War Profitting

[QTen]

How many people here believe that George W. Bush and **** Cheney and their banker friends orchastrated the war in Iraq? If so, then they can not profit from this war for at least two years after leaving the Presidency Post. So we have 2011 is year. Take a break and go spend time with your family or plant some seeds in your garden.

[mythunter]

Do you also believe that Bush and Cheney planned the Sept. 11th attack on our nation so they could plan the invasion on Iraq?

Man, there are many conspiracy theories floating around, but to some how even conceive that some how Bush and his clan orchestrated the attack on Sept. 11th so they could then invade Iraq to profit from this is moronic. I usually do not believe in any bashing, but to even think or post this garbage is an insult to anyone that knows there is no way to correlate such an elaborate scheme to profit from.

This is completely stupid and I can not even believe I am wasting my time to respond to it.

You have a right to your opinion, just keep them to yourself.................

[Hopeful Leo]

Great post mythunter. +1 PS We have met before.

[Squadie]

Good point Thunder, all should respect these great men, their service to our country any action they had taken to protect us.

[lambert]

How many people here believe that George W. Bush and **** Cheney and their banker friends orchastrated the war in Iraq? If so, then they can not profit from this war for at least two years after leaving the Presidency Post. So we have 2011 is year. Take a break and go spend time with your family or plant some seeds in your garden.

and just how long have we been a critical thinker? You must be newer than you sound. Just outta the liberal womb eh?

[Soledad]

How many people here believe that George W. Bush and **** Cheney and their banker friends orchastrated the war in Iraq? If so, then they can not profit from this war for at least two years after leaving the Presidency Post. So we have 2011 is year. Take a break and go spend time with your family or plant some seeds in your garden.

DIG A HOLE AND HIDE! ! ! ! ! !

[LUHRST32]

Not a great way to start as a newbie. Just how far LEFT are you?

[pourit]

When the election is over in 90 days he will be LEFT behind.

[QTen]

Do you also believe that Bush and Cheney planned the Sept. 11th attack on our nation so they could plan the invasion on Iraq?

Man, there are many conspiracy theories floating around, but to some how even conceive that some how Bush and his clan orchestrated the attack on Sept. 11th so they could then invade Iraq to profit from this is moronic. I usually do not believe in any bashing, but to even think or post this garbage is an insult to anyone that knows there is no way to correlate such an elaborate scheme to profit from.

This is completely stupid and I can not even believe I am wasting my time to respond to it.

You have a right to your opinion, just keep them to yourself.................

If you would slow down and actually read my post you would see that it was a question. Let me help you with the meaning of a "Question"....It is a noun. An expression of inquiry that invites or calls for a reply. An interrogative sentence, phrase, or gesture. A subject or point open to controversy or issue. A difficult matter or problem. A point or subject under discussion or being considered.

Have a wonderful day in your little world.

and just how long have we been a critical thinker? You must be newer than you sound. Just outta the liberal womb eh?

And in your opinion, what is the true reason why we invaded Iraq and spend $1 Billion per month rebuilding that country while our country (USA) is suffering from low employment to our school system not having enough money for sports program?

[QTen]

DIG A HOLE AND HIDE! ! ! ! ! !

It must be great to be a groundhog. Stay in the hole Mr. Punxsutawney and come out in 2011.

[BIGCG]

How many people here believe that George W. Bush and **** Cheney and their banker friends orchastrated the war in Iraq? If so, then they can not profit from this war for at least two years after leaving the Presidency Post. So we have 2011 is year. Take a break and go spend time with your family or plant some seeds in your garden.

Dont listen to these people bash or talk **** to you - This mess was started going all the way back to the persian gulf war when GWB Sr was in office. He didnt get the job done. When GWB Jr took office it was one of things on his to do list. The whole WMD's was a total smokescreen for us to go invade Iraq, get rid of Sadddam and take control of the OIL. This was planned for MANY years i tell ya. Oh yea like everyone likes to say on here this is just my opinion.

[DALLASDCC]

If you would slow down and actually read my post you would see that it was a question. Let me help you with the meaning of a "Question"....It is a noun. An expression of inquiry that invites or calls for a reply. An interrogative sentence, phrase, or gesture. A subject or point open to controversy or issue. A difficult matter or problem. A point or subject under discussion or being considered.

Have a wonderful day in your little world.

And in your opinion, what is the true reason why we invaded Iraq and spend $1 Billion per month rebuilding that country while our country (USA) is suffering from low employment to our school system not having enough money for sports program?

JAQing off is the act of spouting accusations while cowardly hiding behind the claim of "Just Asking Questions". The strategy is to keep asking leading questions in an attempt to influence listeners' views; the term is derived from the frequent claim by the denialist that they are "just asking questions", albeit in a manner much the same as political push polls. It is often associated with denial-ism in general.

TAKEN FROM :RationalWiki

[wbuse984]

QTen: the short answer to your question is no...they did not do that, and if they did and wanted to profit from it all they need do is purchase Dinar as private citizens...pretty much setting up a straw man to knock down...disappointing post to be sure, as well as your responses...not impressed...

BIGCG: Obviously you must support the current powers that be in Washington and are a member of the blame Bush crowd...very small minded and not supported by facts...the idiots policies in Washington is bad for our country and that will be felt in the coming years unless it can be undone by the American people by voting out the left-wingers now in power in Washington, as well as so-called moderate republicans who don't have the backbone to stand up to Obama and Pelosi...

This country did not go to war over oil, Saddam did have WMD's which he used against the Kurds and Iran, and most likely sold and moved them to the highest bidder (most likely elements in Syria)...not to mention with an entire countries resources he could have gotten them on relatively short notice...

It is disappointing to think that a large number of Americans are members of the "Blame America First" or "Blame Bush" crowd...our is not perfect and has many blemishes, but is the only country that allows real opportunity for all, if you don't believe me see "African American in the White House" who can also be found apologizing for big bad American, try YouTube...

I sincerely hope the door knobs in Washington (read: Left-wing Democrats and Republicrats) are shown the door by the American People this November and in 2012...

Good Day...

[Jac]

QTen: the short answer to your question is no...they did not do that, and if they did and wanted to profit from it all they need do is purchase Dinar as private citizens...pretty much setting up a straw man to knock down...disappointing post to be sure, as well as your responses...not impressed...

BIGCG: Obviously you must support the current powers that be in Washington and are a member of the blame Bush crowd...very small minded and not supported by facts...the idiots policies in Washington is bad for our country and that will be felt in the coming years unless it can be undone by the American people by voting out the left-wingers now in power in Washington, as well as so-called moderate republicans who don't have the backbone to stand up to Obama and Pelosi...

This country did not go to war over oil, Saddam did have WMD's which he used against the Kurds and Iran, and most likely sold and moved them to the highest bidder (most likely elements in Syria)...not to mention with an entire countries resources he could have gotten them on relatively short notice...

It is disappointing to think that a large number of Americans are members of the "Blame America First" or "Blame Bush" crowd...our is not perfect and has many blemishes, but is the only country that allows real opportunity for all, if you don't believe me see "African American in the White House" who can also be found apologizing for big bad American, try YouTube...

I sincerely hope the door knobs in Washington (read: Left-wing Democrats and Republicrats) are shown the door by the American People this November and in 2012...

Good Day...

Bravo! Bravo! Aplause to you. Standing ovation too, YEA!! Thank you, my sentiments, exactly and by the way Qman's post today with this link should be of interest to the bashers. KISS Dedication at

[Niko]

DIG A HOLE AND HIDE! ! ! ! ! !

pretty sure Qten has already done that.........

[Doc31]

How many people here believe that George W. Bush and **** Cheney and their banker friends orchastrated the war in Iraq? If so, then they can not profit from this war for at least two years after leaving the Presidency Post. So we have 2011 is year. Take a break and go spend time with your family or plant some seeds in your garden.

Wow ... currently you have a negative 59 on your very first 3 posts on your very first day in DV!

I don't know what you were really trying to do ... but here's a piece of FRIENDLY advice ... when you mess something up or something you say isn't perceived the way you meant it ... JUST QUIT DIGGING ... drop it (22 of those negative points were on your responses)

Go on and study a while and ask some questions that aren't so provocative in nature if you are really seeking info and learn. Hardly anyone here posted in their first few months ... just read and learned.

Folks here aren't bad ... in fact when someone once bashed me in the past ... guys I don't even know except by their posts jumped in to defend me. That's pretty cool when you think about it.

Now if you are looking for a bastion of leftist nonsense or Obamunism ... you have really come to the wrong place ... find folks who you can identify with. And I'm not saying everyone here is nice or that there aren't some IQD holders of the Democratic persuasion ... of course there are. But for the most part we all try and keep it civil.

Think about it ... and ...

Peace

Doc31

Edited August 4, 2010 by Doc31

[socko]

QTen: the short answer to your question is no...they did not do that, and if they did and wanted to profit from it all they need do is purchase Dinar as private citizens...pretty much setting up a straw man to knock down...disappointing post to be sure, as well as your responses...not impressed...

BIGCG: Obviously you must support the current powers that be in Washington and are a member of the blame Bush crowd...very small minded and not supported by facts...the idiots policies in Washington is bad for our country and that will be felt in the coming years unless it can be undone by the American people by voting out the left-wingers now in power in Washington, as well as so-called moderate republicans who don't have the backbone to stand up to Obama and Pelosi...

This country did not go to war over oil, Saddam did have WMD's which he used against the Kurds and Iran, and most likely sold and moved them to the highest bidder (most likely elements in Syria)...not to mention with an entire countries resources he could have gotten them on relatively short notice...

It is disappointing to think that a large number of Americans are members of the "Blame America First" or "Blame Bush" crowd...our is not perfect and has many blemishes, but is the only country that allows real opportunity for all, if you don't believe me see "African American in the White House" who can also be found apologizing for big bad American, try YouTube...

I sincerely hope the door knobs in Washington (read: Left-wing Democrats and Republicrats) are shown the door by the American People this November and in 2012...

Good Day...

GREAT RESPONSE COULD NOT OF SAID IT BETTER

[alice]

qten...seriously? Take a look around the marxist regime currently taking over the former USA...then take a reality pill an( or ten)

and pray that this rv happens soon (thanking bush and cheney) then those of us that stridently differ from you can peacefully part ways and reignite capitolism with our well made earnings!

Now that my friend is how you"spread the wealth around" not by socialistic or marxist thought, but by good old american capitolism.God bless you and good day.

Alice

[socko]

Bravo! Bravo! Aplause to you. Standing ovation too, YEA!! Thank you, my sentiments, exactly and by the way Qman's post today with this link should be of interest to the bashers. KISS Dedication at

GOOD YOUTUBE SHOULD BE A MUST SEE FOR EVERYONE. GOD BLESS OUR MEN AND WOMEN

[QTen]

Ladies and Gentlemen I thank you all for responding to my question. It was not my intention to bring up socialism, Obamaism, conspiracy theory, or extreme leftist thinking. I am a vetaran of this current war. I simply ask a question and I was looking for someone on this forum who is smarter than I that can point me in the right direction in where I can find the answer to my question.

And I don't care about being popular in a forum. This is not high school and I really don't care if my answer impresses anyone.

Here's a thought. To honor Veterans is to stop making more of them.

[deenar]

Ladies and Gentlemen I thank you all for responding to my question. It was not my intention to bring up socialism, Obamaism, conspiracy theory, or extreme leftist thinking. I am a vetaran of this current war. I simply ask a question and I was looking for someone on this forum who is smarter than I that can point me in the right direction in where I can find the answer to my question.

And I don't care about being popular in a forum. This is not high school and I really don't care if my answer impresses anyone.

Here's a thought. To honor Veterans is to stop making more of them.

You commie piece of @@@@! No one asked to be a vet! So your answer is stop fighting? Do not ever defend the US? Typical libtard, no brain.

[NotReallyTex]

Ladies and Gentlemen I thank you all for responding to my question. It was not my intention to bring up socialism, Obamaism, conspiracy theory, or extreme leftist thinking. I am a vetaran of this current war. I simply ask a question and I was looking for someone on this forum who is smarter than I that can point me in the right direction in where I can find the answer to my question.

And I don't care about being popular in a forum. This is not high school and I really don't care if my answer impresses anyone.

Here's a thought. To honor Veterans is to stop making more of them.

QTen I really didn't see anything wrong with your question, after all if was just a question. If it were not for questions how would we have answers to anything. I ask myself all kinds of things about this war and about this whole dinar thing. I just don't always ask the questions and doubts in my head out loud.

Do I think this whole war thing was planned? I really don't know for sure. I would hate to think so but to be honest I think Bush was probably waiting for a reason to start this war. I don't think 911 was something we planned though. I do believe Bush and Cheney profited an every way they could without giving anyone else a second thought.

And yes I am a Republican and a Texan ....... I guess I'll go get my foil now

[DALLASDCC]

Ladies and Gentlemen I thank you all for responding to my question. It was not my intention to bring up socialism, Obamaism, conspiracy theory, or extreme leftist thinking. I am a vetaran of this current war. I simply ask a question and I was looking for someone on this forum who is smarter than I that can point me in the right direction in where I can find the answer to my question.

And I don't care about being popular in a forum. This is not high school and I really don't care if my answer impresses anyone.

Here's a thought. To honor Veterans is to stop making more of them.

On January 16, 1991 President George H.W. Bush announced that twenty eight countries with forces in the Gulf began military operations to remove Saddam Hussein's army from Kuwait. "Some may ask: Why act now? Why not wait? The answer is clear: The world could wait no longer. Sanctions, though having some effect, showed no signs of accomplishing their objective. Sanctions were tried for well over 5 months, and we and our allies concluded that sanctions alone would not force Saddam from Kuwait. While the world waited, Saddam Hussein systematically raped, pillaged, and plundered a tiny nation, no threat to his own. He subjected the people of Kuwait to unspeakable atrocities -- and among those maimed and murdered, innocent children."

Throughout the 1990's the U.S. Department of State listed Iraq as a country known to sponsor international terrorism. The Department of State's 1994 Patterns of Global Terrorism report stated, "Since 1991, in violation of UN Security Council resolutions, the Government of Iraq has obstructed the international community's provision of humanitarian assistance. We believe that Iraq is responsible for more than 100 attacks on relief personnel and aid convoys over the past four years. Moreover, the Government of Iraq has offered monetary 'bounties' to anyone who assassinates UN and other international relief workers."

The U.S. Department of State's 1995 Patterns of Global Terrorism report stated, "Iraq continues to provide haven and training facilities for several terrorist clients. Abu Abbas' Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) maintains its headquarters in Baghdad. The Abu Nidal organization (ANO) continues to have an office in Baghdad. The Arab Liberation Front (ALF), headquartered in Baghdad, continues to receive funding from Saddam's regime. Iraq also continues to host the former head of the now-defunct 15 May organization, Abu Ibrahim, who masterminded several bombings of US aircraft."

On September 4, 1996, Newsday reported the United States had launched a cruise missile strike the prior day against Saddam Hussein to make him "pay a price" for unleashing his army against the northern Kurds. Over a two day period the United States launched a total of 44 cruise missiles into Iraq. President Clinton said, "Our objectives are limited but clear: To make Saddam pay a price for the latest act of brutality, reducing his ability to threaten his neighbors and America's interests."

On September 12, 1996, National Public Radio interviewed a former CIA chief of counter-terrorism who said Iraq might have been a state sponsor behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. NPR pointed out that Ramzi Ahmed Yousef came to the United States with an Iraqi passport and also reported that indicted co-conspirator Abdul Rahman Yasin was currently living in Baghdad.

On March 2, 1998, U.S. News & World Report wrote that Saddam Hussein had dispatched some 30 terrorist teams around the world to strike U.S. interests prior to the first Gulf War. Disaster was averted, the article reported, by a combination of U.S. intelligence and Iraqi incompetence. Iraq had shipped automatic weapons and explosives to embassies overseas but most of the Iraqi agents were amateurish and easily detected. Two men who did get through accidentally blew themselves up in the Philippines before they could bomb a U.S. cultural center in Manila.

On January 27, 1999 an article in the New York Times titled "A Much-Shunned Terrorist Is Said to Find Haven in Iraq" stated that "Abu Nidal, one of the world's most infamous terrorists, moved to Baghdad late last year and obtained the protection of President Saddam Hussein, according to intelligence reports received by United States and Middle Eastern government officials." The article quoted a counterterrorism expert who said that, regarding Abu Nidal, "Osama bin Laden is a student by comparison."

On January 12, 2001 The Miami Herald reported that the Navy changed the status of Lt. Commander Michael Scott Speicher from killed in action to missing. Speicher was listed as the first casualty of the Gulf War when his F/A-18 Hornet was shot down on January 17, 1991. This change in status also makes him the last to be still unaccounted for. President Clinton said information about the case "makes us believe that at least he survived his crash... and that he might be alive." Clinton said U.S. officials have begun trying to determine whether Speicher is alive, and "if he is, where he is and how we can get him out."

After the Gulf War in 1991, no-fly zones were established in northern and southern Iraq to protect the Iraqi Kurds and Shiites from Saddam's forces. The U.S. military enforced these no-fly zones up until the second Iraq war in March 2003. Iraq considered this an affront to its sovereignty and in December 1998 began shooting at American aircraft patrolling these zones. On March 28, 2001, General Tommy Franks reported to the House Armed Services Committee that during the prior year alone, coalition forces had flown nearly 10,000 sorties inside Iraqi airspace and those aircraft were engaged by surface-to-air missiles or anti-aircraft fire more than 500 times. Franks reported that during the prior year, naval forces had intercepted 610 ships while enforcing U.N. sanctions designed to limit Saddam Hussein's ability to smuggle oil out of Iraq. On any given day, U.S. Central Command operated in the region with some 30 naval vessels, 175-200 military aircraft, and between 18,000 and 25,000 Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Coast Guardsmen, and Marines

TAKEN FROM REASONS FOR WAR WITH IRAQ

Just a few of the reasons that we went to war, I can site others if you wish. It is a disservice to the men and women who died to even suggest that we fought for war profits, and disgusts me that you even asked that question. We resisted war with Iraq for years till finally pushed into it by that despot Hussein, a little lite reading of recent history could clear up any misconceptions that conspiracy websites have placed in your head.

Edited August 5, 2010 by DALLASDCC

[wbuse984]

DALLASDCC...your post is excellent...I am a veteran from the 1991 war with Iraq...Qten is one of the few liberal folks that are in the Military...most military people have the liberal non-sense removed by seeing what the world is really like and what honorable men and women that the US produces are really like...Qten is basically saying the US military are acting as mercenaries...that is reprehensible...but, our constitution allows Qtens opinion, as well as ours, it is what I fought for...too many people do not understand that it is better to engage the enemy on foreign soil than on our own, and if you don't...THEY WILL COME HERE (and have as 9/11 showed)...I say take em out at the source...I for one took the "red pill" vs the "blue pill" ... sheesh...

[Dryden01]

Qten should immediately begin singing Kumbaya and flagellating himself to relieve the guilt that the Bolshevik liberals have polluted Qten's mind with. The right thing for Qten to do will be to give any profits Qten realizes to the Obama Administration so the Maoists can distribute it to the rest of the willfully unproductive.