Georgia Court Ruled Against Obama

[mojack]

Semantics! HE's not a Natural born Citizen! You probably voted for him and will vote for him again, lol

Elementary! Difference in natural born and birth place.

Edited January 4, 2012 by mojack

[Beux]

I f what you say is TRUE-then it become CASE LAW-If this is CASE LAW then you may as people -as a Nation go back and have everything he put into power taken down and made null and void- If this becomes nul and void then you have a clean slate-With that in mind you BETTER VOTE the right guy in because you will NEVER/NEVER/NEVER get another chance to turn this country around again.This man should be given no special reason or purposes to gain or elaborate anything form this country-Impeaching would even come into play -He is a Fraud and we all know this-It is the so-called shadow gov that kept him there and they should also be looked at-Yes i study law and i know this for a fact -If you committed fraud you would spend alot of time in jail. If you steal you end up in jail if you break the law to a degree of where yo u have hurt a populace then you go to jail----Where in this country is there written a Get out of Jail Card. But hey what do i know. My next beef is that as for Michigan -Levin is from Michigan.Mccain and Levan. Drew up the plans for the last Bill to be signed-The ****** and Grab Bill- Will this go away also- I hope so- If you end up and Impeach a man then you should go after the ****** and Grab people and send a message that we as a Nation will NOT TOLORATE this again.Then maybe as a NATION we shouldd say THANKYOU TO GOD and come under HIS Word again... GOD said --i will look after the Nation that follows me----- I paraphrased this but ya,ll get the idea. Now Thank GOD-------Just something to think about---But maybe Obee will make his opponents go away ..That is a line from the senate floor- Hey whos worried right?

[sportfisher]

Why didn't you get enough votes in the last election to defeat our President

technically he is not "Our President" if he is not a legally qualified and legitimately elected President.

[Beux]

didnt know that ****** was a wierd word-- ok so ill correct it and say--- hook and grab- sorry for that- I do hope i dont get tossed. Im just having an opinion here-Thankyou for that chance- Scary anymore isnt it? Thanks again.

Uhmmm??? let's see.......................Acorn.......................voter fraud...................Uhmmmm???......................spiritual delusion from Satan himself.

nuff said.

Praise GOD from whom all Blessings flow- I like the honesty of your last line---Now that you said that -we will Pray that you wont get Stopped the next time k?

Pray for this Georgia court, and for the truth to run the course of justice, and everything O has done against this Country and our Constitution be undone.

Then get rid of those Georgia guidestones and put up stones with the 10 Commandments on them -Anyone thot about that?

[DinarMillionaire]

Here we go again, give up guys the south lost the war. Why didn't you get enough votes in the last election to defeat our President. Let's move on and see it you can defeat him this November, which of course you won't. How long are you have nots going to let the 1% trick you. Oh I forgot, it's all about color, isn't it? It's ok you can admit it, I can tell where you stand.

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

[sportfisher]

I f what you say is TRUE-then it become CASE LAW-If this is CASE LAW then you may as people -as a Nation go back and have everything he put into power taken down and made null and void- If this becomes nul and void then you have a clean slate-With that in mind you BETTER VOTE the right guy in because you will NEVER/NEVER/NEVER get another chance to turn this country around again.This man should be given no special reason or purposes to gain or elaborate anything form this country-Impeaching would even come into play -He is a Fraud and we all know this-It is the so-called shadow gov that kept him there and they should also be looked at-Yes i study law and i know this for a fact -If you committed fraud you would spend alot of time in jail. If you steal you end up in jail if you break the law to a degree of where yo u have hurt a populace then you go to jail----Where in this country is there written a Get out of Jail Card. But hey what do i know. My next beef is that as for Michigan -Levin is from Michigan.Mccain and Levan. Drew up the plans for the last Bill to be signed-The ****** and Grab Bill- Will this go away also- I hope so- If you end up and Impeach a man then you should go after the ****** and Grab people and send a message that we as a Nation will NOT TOLORATE this again.Then maybe as a NATION we shouldd say THANKYOU TO GOD and come under HIS Word again... GOD said --i will look after the Nation that follows me----- I paraphrased this but ya,ll get the idea. Now Thank GOD-------Just something to think about---But maybe Obee will make his opponents go away ..That is a line from the senate floor- Hey whos worried right?

Amen

[divemaster5734]

You can't characterize it as a scandal when his mother and father status was no secrete. No scandal but the world will see bickering just as we hear the stories from Iraq and wonder "what the hell, those people cannot get along".

It will just be a process IF any.

You don't think the fact the Democratic party intentionally "certified" an ineligible illegal as qualified to be the president, then the fact America was steamrollered by an equally dishonest press, and the fact it took 3 years for honest people to have their day in court because of all the partisan and corrupt judges wouldn't be a scandal????

It will in fact blow the lid of many news organizations reputations, destroy several politicians careers, and reshape the "vetting" process of each party forever.

It is long overdue.

What is scandalous is that it took this long to see any court address the issue.

[TPSprayduster]

Vetting, well when you vett Mr Paul don't come back to the forum screaming you've ruin a good man.

[mojack]

You don't think the fact the Democratic party intentionally "certified" an ineligible illegal as qualified to be the president, then the fact America was steamrollered by an equally dishonest press, and the fact it took 3 years for honest people to have their day in court because of all the partisan and corrupt judges wouldn't be a scandal????

It will in fact blow the lid of many news organizations reputations, destroy several politicians careers, and reshape the "vetting" process of each party forever.

It is long overdue.

What is scandalous is that it took this long to see any court address the issue.

You can't characterize it as a scandal when his mother and father status was no secrete. No scandal but the world will see bickering just as we hear the stories from Iraq and wonder "what the hell, those people cannot get along".

You can't just indicate democrats, but again, the constitution is obviously unclear.

It will just be a process IF any.

Just FYI - More Details from Judge Malihi

Simply formalities for eligibility for office - not unusual... allows for hearing of facts or not.

The judge’s decision was to refuse to dismiss the complaints, an action that had been sought by Obama. He also granted a motion to sever the cases, and he scheduled a hearing at 9 a.m. on Jan. 26 for the complaint brought by Weldon. Following immediately will be hearings for the cases brought by Swensson and Powell, and the issue raised by Farrar, Lax, Judy, Malaren and Roth will be third.

Malihi’s ruling said: “The court finds that defendant is a candidate for federal office who has been certified by the state executive committee of a political party, and therefore must, under Code Section 21-2-5, meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligible/

The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.

John Bingham stated in the House of Representatives in 1862:

The Constitution leaves no room for doubt upon this subject. The words 'natural born citizen of the United states' appear in it, and the other provision appears in it that, "Congress shall have power to pass a uniform system of naturalization." To naturalize a person is to admit him to citizenship. Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth--natural born citizens.

He reiterated his statement in 1866:

Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it from him.

Constitutional Convention

The Constitution does not explain the meaning of "natural born". On June 18, 1787, Alexander Hamilton submitted to the Convention a sketch of a plan of government. Article IX, section 1 of Hamilton's plan provided:

No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.

On July 25, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, presiding officer of the Convention:

Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

There is no proof that deliberations took place at the convention on the subject of the letter. The Convention accepted the change without further debate.

Edited January 4, 2012 by mojack

[flboy]

Anything that is realted to ousting Obama is Great.

[sportfisher]

You can't characterize it as a scandal when his mother and father status was no secrete. No scandal but the world will see bickering just as we hear the stories from Iraq and wonder "what the hell, those people cannot get along".

You can't just indicate democrats, but again, the constitution is obviously unclear.

It will just be a process IF any.

Just FYI - More Details from Judge Malihi

Simply formalities for eligibility for office - not unusual... allows for hearing of facts or not.

The judge’s decision was to refuse to dismiss the complaints, an action that had been sought by Obama. He also granted a motion to sever the cases, and he scheduled a hearing at 9 a.m. on Jan. 26 for the complaint brought by Weldon. Following immediately will be hearings for the cases brought by Swensson and Powell, and the issue raised by Farrar, Lax, Judy, Malaren and Roth will be third.

Malihi’s ruling said: “The court finds that defendant is a candidate for federal office who has been certified by the state executive committee of a political party, and therefore must, under Code Section 21-2-5, meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”

http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligible/

The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.

John Bingham stated in the House of Representatives in 1862:

The Constitution leaves no room for doubt upon this subject. The words 'natural born citizen of the United states' appear in it, and the other provision appears in it that, "Congress shall have power to pass a uniform system of naturalization." To naturalize a person is to admit him to citizenship. Who are natural born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth--natural born citizens.

He reiterated his statement in 1866:

Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power, or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it from him.

Constitutional Convention

The Constitution does not explain the meaning of "natural born". On June 18, 1787, Alexander Hamilton submitted to the Convention a sketch of a plan of government. Article IX, section 1 of Hamilton's plan provided:

No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.

On July 25, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, presiding officer of the Convention:

Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

There is no proof that deliberations took place at the convention on the subject of the letter. The Convention accepted the change without further debate.

So you're saying he's an anti-american, socialist, muslim anchor baby?

Edited January 4, 2012 by sportfisher

[TPSprayduster]

More wishing in one hand and do do in the other. Nov of this year we will see if there is re elected or elected president. So stand by for more.

[DinarMillionaire]

You can't characterize it as a scandal when his mother and father status was no secrete.

The Founders would have had the full intent that the Constitution be a totally sound document, recognizable as such by any other nation that we were a nation. They would have used the Law Of Nations as their guide, as it was Internationally recognized AS the "law of nations" by definition. The clause that demands that qualification is THE ONLY ONE in the Constitution, therefore I think it's pretty obvious they were going for that absolute definition per recognized law. This is nothing more than Globalist attempts to destroy this nation from within.

The exact reason there was no specific discussion of the issue in the Continental Congress was precisely because the issue was long considered resolved with the issue of divided loyalties and the commonly used defining of "born of two parents who are citizens [plural] at the time of birth", and it is cogent to remember the reference to John Jay's statement regarding the putting of our Nation's military under the control of one with dual or conflicting loyalties, as Obama has shown he has.

We were given the admonition to read the Constitution by its words, to its simplest and most direct meanings, and to the spirit in which it was written, referring to the plethora of recorded communications between the principles to include letters, notes made, and in particular, the Federalist Papers, explicating at the time what was being planned, and the anti-Federalist Papers, which were responses to some of the issues which came up. In all the issues, the security and the idea of remaining faithful to the principles which guided the founders was considered to be both natural and the only means of keeping what had been established.

The failure to do so, starting shortly before the war between the States, shows exactly why it was considered important to keep to the principles, and cleave strongly to "the spirit in which the Constitution was written", in James Madison's words, and the total lack of respect for every aspect of the Constitution by present day government shows exactly why each and every "jot and tittle" was important to retain, because once one has found "good cause" to ignore one bit, it is a toe hold to argue no part should be left intact, as any part can be argued by a well experienced orator, and confronted by a lesser speaker, or less knowledgable person to defend it.

Edited January 4, 2012 by DinarMillionaire

[divemaster5734]

It's amazing how right they were in realizing a person's dual citizenship will cause them to have split loyalties.

If Obummer has shown us anything it is he does not love America or put this country above all others.

I am shocked by people that still act like he is the best choice, how can they?

All bo has done is split this nation in half and waged war against anyone that doesn't support his communist agenda.

Oh wait, he did also manage to screw up the whole Iraq thing too...

[Beux]

I will say this and i Think you can put this down to a Prediction k? I am of the opinion that Obama will get in.WHY because when i look at what happened to Bush and i see what happened in I owa --here is what i think, I believe that No-Matter what the vote is Obama will get in.Whe the elite want something they will do it.When t he votes were done with Bush isnt it strange that they were counted in Florida (Bush Country? ) and they had trouble dealing with it all. As in what happened to thevotes? -If you watch what has happened for the last couple decades and watched what is going on from Carter to now i believe that Obama will get in. The votes dont count and when they say he,s in he is in.,This is a shadow government. I dont want to think this but that is the way it is. If you go back far enough you will find the Bushes and Lincon and all the way back to Royalty and back into the Czar of Russia the Blood lones are drawn. The BIBLE says alot to- If you read it says that A man of Colour will lead them. -It also says that GOD is coming and also tells of when things are going to heat up- So now you have to pieces of History to look at.Me ill take GOD,s word 1st -The rest is all fluff as far as im concerned. But you really have to draw a line. Now if Santorum is in I believe he will come under power of GOD.If he stays the course and puts GOD 1st as he said in the speech last nite. But that remains to be seen. Like i said before we have a chance to change the country from within. BUT it will only come from GOD Himself.HIS word says That if A Nation will bow and Pray I will be there- so now you have it all. I paraphrased it but you get the idea and some will know where to look in the word- ----Just my humble opinion thats all. Thanks---- Edited January 4, 2012 by Beux

[caz1104]

Here we go again, give up guys the south lost the war. Why didn't you get enough votes in the last election to defeat our President. Let's move on and see it you can defeat him this November, which of course you won't. How long are you have nots going to let the 1% trick you. Oh I forgot, it's all about color, isn't it? It's ok you can admit it, I can tell where you stand.

FYI-things are NOT always about color.

[Beux]

http://www.legitgov.org:80/Iowa-They-dont-know-where-ballots-are - you r5eally got to smile at this-

[mojack]

So you're saying he's an anti-american, socialist, muslim anchor baby?

You have a problem with word interpretation Doc! I always say reading is fundamental!

technically he is not "Our President" if he is not a legally qualified and legitimately elected President.

Again, reading is fundamental.

It's amazing how right they were in realizing a person's dual citizenship will cause them to have split loyalties.

If Obummer has shown us anything it is he does not love America or put this country above all others.

I am shocked by people that still act like he is the best choice, how can they?

All bo has done is split this nation in half and waged war against anyone that doesn't support his communist agenda.

Oh wait, he did also manage to screw up the whole Iraq thing too...

Maybe awaken a nation.... Sleeping dogs have awaken. Demonizing continues. The division has always laid there beneath the pretentious ones.

[sportfisher]

I am shocked by people that still act like he is the best choice, how can they?

either they are media saturated ignorant morons, or they work for him.

[Beux]

Well Folks here is what yall been looking for---http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligible/---- check this out-This should go good with yer mornin coffee- /lunch /supper--- this is for that everyday type of discussion--I wonder how far this Judge will get? Keep a Watch- Just came across my desk-

[mojack]

Well Folks here is what yall been looking for---http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-must-be-constitutionally-eligible/---- check this out-This should go good with yer mornin coffee- /lunch /supper--- this is for that everyday type of discussion--I wonder how far this Judge will get? Keep a Watch- Just came across my desk-

Found it yesterday... may open to discovery. POST #34

Edited January 4, 2012 by mojack

[sportfisher]

You have a problem with word interpretation Doc! I always say reading is fundamental!

Again, reading is fundamental.

Maybe awaken a nation.... Sleeping dogs have awaken. Demonizing continues. The division has always laid there beneath the pretentious ones.

you're not blind, but cannot see.

[mojack]

you're not blind, but cannot see.

You have no idea.

[Beux]

The heat is on for Sherriff Joe--http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/sheriff-joe-targeted-for-ouster/ http://wp.wnd.com/2012/01/lawmakers-dispute-obama-ballot-eligibility/ When i look at the news today-I am finding something amiss- This is really different- I am just sending links here - Just sharing-Thanks- for this oppprtunity-

Found it yesterday... may open to discovery. POST #34

Sorry about that-Sometimes News travels slow-haha- Altho the word NEWS-means North South East West-- I always get this picture of someone standing in the center of the cross saying OK I only got 4 hands

[Beux]

This funny

isnt funny I guess you take your pick-- Makes me wonder how things are going to go- Now you have Judge/ A Sherriff/A few Senators/A few Lawyers and Few Americans. Now we have a choice- We FINALLY have a choice-