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2 hours ago, Pitcher said:

Poland

 

 

Look Im in between trading so I don’t have time to proofread sometimes. I apologize for spell check being dumb.  

 

Poland was supposed to be Politicians and their families, not Poland. .  Geez. At least I got a laugh.  Need it today. Market is dumb too.  

 

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12 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

I believe you have stated this at least 1000 times in the last 3 years. My point is that Romney is very much like Biden, Kerry, and HRC.  

 

Both sides are ripping off the Country and enriching themselves in Pay for play schemes.  

 

There have been at least 2 books written about the subject.  I’ve listed them before.  

 

I'll concur to your assessment.....enriching oneself by not divesting from the family business is another rip off scheme as well.

 

GO RV, then BV

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

enriching oneself by not divesting from the family business is another rip off scheme as well.

 

At least Trumps kids are running a real company as opposed to Hunter and Kerry’s kid going around accepting bribes because their fathers are politicians.  How does Hunter get a job on an oil company’s board.  LMAO if you can’t see that as the real Quid pro quo.  You might want to read the headlines.  Rudy is ready to bring the dirt on the Biden’s, which will quickly move to the Kerry’s and down the line of all the thieving politicians.  

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4 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

At least Trumps kids are running a real company as opposed to Hunter and Kerry’s kid going around accepting bribes because their fathers are politicians.  How does Hunter get a job on an oil company’s board.  LMAO if you can’t see that as the real Quid pro quo.  You might want to read the headlines.  Rudy is ready to bring the dirt on the Biden’s, which will quickly move to the Kerry’s and down the line of all the thieving politicians.  

 

Oh....I've read them.  ;)

 

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Barr offers skepticism on Giuliani's offer of info on Bidens

 
By Josh Gerstein PoliticoFebruary 10, 2020
 
 
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Attorney General Bill Barr went out of his way Monday to express skepticism about information President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is offering on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, but Barr also made clear the Justice Department is open to receiving whatever Giuliani wants to share.

Addressing comments by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) that he'd arranged for Giuliani to present Justice officials with fruits of his on-the-ground research into the Bidens and Ukraine, Barr said information originating in Ukraine must be treated with caution.

"The Department of Justice has the obligation to have an open door to anybody who wishes to provide us information that they think is relevant," Barr said in response to a reporter's question at a news conference on unrelated database hacking charges. "I did say to Sen. Graham, we have to be very careful with respect to any information coming from the Ukraine."

The attorney general appeared to refer to notes as he painted Ukraine as a swamp of allegations almost impossible to separate from political ambitions and grievances.

"There are a lot of agendas in the Ukraine. There are a lot of cross currents, and we can't take anything we receive from the Ukraine at face value," Barr said. He said the department's stance on accounts or evidence emerging from the former Soviet republic is a broad one, but he emphasized it would apply to "any information Giuliani might provide."

Giuliani has traveled to Ukraine to conduct research into the role of the former vice president's son Hunter on the board of Burisma, a local energy company. Trump allies have accused both Bidens of corruption, but no substantial evidence of impropriety has emerged. Hunter Biden has denied any wrongdoing, but has said he regrets taking the post and said it reflected "poor judgment" in light of his father's position at the time.

Barr left the news conference Monday without taking any follow-up questions, but FBI Deputy Director David Bowditch said any report from Giuliani would be handled in the usual course.

"We’re taking information as we would in any case. We will evaluate it appropriately," Bowditch said.

Asked how receiving unverified information from Giuliani is different from the FBI’s controversial acceptance of former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s dossier on alleged Trump-Russia connections, Bowditch did not answer directly. And when asked whether the FBI is, in fact, investigating the Bidens, Bowditch was noncommittal.

"I’m not going to touch it — I'm not going to talk about any investigation, as I never would," the FBI official said.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/barr-offers-skepticism-giulianis-offer-161917405.html

 

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'I'm not going to be the Republican Christopher Steele': Graham fears Giuliani evidence is Russian propaganda

William Cummings, USA TODAY
USA TODAYFebruary 10, 2020, 10:50 AM EST
 
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Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham on Sunday advised caution before accepting the evidence that President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani has claimed to have amassed in Ukraine against former Vice President Joe Biden. 

Graham said Attorney General William Barr told him in a phone call Sunday that the Department of Justice had created a process to verify the documents Giuliani obtained in Ukraine. 

The South Carolina Republican said on CBS News' "Face the Nation" that there are legitimate questions about whether Hunter Biden's position on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company, posed a conflict of interest for his father, whom former President Barack Obama had tasked with tackling corruption in Ukraine. 

"But if Rudy Giuliani has any information coming out of the Ukraine, he needs to turn it over to the Department of Justice because it could be Russian propaganda," Graham said.

In Fox News appearances on Saturday and Sunday, Giuliani claimed to have evidence he described as a "smoking gun" proving the Bidens were complicit in bribery and money laundering relating to Burisma. 

But Graham said, "any documents coming out of the Ukraine against any American –Republican or Democrat – need to be looked at by the intelligence services." 

"Because Russia is playing us all like a fiddle." 

Last week, Trump was acquitted on two articles of impeachment stemming from allegations that he conducted a pressure campaign, with Giuliani as point man, to get Ukraine to announce investigations in Burisma and a conspiracy theory related to the 2016 election, which said Ukraine and not Russia was behind the theft of Democratic National Committee emails. 

During her testimony in the impeachment inquiry, former National Security Council official Fiona Hill said the latter theory was a "fictional narrative" that had been created and promoted by Russian intelligence operatives. 

Ukraine and 2016: Why Trump's Senate GOP allies are pushing accusations of Ukraine election meddling

"I called the attorney general this morning and Richard Burr, the chairman of the Intel Committee, and they told me, 'Take very cautiously anything coming out of the Ukraine against anybody,'" Graham said.

In a tweet ahead of Graham's appearance on the CBS News show, which he referred to as, "DeFace the Nation," Trump said Graham "must start up Judiciary and not stop until the job is done. Clean up D.C. now, last chance!" 

"I think what he's talking about is oversight of the FISA warrant system that failed," Graham said when asked about the president's tweet. He repeated his previous pledge to hold hearings on the FBI applications for surveillance warrants related to the 2016 campaign under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

In December, a report from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz identified 17 inaccuracies in requests to wiretap former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page in 2016 and 2017. Among those inaccuracies were exaggerations of the reliability of a dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele.

FISA fallout: FBI outlines surveillance reforms after searing rebuke from court, DOJ inspector general

"How could you issue four warrants against an American citizen based on information that was unreliable?" Graham wondered. 

"But here's what I want to tell the president: I'm not going to be the Republican Christopher Steele," Graham added. "Christopher Steele was played by the Russians that started the Russian investigation against President Trump. It was all garbage. I don't want to do the same thing." 

Graham said he wanted to tell Trump that "that the Russians are still up to it," in terms of election interference and spreading disinformation. "Deterrence is not working." 

"If he's watching the show, here's what I would tell the president: I’m going to get to the bottom of the FISA work process because it was an abuse of power of the Department of Justice, the FBI. And we're to make sure that Hunter Biden’s conflict of interest is explored because it's legitimate," he said. "But when it comes to documents coming out of the Ukraine – to Republicans and Democrats – be very cautious." 

Graham did not always advocate such caution when it came to Giuliani's allegations. Graham and other lawmakers who defended Trump's actions have said evidence like that acquired by Giuliani gave the president legitimate reasons to be concerned about corruption in Ukraine. 

In October, when the impeachment inquiry was just getting underway, Graham invited Giuliani to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee about his "disturbing allegations." 

Graham repeated his invitation during a Dec. 15 appearance on "Face the Nation," saying, "If Rudy wants to come to the Judiciary Committee and testify about what he found, he's welcome to do so." 

But by the end of December, Graham was less enthusiastic. 

"He has not shared any of that information with me," Graham told The Daily Beast regarding Giuliania's purported evidence. Graham said then that his advice to Giuliani was to take what he had to the intelligence community "to make sure it’s not Russia propaganda."

"I’m very suspicious of what the Russians are up to all over the world," he said. 

Since then, Graham has said hearings related to Burisma and the 2016 election would be under the purview of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or Intelligence Committee rather than the Judiciary Committee which he heads.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/im-not-going-republican-christopher-224632419.html

 

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Yep all news will be vetted according to Barr.  I don’t have a problem with that. All any voter wants is the truth which is getting harder and harder to find these days. If the Dems had vetted the Steele Dossier a little more carefully there would not have been Spying, Comey breaking laws, and there would probably would be no Mueller Report etc, etc.  

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Again that is all good in my book.  It’s pretty obvious that Russia is interfering in our elections again.  I’m sure there will be a flood of disinformation the closer we get to the elections.  

 

 

2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

I'm not going to be the Republican Christopher Steele': Graham fears Giuliani evidence is Russian propaganda

 

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11 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

"Because Russia is playing us all like a fiddle." 

 

Not just some of us... Not the just the democrats... This statement means everyone... Putin is not our friend. How Trump and his supporters could doubt our own people and take Putin's word is beyond me. Normally I would laugh at Trump's lack of judgement, but when Lindsay Graham is telling you this on television in front of America it is no laughing matter.... People better wake up to the fact we have a sadly unqualified man running our country... It has been documented many times, that Trump and his worshipers are spreading Putin;s propaganda. Trump and his twitidotics are doing the work for Putin....    JMHO

 

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14 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

Putin's word is beyond me. Normally I would laugh at Trump's lack of judgement, but when Lindsay Graham is telling you this on television in front of America it is no laughing matte

 

Obama “just wait until after the elections when I will be able to do more”

 

Yep Obama had it all under control BA. Worst President EVER.

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

Putin is not our friend.

I agree...never would trust a KGB agent. 
 

1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

People better wake up to the fact we have a sadly unqualified man running our country.

Sorry, not now....let’s see...community organizer or proven business man to run the country. I will take the business man every day than a socialist community organizer. I agree with @Pitcher, obummer will go down In history as the worst president and I will add, Trump will go down in history as one of the best.

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1 hour ago, Pitcher said:

 

At least Trumps kids are running a real company as opposed to Hunter and Kerry’s kid going around accepting bribes because their fathers are politicians.  How does Hunter get a job on an oil company’s board.  LMAO if you can’t see that as the real Quid pro quo.  You might want to read the headlines.  Rudy is ready to bring the dirt on the Biden’s, which will quickly move to the Kerry’s and down the line of all the thieving politicians.  

 

 

I see some here don't read a lot of articles here that clear POTUS Trump of wrong doings.

 

Appeals court rules Democrats can't sue Trump over emoluments claims

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/481993-appeals-court-rules-democrats-cant-sue-trump-over-emoluments-claims

 

The Emoluments clause is meaningless

https://theweek.com/articles/864240/emoluments-clause-meaningless

 

Doesn't say anything about running a Hotel, Saloon or even a Brotel if he so desired..........

 

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Truft under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congrefs, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

 

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