SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO STEAL CREDIT

[Eddinar]

THE GET TEAM NEEDS TO GET A LIFE...RUDY1164 POSTED THIS TODAY AND WILLIE FROM THE GET TEAM IS STEALING THIS AND CALLING IT HIS OWN "INTEL" OR HIS TAKE ON "WHERE WE ARE AS OF 9/18" THE GET TEAM IS PHONY AND HAVE NO INTEGRITY....HERE IS "WILLIE'S" POST:

Willie’s analogy of where we are today….9/18

Hello Everyone

There were some few questions and disagreements, which I love. It creates for an

open forum of conversation. I first want to apologize for my grammatical errors,

but as someone posted this is not english finals, but nonetheless I should be

more aware of my spelling.

I have been on this sight and a member for close to a year, I have always been

patient and understanding of other peoples posting, I have never felt bashing

gets you anywhere.

I am going to try to paint a realistic complete picture, this may take other

postings in series.

LETS GET STARTED

The political environment in the middle east is strenuous. I touched on this

subject a little yesterday. We keep hearing about Iran being involved in the

voting and election process. There is a reason behind this, IRAN IS SCARED.

6 months ago we saw rioting and demonstrations thru out Iran, the opposition had

won elections, and were looking for major changes. they truly wanted change thru

out all aspects of society, a freer Iran. their sharia law suffocates their

society, there is no freedom of speech or freedom of existence

Those are the things that are occurring in Iraq, or being implemented as we

speak. This new free capital democracy in Iraq would create internal

destabilization in Iran, internally it eventually will collapse, creating civil

unrest and civil war. Thats what they don’t want, the clerics understand this,

so that is why they fund terrorism and elections in Iraq. Have you noticed that

the nuclear reactors is not such a big issue anymore, well the U.S understands

we will not have to set foot in that country, it will collapse on its own. So

our efforts are directed at promoting a freer Iraq.

The rest of the middle east is bi-partisan, most of the countries are moderate,

at least in the gulf nations they understand that opposing change will only

affect them negatively, so they follow are lead.

When we see all this haggling for position within the govt., I truly believe it

is all for show. Yes the people of Iraq are tired of there govt., and its insane

corruption, but we knew it existed all the time, we even fed the corruption, and

turned a blind eye to it. we know who took what and who has what they took.its

ok, its part of the game in occupied war countries, we are going thru this in

Afghanistan, and it’s ok, as long as we accomplish our goals.

Do you truly believe that we go into a country to create a free loving

democratic society, if you do, you must live in disneyland. The only reason we

invade and occupy is to replenish our resources at a comfortable market price.

When money is invested for these purposes, it has an owner, and that owner needs

a substantial return on his investment in such risk environment. He expects to

get paid back in a timely manner.

The bi-product of occupying a nation is democracy, it’s the after effect of our

efforts, while we occupy it is a dictatorship. Once we set the foundation it

becomes democratic, we have to be able to work with the country and it has to be

able to function like a corporation, people are hired and fired, removed and

replaced.

So 7 years go by, we have been running the country, we have stabilized their

economy, we have set in motion the playbook on how to run the central bank.

Now i made some comments about NO TAXES. and many have responded as to what did

i mean, so let me try and explain

there is always going to be taxes, we will never get rid of that, it will always

be part of our economy. what i was trying to say is there will be no new taxes,

and whatever tax cuts bush put in place will continue. when the dinar revals, it

will create a surplus in our treasury, i truly believe we will pay off a lot of

our 12 trillion dollar debt. bush made a comment in 2006 ” not one american

dollar will be spent on this war” many thought he was crazy, how could you make

a statement like that with out any proof or backing. they grilled him on the

media services,

Well what a surprise, we have 3.7 trillion dinars in our foreign currency

reserve basket. plus we have a 2005 agreement to purchase future oil contracts

at $32.00 per barrel, what is the current price of oil? $75.00 a barrel

This was all done back in 2005, you see bush jr. learned from bush Sr., that

wars can be very profitable when you hedge the currency, i don’t remember us

sending Kuwait a bill for our services, don’t you think liberating a country

cost money and manpower, does the U.S look like Unicef, lets just give away our

services because were just a bunch of bleeding hearts, i don’t think so.

Money is its own dictator, it manipulates for its own benefit, money will do

anything for its own profitable outcome, it has an inherit desire to create more

money at any means, it will cross boundaries, break borders, create illusions

and perceptions and bend truth to its own convenience, it will create,

destroy,build up and tear down, and most of all it makes the world go round and

around

so having said this, money has to be profitable, and we did not go to Iraq to

liberate, we went in for the profit, now its sad to say that many have lost

there lives there, iraqis included, many innocent lives have been affected.

but i want to talk about reality, war is business, and business need to survive,

our world is going thru the largest consumer consumption that has ever been

seen, and americans do not like to lose there lifestyles, moderation is not in

our vocabulary, we all know we are in a global struggle for natural resources,

and china is consuming 2/3 of it, there predicted to have in the next 10 years a

middle class population of over 750 million people, that is 750 million vehicles

in a country that only has 100 million today.

I am not giving up my 2.5 cars and I am sure not going to ride the bus three

times out of the week, or walk to the grocery store, are you?

SO LETS TALK ABOUT THE ISX AND HCL AND THE DINAR

here is the law for you to review and understand it is already in place, it has

no current bearing on the dinar or its revalue, the IMF has already taken this

into consideration, so quite believing this needs to pass before the dinar can

revalue

A Hydrocarbon Law which advocates a radical restructuring ofIraq’s oil industry

was approved by the Iraqi cabinet in February. If passed by parliament, the law

willmark a milestone in Iraqi history a shift of Iraq’s massive reserves from

public to private hands. It could see private companies developand profit from

Iraq’s oil for 15-30 year periods with virtually no possibilityfor the Iraqi

State to renegotiate contractual terms and conditions. The first draft of the

oil law wasproduced to a timeline set by the International Monetary Fund. The

IMF ordered, as a condition of debtrelief, the issuance of an oil law by

December 2006. This law had to open up Iraq oil (for the first time in over30

years) to long-term investment by foreign oil companies. Finally produced in

July 2006, thefirst to review it and comment on it were 9 multinational oil

companies, theBritish government and US government. It would be eight months

before the vast majority of the Iraqiparliament would even see it. InJanuary of

this year, the US President decreed the passing of an oil lawallowing for

foreign investment as his top benchmark. AP reported in early April that sources

close to PrimeMinister Nouri Al Maliki had revealed he feared being ousted by

the US administrationif he did not secure the passing of an oil law by the end

of June. The Oil Law – Legislation for OilPrivatization?

The oil law and Production Sharing Agreements (re-named‘Exploration and Risk

Contracts and Development and Production Sharing Contractsin the Oil Law) do not

amount to privatization of Iraqi oil in a stricttechnical sense. With PSAs and

theprovisions of the oil law, the oil underground technically remains

‘theproperty of the Iraqi people’. Itis not set to pass into private ownership;

existing assets will not pass intoprivate ownership and corporate structures

will also not be privatelyowned. However, the rights tocontrol what happens to

Iraq’s oil — how it is developed, its’ rate ofextraction, the profits which the

state is able to claim — the control of oilflow and development — this is all up

for exclusive private control. Sami Husseini of the Institute forPublic Accuracy

uses Standard Oil’s John D. Rockefeller’s maxim to illustratethis. ‘Own nothing,

control everything’. Despite being sold as a de-facto peaceplan for Iraq; The

mechanism for uniting all Iraqi factions by offering a fairdistribution of oil

wealth, only one out of 43 articles actually deals withthis. The details of

revenuedistribution, including the proportion shared between central government

andthe regions, and the means by which allocations and percentages will be

decidedis actually the subject of another separate law which has yet to

bepublished. The Law could risksexacerbating sectarian tensions. Its provision

for a creation of a Federal Oil and Gas Council – mostlikely composed by the

Prime Minister, in consultation with the main parties,could see the current

sectarianised decision-making reflected in economic oilpolicy potentially

pitting regionagainst region in a race to secure competitive contracts.

This is why we are picking the govt., do you think we would allow them to go

against our investment, or the brilliance of JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER. I don’t think

so, as I have said we and the IMF are in total control, I hope this explains

HCL, and how it already exist, the dinar has nothing to do with this or its

potential revaluation. The dinar will revalue, we need our investment return as

soon as possible,

People have a very different concept on how markets work, I have heard that THE

IS:@ IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE) needs to have a tradable currency. Where this idea

came from is my question, is the six not functioning on a daily basis, is their

market not tradable, it is, that it is not included in the world exchanges as a

formidable Quota, affecting market data is a total different story, if i wanted

to buy iraqi stock, i would have to use a clearing house, but who on the world

market wants to by penny stock in 28 companies. most investment houses and

private equity stay out of the penny market, there is to much adherent risk,

return is questionable in short term and long term gain. no one is going to

invest 200 million dollars in penny stock, you might as well buy the whole

company.

here is an explanation of a market

A stock market or equity market is a public market (a loose network of economic

transactions, not a physical facility or discrete entity) for the trading of

company stock (shares) and derivatives at an agreed price; these are securities

listed on a stock exchanges well as those only traded privately.

The size of the world stock market was estimated at about $36.6 trillion US at

the beginning of October 2008.[1] The total world derivatives market has been

estimated at about $791 trillion face or nominal value,[2] 11 times the size of

the entire world economy.[3]The value of the derivatives market, because it is

stated in terms of notional values, cannot be directly compared to a stock or a

fixed income security, which traditionally refers to an actual value. Moreover,

the vast majority of derivatives ‘cancel’ each other out (i.e., a derivative

‘bet’ on an event occurring is offset by a comparable derivative ‘bet’ on the

event not occurring). Many such relatively illiquid securities are valued as

marked to model, rather than an actual market price.

a market is created internally by its own investors, that being its own

citizens, how could we expect iraqis to invest in their own market if they have

no money to do that, it is ridiculous to believe that the market will make

itself thru outside investment, when its own people have no confidence in their

own internal market, outside investors will stay out till they see the country

of Iraq invest in its own, to do that they need a revalue of their currency

that is why the revalue is coming very soon,

In my next posting I will explain why I believe we are very close to the dinar

revaluing, I believe within the next 30 days.

[PAPATOM]

I don't know edinar.....it seems that they have misspelled different words...when you look at em both....

[Cherysh]

lmao....Eddie, I dont think anyone on DV really takes the GET team seriously.....though they do hold a certain entertainment value that keeps at the edge of our seats almost daily.....lol, TK makes me literally ROFL......no worries my dear....Thanks so much for such great posts you have been bring to us BTW....its appreciated!! CHEERS!!

[kingcamera82]

these guys have no shame!!!! i know there is a member here who has an account over there so plz do them a favor and set the record straight.

[quadraph0nic]

I thought the GET team would mainly terryk would try to take his info and make it their own.

[tampa1000]

Looks like GET Team is a fake, hope rhey have something new and not copying the real deal!

[Mr. Phonics]

What do you expect? "Willie" has been banned from almost every single Dinar website. As have the rest of that sorry team.

[ronscarpa]

THE GET TEAM NEEDS TO GET A LIFE...RUDY1164 POSTED THIS TODAY AND WILLIE FROM THE GET TEAM IS STEALING THIS AND CALLING IT HIS OWN "INTEL" OR HIS TAKE ON "WHERE WE ARE AS OF 9/18" THE GET TEAM IS PHONY AND HAVE NO INTEGRITY....HERE IS "WILLIE'S" POST:

Willie’s analogy of where we are today….9/18

Eddinar (and others),

What Willie appears to have done reflects only on him, not anyone else. Anyone can take a post and make it his own. then post it - that doesn't mean that anyone else participated in the decision to post...other than the poster. No one other than the poster is guilty...! I haven't seen the post personally on the GET site, so I can't make a personal determination YET, but to assume everyone on the site is guilty by association is childish IMO.

I've had some of my posts personalized - so what...! This is a free Info & Rumor site. Your posting it above the way you did just shows me something about you. Let others decide for themselves; and watch out for yourself and your own integrity.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing people on our (DV) site and other various sites bashing and criticizing others. If you don't like them, DON'T READ THEM - and keep your opinions about them to yourself. Comment on the content & context, and not the person. Many of us are guilty of this - act like adult men and women, not critical children. I'm here to share Information and Rumors - the choice to believe is up to you and each reader, and to search out what is true or false. Remember this is a Rumor & Information forum - provided by Adam and those who have chosen to support this site.

Let's read the posts - eat the meat and spit out the bones. I wish us all the best, and great success in our mutual IQD adventure. Let's enjoy the ride - it's almost over.

Blessings to all of you....RON

May Post:

PS: Just read the post on GET, and Willie left Rudolph's name on it...It seems you did some editing of your own Eddinar...!

[Mr. Phonics]

Eddinar,

What Willie appears to have done reflects only on him, not anyone else. Anyone can take a post and make it his own. then post it - that doesn't mean that anyone else participated in the decision to post...other than the poster. No one other than the poster is guilty...! I haven't seen the post personally on the GET site, so I can't make a personal determination YET, but to assume everyone on the site is guilty by association is childish IMO.

I've had some of my posts personalized - so what...! This is a free Info & Rumor site. Your posting it above the way you did just shows me something about you. Let others decide for themselves; and watch out for yourself and your own integrity.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing people on our (DV) site and other various sites bashing and criticizing others. If you don't like them, DON'T READ THEM - and keep your opinions about them to yourself. Comment on the content & context, and not the person. Many of us are guilty of this - act like adult men and women, not critical children. I'm here to share Information and Rumors - the choice to believe is up to you and each reader, and to search out what is true or false. Remember this is a Rumor & Information forum - provided by Adam and those who have chosen to support this site.

Let's read the posts - eat the meat and spit out the bones. I wish us all the best, and great success in our mutual IQD adventure. Let's enjoy the ride - it's almost over.

Blessings to all of you....RON

May Post:

PS: Just read the post on GET, and Willie left Rudolph's name on it...It seems you did some editing of your own Eddinar...!

Leave it to Ron.

:rolleyes:

Thank you, "Eddinar", for your efforts.

[faststart]

Great post Ron....It had to finally be said...stop with the 2nd grade stuff already!...There is great info on that site as well as our own.....

[DaveH]

Eddinar (and others),

What Willie appears to have done reflects only on him, not anyone else. Anyone can take a post and make it his own. then post it - that doesn't mean that anyone else participated in the decision to post...other than the poster. No one other than the poster is guilty...! I haven't seen the post personally on the GET site, so I can't make a personal determination YET, but to assume everyone on the site is guilty by association is childish IMO.

I've had some of my posts personalized - so what...! This is a free Info & Rumor site. Your posting it above the way you did just shows me something about you. Let others decide for themselves; and watch out for yourself and your own integrity.

Personally, I'm tired of hearing people on our (DV) site and other various sites bashing and criticizing others. If you don't like them, DON'T READ THEM - and keep your opinions about them to yourself. Comment on the content & context, and not the person. Many of us are guilty of this - act like adult men and women, not critical children. I'm here to share Information and Rumors - the choice to believe is up to you and each reader, and to search out what is true or false. Remember this is a Rumor & Information forum - provided by Adam and those who have chosen to support this site.

Let's read the posts - eat the meat and spit out the bones. I wish us all the best, and great success in our mutual IQD adventure. Let's enjoy the ride - it's almost over.

Blessings to all of you....RON

May Post:

PS: Just read the post on GET, and Willie left Rudolph's name on it...It seems you did some editing of your own Eddinar...!

Sorry Ron, but i have to disagree with you. The one beautiful about our country is we are all allowed our opinions and we are allowed to speak them. Disagreeing with a post is not bashing and is not behaving poorly, unless it it improperly spoken. I for one am tired of having to tiptoe around. I have pretty much stopped saying anything here. I saw that Adam got a (-) on a post today for answering someone's question. WTF

I support this site wholeheartedly and have done so since last October. Been a VIP since Adam first started it. Seems that some of the new people here have no class or manners.

I respect you Ron, and I respect your posts. Please don't take this the wrong way, but last I checked we are still allowed to disagree and to say so.

God Bless...Go RV

Dave

For those that steal posts, or info from someone else and try to make it your own, makes you a scumbag in my opinion.

[Duce]

who/what is the GET Team? Personnaly, I don't care if someone takes a post and puts it somwhere else. Information is information, no matter who sent it or why.

Of course, I do understand the moral of the deal and agree that it's childish, but it's just information.

Love, peace and chicken grease!!

[Eddinar]

Understandable Ron...The entire team should not be held accountable for one persons actions..Will do in the future. What I have a problem with is not giving credit where credit is due.

[Yogi-Donnie]

Understandable Ron...The entire team should not be held accountable for one persons actions..Will do in the future. What I have a problem with is not giving credit where credit is due.

Word... what this Willie did is slimy, no two ways about it.

[ronscarpa]

Understandable Ron...The entire team should not be held accountable for one persons actions..Will do in the future. What I have a problem with is not giving credit where credit is due.

Thanks Ed - I totally agree with you.

We should all respect the intellectual work of others, and give them their due credit. To arbitrarily take someone's work and present it as your own is deceitful and wrong. It does bring one's integrity in question.

I saw on GET he did have Rudy's name on the end of the article, but in DD's site they removed it. I only saw that this morning. You're a good man ED, and I appreciate your reaction & response...!

Be Blessed, & keep up the good work.

RON

[Dinars R us]

lmao....Eddie, I dont think anyone on DV really takes the GET team seriously.....though they do hold a certain entertainment value that keeps at the edge of our seats almost daily.....lol, TK makes me literally ROFL......no worries my dear....Thanks so much for such great posts you have been bring to us BTW....its appreciated!! CHEERS!!

lol, TK makes me literally ROFL- i have to agree with you 100% HE HAS BEEN AT THE SAME THING FOR SOME TIME NOW ROFLMAO !!

[Mr. Phonics]

Understandable Ron...The entire team should not be held accountable for one persons actions..Will do in the future. What I have a problem with is not giving credit where credit is due.

I agree.

The rest of the team have let their own stupidity and dishonesty be seen, all on their own.

[brookie]

We are here to share information . It really does not matter who posted it. Thanks to all that have spent time to help inform the uninformed. I put up what I find same as many others.A special thanks to the ones that spend what seems to be endless hours.This is a great place for like minded investors to support each other. Like a church we keep each other strong.

Well enough of that.

Have a great weekend All

[ronscarpa]

We are here to share information . It really does not matter who posted it. Thanks to all that have spent time to help inform the uninformed. I put up what I find same as many others.A special thanks to the ones that spend what seems to be endless hours.This is a great place for like minded investors to support each other. Like a church we keep each other strong.

Well enough of that.

Have a great weekend All

Thanks for your wise words (+) BROOKIE - it's appreciated...!

RON

[Yogi-Donnie]

We are here to share information . It really does not matter who posted it. Thanks to all that have spent time to help inform the uninformed. I put up what I find same as many others.A special thanks to the ones that spend what seems to be endless hours.This is a great place for like minded investors to support each other. Like a church we keep each other strong.

Well enough of that.

Have a great weekend All

I too appreciate all the information shared here, however it does matter who posted the orginal information. If someone is going to quote someone else's post, give the orginal poster credit or at least say you got the information from another site. What this Willie character did was claim Rudy's post was all his hard work. Not Right. Willie wants to look like a guru and to look like he is working hard on information for the dinar community, when all he really is is a plagiarist. You or I should not be able to copy Scooter's post and claim we wrote it, Willie should not do the same with Rudy's post either.

[Eddinar]

I too appreciate all the information shared here, however it does matter who posted the orginal information. If someone is going to quote someone else's post, give the orginal poster credit or at least say you got the information from another site. What this Willie character did was claim Rudy's post was all his hard work. Not Right. Willie wants to look like a guru and to look like he is working hard on information for the dinar community, when all he really is is a plagiarist. You or I should not be able to copy Scooter's post and claim we wrote it, Willie should not do the same with Rudy's post either.

AGREED!!! WELL SAID.

Edited September 19, 2010 by Eddinar

[PuffsPlus]

As I continue to do college course work toward my Masters I find myself utilizing the research of others and citing their work appropriately. However, on many dinar sites the owners are using software programs that put a link back to their site of everything that is taken from one site to another in an effort to 1) give credit where credit is due & 2) drive more hits to their own sites. I have also noticed that these "links" are being deleted from posts at most sites (by either mods or owners) as each site tries to maintain its membership and discourage "sharing". I know things I have posted have been altered after the fact and I encourage you to give everybody the benefit of the doubt when it comes to giving credit...they may have given credit and it was deleted by site management.

I would also like to agree with everyone above who stated we are all adults and should share information without getting too bent out of shape about where it originated. I do realize some sources are putting out self serving b.s., and others are doing hard research, I appreciate the sharing of information and get a good chuckle out of the b.s.

It is helpful to know where a post originated but for the most part, if you've been around a while, you can figure out the good from the ridiculous.

PEACE, Lori

[dinarinmi]

Absolutely hilarious that 90% of the posts on these forums pertain to what or how people should post on these forums. Why is it so hard to understand that nobody is important, nobody is right, and nobody's opinion really matters? Nobody will ever be right about the date or rate, however, someone will be lucky.

[justin88]

Well I knew how alot of people act here so of course Im using my friends account THIS IS WILLIE. First of I never claimed this to be mine I was posted in the forums under my name and was taken to DD from his own staff. I have written Roger and said it in the comment I never claimed this as my work I know Rudolph XXXXX. I think the man thought it out well and did his homework. Now Im dont with that I will address you that attacked me personaly Yes I was banned from here because I opened my mouth and disagreed with something Adam said thats was between Him and I. Im not going in to any more than that he has my phone number if he ever wanted to discuss it.also Woody is one of the best news hounds there are and he is a good guy. I see why Sonny1 has taken a break from here some of you are very negative and attack everyone. Scooter and I talk to daily ask him what he thinks about me!!!! I have sonny1 home phone number I talk to him time to time, yet I guess im a bad person because I have a mind of my own. If any of you want to attack me man up and email me personally my email is XXXXXXXX@yahoo.com I will be glad to discuss it any time! I have respect for everyone the Mods here are good people and I know how hard their jobs really are and I miss alot of friends I made here, but most them have my email. I have never claimed to be in Iraq or any other country, I have made one date prediction I was wrong, but show me anyone that has been right????? Yes there are alot of rumors and straight up lies flying around the intrnet but I have stopped posting everywhere because of how bitter and hateful people are I stay in private SKYPE rooms that I talk with some of the most brilliant people there are Scooter yes I put you up there man, you know I have alot of respect for you and your work. Rudolph XXXXXI know you wrote this and I applogize to you personally for the mistake that was made by others, I did not even post your stuff on my forums nor did I send it to DD, I have written roger to remvoe my name from it you are do credit for your thoughts and work! great job keep it up dont let people effect you.

Thanks,

Willie

Ronscarpa my friend you are the one that built my confidence in investment many many months ago and you are still are great man. My hats of to you!!!

Edited September 23, 2010 by Munsch
Removed last name and email

[bonehead]

Absolutely hilarious that 90% of the posts on these forums pertain to what or how people should post on these forums. Why is it so hard to understand that nobody is important, nobody is right, and nobody's opinion really matters? Nobody will ever be right about the date or rate, however, someone will be lucky.

i think your right and i appreciate that opinion...way to many people in others business..they that express their thoughts about others negatively...really need to seek professional help ...yea i might have done it in the past (once or twice) but it was directed at the bashers....and i sought help and got it

Edited September 19, 2010 by bonehead