OBLAMER is going to give 5 million illegals amnesty regardless what the US thinks!

[DiveDeepSix]

This guy needs to be impeached and imprisoned as a traitor to the United States.  He is blatantly going against the will of the people trampling our constitution and letting these ILLEGALS become citizens to gain votes, that's the only reason behind it, new voters for the Demorats!  Pathetic, he cares nothing about working together, he couldn't get this crap through when he had the WH and the whole congress, but now the cry baby ego maniac is gonna ram some more Obummer crap down our throats!      

 

 

Obama plan would shield up to 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation

WASHINGTON, Nov 13 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama plans to announce an overhaul of U.S. immigration policy through executive action that would shield up to 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation, the New York Times reported on Thursday.

Such a move will set up a showdown with Republicans, who have blocked Democrats' efforts in Congress to reform immigration laws and warned the president not to take unilateral action on immigration.

The Times, citing unidentified administration officials with direct knowledge of the plan, said Obama's proposed overhaul may be announced as soon as next week. Officials said it would allow many parents of children who are U.S. citizens or legal residents to obtain work documents and stay in the United States.

The Times said Obama's plan will provide more opportunities for immigrants with high-tech skills and add security resources to the border with Mexico. Undocumented immigrants with family ties in the United States and no criminal record also would be considered lower priority for deportation than those with criminal records or who are considered security risks.

Republicans, who won control of Congress in Nov. 4 elections, have warned Obama not to take unilateral action on immigration.

Obama told congressional leaders last Friday he was committed to using executive powers to ease some restrictions on undocumented immigrants since Republicans in the House of Representatives had refused to advance immigration legislation.

Mitch McConnell, who will be Senate majority leader starting in January, said if Obama took unilateral action on immigration, it would be like "waving a red flag in front of a bull."

When the new Congress convenes in January, Republicans will have majorities in both chambers.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-plan-would-shield-up-to-5-million-undocumented-immigrants-from-deportation/ar-BBdx2Jb

Here is some more info from another article on it, with better numbers as to what he wants done:

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-plans-to-protect-up-to-5-million-from-deportation/ar-BBdwNAe

 

Obama Plans to Protect Up to 5 Million From Deportation

 

WASHINGTON — President Obama will ignore angry protests from Republicans and announce as soon as next week a broad overhaul of the nation’s immigration enforcement system that will protect up to five million undocumented immigrants from the threat of deportation and provide many of them with work permits, according to administration officials who have direct knowledge of the plan.

Asserting his authority as president to enforce the nation’s laws with discretion, Mr. Obama intends to order changes that will significantly refocus the activities of the government’s 12,000 immigration agents. One key piece of the order, officials said, will allow many parents of children who are American citizens or legal residents to obtain legal work documents and no longer worry about being discovered, separated from their families and sent away.

That part of Mr. Obama’s plan alone could affect as many as 3.3 million people who have been living in the United States illegally for at least five years, according to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, an immigration research organization in Washington. But the White House is also considering a stricter policy that would limit the benefits to people who have lived in the country for at least 10 years, or about 2.5 million people.

Extending protections to more undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children, and to their parents, could affect an additional one million or more if they are included in the final plan that the president announces.

Mr. Obama’s actions will also expand opportunities for immigrants who have high-tech skills, shift extra security resources to the nation’s southern border, revamp a controversial immigration enforcement program called Secure Communities, and provide clearer guidance to the agencies that enforce immigration laws about who should be a low priority for deportation, especially those with strong family ties and no serious criminal history.

A new enforcement memorandum, which will direct the actions of Border Patrol agents and judges at the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and other federal law enforcement and judicial agencies, will make clear that deportations should still proceed for convicted criminals, foreigners who pose national security risks and recent border crossers, officials said.

White House officials declined to comment publicly before a formal announcement by Mr. Obama, who will return from an eight-day trip to Asia on Sunday. Administration officials said details about the package of executive actions were still being finished and could change. An announcement could be pushed off until next month but will not be delayed into next year, officials said.

“Before the end of the year, we’re going to take whatever lawful actions that I can take that I believe will improve the functioning of our immigration system,” Mr. Obama said during a news conference a day after last week’s midterm elections. “What I’m not going to do is just wait.”

The decision to move forward sets in motion a political confrontation between Mr. Obama and his Republican adversaries that is likely to affect budget negotiations and debate about Loretta E. Lynch, the president’s nominee to be attorney general, during the lame-duck session of Congress that began this week. It is certain to further enrage Republicans as they take control of both chambers of Congress early next year.

A group of Republicans — led by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, Senator Mike Lee of Utah and Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama — is already planning to thwart any executive action by the president on immigration. The senators are hoping to rally their fellow Republicans to oppose efforts to pass a budget next month unless it explicitly prohibits the president from enacting what they call “executive amnesty” for people in the country illegally.

“Our office stands ready to use any procedural means available to make sure the president can’t enact his illegal executive amnesty,” said Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Mr. Cruz.

But the president and his top aides have concluded that acting unilaterally is in the interest of the country and the only way to increase political pressure on Republicans to eventually support a legislative overhaul that could put millions of illegal immigrants on a path to legal status and perhaps citizenship. Mr. Obama has told lawmakers privately and publicly that he will reverse his executive orders if they pass a comprehensive bill that he agrees to sign.

White House officials reject as overblown the dire warnings from some in Congress who predict that such a sweeping use of presidential power will undermine any possibility for cooperation in Washington with the newly empowered Republican majority.

“I think it will create a backlash in the country that could actually set the cause back and inflame our politics in a way that I don’t think will be conducive to solving the problem,” said Senator Angus King of Maine, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats and supports an immigration overhaul.

The question of when the president should make the announcement is still being discussed inside the West Wing, officials said. Announcing the actions quickly could give Mr. Cruz and others a specific target to attack, but it would also allow immigration advocates to defend it. Waiting until later in December could allow the budget to be approved before setting off a fight over immigration.

Although a Republican president could reverse Mr. Obama’s overhaul of the system after he leaves office in January 2017, the president’s action at least for now will remove the threat of deportation for millions of people in Latino and other immigrant communities. Immigration agents are to instead focus on gang members, narcotics traffickers and potential terrorists.

Officials said one of the primary considerations for the president has been to take actions that can withstand the legal challenges that they expect will come quickly from Republicans. A senior administration official said lawyers had been working for months to make sure the president’s proposal would be “legally unassailable” when he presented it.

Most of the major elements of the president’s plan are based on longstanding legal precedents that give the executive branch the right to exercise “prosecutorial discretion” in how it enforces the laws. That was the basis of a 2012 decision to protect from deportation the so-called Dreamers, who came to the United States as young children. The new announcement will be based on a similar legal theory, officials said.

The White House expects a chorus of outside legal experts to back it up once Mr. Obama makes the plan official. In several “listening sessions” at the White House over the last year, immigration activists came armed with legal briefs, and White House officials believe those arguments will quickly form the basis of the public defense of his actions.

Many pro-immigration groups and advocates — as well as the Hispanic voters who could be crucial for Democrats’ hopes of winning the White House in 2016 — are expecting bold action, having grown increasingly frustrated after watching a sweeping bipartisan immigration bill fall prey to a gridlocked Congress last year.

“This is his last chance to make good on his promise to fix the system,” said Kevin Appleby, the director of migration policy at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. “If he delays again, the immigration activists would — just politically speaking — jump the White House fence.”

Some groups, like the United We Dream network, the largest organization of young undocumented immigrants, are preparing to deploy teams to early 2016 states like Iowa and New Hampshire to press the case that Mr. Obama and Democrats stood by Hispanic voters before the presidential campaign.

“From our perspective, the president has the power, the precedent and the priority for action on his side,” said Clarissa Martínez-De-Castro, deputy vice president of the National Council of La Raza. The opportunity “to go big and bold is what will allow the country to derive the biggest benefit on both the economic side and the national security side.”

[Shabibilicious]

Whew.....higher manual labor costs have just been averted.     Hey Peapod....need a cheese tray to go with all that whine?.  Just kidding buddy.  I don't even know any illegal immigrants.    

 

GO RV, and NO BV

[Deborah Layne]

Is there any legitimate doubt that this man was born and raised for the sole purpose of destroying this country?

[DiveDeepSix]

Is there any legitimate doubt that this man was born and raised for the sole purpose of destroying this country?

 

I have no doubts that is his life's aspiration, he thinks of the US as colonialism at its worst and wants to destroy it, he's said it himself in his books, look at his appointees, teachers, and people he associates with, the man hates the USA!

Whew.....higher manual labor costs have just been averted.     Hey Peapod....need a cheese tray to go with all that whine?.  Just kidding buddy.  I don't even know any illegal immigrants.    

 

GO RV, and NO BV

 

  Cheese tray with my beer!!!  I have no problem with immigration, that's a good thing, however there is a huge difference between immigration and illegal immigration.  If you want to be a citizen, get in line and follow the rules, the only thing this type of legislation does is tells illegals, hey you sneak in and milk the tax payers long enough and some idiot will make you citizens so you can vote for the next idiot.  5 million now, 15 million more later, another 30 million when they see what's happening, hell we may as well annex Mexico into the US problem solved!!   

[cooperwaits]

I do know some Mexican folk myself, who have  followed the rules, worked hard, educated themselves and gotten their legal US citizenship's.    What does this say to them?  That their hard work was not needed?  

[Bunk]

 Obama wants to give these People the same rights as He received..   ...

[bostonangler]

He's just following W's plan... How soon we forget...

 

 

B/A

[gymrat76541]

_{So if you illegally  came into America and gave birth.............................you get to stay? WOW}

 

_{Imagine how many more are going to jointhe medness!}

[unirod]

I do know some Mexican folk myself, who have  followed the rules, worked hard, educated themselves and gotten their legal US citizenship's.    What does this say to them?  That their hard work was not needed?

"cooperwaits" It took some guts to make your comment here in white America! I'm 4th generation Mexican American. My Grandmother came into the United States in 1917 when Pancho Via was riding during the Mexican Revolution. I asked her how it was that her father My Great Grandfather had a job waiting for him in Pennsylvania, working for the railroad. My Grandmother told me that during WWI when the American boys were in Europe fighting the war, our government(USA) contracted with Mexican laborers to keep the American factories and infrastructure operating. Railroads, coal mines, farms, etc. all had a labor shortage. The same was true during WWII. During those years the immigration process was very simple and uncomplicated. Today it's a government monster sucking up Billions of our tax $$$ and it's a ridiculous political argument used by both parties to keep white America dumbed down about modern history. The finest wines in the world come from Napa valley California. Napa Valley has made huge fortunes for many of it's owners who continue to use Mexican labor Legal and illegal. The food on white Americans tables today is picked by legal and illegal Mexican labor. And there is still a farm labor shortage! the facts are that you'll never see white America hunched over with their butts in the air picking crops! their busy standing in line for the next handout! We are already seeing a spike in food prices because of inflation. The inflation cause? stupid white America Banking practice! You want higher prices with food? then legalize 10 million illegals! Yes there is criminals that are illegals. Law enforcement can and does act to get them off our streets. I hope nobody wants to debate this ignorant political topic because it's become a topic of propaganda for fools!....IMO.....And BTW, my mother is Scotch/Irish/English. A long line of Southern plantation owners and Northern industrialists. So if anyone is offended at my term White America, I'm White America too! I look to play both sides of the fence for the advantage! Peace friends!!

[v-star 650]

lets  not for get ,  this is in a lame duck session ,  and  I doubt any thing will get passed !   maybe  arms and money against isis,  watch out for  the  I`ll forget  the immigration thing if you pass this   other deal

[gymrat76541]

Much as I hate to say it; unilateral action on immigration may be the ONLY way any immigration reform will be passed.

 

Big Business is using illegal immigrants to save money on labor cost! The Republican party supports big business so I lay the blame on them!

Big Buisiness has cut down the Middle Class by cutting jobs, sending jobs overseas, and moving their headquarters to other countries in their greed for profits. Yes, they are in business to make money - but - the welfare of the economy & our people should be a priority as well.

 

Pick any major hotel/construction site/uniform service, etc, etc in any major city and you take away the illegal workers & you will effectively shut that business down! There are laws to protect against this practice but they are not enforced. They hire illegals through third party companies & appear clean! LOL

 

If these illegals are made legal overnight - they would be entitled to a higher wage & benefits as are US citizens! Thus - I do not see the Republican Party allowing any action being taken. ;(

[leanonme]

Obumer is doing as he is told to do. He is a good pupet. There are many more pupets just like him in our government. Follow the money.

[DiveDeepSix]

I do know some Mexican folk myself, who have  followed the rules, worked hard, educated themselves and gotten their legal US citizenship's.    What does this say to them?  That their hard work was not needed?  

I know some as well, what it says to them is everything you did is for nothing, because if you would have broke the law and sucked tax dollars away from Americans, the government will make you a citizen anyway.  What's sad is they probably can live better here without being "citizens", that would be where the free ride ends and they would have to start paying to support the riff raff.

 Obama wants to give these People the same rights as He received..   ...

 

No doubt.

He's just following W's plan... How soon we forget...

 

 

B/A

 

There it is the token response, but, but, but, but Bush ............................................ It's in black and white, he's doing this to try and increase the Dem voting base for 2016.  America doesn't want it, just like we didn't want Obummercare, but our dictator in chief doesn't care what we want and he sure as hell doesn't care what's in the best interests of this country.  What ever it takes to stroke his ego as emperor is what he's going to do. 

lets  not for get ,  this is in a lame duck session ,  and  I doubt any thing will get passed !   maybe  arms and money against isis,  watch out for  the  I`ll forget  the immigration thing if you pass this   other deal

 

That's the problem, he is going to do it by himself and bypass congress.

As far as the big business shipping jobs overseas argument, it's obviously being thrown out by people who have never owned a business.  Can you really blame them for moving to a more business friendly environment (not the US)?  You know the kind where the government won't tax you to the point your employees make more then you do owning the business, or the unions don't control everything you do and force you to pay people ridiculous wages to have them sit on their @$$es?  I don't blame business one bit, for looking to increase their bottom lines, who are these people to complain and try and  control them and their profit margins?  It's none of their business, it's not their business nor is it their money.  Hey if you want to start your own business and pay your employees $100 per hour to flip burgers, go for it, don't tell me what to do with mine.  It's so easy for people to whine about this or that as long as it isn't THEIR money that gets affected, imagine that.  Anyone with that argument should ask Adam here on DV why he recommends moving accounts off shore.  The US is not a friendly place to be if you have money, and the dumb @$$ liberals continue to try and steal it from others as long as nobody takes their piece of the pie, if that happens then they scream bloody murder.

Edited November 14, 2014 by DiveDeepSix

[Bunk]

I know some as well, what it says to them is everything you did is for nothing, because if you would have broke the law and sucked tax dollars away from Americans, the government will make you a citizen anyway.  What's sad is they probably can live better here without being "citizens", that would be where the free ride ends and they would have to start paying to support the riff raff.

 

No doubt.

 

There it is the token response, but, but, but, but Bush ............................................ It's in black and white, he's doing this to try and increase the Dem voting base for 2016.  America doesn't want it, just like we didn't want Obummercare, but our dictator in chief doesn't care what we want and he sure as hell doesn't care what's in the best interests of this country.  What ever it takes to stroke his ego as emperor is what he's going to do. 

 

That's the problem, he is going to do it by himself and bypass congress.

As far as the big business shipping jobs overseas argument, it's obviously being thrown out by people who have never owned a business.  Can you really blame them for moving to a more business friendly environment (not the US)?  You know the kind where the government won't tax you to the point your employees make more then you do owning the business, or the unions don't control everything you do and force you to pay people ridiculous wages to have them sit on their @$$es?  I don't blame business one bit, for looking to increase their bottom lines, who are these people to complain and try and  control them and their profit margins?  It's none of their business, it's not their business nor is it their money.  Hey if you want to start your own business and pay your employees $100 per hour to flip burgers, go for it, don't tell me what to do with mine.  It's so easy for people to whine about this or that as long as it isn't THEIR money that gets affected, imagine that.  Anyone with that argument should ask Adam here on DV why he recommends moving accounts off shore.  The US is not a friendly place to be if you have money, and the dumb @$$ liberals continue to try and steal it from others as long as nobody takes their piece of the pie, if that happens then they scream bloody murder.

 

   I concur...