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ya know what would be cool ..if i were iraqi ? if my daddy owned a bank and i could take the dinars in the front door .. then out the back door .. then in the front door again and just keep turning in the same old dinars for new ones.. .. if they put out some sort of bounty .. a small increase in the value of a dinar.. people will come and exchange them .... say like from .00086 to .001.. or 1000 dinars for a dollar .. they have enought dollars to buy all the dinars that way.... ... they never said huge increase in dinar value ..they simply said increase the value of the dinar... 14% increase is alot in currency standards... any other examples of a currency changing over night more than 14% ...?

the old bait and switch...bait everyone with the old dinars . then switch to another ...nice way to gather new investors.

i remember that quite well i started passing that around after the first time i heard the u tube .. i gave out the exact minute of the video for others to view .. maybe someone else heard it to before i made my postings .. but like i said thats the time i signed onto dv about a year ago .. .. .. yes the old propagan .... slip up recorded on utube... i heard it with my own ears and at that point i was convinced to look for what i think is propaganda ..ive seen a few odd statements coming out of their .. but this is one of my favorite ..when the iraqi gdp per capita is expected to be 9 thousand dollars this year .. thats 9000 times 25 milllion iraqis or 175 billion dollars .. whats 28 billion new dinars going to do for them ..the govts budget is 115 billion dollars so thats 290 billion dollars ...ive always thought they would change their story to removing 1 zero .. .. at the most 2 zeros ..

i could be wrong but i think they are only talking about actual phisical paper money "currency " and coins here .. the rest will be electronic dinars .. like the rest of the world uses... in the united states we have a 14 trillion dollar a year gdp.. did you know we only have 1 trillion in currency circulating ? and thats world wide .. in 2010 i believe we only had 800 billion dollars in actual paper currency .. that number has changed some im not sure how much .. the updated figures are not avaliable that i could find the rest is electronic curency ... they think they only need 28 billion dinars to circulate in their local economy .. but i disagree .. thats only 1000 dinars per capita ."per person"...if people start saving their money outside of banks they will run out of currency very quickly .. thats one of the reasons i think theres alot of propaganda floating artound this dinar thing

but then again it would go into that countrys foriegn reserves and they could use it to make purchases from iraq or anyone else willing to accept it .. man if the dinar could be used to buy oil that would be a big plus .. i really dont see any reason why iraq shouldnt accept its own currency for its own oilthen iraq could get its wealth as the oil is pumped out of the ground ..little by little.. a couple hundred million a day or more depending on its production

. they are so happy .... oh well i guess i shouldnt say things like that .. snide remarks are uncalled for .. my choice of wording got me the boobie prize on that one .. thats their opinion .. i should respect it ,, but i do not believe iraq has preannounced a huge rv to the world .. that would bankrupt its foriegn reserves and devalue its future currency if people all over the world bought up all the dinars and after the "rv" everyone cashed in and wanted their dinars exchanged for their countrys currency . they would be right back to 3000 dinars for a dollar before everyone was done exchanging .....after all .. all of iraqs oil in the ground only adds up to around 17 trillion dollars

i agree all the propaganda does make this thing very interesting.. in my opinion .. the only reason for this is some sort of revaluation .. if they werent going to rv .. why all the conspiracy .. if nothing was going to change as they say .. every story would match transparency would show consistancy in their stories.. ive heard more bull stuff about this than ive heard about anything ..

ut oh .... they are paying interest .. i thougt islam doesnt alow interest .. or is it they cannot accept interest .. what is this 8% interest ... The Ministry of Finance has decided since 2008 and through the Rafidain and Rasheed, in coordination with the ministries and government departments granting advances and loans to employees different but not less service employee for five years in accordance with the conditions and regulations specified for that, that does not exceed the loan of 50 million dinars, and an interest rate of 8 percent to be paid in ten years. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=post&section=post&do=reply_post&f=5&t=122407#ixzz1zxElxyqy

.. ya not a guess .. but the currency in existance wasnt a gradual change .. like this new currency is going to be .. the saddam money was canciled .. not gradually removed .. his currency was replaced if you wanted to buy anything .. .. you counldnt go to the market with saddam noney and buy things .. it was no good you had to exchange it for the new currency which we hold .. but this currency we hold will still be good at its current face value even after the new currency is being used in circulation .. according to the cbi they will have 2 different rates of exchange also ... but they will both be honered for purchases for i think they said 2 years .. some articles said 10 years .. but they wont cancil the current dinars when the new are released like they did when they removed all those dinars with the dictator saddams picture on it ...saddams picture was everywhere in iraq including on the currency in order to intimidate the people .. his pictures were tore down .. his statues were tore down .. he was hung by the neck .. ..no more intimidation

when something is in demand its value goes up .. if its scarce its value goes up ,, sand is cheap .. about 200 dollars for 15 tons .. . its not scares .. if gold is in such demand or so scarce .. why would they need to advertise like they do .. buy gold .. how many times do ya hear this on tv or the radio .. as if they are having a hard time selling it .. i think they artificially drove up the price to make huge profits .. why sell it if they say its going up in value .?.. everything goes up in value .. you pay 10 dollars for a leave rake and next year it may be 12 dollars .. .. how about a pair of shoes . they have constantly gone up in value .. everything does .. yet they only advertise gold going up .. if ya ask me its a scam .. ive seen it before .. when gold rose from 300 dollars an ounce in the 80s .. then came back down to 300 dollars after the scam. they sold it off telling everyone about its value going up .. then the dropped the price and bought it back after everyone was selling for a loss .. some people are allready in the red on gold purchases .. they bought at 1600 1700 an ounce .. so now they hold it waitning for it to go back up .. and ya know what .. it may go down even further .. and those same people who sold it to them for 1700 an ounce will be standing there buying it back at 1000 .. they will hold it for a few years and start the process over again . driving the price back up to 2 grand an ounce .. then dropping the price to 1200 .. and over and over through out time till people get educated ... .. just remember if its in such demand ,, why all the advertising campaigns ?

the shittes are the majority in iraq .. by far ... and the sunnis ruled over them for years .. he just a little excited at the opertunity to set things straight ..i think the sunnis acted like their god is better than the shittes god for way to long... snubbed them .. turned their noses up at them .. and well its to be expected ..i think things should be equal no matter what your ethnic backround or religion.. but over there its whos in charge .. he would show them hes a better man if he was promoting freedom ,liberty , and justice for all ..things could change in an election but with a shitte majority ... it will most likely not change .... in a voting society the majority rules .. and it looks like from now on the shittes will rule in iraq ..kurds and sunnis . will not be ruling in iraq ..... and in iran .. yes they are predominatly shite .. so .. yes it is to be expected .. iraq will be closer to iran than say saudi arabia where they are mostly sunni.... wierd how a democracy works .. im glad i live in the united states .. those islamic governments can get nasty the clerics have a heavy hand over there .. look at that nut case al sadr its their way or the highway

just think how fast they could gather every single us dollar off the streets of iraqby advertising the dinar value at 3 dollars for one dinar ...after that why would an iraqi want to use a dollar any more ..?they would have a strong dinar .. stronger than a dollar.... so at that point the cbi would only need enough reserves to cover any exchanges of the currency thats outside of iraq . id say the cbi would easily have over 100 billion in foriegn reserves after clearing the streets ... they would need some kind of bilateral agreements with other countrys where citizens hold the dinar ..like the us .. briton .. australia ...canada....germany .. france.. russia .. china ..ect. .. oh thats right .. they did travel heavily last year .. making bilateral agreement after bilateral agreement with lots of different countries .. ...hmm .. i wonder was set up in those meetings .. .. ok im dreaming again .. but still hoping the cbi is throwing around propaganda .... they cannot pre announce a rv .. they are not that stupid ...

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the biggest problem i see with the global economy .is the money is not circulating as it should // why? my opinion is as big coreporations and banks ... have the currency because they have earned it .. of course .. they did it legitimatly also .. but when such a small amount of bank accounts hold the global currencies .. how are we to get access to that currency if we dont have anything they wish to purchase .. a corporation is just that a corporation .. it doesnt have needs like people do ... its like having a surplus in our govt .. its not good .. that money has to be spent or it stagnates the economy .. some banks hold 2 and a half trillion in assets and others hold nothing but enough to pay their monthly bills to these corporations .. so as we earn we pay out what we earn .. costs of housing ,,automobiles ,, public utilities .. food industries have a monoply on all of us .. no wonder no one wants an ordinary job as a craftsman .. it just doesnt pay anything but your bills .. people have lost the opertunity to get ahead and save money ,, so they can invest ...it seems like everyone has become the slaves of a few ..not that they have done anything wrong .. its seems like its not working.. why all the profits and not just pay everyone more money ,,hundreds of billions sitting on the side lines is killing our economy .. and people are getting tired of working just to give that pay check back every week ..it costs me about 150 dollars a week for gas to get to work .. insurance and automobile payments are not included .. vehicle maintenance .. it costs me about 9 thousand a year just to get to work.. but i must also have a place to live .. buy clothing ..food utilities .. i work to stay broke .. so they promote college .....that puts you in debt for 20 years on top of living expenses that makes up for the higher salary they make so they also work to pay bills .... so here we sit hoplessly on some war torn country to bail us out ..what a world .. how nuch money do these corporations have ..?... almost all of it apple computer .. lots of cash .. ibm .. microsoft ... ford motor company .. kraft foods .. betty crocker .. whirlpool .. general electric.. and on down the line of those few with all the money tied up .. .. the only way out is to demand higher wages and or quantive easing .. to devalue our currency so it is redistributed .... is there another way out ? i dont have that answer

the way i read this .. if black people are doing this to white people thats fine .. and you are just supposed to put a bandaid on your wounds and go home as if this is the way things are supossed to be .. and if you retaliate ..your a racist ,, because you attacked black people starting a confict.. truth is you wouldnt be starting anything and enough is enough .. and its so very close to the guns coming out it isnt funny ..especially since the black community is currenclty coraled in the welefare compounds in which they refer to as the hood .. how will they escape a racial war they are so trying to start .. it would be a slaughter .. .. then when the drugs and alcohol wear out and they sober up .. they will be crying the blues saying i told you those white people were racist .... well ya start a racial war .. your to blame no one else .. no matter what al sharpton says ... if he survives ..im sure he will be hiding out till its all over so he can get rich making his speechs ..that are the root cause for these young black peoples mis conceptions in this country ... the entire world is racist .. look at the countrys and their borders .. they didnt come about by accident .. wars devided this world as its devided .. the united states is the only country trying to resolve these racial issues .. and al sharpton and his clan .. "black panthers"... are the ones throwing a wrench into every turn disrupting any progress .. after all it is how he makes his living ..he promotes violence and hurting anyone if they are white ..if any black person gets hurt .. i cant believe his kind are still around and excepted by anyone ..i dont like al sharpton or his clan .. what will they do when the phones are shut off if a racial war breaks out .. how will he organize his folowers ... will they run back to the hood after starting a racial war thinking thats a safe zone ? surely it wont be .. how will they stand at a bus stop .. or get a job after a racial war .. if someone killed off my family members in the name of race i wont stop anywhere ..it wont be over till its over ..

it just seems silly to care about what someone else believes.. i know what i read .. and i enjoy everyones perspective ....im hoping the cbi is spewing propaganda .. thats where i stand .. .. but i cannot say for any certanty either way .. according to the cbi .. they are lopping 3 zeros ... they are not pre anouncing a huge rv

... not everyone here is a newbie .. i bought my dinars 8 years ago .. long before the cbi started putting out the deletion of zeros storys .... i personally dont think most people bought their dinars thinking this would lop ......holding your dinars after the storys of deletion came about ..is not a big deal .. its not like most people mortgaged their homes to buy dinars .. most bought a couple million for a chance at a revaluation of their currency after the war was over .. well they found out .. it takes more than that .. like chapter 7 ... a seated govt .. for example ... we dont actually know the hold up ..or whats going on here ..but the zero deletion storys claiming 100 current dinmars for one of the new ones .. points to a lop .. .. it doesnt mean everyone thinks the storys are true .. but it is what the storys are saying .. so most people will hang on to their dinars till its all said and done .. just to be sure .. i dont see any loss occuring .. if they do lop ... it would be an even exchange .. a thousand dollars worth of existing dinars for a thousand dollars worth of new dinars ,, no gains no losses .. but theres that chance they are still using propaganda to get people to sell off their dinars .. ya know anyone can join this forum .. iraq may have personel sitting here daily just for that purpose .. to get people to sell off .... who knows .. but the truth is they have never put out any story that says they will give you even exchange one old dinar for one new one .. if they have please post it ...the storys all say lop ..1000 for one new dinar ..which is what other countrys have doine in the past .. ill be better off just saying ...yes ... thats what the story says .. but i dont believe it ... instead of trying to twist around what they publish in print ..... my dinars are staying with me till the new rates are published .. and i wont be shocked if they are telling the truth and it doies lop .. they meaning central bank of iraq .. but if theres a chance this may also rv as well as lop .. like 3 dollars for one dinar .. and 1000 for one ill triple my investment .. truth is no one knows for sure whats going to happen .. iraq would destroy itself if it told the world ..come buy these dinars ..and in january we will give you 300,000 percent gains if you buy now .... no storys have said that .. only speculators have said such things ...i will not twist a story around for my own entertainment watching everyone else believe my propaganda ... cause it would just be made up malarky

thats a dumb question ...huh iraq may of had a dead line to sell as much dinar as posible to make as much as possible of the sales of dinar sales .. at autions .. then in turn had a dead line to call in as much of that dinar to pull it off streets and give it a value ...and what ever they didnt pull back in off streets will be the deviding factor in the equasion in the determination of the value compared to the dollar.... they say they only have 60 billion dollars in foriegn reserves ,, and that number hasnt changed in the last year .. it just stays the same .. 60 billion ... the cbi has a balance of dinars it holds ...76.5 trillion dinars worth of assets .. that includes the 60 billion dollars worth of federal reserves... it holds close to 4 trillion in dinars .. out of the 29 trillion dinars in existance .. so around 25 trillion dinars are floating around .. now thats according to iraq cbi web site .....they buy close to a trillion dinars in any given week at the cbi auctions... and recirculate them .. they seem to have the power to control the dinar value im sure iraq has 2 sets of books if not more ..do ya think the united states has only one set of books ?and anyone could just log on and find out how much we have ? the real figures are clasified ....i think iraq as well as every other country does the same. when you print your own money ...its value is all wrapped up in the confidence in that money .. what people believe about that currency ... so are we better off exposing iraqi down falls ..or covering them up and promoting their currency as a legitimate currency worth trillions backed up by oil assets .. real estate.. infrastructure ,roads ports .. ..acient treasures ...artifacts ect..... down playing iraq cannot be good for our investment .. does anyone think this site as well as others are being monitored to see what kind of propaganda is accepted .. and which is rejected ...in order to go fourth in this campaign ? the cbi has enough assets to pull every single dinar off the streets twice .. where they go from there no one knows ..and thats just on the set of books we all get to see on the cbi public web site ..i cant wait to se the real set of books that should be avaliable when the new dinar is released .. or will that even be the real set of books and another behind it ? any way im sure we dont know the truth about the dinar at this point .. only a few do .. i dont even think iraqi parliment has the full picture yet ... until this thing is finalized .. it is classified .. top secret.. thats my story for the day ..

better business bueral ... lol// like they arelrgiytimit...bbb is as legit as the govt of the united states ... // lol...bbb lol look the best things in life are doghnuts.... go get a couple apple fritters and chow down .. dinars lol

i agree they can tell everyone now .. now that all those trillions of dinarts are gone .. in our mind.. and i bet thats the end of the auctions too .. theres no way anyone would be buying dollars now with dinars at 1166 dinars to one dollars especially "after" reading this "after"secret code story.;;; they are plainly telling us they will give us millions of dollars for 1000s of dollars investments ....that "after" thing is code ill bet .. heck "after " reading this story ....their will most likely be muggings and roberys out the ying yang what with everyone out their walking around with truck loads of dinars just to buy groceries right now .. since they know now that those 23 dollar 25,000 notes will be worth what .. about 30 grand at 1.17 dollars per current dinar ..... heck they dont even need to pull these dinars now they will be worth face value .. were gonna be rich ... talk your friends and family members into buying up all the dinars .. just call the dealers tommarro .. they will still have dinars for 1000 per million dinars .. im selling my farm tommarro for half price just so i can buy another 100 million dinars ... ill be worth 100 billion dollars in january .. i finally read the truth here today ...its all in the word "after ".. its after they delete the zeros they are putting out the new currency .. since if it wasnt "after"... it would be before.. there fore being not worth zippidy do dah.. ill see ya in january at the big party in vegas ...

so i take it your read this as "BREAKING NEWS ".. ACROSS THE WIRE .. THAT IF YOU BUY THESE DINARS FOR A THOUSAND BUCKS YOU WILL BE A MILLIONARE IN JANUARY .. ... so you think thats what iraq is doing ... a free for all on money for anyone that wants some .. millions and millions if everyone mortgages their homes .. runs up credit cards .. sell your cars .. sell everything and buy these dinars .. cause they told everyone this is going to happen in january ..your so smart .. how do ya do it

they are credible in the sense that they will be here till the end with one story after another .. they been around for awhile with prediction after prediction .. that did "NOT" come true

ya just keep waiting for it to go off but it doesnt ... im still waiting ,, but its almost time to go see if its completely out... this thing is looking more and more like a dudd .. if it does go off they are doing a fantastic job with their propaganda ... with their hundred billion dollar gdp .. and only 30 billion dinars ... storys...its hard to see... how iraqi dinars are going to save the global economy .....ah ..ha ha ha ha .... AH .HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ... its like buying a lottery ticket .. then demanding a refund after you lost....lol

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