by reducing the number of schools mud from (900) school (500) schools as there are plans to establish a buildings, centers and laboratories, where the contract has been signed in the establishment (150 laboratories.

The prime minister called on teachers to devote non-sectarian and religious aspects, because society must be away from the vocabulary, and that this responsibility is the most important part in the episode the other components of government institutions.

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Religion yes, Christianity NO!!!!!!

Come on Staff Sgt., :huh: just google Inquisition for example and read a little about the history. :D

Actually In Iraq, Bull Dog is right; because religion and righteousness are two totally different things...

GOD didn't endorse the Inquisitions, a bunch of religious, sadomasochistic zealots falsely using the banner of Christ did...

For not one thing they ever did was at all Christ-like in any way, shape or form; please read Matthew 5:3-16, Matthew 25:31-46 and Luke 10:25-37 for some examples of how they were supposed to act as stated by Christ Himself...

Christ also describes these people in Matthew 7:15-23, Matthew 23:13, Luke 16:19-31 and John 8:44...

Now you see what a slight difference in religious beliefs causes and this is on a very small scale. Sounds like we are going to have Jihad or a crusade in the making. :lol::lol: Religion has caused a lot of death and destruction throughout the centuries!

I do however understand though and your point about religion is indeed valid In Iraq...

Sadly what most people fail to understand, is that being religious isn't the same thing as being righteous...

Funny thing, the same group that established the Inquisitions, are indeed guilty of many, many heresies themselves...

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I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE RATE WILL BE, AND AM EVEN BEGINNING TO DOUBT IF THIS WILL HAPPEN AT ALL.

THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE COME TO REALIZE THAT THOSE WHO STRONGLY SAY, IT WONT COME OUT AT A HIGH RATE, HAVE ABOUT AS MUCH EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THERE BELIEF AS , DONT PROMOTE OTHER SITES.

YET, SCOOTER, WHOM I DO FIND TO BE SOMEWHAT ECONOMICALLY INTELLIGENT HAS SHOWN SOME EVIDENCE THAT IRAQ COULD support A RATE AS HIGH AS 7 TO1.

HE DOES HOWEVER, THINK IT WILL NOT COME OUT NO WHERE NEAR THAT HIGH.

TWO THINGS WE NEED TO REMEMBER WHEN TALKING ABOUT IRAQ.

1ST: ITS IRAQ, THEY CAN SCREW UP ANYTHING. THEY ARE A TRIBAL MENTALITY, AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT NEVER CHANGE.

2ND: THIS ENTIRE EVENT IS A SCRIPTED PLAN BY WORLD BANKERS, WITH A PURPOSE. AND DONT TELL ME HOW CRAZY THAT SOUNDS, CAUSE TO THINK THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN IRAQ UP TILL NOW WAS SIMPLY RANDOM EVENTS THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS SO LUCKY TO CAPITALIZE ON, IS PURE IDIOCY.

BUT AS ANY MILITARY MAN WILL TELL YOU, ALL WELL MAID PLANS WILL BE CHANGED ONCE THE BULLETS START TO FLY. HENCE WHY I HAVE SOME TREPIDATION.

I COULD TELL YOU THAT I ASKED GOD WHAT THE RATE WOULD BE AND HE TOLD ME 4+, BUT YOU WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE AS MUCH EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP AS DONT PROMOTE OTHER SITES. SOOOO WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE?

WELL, ONE THING SEEMS TO BE COMING TO LIGHT AS WE READ, IF IT DOESN'T CHANGE SOON WE MOST LIKELY CAN FORGET IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE RATE WILL BE, IF AND WHEN IT RVs. BUT FOR THE AVERAGE IRAQI CITIZENS SAKE I PRAY THAT SOMEONE WILL FIGURE IT OUT AND DO IT VERY SOON.

Call it what you will. But, unless you can show me ANY country that has actually monetized their natural resources; I think we are both agreeing that the RV will be MUCH lower than $3.20. Most of the "theories" supporting a high RV rate have revolved around the issue of monetizing their Oil; something NO ONE has done to date. Even if they wanted to, they still don't have the ability to bring it to market; not even in the medium term. So, I think the reality of the situation is clear; even though the RV rate is not... LOL

ps. If you had told me God had actually given you the rate; it would not have made you less credible... :)

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Nelson528, I'm not saying a rate or date. I simply said I think it will be $3+ JMO. With that there is allot happening behind the scenes in IRAQ RIGHT NOW. I have two friends that are telling me that what we are seeing over here is all Smoke and Mirrors. Now does that mean they are correct? I do not know that they are in the "Green Zone" in Iraq simply stating to me DO NOT WORRY about what is being said. Like all of you I too am poised on the edge of my seat wanting an RV as much as the next person. I do not consider myself a Pumper, Guru or the likes of anything else in this mess. I will say my post yesterday has come to pass just as I was told. We were all told that the Parliament would meet next weekend and I said I was told that was BOGUS and it was just that. Things are picking up speed to what end I do not know. I remain positive and prayerful. ANYTHING I HAVE SAID IS JMO. Peace.

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Nelson528, I'm not saying a rate or date. I simply said I think it will be $3+ JMO. With that there is allot happening behind the scenes in IRAQ RIGHT NOW. I have two friends that are telling me that what we are seeing over here is all Smoke and Mirrors. Now does that mean they are correct? I do not know that they are in the "Green Zone" in Iraq simply stating to me DO NOT WORRY about what is being said. Like all of you I too am poised on the edge of my seat wanting an RV as much as the next person. I do not consider myself a Pumper, Guru or the likes of anything else in this mess. I will say my post yesterday has come to pass just as I was told. We were all told that the Parliament would meet next weekend and I said I was told that was BOGUS and it was just that. Things are picking up speed to what end I do not know. I remain positive and prayerful. ANYTHING I HAVE SAID IS JMO. Peace.

BanG, I'm trackin'. I hope the rate comes out high too; but, in my heart, I know they simply cannot support it at this time. I gave you pluses for most of your posts. I did however, take a minor reservation with regard to your post about how everything is done and we are just waiting on the announcement. Unfortunately there is still some legislation that needs to be taken care of. The Kuwaiti files ( I think the last of the conditions placed on the removal of Ch 7), the currency issue, and possibly the HCL (while not a requirement, it WILL support a higher rate). I haven't been on much the last 24 hours; but, so far I haven't seen where any of these have been finalized yet. And maybe I missed it; but, have they even announced the ratification of the Security Ministires yet? Not sure. We are definitely closer than we've ever been. Just got a few more details to iron out. Thank God they seem to be managing the unrest a little better today. Let's keep up the good vibes; but, let's make sure our expectations are reasonable ones. :D

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Actually In Iraq, Bull Dog is right; because religion and righteousness are two totally different things...

GOD didn't endorse the Inquisitions, a bunch of religious, sadomasochistic zealots falsely using the banner of Christ did...

For not one thing they ever did was at all Christ-like in any way, shape or form; please read Matthew 5:3-16, Matthew 25:31-46 and Luke 10:25-37 for some examples of how they were supposed to act as stated by Christ Himself...

Christ also describes these people in Matthew 7:15-23, Matthew 23:13, Luke 16:19-31 and John 8:44...

I do however understand though and your point about religion is indeed valid In Iraq...

Sadly what most people fail to understand, is that being religious isn't the same thing as being righteous...

Funny thing, the same group that established the Inquisitions, are indeed guilty of many, many heresies themselves...

True. But you can be righteous and not be affiliated with a religion. Unfortunately religion has been mis-used and utilized as an excuse to do bad things to others! Don't get me wrong I believe, just not zealous. :)

BanG, I'm trackin'. I hope the rate comes out high too; but, in my heart, I know they simply cannot support it at this time. I gave you pluses for most of your posts. I did however, take a minor reservation with regard to your post about how everything is done and we are just waiting on the announcement. Unfortunately there is still some legislation that needs to be taken care of. The Kuwaiti files ( I think the last of the conditions placed on the removal of Ch 7), the currency issue, and possibly the HCL (while not a requirement, it WILL support a higher rate). I haven't been on much the last 24 hours; but, so far I haven't seen where any of these have been finalized yet. And maybe I missed it; but, have they even announced the ratification of the Security Ministires yet? Not sure. We are definitely closer than we've ever been. Just got a few more details to iron out. Thank God they seem to be managing the unrest a little better today. Let's keep up the good vibes; but, let's make sure our expectations are reasonable ones. :D

I agree with the above. The budget being published utilizing dinars instead of dollars was huge in my eyes. Figured it would be 2012 at the rate they were working!

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The articles are ALL smoke - M and A in full agreement. ALL positions filled - they are ready to announce but waiting on timing and articles are meant to hold down speculation. Media just trying to confuse. MOD, MOI and MOS ALL filled. GOI fully formed. Announcement at anytime now. Today is meant to confuse and buy more time to hold down speculators. Nothing to worry about. Great news coming out today! Just wait for it. All will be in agreement. By this afternoon Intel will be coming in from all areas to confirm. Peeps just need to sit tight and believe. Hope this helps if even just a little.

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I hope your friend in country is right. I can't wait to get home from work today to see if there's more GOOD NEWS!

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NOW IM TRULY SORRY THAT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A CRUCIFIX IS SO OFFENSIVE TO YOU.

GUESS THATS THE REAL PROBLEM HERE. BUT ASK YOURSELF ONE QUESTION, WHAT ABOUT A CROSS IS IT THAT YOU FIND SO UPSETTING? ITS JUST A PICTURE. IF I HAD CHOSEN TO CALL MYSELF THE PORN KING OF KANSAS AND HAD A SCANTILY CLAD LADY AS MY AVATAR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OFFENDED AT ALL?

"WE FIGHT NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST POWERS AND PRINCIPALITY'S".

ITS JUST THAT DEMON ON YOUR SHOULDER THAT MAKES YOU SO OFFENDED AT SUCH A LITTLE THING.

AGAIN, SORRY THAT YOU FELL THIS WAY

Jesusfreak - I want to say something to you, as a Christian, and fellow disciple of Jesus, I am to bring to your attention things you are doing that are not biblical. First, to argue with someone the way you are here openly in public and using fonts and styles to bring attention to yourself does not lead a person to Christ. I would ask that you tone it down so that you don't damage my witness to others as well.

Also when you quote scripture it would behoove you to get it correct and to cite the entire verse and not take it out of context. It also helps to cite the passage so that others can look it up. I prefer to cite the translation as well.

The passage you quoted incompletely is from Ephesians Chapter 6 Verse 12 "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." (EPH 6:12 NKJV).

To answer the question that person had as far as Principalities. It is indeed Angels. This verse speaks of angels and spiritual forces that are ranks like Lt. Col, General etc.... It speaks of the spiritual battle between the angels of Heaven and the fallen angels which are with Lucifer.

I do not expect the average non believer to understand this verse, but for the believer it is a battle cry of sorts. It also is used to teach you to pray and to understand we are in a bigger world.

However, if you are a student of quantum theory then you will understand that angelic forces are also multidimensional beings.

Jesusfreak, I understand your frustration, and your desire to identify as a Jesus Freak i.e. a person not afraid to pay the ultimate price as a believer and a representative of Jesus, to die for your faith. To be tortured for your faith. But please stop making the true rational logical faith in Jesus Christ as a article of derision. If you are a true authentic Christian then please start showing love to your fellow man and stop throwing faith around like it is a toy. Doing this makes the rest of us look like fools.

As a Christian I hope I have never offended you, but should you ask for the truth then will state it to you.

Thank you for your time.

Martin

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