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5 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

So what da problem is? :lol: oh and hi :wave: do you know where I can find the Merlo? 

 

And just to clarify, Our sins can only be washed away by the Blood of the Lamb. 

 

 

:huh:  Wait...What?  They sell the Blood of the Lamb at the liquor store?........What aisle?  :blink:

 

GO RV, then BV 

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8 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

the hope thatTrump offers

 

DV I read your posts with great interest. You are well versed and it was you that opened the illegal government we live by, to me. It surprises me that you of all people do not see that Trump is a con man, liar and a leader without a plan or direction. If he was leading he wouldn't be worried by what is behind him. His daily rants about negative news stories only shows that his ego is in the way of getting anything done. His thin skin is going to cost him the support of his base. He is a One Term Wonder if he lasts that long.

 

I didn't intend to mean Bush was the beginning, only a giant fraud that most do not realize. People worship that family which blows me away. I am for the people, not the government. I do think of the good for the many over the good for the few.

 

As for selling out America you go back to 1933, I would go back to 1913. The year of the16th Amendment and the formation of The Fed. That was the end of the American Dream. Created by The Democrats and expanded by The Republicans. Two sides working against the middle... That would be us, the citizens.

 

And yet here we are pawns in their game of division... That's why I refuse to vote for either party, and would suggest the citizens do the same... The two parties are one giant cluster... Time for them all to be booted.

 

B/A

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On 7/10/2017 at 3:54 PM, DinarDavo said:

 

Anyone remember all the generals and admirals that Obama purged from leadership positions that were not in line with his plan to destroy America?

 

Mad Dog was one of them

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-fires-top-general-without-even-a-phone-call/article/697744

 

 

Pentagon insiders say that he rubbed civilian officials the wrong way -- not because he went all "mad dog," which is his public image, and the view at the White House, but rather because he pushed the civilians so hard on considering the second- and third-order consequences of military action against Iran. Some of those questions apparently were uncomfortable. Like, what do you do with Iran once the nuclear issue is resolved and it remains a foe? What do you do if Iran then develops conventional capabilities that could make it hazardous for U.S. Navy ships to operate in the Persian Gulf? He kept saying, "And then what?"

 

 

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3 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

DV I read your posts with great interest. You are well versed and it was you that opened the illegal government we live by, to me. It surprises me that you of all people do not see that Trump is a con man, liar and a leader without a plan or direction. If he was leading he wouldn't be worried by what is behind him. His daily rants about negative news stories only shows that his ego is in the way of getting anything done. His thin skin is going to cost him the support system" rel="">support of his base. He is a One Term Wonder if he lasts that long.

 

I didn't intend to mean Bush was the beginning, only a giant fraud that most do not realize. People worship that family which blows me away. I am for the people, not the government. I do think of the good for the many over the good for the few.

 

As for selling out America you go back to 1933, I would go back to 1913. The year of the16th Amendment and the formation of The Fed. That was the end of the American Dream. Created by The Democrats and expanded by The Republicans. Two sides working against the middle... That would be us, the citizens.

 

And yet here we are pawns in their game of division... That's why I refuse to vote for either party, and would suggest the citizens do the same... The two parties are one giant cluster... Time for them all to be booted.

 

B/A

Of course, Trump is not the end answer, but then, The People are nowhere ready, or educated enough to be able to exist in that alternate universe' reality.

Do you honestly believe the inner-city would not devolve into total anarchy the very same day every firearm licensing restriction was eliminated?

Licenses themselves would almost totally disappear.

So would around 150,000 other statutes that are not in compliance with common law.

Before America could possibly hope to exist within a correct framework The People have to understand exactly what that means.

There are many thousands of illegal practices the government has declared it's right to impose on us.

There are easily tens of millions of individuals who are aware, at this exact moment, that they are raping their neighbor's or their rightfully earned sweat equity, are aware that by doing so they are perpetuating a falsehood, a deception created by others just like them, before their time, for the sole purpose  of taking unfair advantage of lesser educated humans for personal enrichment, and they are good with that.

Not just the rulers and trade family descendants, but millions more happily serving their masters, knowing they are leading humanity into a "culling" designed to eliminate over 90% of the global population, but expecting themselves and their immediate family to be spared.

How could we possibly weed these people out? What, just murder everyone? Do we include their innocent families too, in order to avoid distraught sons and daughters from taking revenge?

Under what organization could we control every military to act wholly in defense of The People on the very same day and the exact same moment?

Whom exactly are “The People” in We The People? Is that us, sorry, it isn't, unless you are about 260 years old, you could not have possibly signed, or have been represented at the signing.

My point here is that just as America was gradually steered away from her origin, so also is our only path back.  One step at a time.

Trump’s election was a direct result of a commoners uprising. Americans took back their Power and forced the hand of the corrupted establishment.

This is the lesson that needs to be understood.

Instead, the pushback from an alarmed establishment, petrified Americans might actually wake up and seize their rightful control, has enabled “morally challenged” to declare their treason to America’s principles is justified by the personal desire to not be forced to be a productive individual.

Instead of rejoicing in the experience of thwarting our eminent doom, we are forced to defend the first election that was The People’s choice in decades.

Yes, of course Trump has the potential to be as bad a leader as ocrap head was, ESPECIALLY if he is forced to make compromise in order to retain the power to do ANYTHING constructive, EXACTLY like Reagan was forced to do, because America was still asleep, and did not understand, or realize,  the Peoples Advocate they had in power.

And for as long as we are forced to defend ourselves for steering America off the cliff with the speed clintion would have crashed us, the longer the path back will take.

Not only that, but the deals Trump is forced to make with the establishment now will affect his ability to make positive change, were he even motivated to do so by public demand.

I don’t think you actually believed Clinton was any better, so you probably did not vote.

If not, then, in reality, you do not even have a voice in this aftermath, but you are demanding to continue to perpetuate the divide, and have become a force of opposition to the first victory of patriots that have been working for decades to turn this country around.

Unless you have a better plan?

Do you already have an organization ready to step in? They have negotiated agreements with all the trade families, and how exactly will the transition of manufacturing, shipping, distribution, retailing, elimination of currency, and the thousands of other goods, services, and products needed for daily survival are supplied.

Your organization, it is also ready to step in and what, just murder everyone in government?

What about the ones that are true patriots? Who decides?

 Exactly when did the rest of America vote them into power?

The reality is, you don’t have a plan, no secret organization, not 100 million patriots ready and competent to just step in.

So unless you have a better way, this is the ONLY way the rest of us can figure out how to make a change.

And that means the only thing you are doing is standing in our way, intentionally creating a situation for failure, just so you can continue to advocate no plan. Or, for anarchy and chaos.

I’ve taken the time to write out this response in the last effort to help guide you to see a different reality than the one you have convinced yourself of.

Anything can be predicted, how can you continue to build a divide among The People?

Why do you hate America so?

DM

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18 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

so you probably did not vote.

 

As always DV great information and perspective. Of course I voted, but not for either party. No I don't want to murder everyone in government, I simply wish voters would step back, take a break from the routine and vote outside the box. One election with no votes for democrats or republicans would do more to change the future than 100 wars ever could.

 

Even with your vast understanding of the corruption, you still follow the herd and vote for the same party expecting a different result. Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. Change will only come when voters actually change their vote.

 

B/A 

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1 minute ago, bostonangler said:

 

As always DV great information and perspective. Of course I voted, but not for either party. No I don't want to murder everyone in government, I simply wish voters would step back, take a break from the routine and vote outside the box. One election with no votes for democrats or republicans would do more to change the future than 100 wars ever could.

 

Even with your vast understanding of the corruption, you still follow the herd and vote for the same party expecting a different result. Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. Change will only come when voters actually change their vote.

 

B/A 

 

Hang onto your knickers, B/A....your above highlighted statement is sure to earn you an insult laced diatribe of epic proportions.  :lol:

 

GO RV, then BV

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4 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

As always DV great information and perspective. Of course I voted, but not for either party. No I don't want to murder everyone in government, I simply wish voters would step back, take a break from the routine and vote outside the box. One election with no votes for democrats or republicans would do more to change the future than 100 wars ever could.

 

Even with your vast understanding of the corruption, you still follow the herd and vote for the same party expecting a different result. Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. Change will only come when voters actually change their vote.

 

B/A 

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Heck yeah, "second star on the right and straight on till morning"  How many children earnestly and fervently wished that Peter Pan would come flying through their own window, some even left the window open for weeks until their parents found out. 

It did them as much good as you wishing no one would vote one election, and then wishing that alone would send such an earth shattering message that every corrupted politician would immediately feel so remorseful they turned themselves in, then wishing the remaining ones would willingly give up the power they spent decades amassing, then wishing everyone instantly knew exactly how to act, and then wishing ... what else?

Do you actually expect the same politicians caught red-handed, then swear on a bible they were innocent, only to beg the court for leniency because they didn’t mean to do it, or they have a “problem” they are getting help with, thus proving they were lying as they swore an oath on a bible, to just take the “hint”?

 

How much more magic do you want? Exactly how long have you been “wishing”?

Days, weeks, months, years? Every night, or just on the special ones when earth mother star is lined up with Venus and whatever the heck other magic constellations are that give those who refuse to let go of fantasies seem to so desperately cling to.

 

And you call me insane????

 

Just because I can’t be bothered to wish on a star, or daydream of a whole new reality magically appearing without ever having to lift a finger only makes me a realist, you might want to check that delusion at the door.

 

Unless of course, instead you wished some “other” people would step up with a whole new gang of politicians, but these are real live honest ones, and they just magically met yesterday?

Because unless you are also honest enough to accept you are wishing that everyone ELSE does all the work required to take back the out of control government, then you are indeed lying, even to yourself.

 

Isn’t it time to grow up and deal with the real world?

Until you accept the fact that if you want change, you have to BE that change, you won’t be able to convince any but the weakest of minds.

Corrupt politicians have already proved they will fight to continue their pillaging, secret deals, and theft of America for personal profit until they are dragged away kicking and screaming and calling everyone else a thief and a racist pig.

 

You got one thing partly right, but have obviously forgotten exactly what it means, “Change will only come when voters actually change their vote”, of course, but change their vote to whom?

Until people become engaged, and help others do the same, the ONLY ones applying for the job are others wanting their piece of the power tripping corruption pie.

It’s as pathetic as parents who get high and drunk screaming at their kids for getting into their stash, yelling at the kid in the principal’s office after they were caught with drugs, declaring you TOLD them drugs are bad, and are amazed they didn’t listen.

 

How dare you be so dishonest as to expect everyone else to do all the grindingly hard work so YOU can sit back and enjoy the rewards?

 

 Unless the new replacement politicians know we are actively watching them because we have been sending them letters, going to town halls, organizing our neighbors, working phone banks, and DEMANDING change, in their face, they will just slip back into the old ways as soon as everyone is gone.

When, I wonder, will you finally grow up and accept your responsibility as an American? Or haven’t you figured it out yet?

What the colonists started, that “thing” called the revolutionary war, that’s a battle that never ended. If we want freedom we have to earn it.

If you are not willing to get off your rear end and join the fight, who the heck do you think you are sitting in judgment of those that do?
 

Your accusing me of “following the herd” is as ignorantly stupid as it is offensive.

It is as laughable as “billy the zipper” swearing he never had relations with Monica, and only proves you may very well be living in an alternate reality.

You go on, sit back in your enlightened intellectual station, dream of all your wishes coming true, laugh at progressives for the way they sit back in their own self-centered dreams of a socialism with no corruption, but when you try to ridicule those who have already given thousands of personal time hours, lost time from work in order to work for free as a volunteer staff, organizer, doorbell the neighborhood, or any of the many tasks required to get someone else elected, then your contempt is woefully misplaced.

If you are too busy being so self-absorbed that you refuse to lift a finger except to broadcast your laziness and ignorance, so be it, but you should really get out of the way of everyone else that has rolled up their sleeves and went to work.

 

I accept you have only learned enough words to sound like you might actually give a damn, but in reality are either too lazy, or, a progressive who has learned to lie very well. It does come naturally to them, after all, they have to lie to themselves to just convince themselves a big government collective is the answer.

I had to give this you last earnest attempt at logic, but if you are determined to live an illusion, that is your right.

Good luck with your wishing.

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2 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

Until you accept the fact that if you want change, you have to BE that change

 

I did my part. I voted third party.. You voted corrupt party.

 

2 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

When, I wonder, will you finally grow up and accept your responsibility

 

I did my part. I voted third party.. You voted corrupt party.

 

2 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

How dare you be so dishonest as to expect everyone else to do all the grindingly hard work so YOU can sit back and enjoy the rewards?

 

I did my part. I voted third party.. You voted corrupt party.

 

I have spent most of my time explaining to people or as you so eloquently put it "sending them letters, going to town halls, organizing our neighbors, working phone banks, and DEMANDING change, in their face" to get out of the two party system and make a stand... But of course they continue down the same path and whine about it. What will we hear from Trump supporters next year or the year after? "I can't believed he lied" "I can't believe he was just another broken promise" "I can't believe that I believed him"

 

You can continue to insult me with your little quips, you can continue to push your rightwing agenda, you can continue to believe republicans will deliver, or you can make a stand and send them a message you are not going to take it anymore... The right to choose is yours....

 

B/A

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4 hours ago, rw.sutton said:

Trump has done more in less than 6 months, with 1/2 of his cabinet, than your buddies have in 8 years, Give us a break, and go sit, eloquently,  in your phone rooms, and make yourself feel good!

 

Man, you should have been here a couple days ago, would have saved me some serious typing for the same result....

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You have to remember Trump is from the "Land of the CEO"........In this land the CEO is only as good as those he has around him.  This is why he allows Mattis to take the lead in his area of expertise.  A great CEO does not believe he has to "micro-manage every detail.  If you look at the leaders of countries who have had success........you will see this same concept......Ron Reagan worked from 9-5....... 5 days a week .........the reason he said was because he had good people in place that were capable........Bill Clinton had the same philosophy, and he spent his free time eating Burgers and chasing Women....There are many parallels between Government and Business........JMO as always

 

 

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