Aliens

[dog53]

Absoulutly . Theres no way my ex-wife could possibly be from this world

[elmstreet61]

That would give reincarnation more validity in a sense but I live my life for the present and hope whatever the afterlife brings ill be in good standing won't know till I get there though

Great point. I think that the whole idea really is to live in the NOW....no sense in wondering what your next "phase"of existence might be...or for that matter...what your last one was...just live NOW...and make all of your decisions count.

I don't see this life in terms of good and evil...I see each choice I make in terms of: is this choice I am about to make EVOlutionary...or DEVOlutionary in nature? In other words.....will i evolve spiritually....or will I go backwards in my journey?

In another of Scrums posts....he put up a video about the true nature of 2012.... Whether that video is accurate or not...some great points are made....about our current need for...and the true nature of...MONEY.

I've read some great books written by so called abductees who were taken to the "alien" planet...and they all say the same thing.....there's no money on those planets....there is total peace and harmony...no fighting...no bitchiness...no jealousy...no struggling.

There they spend the days creating great things....making awesome music....excelling in superb non competitive physical activities...flying around on personal anti gravity devices.....and if there is anything even close to anything resembling money on those planets...then their currency of choice is.......ADMIRATION. Yup! How good is THAT?!!!

Communities on those planets take turns in working to grow food...so that there is no difference between farmers or supermodels on those planets, lol!!!! Everyone gets a fair share of the work load...and no......you don't get paid...but...you do get to go along to the "markets" every day...and just take what you need....free of charge.

No competition...no fighting for territory or resources.....just days filled with wonder, discovery, fun and awesome health. These beings can live for many thousands of years......the 120 year lifespan gene .....or the early death gene has been implanted into us humans...to keep our lives short, so,we don't get to evolve in one life time...and are easier to manage and enslave...and serve our masters.....those who have our lives in their clutches....who control most of our politicians...I say most....99.99% of politicians and leaders....there is one USA politician who is...as far as I can tell...NOT totally owned by these creatures...and I so hope he gets to be your next president....you KNOW who I am talking about, yes?

End the wars....end the fear.....start living in love and wonder and caring and sharing NOW. Never mind about the life hereafter....keep your focus on being the best you you can be NOW.

Find these books...they are fun to read....I couldn't put them down once I got into them...wow!!

Thiaooba Prophecy by Michel Desmarquet

Coevolution by A Newald

And while you are there, you might like to discover the SOLOMON ISLAND MYSTERIES......alien life is out in the open and almost a daily occurrance in parts of the Solomon Islands. UFOs flying around by every night ...so commonplace that the locals don't evenay attention anymore.....they do advise people not to engage with the UFOs as some locals have been fried by them.....the UFOs come out of a series of lakes, as well as some caves...fly around at sunset...and return after a few hours...back into the lake...and disappear under water........there are 9 to 12 foot tall men and women with alien ancestors.....some of those are still living today.....and how about this for an extraordinary fact......the Solomon island native farmers are complaining about this black sticky stuff that's oozing out of their farmlands.....yes....the oil is soooo close to the surface there...it's upsetting farmers...LOL!!! They have a huge amount of oil...but the powers that be are keeping it all very hush hush.....not only oil, but it seems that the hillsides are absolutely riddled with precious stones and gold. There are Aussie mining companies fighting together a foot in the door there...but doing deals with the local kings is proving quite difficult....some court cases going on right now.

The Solomon Islands are north east of Australia and Papua New Guinea...and the Aussie govt has a strong "security presence" there...security....sure.......yes our Aussie leaders are learning from you Americans.... Anyway...getting off topic here...but...go get the very well written book by Marius Boirayon Solomon Islands Mysteries....rea

Accounts of..UFOs Giants etc....... Available from solomonislandmysteries dot com or nexusmagazine dot com A cracking read.

As for aliens appearance? I suggest that due to the golden mean formula....they all kind of look like us......I mean....our own world is made up of various alien races....in fact the Hebrews came from a planet that is one step up from our own evolutionary level....that may be why the Hebrews consider themselves a cut above the rest of the world...they sure seem to get all the best gigs, right? Brilliant film makers...doctors...lawyers...artists......they all seem to have BERG or STEIN or MAN in thei names, don't they?

The Chinese were from yet another planet...so were the Africans......and the white folk...Nordics came from another planet again. The Africans and the Asian races started to take and inter marry...and that gave rise to the Arabic blend.

The Chinese race initially landed in what we now call Australia...they brought with them animals for food...such as kangaroos...and they introduced wheat into this planet....they NEVER ate rice...until they came here.....and discovered this local wild grass with edible seeds.....and then rice was developed....but their original food was wheat...and kangaroo meat is the leanest and healthiest red meat on this earth. You can get it here at the butcher or supermarket...it costs less than beef...and is really tasty....rich with iron...but almost zero fat!! The reason it's so cheap.....kangaroos breed very succesfully and some years, they get into plague numbers...so they are culled and the meat sold to supermarkets...and their skin used for souvenirs. Also a main ingredient in a lot of dog food.

Interesting response? I hope you think so...I don't want money...just admiration, LOL....yeah right...that's why i am posting on a DINAR website, right!?!?!

Let's go RV!!! So I can use that money for great causes here on earth......and then let's get rid of money and create a great new level of existence no money...no fed...no taxes..

Just harmonious community living...it's all amazing suppressed technologies released for public good and enjoyment......the government would be made up of only the wisest and most caring individuals...and each person in government would get a three month term...then it's someone else's turn....each regional governor is elected by their local community as a representative for the larger area...country...whatever rose territories will be called......

There will be no police, no army.....no punishment...but there will be a team of people elected each three months, to oversee schedules for farming, store keeping...etc...all unpaid work...neither will the governors be paid...nobody gets paid......just lots of love and mutual admiration for great works.

In the rare case that someone should step out of line...there will be a non punishment way of dealing with that too.

Looking forward.....let's all co rate such a world...and let us start right now, by refusing to lie in fear.....the bad guys want to keep us in a state of fear....but we have the power to refuse to fear.....yes, we'll be shown lots of false flag eents...attacks....more events like 9-11...and it will of course be brought into your living room by the incessant media coverage....but let's to buy into any of it...no matter how real it seems....oh, to be sure....people will die...the weapons will be real...but the people behind the weapons and the killing are not the people we are told they are...so...in a nutshell...expect more of their same old same old tricks.....hey.....what would they change their M.O.??? It seems to work pretty well on the general population....

Cheers and love to all

Edited May 14, 2012 by elmstreet61

[elmstreet61]

Very cool video.....Looks like lights in the sky

may be prepping us for future signs of their presence

and eventual acceptance of other life

72% of Americans currently believe in UFO's

Although some of those videos looked to me to

be either a missle launch (China) reentry of a vehicle

and maneuvering (Russia) and some balloons (S.America)

most of them look truly unexplainable

I particularly liked the swirling gasses that evaporated into

some sort of black hole

My opinion is that those spirals in the skies are nothing more than the testing of holographs or holograms...whatever you want to call them......the creators of the holographics technology are preparing to give us all a literally mind blowing show in the skies...soon......perhaps some after or during the London Olympics or during attacks on Iran maybe? There are rumours of false flag events happening juuuust prior to your USAP elections in November.....some kind of spectacle...or "attack" or riots...that will give Obama reasons to declare martial law.....that's What they want....

Edited May 14, 2012 by elmstreet61

[crewdog]

I didn't believe in anything until about 8 months ago... I went down the rabbit hole and discovered quite a bit, I realized that these people set me up to believe that there is nothing else out there...just eat, sleep, work, have kids, and die. And they made me fear death by not giving me the knowledge that our soul never dies... I'm pretty bitter at these bastards. I believe in reincarnation... I read somewhere that hinduism was the world's only religion along time ago(Atlantis, Lemuria days) .. .I think there's something to it.

God created man kind to have dominion over the earth. And protect it. But the devil took that dominion from the first man Adam when he caused Adam and Eve to sin by tempting them to want to be like God. We were without sin then. But when Adam fell he had dominion on earth and the whole earth fell with him and sin entered the world at that point. And the devil took over dominion. That answers why you think its normal to sin because you are of the devil whether you know it or not and it is normal for him and his subjects to sin. But God did come to earth in the flesh as Jesus to take dominion back from the devil and when he died on the cross and then was raised 3 days later he defeated death and sin because he was born of a virgin woman who God himself impregnanted by the Holy Spirit. So Jesus had no sin entering the world and never sinned as well. By this he was killed illegaly by the evil powers and dominion was given to him. This is how you get out of the trap and bondage of sin that the devil put you into. You repent from your unbeliefe and decide to believe in Jesus and his resurection and make him your Lord and Saviour. Then you are made righteous by the blood of Jesus. You dont obtain it but are given it.

You are at that point back where God originaly planed for you to be. A son of God. Adam was a son. And under Jesus we have more power than Adam did. Adam only had power on earth. But the bible says Jesus has all authority in heaven and earth. And we are heirs to what ever Jesus has. We can walk in the very ability of Jesus if we do it in his name. Now instead of the devil ruling over you you now are the devils master.

I have personaly seen this in action in my life as the Lord has shown me how to walk in power over the enemy. I am still learning but i have successfully laid hands on many sick people and seen God heal them right before my eyes. Have even seen the devil try and scare me off by manifesting in a person while i prayed for them but i kept on until he left the person.

As far as sin goes. You may miss the mark and sin here and there but you will not be a slave to sin any more. The strong desire you have to sin will go away if you believe Jesus can and will take it from you. I know from experience. I was once addicted to porn and did not know i could be free from it until a pastor decided to pray for me. After that i never looked at porn again or even had a desire for it. The reason it left was because Jesus paid the price and i only had to believe for i was already saved at this point but i had a lack of knowlegde conserning this. So the pastor believed for me and Jesus worked with his faith or belief on my behalf to deliver me from that sin. And since then i have learned to believe for myself and have been able to stay away from sin all together except for a mistake here and there but i dont live in it any more and i always repent or turn from it and turn back to God. And am forgiven.

As far as the aliens they are not life from other planets but rather fallen angels from long ago. The enemey has a plan to decieve man kind like another person stated earlier and they are good at it.

[HughJeffin Byrd]

What a tangled web they weave, when they practice to deceive.

[GARY2]

Being raised a Baptist I thought that reincarnation was where one died and came back as some type of animal and never paid it much attention. I didn't believe in reincarnation until I started having past life recalls. Now I don't believe, I KNOW I have been here many lives before and remember bits and pieces of them. Instead of saying we have a soul, I prefer to say we have a body. We are soul and have manifested this body at this point in space & time so we can function at this rate of vibration and gain the experience, knowledge, & ability to love that we can get the best at this point in our individual development. Death is largely oversold in order to keep people here for their alloted (?) time and not have them checking out early when the going gets rough! Once one has a few out of body experiences, or soul travel experiences, one then knows that one does not have to have a physical body to live. Only the physical body is mortal. They don't have to take the word of what somebody wrote in a book, no matter how good the book is. The light & sound eminating (?) from the godhead can be experienced by everybody, it is not just limited to people like Saul of Taursis, who became the famous Paul in the new Testament. I'm not picking on ole Paul, I like the guy, I was just using him as an example. There are spiritual exercises one can do to achieve this and they don't have to change their religion to do it. As far as aliens from other dimensions existing, the odds are so astronomically in their favor I don't see how there cannot be. The sad story that a lot of people put out about everybody going to hell that doesn't believe the way they do is (I hate to say this) is just an ego trip. I don't mean to belittle anybody's religion because there is a place for everybody. I think a religion should fit a person's needs until they grow out of it, then can go to one that fits their needs better. I have been taken up into that beautiful light that Paul wrote about and it is glorious indeed! More & more people are experiencing the light & sound as the vibrations on this planet are being raised. Gary2

[HughJeffin Byrd]

Being raised a Baptist I thought that reincarnation was where one died and came back as some type of animal and never paid it much attention. I didn't believe in reincarnation until I started having past life recalls. Now I don't believe, I KNOW I have been here many lives before and remember bits and pieces of them. Instead of saying we have a soul, I prefer to say we have a body. We are soul and have manifested this body at this point in space & time so we can function at this rate of vibration and gain the experience, knowledge, & ability to love that we can get the best at this point in our individual development. Death is largely oversold in order to keep people here for their alloted (?) time and not have them checking out early when the going gets rough! Once one has a few out of body experiences, or soul travel experiences, one then knows that one does not have to have a physical body to live. Only the physical body is mortal. They don't have to take the word of what somebody wrote in a book, no matter how good the book is. The light & sound eminating (?) from the godhead can be experienced by everybody, it is not just limited to people like Saul of Taursis, who became the famous Paul in the new Testament. I'm not picking on ole Paul, I like the guy, I was just using him as an example. There are spiritual exercises one can do to achieve this and they don't have to change their religion to do it. As far as aliens from other dimensions existing, the odds are so astronomically in their favor I don't see how there cannot be. The sad story that a lot of people put out about everybody going to hell that doesn't believe the way they do is (I hate to say this) is just an ego trip. I don't mean to belittle anybody's religion because there is a place for everybody. I think a religion should fit a person's needs until they grow out of it, then can go to one that fits their needs better. I have been taken up into that beautiful light that Paul wrote about and it is glorious indeed! More & more people are experiencing the light & sound as the vibrations on this planet are being raised. Gary2

Incredibly well spoken and I agree 100% with every bit of it... the vibration/frequency level on Earth has been increasing dramatically(the ancients knew this was going to happen)...and so did the dark cabal, they've done everything they could to keep our vibrations low, but they cannot stop this...humanity is tired of being manipulated.

[smee2]

If this thread has done nothing else, it has shown me that a lot of the members of this forum have far greater vision, and a much broader view of life, here and hereafter, than I had imagined. I suppose I was taken in by all that foot stomping and table thumping that goes on when the subject turns to polticsor religion.

Only goes to show it depends on the question asked, what kind of answer you might get. and the answer might just amaze you.

smee2

[rightsonword]

Is there evidence to support any of this? Reincarnation, alien life, etc. I'm seeing a lot of faith based belief without any evidence. Is this reasonable?

[rightsonword]

Sorry, the vid was just to point out how small we are. However I believe the Bible does mention UFO's...depending on how you interpret the writings.

I have always wanted someone to explain what that is in the painting.

Gotcha. The universe definitely is massive. We can't comprehend it's size with our finite mind. I assume you're talking about Ezekiel's vision or the wheel. The WFo connection to that is caused by digging too much into the imagery of the text coupled with imagination. Wasn't it Erich Von Daniken who came up with this theory? If one begins reading a text looking for UFOs, they will find UFOs. The imagery used by Ezekiel is used by others in the bible as well to describe the similar objects. I had a video that explained all this, if I find it, I'll post it.

The paintings are, imo, probably of a UFO, though we can't know for sure. People have believed in ET for millenias.

BTW, I love the subject of UFOs. Back home I have a poster that reads "I want to believe" with a UFO on it. Of course I don't want to believe, but the subject interests me. I watch Ancient Aliens and other documentaries all the time and have been for years. I actually just bought a little UFO figurine of the Pascagoula Alien sighting from 1973. I'm not ignorant on the subject. But imo, the evidence for alien life in any form (bacterial - being) is severely lacking.

[Maggie123]

Agreed.. While I'm not a scientist and certainly do not have the capability of demonstrating their existence... I just go by (what I deem) common sense....Billions and billions and billions of galaxies, solar systems and planets.....And we earthlings should be supposed to be the only inhabitants of the Universe? An arrogant and super ego -inflated thought in the least... It is as though ants would believe they are the only inhabitants on Planet Earth..... As usual JMHO.

Umbertino Thank You! Your words are simple but so true for me.

I have a vivid memory as a young child laying on a grassy hillside looking up at the sky... I wondered if we weren't just like the ants thinking we were the only ones. I remember a strong feeling of the possibility of others looking down at us and laughing at our limited veiw of ourselves and the universe. I guess that was just before I was conditioned not to believe in such things.

Thank You Smee, Elmstreet and Gary for your thought provoking post.

I Appreciate That Very Much.

[uncirculd]

Sorry, the vid was just to point out how small we are. However I believe the Bible does mention UFO's...depending on how you interpret the writings.

I have always wanted someone to explain what that is in the painting.

One of the fallen angels in his flying vessel that we will be told created us. That's how the left behinds will explain the rapture. Aliens took them away. When in actually is was the aliens and lights in the skies we have been seeing for years. Fallen angels. JMHO

[rightsonword]

One of the fallen angels in his flying vessel that we will be told created us. That's how the left behinds will explain the rapture. Aliens took them away. When in actually is was the aliens and lights in the skies we have been seeing for years. Fallen angels. JMHO

I agree with you. There was a biblical documentary that went into detail about aliens actually being demonic. It was quite interesting.

[magawatt]

We live in a Universe apparently favoring life. If the force of gravity were a little more or less strong, it wouldn't be a system where life chemistry could work.

So even if at present we don't have proof that life exists elsewhere, I judge it likely that it does. And I don't feel loved less by God if he has created other flocks in other pastures.

To quote Bruno:

God is infinite, so His universe must be too. Thus is the excellence of God magnified and the greatness of His kingdom made manifest; He is glorified not in one, but in countless suns; not in a single earth, a single world, but in a thousand thousand, I say in an infinity of worlds.- Giordana Bruno, 1584, "On the Infinite Universe and Worlds" [Executed by the Inquisition]

Edited May 14, 2012 by magawatt

[GinaG]

UFO Mainstream Media. Check this out!

OMG!

[Goldiegirl]

I've enjoyed reading the posts on this topic.

I'm sure there are many things in this universe that we are not aware of. This being one of them.

[Shabibilicious]

All anyone needs to do for alien confirmation is visit the People of Walmart website.......it's like the Facebook of Aliens.

GO RV, then BV

[cris]

We live in a Universe apparently favoring life. If the force of gravity were a little more or less strong, it wouldn't be a system where life chemistry could work.

So even if at present we don't have proof that life exists elsewhere, I judge it likely that it does. And I don't feel loved less by God if he has created other flocks in other pastures.

To quote Bruno:

God is infinite, so His universe must be too. Thus is the excellence of God magnified and the greatness of His kingdom made manifest; He is glorified not in one, but in countless suns; not in a single earth, a single world, but in a thousand thousand, I say in an infinity of worlds.- Giordana Bruno, 1584, "On the Infinite Universe and Worlds" [Executed by the Inquisition]

Good post, however, check this out. Life exists almost everywhere & under

extreme conditions on this planet. From incredible pressures or lack of pressure,

to frigid or massive heat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U24JVScEZN8

[magawatt]

You are correct, life on Earth ( and Mars and even Europa I'd bet ) is surprisingly tough. What I was referring to were the more fundamental characteristics of the Universe.

Astronomer Martin Rees has written a book that addresses this titled

Just Six Numbers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0465036724/ref=aw_d_detail?pd=1

Edited May 14, 2012 by magawatt

[cris]

You are correct, life on Earth ( and Mars and even Europa I'd bet ) is surprisingly tough. What I was referring to were the more fundamental characteristics of the Universe.

Astronomer Martin Rees has written a book that addresses this titled

Just Six Numbers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0465036724/ref=aw_d_detail?pd=1

I see, very cool, on a fundamental level

[uncirculd]

Good post, however, check this out. Life exists almost everywhere & under

extreme conditions on this planet. From incredible pressures or lack of pressure,

to frigid or massive heat

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=U24JVScEZN8

Yes it does. I have seen documentaries on this. The desert even. But out there in the universe I think it is the fallen angels. And them experimenting with our lives to try and be like God and create life or rather recreate life. They are trying to beat God at his creations. That's just my humble opinion.

Edited May 15, 2012 by uncirculd

[Black Swan]

Definitely...I've dated a few...mostly from Venus...hardly any from Mars, and few that were probably from way past Pluto.