Is the Earth Flat?

[SnowGlobe7]

happens to me all the time Dog

[Shabibilicious]

happens to me all the time Dog

 

If the flat earth wasn't ascending at an obscene rate, fueled by devilish dark matter.....you wouldn't even need a counter to sleep on.....you could literally drift off to sleep, Fur Ball.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[SnowGlobe7]

like this..just floating...

 

you cant see the glass so it it not there

[Shabibilicious]

like this..just floating...

 

you cant see the glass so it it not there

 

I'm not really comfortable getting a good look at the under carriage.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[Peace]

Machine its gonna take me some time to get to your post cuz obviously i gotta spend time on it. But im on it... In the meantime here is the following.... SOOOOOOOOOOO KEEP HOLDING ON TO YOUR PANTS GLOBALISTS. cuz what i have figured out is MAINSTREAM science does NOT have it figured out! I will be back.

 

 

"Herbert Ives, famous physicist pointed out that the only way to carry on believing in Relativity (that there is not aether) was to avoid looking at the evidence."

 

 

Interestingly enough there are a number of explanations of such problems for Einsteins " Special Theory of Relativity" (STR) which appeal to his "General Theory of Relativity" (GTR) Now STR cannot have an aether and must have a constant velocity of light. On the other hand GTR is, as Einstein put it "unthinkable without the aether" and cannot tolerat a constant velocity of light. The two theories are mutually exclusive. At least one must be wrong. The two theories are mutually exclusive. At least one must be wrong. To solve difficulties for one by calling in the other is clearly invalid.

 

NO EXPERIMENT has ever been performed with such excruciating persistence and meticulous precision and in every conceivable manner, than that of trying to detect and measure the motion of the Earth, yet, they have all consistently and continually yielded a velocity for the earth of exacly ZERO mph.

The toil of thousands of exasperated researchers, on the extremely varied experiments of Arago, DeCoudres induction, Fizeau, Fresnall Drag, Hoek, Jasegas lasers, Jenkins, Klinkerfauss, Michelson-Morley interferimetry, Lord Rayleighs polarimetry, Troughton-Noble torque and the Famous 'Airys Failure' experiment, all conclusively failed to show any rotational or translational movement for the earth, whatsoever.

 

All the above statements is in the vid. I had to transpose this...but its in the vid.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Peace

[boosterbglee]

Sno....your cat postings make my day so much better!  I can't give you enough greenies!  

[SnowGlobe7]

Just bringing comic relief to this silly adventure we call life!!!!

[EagleEye]

and if you don't REALLY believe in gravitational pull jump off the top of the highest building you can find...you will make a nice greasy spot when you hit...and likely earn a Darwin Award for your efforts... LMBO

[chess]

Like the 2 guys at the bar....one jumps off the stool and bounds high around the room. Other guy sez, "how'd you do that?"

 

...."my special drink I'm having"......"barkeep, gimme one of those".....drinks it, jumps off the stool, breaks both a leg and a arm!

 

Barkeep sez to other guy...."Superman, you really are an @$$hole!"

[SocalDinar]

[SocalDinar]

And just like L Ron Hubbard, Daniel Shenton ( Founder of the Flat Earth Society )was out to make money.

 

Edited October 28, 2015 by SocalDinar

[SocalDinar]

Flat Landers just cant explain how the Sun dances around the Earth drastically changing directions between seasons without any reason or explanation

[The Machine]

Which one is more likely ...... oh and by the way Peace you do know which book backs up your theory ...... the Koran yep that peaceful religion thats based on facts lol

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2015 by The Machine

[SocalDinar]

[The Machine]

Which one is more likely ...... oh and by the way Peace you do know which book backs up your theory ...... the Koran yep that peaceful religion thats based on facts lol

 

 

 

 

I forgot to mention written by a crazy pedophile 

[Xtaxguy]

To those few of you that are taking this thread seriously:  you are proof of the adverse effects on knowledge and the advancement of science due to the compromising of the theory of natural selection by modern improvements in nutrition, medical care, etc.  Translation:  in the good old days dumb asses usually died very young, without reproducing.  

[SocalDinar]

I forgot to mention written by a crazy pedophile 

So friggin true it's not Funny but I'm LMAO

Thanks Machine

[The Machine]

To those few of you that are taking this thread seriously:  you are proof of the adverse effects on knowledge and the advancement of science due to the compromising of the theory of natural selection by modern improvements in nutrition, medical care, etc.  Translation:  in the good old days dumb asses usually died very young, without reproducing.  

       

[Peace]

I did say I wouldnt come back but its been one hell of a day in the office and I needed a laugh...... the 7 pages of this thread did not disappoint

 

so to stir the pot a little and keep these hilarious flat earth maniacs posting, below is a little something I found on the internet. prove it wrong I dare you..... with real evidence this time, you know like something scientifically accredited not some jeb bush voters ramblings

 

 

If you've dabbled in the internet's pseudoscience pages, NASAS ARCHIVES you've probably encountered the Flat Earth Society. Their name is self-explanatory: they are a group of people who believe that the Earth is flat. For most people, this scores them a VIP seat in the bullshit box.  However, there is a small group of people who don't dismiss their theories, and an even smaller group who accept it as truth. It should be painfully obvious that the Earth is round, but if you absolutely cannot see it, I will disprove the flat Earth theory.

Evidence for the flat Earth theory

On this (1) page, the FES outlines the evidence for their theory. I will briefly review it before debunking it. The FES's first piece of evidence for a flat Earth is that the Earth looks flat from the ground. They also offer the Bedford Level Experiment (2) as proof that the Earth is flat. In response to questions about how astronauts report a round Earth and pictures from space show a round Earth, the FES says that the pictures are faked and that the space agencies of the world are engaged in a conspiracy to falsely disprove the flat Earth theory. They say that the Sun acts as a spotlight and circles above the Earth, better explained by this diagram (3), and that the seasons are caused by the Sun's circle in the sky expanding and contracting. They also say that gravity does not exist, and instead what is felt as gravity is the upward acceleration of the Earth at 9.81 m/s^2. The Earth is supposedly being accelerated by dark matter, and it can supposedly accelerate forever due to Special Relativity.

Debunking the Flat Earth Theory

The very first claim is a qualitative analysis of the world. It basically says: the Earth looks flat, so it is flat! IT IS However, they fail to mention that a very large sphere would appear to be flat to someone standing on it. NO THAT IS JUST WHAT YOU ASSUME YOU PAID NAZI Either that or they think that a round Earth wouldn't look flat to those standing on it. 

Their second argument about the Bedford Level Experiment is an outright lie.  Before I go into detail about how they lied, I will first explain the experiment. The experiment's purpose was to determine if the surface of the water was curved or flat. Three buoys with long vertical sticks attached to them were placed in a river with negligible water flow velocity and were separated by 5 miles. A telescope was set up perpendicular to the river a mile away from the center post. If the water, and consequently the Earth, was flat, the posts should all appear to be the same height. However, the telescope showed that the center post was five feet higher than the other two posts, thus proving that the water's surface was in fact curved, and giving strong evidence of a round Earth. However, the FES makes a bald-faced lie and says that the experiment was faked and that the poles were actually at the same height. They give no evidence that the experiment was faked, and they give no evidence that a court determined that it was faked. In fact, on their Bedford Level Experiment page (4), there are no outside links at all, putting the page's credibility in question, especially since other reports by reliable sources conflict with it.

 

alrighty then... ok firstly, there have been many experiments carried out on the canal. this specific i didn't read about until today, having said that the first issue is i was looking at Samual Rowbotham (sp) experiment carried out in 1838, in which he stood in the river and look out across the river (parallel) with his scope and watched a boat with a 5ft mast never drop below the horizon at 6 miles out. this guy chooses the one comically horrific fight between wallace and the other guy (can't remember)... so first off wrong experiment. secondly wallace chose to the experiment perpendicular to the river, right away i knew the obvious problem...so i checked to find that he was using a theodolite to do his experiment (surveyor tool) while looking at the river from the side... already i knew his lens had to be concave, looked into it and im right... remove the lens and then its straight... not only that his experiment showed the center line to above the other two...interesting because if its following a curve the first line would have been above the second and the second above the third...thats not the case...so this guy chooses this experiment to help him but doesn't help at all...cuz only the center vertical post rises above the first  and third...concave lens...btw the bedford level would mean you have to be like samual and get in the river and face parallell... right???!! YES BRANDY YES. samual 1838   wallace debacle 1870 not the one im referencing which by the way is laughable.

The FES also addresses the big question on everyone's mind: why do pictures from space show a round Earth? Their answer: the pictures are faked, and so is all space travel. This is an unfalsifiable statement, that is to say there is nothing that can possibly disprove it. This is usually a sign of a logical flaw. In this case, I believe the FES is saying the pictures are fake so that their theory can survive. Pictures from space of a round Earth would disprove the flat Earth theory. However, the people of the FES are convinced that their theory is right, so they see anything conflicting with it as wrong. Round Earth pictures from space conflict with the flat Earth theory, and since (in their minds) the flat Earth theory is real, the pictures must be fake. In their minds, any pictures of the Earth from space would show it to be flat, but since these pictures show a round Earth and are being presented by NASA, the pictures must be fake and NASA must be lying. That is the origin of their conspiracy theory, and it comes from the flawed belief that their theory is right and anything saying otherwise is wrong. Of course, there is no actual evidence that the pictures are fake and that NASA never sent astronauts to space, and lots of evidence of the contrary.

 

Your whole basis rests on the assumption about NASA the forked tongue serpent not faking space travel, which they obviously have....bubbles in space (um yea in a pool)... whistleblower of nasa which is also in this thread who was the manager of the digital computer faking desk who made composites and if you just watch even a snippet will have you questioning...not to mention the thermosphere in which aluminum and all the other high tech crap (sarcasm) they use to get through that SUCCESSFULLY!! would have melted...not only that just google moon landing hoax and look at all the glaring discrepancies. also they say thermosphere is somehow so hot it is actually cold because of the vacuum...well then answer how the sun heat reaches us then...its because the sun is inside the dome/firmament...

Another issue they address is how the day and night cycle works on a flat Earth. The FES says that the Sun acts as a spotlight on the Earth and it circles overhead (see the diagram in source 3). However, they completely fail to explain why the Sun is a spotlight, what causes it to rotate above the Earth, and why its orbit expands and contracts to cause the seasons. As will be discussed later, the round Earth theory can explain all of the observed motions of the Sun, moon, stars, and planets, the day and night cycle, and the seasons. Thus, the burden of proof lies with the FES to prove these wrong and their own theory right. They have failed at both of these.

 

Furthermore, there is evidence against these claims. If the Earth is flat, and the Sun is always circling above it, why do we see the Sun set? Even if its "spotlight" isn't shining on us anymore, it should still be overhead, albeit at an angle. But this doesn't happen. We see the Sun approach and pass below the horizon. For this to happen on a flat Earth, the Sun would have to actually pass below the plane of the Earth for us to see it pass below the horizon. not at all its called vanishing point But this isn't what the theory says. If the Sun actually were like a giant flashlight, and if we were about to pass outside of its light, it should appear to grow dimmer and eventually wink out somewhere in the sky. But this doesn't happen. The FES completely ignores the sunset, couldnt be more wrong they are talking about the sunset probably because it doesn't fit their theory. but it does Unless they can explain this, their theory is incomplete. yes they can its called PERSPECTIVE!

 

Furthermore, what causes the Sun to move in a circle in the sky? Newton's first law says that an object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. If there were no forces acting on the Sun, it should either sit still or fly off in a straight line. AGREED So, there has to be something causing it to move in a circle. YES The FES doesn't say what. ELECTRICITY AND MAGNETSISM Is it a massive, invisible object over the Earth's north pole that the Sun orbits around? No, because they don't believe in gravity VACUUM  (discussed later). Is it some magnetic field that's causing the Sun to move in a circle? YES and its MAGNETISM AND ELECTRICAL  No, it couldn't be, because the Sun isn't solid, so there would be nothing keeping the particles in a perfect sphere, and they might stretch out to form some kind of a halo, and our compasses would always point in the direction of the field, which would have to be either towards the ground or towards the sky.  Could it be some invisible electric charge above the North pole?  No, because the Sun would still stretch out. I THINK HE MEANS MAGNETISM Could it be the strong or weak nuclear forces? No, they don't act on a macroscopic level. Since there are no natural forces left,  could it be a contact force? No, we don't see anything pushing the Sun, and if there were something, it would deform the Sun's spherical shape. SAYS WHO? Since there cannot be any natural or contact forces making the Sun orbit above the North pole, it is physically impossible for it to be happening. ELECTRICAL/MAGNETIC This means that the seasons can't be caused by the expansion and contraction of the Sun's orbit, which doesn't make sense in its own right, because the Sun can't orbit an invisible point above the North pole. A MAGNET CAN

 

AWESOME VIDEO OF MAGNETS AND ELECTRICITY!!!

 

 

Their final piece of "evidence" for the flat Earth theory is what gravity is. VACUUM They believe that there is no such force as gravity, BUT THEY DO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING PUNK GUY WHOSE MAKING FALSE CLAIMS and what we feel as gravity is instead the continuous acceleration of the flat Earth upwards at 9.81 m/s^2. WHAT??!! CUZ THE EARTH IS NOT MOVING AT ALL IT IS STATIONARY JUST LOOK BACK ON ANY OF THE VIDS THAT SHOW SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS WHICH BTW THIS GUY DOESNT They say that Einstein's special relativity says that an object can accelerate infinitely without reaching the speed of light, and that the acceleration is caused by dark energy. WHATS HILARIOUS IS NOT ONLY IS EINSTEIN A FARCE BUT HE HAS TWO THEORIES OF RELATIVITY THAT THE STR THAT DOES NOT support AETHER AND GTR THAT DOES support AETHER... THEY ARE A 180 OF ONE ANOTHER AND THIS GUY GETS TO USE WHICHEVER HE NEEDS IN WHICHEVER MOMENT HE WANTS!!The FES grossly misinterprets what special relativity says about infinite acceleration. It says that an object can accelerate infinitely without reaching the speed of light, but the magnitude of its acceleration must decay exponentially. AND WHAT DOES THE GTR SAY PULLING RABBITS OUT OF HATS For example, you may reach 299,792,458 m/s (1 m/s less than the speed of light) at an acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2. However, you cannot continue accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2, because in 1 second you would be going 8.81 m/s faster than the speed of light. So, your acceleration would have to decrease, so that it would have to be less than the speed of light minus your current speed. Since the speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s, and the person's speed in this example is 299,792,457 m/s, the difference between the two is 1 m/s. So, the new acceleration would have to be less than 1 m/s^2. It could be 0.9 m/s^2 (although it may not be this), so that 1 second later the person would be traveling at 299,792,457.9 m/s, and the next second's acceleration would have to be less than 0.1 m/s^2. Therefore, an object can theoretically accelerate forever, but it cannot accelerate at the same magnitude forever. This means that, if the Earth is constantly accelerating upward at 9.81 m/s^2, after a certain amount of time it should approach the speed of light and "gravity" should appear to get rapidly weaker. How long would this take? We can find out using one of the "big four" kinematics equations (5). This one deals with objects at constant accelerations and can find the time it will take to reach a certain velocity. The equation is this:

 

    AWESOM VID

 

EINSTEIN IS A FRAUD THIS IS ALL FUZZY MATH JUST LOOK AT ACTUAL EXPERIMENTS NOT ONES WRITTEN ON PAPER EXPECTED TO BE TRUE WITH NO OBSERVATIONAL EXPERIMENTS...HE WAS A TOOL GUYS HE WAS A TOOOOOL. EXPLAIN MICHELSON, MORLEY, GALE, AIREY, AND OTHERS WHO PROVED WITH ACTUAL EXPERIMENTS WHAT THE HOAXTER EINSTEIN COULDN'T...

 

http://www.crank.net/einstein.html

vf = vo + a*t

Vf is an object's final velocity, vo is an object's starting velocity, a is acceleration, and t is time. We want to find how long it would take the Earth starting at 0 m/s to reach the speed of light, assuming its acceleration is 9.81 m/s^2. The speed of light will be vf, 0 will be vo, since it started at rest, a will be 9.81, since it is its acceleration, and t will be solved for algebraically. The equation now becomes: 

299,792,458 = 0 + 9.81 * t

Just divide 299,792,458 by 9.81 and you have the time it will take in seconds for the Earth to theoretically reach light speed.

t = 30,559,883.6 seconds

Sounds like a lot, right? WHEW YES IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FILLER Let's do some conversions. LETS! BECAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE UP MORE SPACE TO LOOK LEGIT 60 seconds are in a minute, YA so if we divide the seconds by 60, we get 509,331.4 minutes. 60 minutes are in an hour, so divide again by 60, and we get 8,488.9 hours. 24 hours are in a day, so divide by 24 and we get 353.7 days. That's right, it would take a little less than a year for a flat Earth accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2 to approach the speed of light and begin decelerating. We've all been alive for over a year, and we've all felt gravity just as strong as the year before. There is absolutely NO WAY that upward acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2 is causing what we feel as gravity. Not to mention, there is no explanation for how dark energy is supposedly causing the acceleration. This entire part is bogus.BLAH BLAH BLAH If gravity VACUUM/MAGNETISM/ELECTRICAL existed on this flat Earth, and if the flat Earth were not accelerating, gravity would still point to the center of the Earth, and the further away from the center someone walked, the more inclined gravity would be, until near the edges gravity would be almost vertical. There is no explanation for what we feel as gravity on a flat Earth, so the Earth cannot be flat. SAYS YOU THE GUY WHO PROLLY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY FOR A DEGREE WORKING FOR IBM AND DOESN'T WANT HIS ENTIRE LIFES WORK TO BE WROUGHT WITH FRAUD OR A WASTEFUL UNDERTAKING...I GET IT...BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST TRY TO TO CONSIDER THAT THERE ARE OTHER FORCES AT WORK...

 

Evidence for the round Earth theory

Now that I have proven that the Earth is not flat, ON THE CONTRARY YOU SOUND LIKE EINSTEIN AND NEWTON I will give the evidence that the Earth is round. Assuming that NASA and other space agencies aren't involved in a conspiracy to fake space travel, THEY ARE JUST USE YOUR EYES INSTEAD OF READING THE WORDS IT MEANS MUCH MORE as is very likely the case, the most compelling evidence for a round Earth are pictures of Earth from space. BS Even if you refuse to accept these as evidence, there are still several other pieces of evidence that the Earth is round. Take this picture for example (6). You can see that the water stretches all the way out to the horizon. If the Earth were flat, and the water's surface was flat as well, shouldn't you be able to see the land on the other side? DOWNRIGHT BLATANT LIE In fact, why is there even a horizon at all if the Earth is flat? PERSPECTIVE/VANISHING POINT Flat Earth theory can't explain it, but round Earth theory can. PARROT OF NASA A horizon is caused by the curvature of the Earth. COULDNT BE MORE WRONG AS IN THE VID ABOVE The reason that you can't see the shoreline in the picture is because it is being blocked by the water, due to the curvature of the Earth. Another thing that proves the Earth is round is a lunar eclipse. When the Earth casts its shadow on the moon as the moon passes behind it, the shadow is curved. Flat Earthers may argue that this is because the Earth is disc-shaped, but then again, in their theory the moon is never supposed to pass behind the Earth. true cuz the earth is flat it goes around a circuit It's always supposed to be right up in the sky, opposite the Sun it its orbit. The flat Earth theory also cannot explain the change of a star's altitude as one moves North or South, THEY DO AND ITS ON THE THREAD but the round Earth theory can. As one travels a significant distance South, he or she will notice that the stars have changed altitude, and some new ones have appeared in the southern Sky. This is because they have walked across a curved surface, and so they are looking at a different patch of sky than before. LOL ITS BECAUSE THE STARS ARE MOVING There are many, many other things that flat Earth theory cannot explain which round Earth theory can. I will list a few here: parallax, plate tectonics, nuclear fusion, black holes, equatorial circumnavigation, orbits, lunar phases, inverse square nature of light, the Candevish experiment, red and blue-shifting, and retrograde motion. NICE WORDS, BLACK HOLES DONT EXIST, ORBITS FOLLOW A CIRCUIT AROUND THE POLE, CIRCUMNAVIGATION IS STILL POSSIBLE, INVERSE SQUARE NATURE SOUNDS LIKE YOU PULLED IT OUT YOUR YASS PROBABLY EINSTEINS THIRD THEORY, ALL OF THESE HAVE ANSWERS!

There's a reason why flat Earth theory was thrown out two thousand years ago YEA MASS MURDERING LUNATICS and hasn't been considered since. THATS BECAUSE OF PROGRAMMING/BRAINWASHING Whatever the motivations of the Flat Earth Society are, it should now be absolutely clear IT IS NOT CRYSTAL SIR  that flat Earth theory is completely wrong and that round Earth theory is correct. 

Sources / Links

1. http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ

2. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C00EFDF113EEE34BC4852DFBE66838A669FDE&oref=slogin

3. http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/images/a/a1/Seasons.png

4. http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bedford_Level_Experiment

5. http://www.physicsclassroom.com/calcpad/1dkin/

6. http://macmanx.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/the-open-ocean.jpg

 

 

BTW FOUR OF THOSE LINKS WERE BUSTED CUZ I REALLY WANTED TO SEE HIS PICS BUT WHATEVER.

 

now can we have a discussion?

Edited October 29, 2015 by Peace

[Peace]

 SERIOUSLY AWESOME VID I PUT IT UP ABOVE BUT SOME MAY MISS 

[Peace]

Flat Landers just cant explain how the Sun dances around the Earth drastically changing directions between seasons without any reason or explanation

 

cuz your not looking its all there

[SocalDinar]

Santa Barbara Island is located 42 miles west of our local beaches. You can never see it from the beach.Never!   Its just not there. Even on the clearest day. 

But if you go up into the Santa Monica mountains  which are right on the coastline you can start to see the very tip top of it as you ascend . As you continue to go higher into the mountains you can see more and more of the Island.

cuz your not looking its all there

But what causes the constellations to move in different locations through out the year..  Are they moving billions and trillions of miles on their own every six months and then back again Year after year after year. ?

Are the trillions and trillions of others stars flat also. Is our sun flat ?  Do you believe that Noah built a huge ark and somehow got 2 of every species on it?  Why did he not save the Dire wolves?

How thick is our flat Earth? If you stand on the edge of the Earth at a right angle and jump will you fall to the center which is most likely Kansas.

If you stand on the other side of flat earth what are you standing on? Are there more people over there?

If the earth has no core then how do we have a magnetic field.

What holds our atmosphere in/ The Ice wall?

[SocalDinar]

Where do those satellites go that i can see in the night sky. Do they just zig zag back and forth across the sky. 

 

Have you ever seen Capricorn 1 with OJ?  Do you think OJ killed his wife?

[SocalDinar]

Where does lava come from? Why is it there?   Was the space shuttle a hologram which Nasa projected from the coast of Florida? 

 

You do know that NASA uses a fish eyed lens which over emphasizes the curvature of the earth otherwise they would need to have a 100 yard selphie pole to get those shots we see.

Do you believe that John Smith found some Gold tablets that no one else could see.?  How about Bigfoot and Nessie? 

Have you ever seen a grown man naked?  Do you like gladiator movies? Do you watch Nascar?

How about those pesky dinosaurs? Did they ever exist? Are those fake bones we find. Do you think Nasa created the Grand Canyon? Why does the water flow when the world if Flat. Or is it just kind of flat?

Why is there less gravity the farther you get from Earth?

Do you really think that the Earth is slowing falling like a big old paper plate dropping from the sky.  If I am in Death valley am I  below sea level a or is sea level above me?

If you fly a plane in one direction long enough will you eventually  be in space?

Are the other planets real and are they also flat?    Where does Nasa get its astronauts? Do they go to the actors guild? 

[SocalDinar]

Totally worth watching!!

 

Edited October 29, 2015 by SocalDinar