Double R Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 About 2 years ago, a poster named Dr. J (Michael Johnson is his name) stated that the RV would not happen until at least the end of 2012. This was his opinion based on information he received from some Wall Street contacts. At the time, many mocked him and said no way would it take that long and basically ran him off this site (count me in that group). Well, here we are getting closer to the end of 2012 and still no RV. It didn't occur to me at the time to put 2 and 2 together and ask "Why would he say until at least th end of 2012 without detailing why he thought that way?" There have been numerous theories that the triggering of this event is tied into selected high-profile individuals that can give it the yea or nay. After all, many here have taken the position that Obama and the powers that be would push the trigger to jumpstart the economy and thus enhance the election chances. Now I think this thing will NEVER happen as long as Obama is in the White House. I went and watched Dinesh D'Sousa's 2016 today and the theory he posts (and validates) is that Obama has been brought up with an "anti-Colonialism" view of the United States and our allies, through the influences of his father, Frank Marshall Davis and another individual that was a anti-Colonialist professor at Harvard. That all the wealth we have has been stolen from other countries. Since I wholeheartedly agree that this guy views our founding and our exceptionalism as unjust, I believe there is ZERO chance we will see an RV until he's out of office. His personal viewpoint with the RV would be that we're stealing money from Iraq and he's never going to let that happen based on what I watched today. A few weeks ago, Roger at DD cryptically posted some things that implied if we wanted an RV, it would be tied to Mitt Romney. I think Dr. J is right on-the reason he said "at least 2012" is because if Obama gets 4 more years, it won't be until 2016 if we still have a country left. 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandy Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Double R, Thanks for the post and your opinion...good points even though we can only guess at the underlying reasons for much of what has, is and will transpire. I have always held the opinion that some major players are always overlooked in much of the world's events. Too many people are quick to scream conspiracy theories without doing their due diligence. Just because we don't understand something does not negate the fact that there are sinister reasons and influences at work due to greed and corruption. Easy to blame one political player or another but....big but....maybe they are all political puppets with less power and influence than what the biased reports coming from their media as well as ours would have us believe. So far...the facts have been somewhat in limbo! I don't think any one individual has a headlock on the "real" circumstances on the Iraq situation, the currency outcome or the ME future for that matter...and with that we can include my ignorance as well....cheers...maybe soon! again thx for the post~ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Well lets show O the door 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyruxbin Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 About 2 years ago, a poster named Dr. J (Michael Johnson is his name) stated that the RV would not happen until at least the end of 2012. This was his opinion based on information he received from some Wall Street contacts. At the time, many mocked him and said no way would it take that long and basically ran him off this site (count me in that group). Well, here we are getting closer to the end of 2012 and still no RV. It didn't occur to me at the time to put 2 and 2 together and ask "Why would he say until at least th end of 2012 without detailing why he thought that way?" There have been numerous theories that the triggering of this event is tied into selected high-profile individuals that can give it the yea or nay. After all, many here have taken the position that Obama and the powers that be would push the trigger to jumpstart the economy and thus enhance the election chances. Now I think this thing will NEVER happen as long as Obama is in the White House. I went and watched Dinesh D'Sousa's 2016 today and the theory he posts (and validates) is that Obama has been brought up with an "anti-Colonialism" view of the United States and our allies, through the influences of his father, Frank Marshall Davis and another individual that was a anti-Colonialist professor at Harvard. That all the wealth we have has been stolen from other countries. Since I wholeheartedly agree that this guy views our founding and our exceptionalism as unjust, I believe there is ZERO chance we will see an RV until he's out of office. His personal viewpoint with the RV would be that we're stealing money from Iraq and he's never going to let that happen based on what I watched today. A few weeks ago, Roger at DD cryptically posted some things that implied if we wanted an RV, it would be tied to Mitt Romney. I think Dr. J is right on-the reason he said "at least 2012" is because if Obama gets 4 more years, it won't be until 2016 if we still have a country left. Dude..Obama and Romney are cut from the same mold...globalist shills. People don't like to hear this but neither one of these clowns are for the best interests of the american people. Singling Obama out is pure propaganda.This country WILL NOT be restored folks..because it is owned and payed for by people with special interests. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cslewis Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) I don"t post often, but I find it difficult to believe that Obama, Romney or any other political figure, past or present, in the U.S. or abroad have any influence over if/when/how the change in the value of the Dinar happens. I believe that they are simply the mouth pieces of those with far more sinister plans than most of us can imagine. Edited August 27, 2012 by cslewis 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrich Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 lol obama has nothing to do with whether or not iraq is going to rv their currency 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 lol obama has nothing to do with whether or not iraq is going to rv their currency ... where is the imf located .. washington dc .... what is a monetary unit that all currencies go by to set their currency value .. the dollar is one monetary unit there is no way any democrat besides liberman .. that wants iraq to turn out to be anything but a failure .. biden is set on deviding iraq into 3 countrys ..... anything bush did the dems try to destroy .. anything reagan did the dems try to destroy .. .. yes i believe obama is not an american .. hes a trader .. should be hung by his neck on the white house lawn 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stepheno Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I am in agreement with many who have posted that our presidents are nothing more than doing what they are told by the "shadow government." Did any of you ever see the movie "The Matrix?" What is going on behind the scenes is what is truly controlling what effects our society... My faith in God helps me to get through this, and to just roll with the punches... Ultimately our Great Creator is in control of this masquerade... Folks, if and when this currency becomes profitable remember that it could come crashing down at any time... Placing our faith in the physical side of life is like living in a house of cards... I fully expect the "powers that be" to shock us when we are at our weakest, and not so much on edge.... In other words fat and happy... Lethargic and content... With that being said, enjoy, and remain on guard spiritually... God bless... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 The last thing Oblame-o wants is for the USA to prosper. I don't buy the "reset before the election" theory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francie26 Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I read this book, and I agree that Obama has a hidden agenda of his own that only someone raised in country founded on the ashes of anti-colonialism would recognize. D'Souza, raised in India and the son of a father who was very outspoken against colonialization, puts the puzzle pieces together for us. We have never experienced that, and thus it is simply not a force in our conscious awareness. But based on D-Souza's history in India, it makes a huge amount of sense. Today Americans keep being informed of Obama's different beliefs---he is anti-Christian; he is a Muslim; O is this or that, but none of it creates a complete picture of Obama or actually explains who he is based on his often contradictory or confusing actions, while what he says often has nothing at all to do with the reality we see in what he does. The major premise of the book, and I presume of the movie, is that there are two distinct "dreams of our fathers" at play here. Obama received his personal dreams from his father (Read his book: Dreams of My Father), a man now buried in Kenya, and whose beliefs were based on hatred of colonializing nations, in which Obama now includes America. However, as D'Souza tells us, "we (Americans) have our own dreams given to us by our own Founding Fathers." For me, this book finally provided me with an astonished understanding of what had seemed to be Obama's often highly contradictory and confusing choices and behaviors. According to D'Souza, Obama wants to cut America down to size in order to allow other poorer nations a chance to grow. That's why he cut off our oil and other energy supply, and yet send American money to several other small nations so they can drill for oil. He makes all of his presidential decisons based on this hidden agenda. That's why he believes he can do whatever he wants once he is elected, but he doesn't want Americans to know his real agenda. This is shown in his slip in front of an open mike when he told Russia's Medvedev, "I'll have more flexibilty" (regarding our missile defence system) "after my election." Now why would he literally give away America's missle defence system to the Russians? Because he thinks America needs to be more vulnerable to other powerful nations as were those colonialized nations in the past. That's also why he is downsizing our military. This is just another way for Obama to render American more vulnerable, a strong part of his agenda to bring us down to size. And again, when he said "If you've got a business, you didn't build that," he was trying to take governmental control of free enterprise, and deprive business owners of the right to claim ownership of their own businesses. To him, everything belings to the communist/socialist "collective," and nada is free individual enterprise. . So the movie asks: which dreams are we going to vote into office and support? The dreams of someone who believes we are a colonializing nation, deserving only of being brought down to size and who runs all over the world apologizing for America, or the dreams of our own American Founding Fathers who gave us our American greatness? As far as having to wait on the RV until O is voted out of office--I think there is just as much chance he would want the RV as not, since it would give him a surprising claim to something unexpected that's good for America as we go into this election. And trust me, at this point, he is scrapping around trying to find something valuable to claim credit for. However, he may not have any control over this. I think it is up to the IMF and Iraq, Shabibi in particular, not Obama. But if he does have any control over it, he can't risk waiting until after the election since that would likely give someone else the chance to claim credit for this huge new infusion of money into our troubled economy. As always, I could be wrong, but I didn't sit here typing all of this on what will be a busy morning in my life, when I believed it was not especially true. haha 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinrich Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 ... where is the imf located .. washington dc .... what is a monetary unit that all currencies go by to set their currency value .. the dollar is one monetary unit there is no way any democrat besides liberman .. that wants iraq to turn out to be anything but a failure .. biden is set on deviding iraq into 3 countrys ..... anything bush did the dems try to destroy .. anything reagan did the dems try to destroy .. .. yes i believe obama is not an american .. hes a trader .. should be hung by his neck on the white house lawn reading too much into it this thing in my opinion will be over within the next month or shortly thereafter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrDinarE Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Dude..Obama and Romney are cut from the same mold...globalist shills. People don't like to hear this but neither one of these clowns are for the best interests of the american people. Singling Obama out is pure propaganda.This country WILL NOT be restored folks..because it is owned and payed for by people with special interests. TRUTH!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovesushi Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Francie, thanks for spending the time to share with us. I'm convinced that no matter the outcome of the election, the RV will happen but who can influence a higher exchange rate. I'm playing out scenarios in my head after Romney's speech. When he said USA will be energy indepedent by 2020, this came to mind if a president can influence gas prices: "On July 14, 2008, President Bush lifted an executiveorder to allow for more drilling and approving of more leases. On August 4, 2008, gas dipped below $4 per gallon and continued to dive to the low price of $ 1.89 on the day Obama took office. One action by President Bush dropped gas prices $ 2.13 per gallon in six (6) months." http://americanview.hubpages.com/hub/A-President-Can-Influence-Gas-Prices Could it be possible that Mitt (if elected) could influence or even trigger events that will cause a higher RV rate and drop gas prices? I can't wait for the October Surprise....Go RV! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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